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Posted: 10/22/2018 9:45:00 PM EDT
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possibly a dumb question but do you have to disassemble the bayonet adapter to disassemble the shotgun or does it come off in one piece?
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Posted: 10/22/2018 9:46:51 PM EDT
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“Why is this in the bathroom....?”
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Posted: 10/22/2018 9:49:42 PM EDT
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I ordered 2 folders, one for a friend and myself on Wed, order number 40786XX and they arrived today. We didn't even have to decide who gets the nice one as they both appeared to be unfired and pretty much brand new still wearing a coat of waxy preservative. No real flaws other than a few insignificant scratches.
Could not be happier. OP is def. Arfcom man of the year for the heads up! 
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Posted: 10/22/2018 9:49:43 PM EDT
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My folder looks like the couple above. Maybe shot, maybe just slight handling. Very good condition with extension tube nut put on with pliers being about the only wear. I'll post pics in the morning.
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Posted: 10/22/2018 9:51:05 PM EDT
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possibly a dumb question but do you have to disassemble the bayonet adapter to disassemble the shotgun or does it come off in one piece? |
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Posted: 10/22/2018 9:51:36 PM EDT
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And the folding stock guns are definitely more fun to look at then to shoot. If you bought these to be shooters, the fixed stock guns make more sense for sure. But the folding stock sure does look sweet. |
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Posted: 10/22/2018 10:01:28 PM EDT
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Really kicking myself for not grabbing a folding stock. Fixed will be here on Wednesday, crossing my fingers that she is in good shape.
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Posted: 10/22/2018 10:03:53 PM EDT
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Really kicking myself for not grabbing a folding stock. Fixed will be here on Wednesday, crossing my fingers that she is in good shape. |
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Posted: 10/22/2018 10:04:33 PM EDT
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Going to pick my folder up tomorrow, God I hope it's in as good shape as the pics you guys are posting! 
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Posted: 10/22/2018 10:04:48 PM EDT
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I used penetrating oil on the threaded side of screw and let it sit so the oil would run in to the threads. Put it in a vise or clamp it down to a table. I used a SL6 screw bit, just make sure whatever tool that fits your screws is hollow ground so you dont bugger screw heads-it would be really easy to do. After all 3 screws are out just pull adapter off from muzzle end. Sorry, i was replying to Minnesotadude.
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Posted: 10/22/2018 10:06:08 PM EDT
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I ordered 2 folders, one for a friend and myself on Wed, order number 40786XX and they arrived today. We didn't even have to decide who gets the nice one as they both appeared to be unfired and pretty much brand new still wearing a coat of waxy preservative. No real flaws other than a few insignificant scratches. Could not be happier. OP is def. Arfcom man of the year for the heads up! https://i.imgur.com/Y21myat.jpg https://i.imgur.com/unYLUDK.jpg https://i.imgur.com/kQt1CMU.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lxwliHD.jpg https://i.imgur.com/t0iI9Qh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ENSn3i1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/pz5hsi7.jpg Those are absolutely beautiful. |
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Posted: 10/22/2018 10:30:09 PM EDT
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As it turns out, I have a buddy who just happens to be on active duty with the Ohio 148th, and he called me after I sent him a picture of one of my shotguns. He said "I'm almost sure I handled that one as we were turning them in."  They 870s only went to Vance's in September.
These 870s were Ohio owned, so were only used when the Guard was on state duty; they have a supply of Mossbergs that were provided by the DOD and carry these when used in Federal service. The folders came from Company C in Tiffin, and were in the original wood crates when he took delivery of them; he thought they may have been test-fired, but were otherwise in storage, likely since the mid-1970s. My friend knew Vance's had the shotguns, but had no idea they were selling them so soon. He wanted to buy one, as the selling price was about what an Arfcom Gold membership costs, but was prohibited from doing so. I thought some of you would be interested in knowing this information. |
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Posted: 10/22/2018 10:36:43 PM EDT
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Picked up my guns today.
My folder shows almost zero wear. It does have tape covering the ONG logo with 838th on it, which is an MP company. It has the name "Casey" on the stock. Would it affect the value to remove the tape? As it is, you can't see the ONG logo. I don't know if having the company and soldiers name on it affects the value. 
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Posted: 10/22/2018 10:43:40 PM EDT
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Picked up my guns today. My folder shows almost zero wear. It does have tape covering the ONG logo with 838th on it, which is an MP company. It has the name "Casey" on the stock. Would it affect the value to remove the tape? As it is, you can't see the ONG logo. I don't know if having the company and soldiers name on it affects the value. https://i.postimg.cc/LhdBPHSB/20181022-221636.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/brV4fSQY/20181022-220655.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/VkCp2651/20181022-220715.jpg |
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Posted: 10/22/2018 10:49:06 PM EDT
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I think my folder has never been fired.
I bore snaked the barrel and wiped the receiver with Remoil. I couldn't find one speck of powder residue. Bolt face has a thin layer of cosmoline. |
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Posted: 10/22/2018 10:55:52 PM EDT
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Nice deal!
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Posted: 10/22/2018 10:57:35 PM EDT
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Edit out your post or the mods will lock this down. Already happened once. Post an ad in the EE and someone will come along I'm sure...
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Posted: 10/22/2018 10:59:50 PM EDT
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Dude. No. No. Fuck no.
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Posted: 10/22/2018 11:02:51 PM EDT
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Is anybody’s cap on stuck. Been messing with it a while and can’t get it to budge. Don’t want to get out tools and mess it up
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Posted: 10/22/2018 11:05:10 PM EDT
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Mine has a few scratches here and there. The quality was better than expected. I would give it an 8/10. I definitely am kicking myself for not getting two.
I have been in on some deals here on Arfcom. This is by far the sweetest 
Mine has a tag reading C 612th 2.  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 10/22/2018 11:49:05 PM EDT
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I picked up a couple and they are cool, but some of you guys are overhyping this. I think these are going to be considered to be closer to plain trade ins then WW1 trench shotguns.
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Posted: 10/23/2018 12:00:01 AM EDT
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I picked up a couple and they are cool, but some of you guys are overhyping this. I think these are going to be considered to be closer to plain trade ins then WW1 trench shotguns. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 12:13:21 AM EDT
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Is anybody’s cap on stuck. Been messing with it a while and can’t get it to budge. Don’t want to get out took and mess it up |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 12:15:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They more than doubled in value before the first person who ordered one took possession of it. Nobody is claiming these are going to be worth $3000 in a few years...but they will sell for $600-800 at a minimum. Pretty easy to understand why folks are excited about getting them for $229-$239... Give it some time, they haven't even all arrived yet. Information and pictures draws interest. Their story just needs to be told. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 12:24:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think once some info on these particular guns is published it will increase their value and conductibility. Give it some time, they haven't even all arrived yet. Information and pictures draws interest. Their story just needs to be told. On a side note, have you found a loaner if you're going to put something together on these? |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 1:28:14 AM EDT
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So being I'm not much of a collector like in toy story allure.. I want to upgrade the furniture to Magpul..just stuff that is reversible. I mean all it needs is a light and its good to go for Teotwawki. ETA, better to sell it to someone else and just get a police trade 870 WM or 870 Police. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 1:40:31 AM EDT
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I ordered 2 folders, one for a friend and myself on Wed, order number 40786XX and they arrived today. We didn't even have to decide who gets the nice one as they both appeared to be unfired and pretty much brand new still wearing a coat of waxy preservative. No real flaws other than a few insignificant scratches. Could not be happier. OP is def. Arfcom man of the year for the heads up! https://i.imgur.com/Y21myat.jpg https://i.imgur.com/unYLUDK.jpg https://i.imgur.com/kQt1CMU.jpg https://i.imgur.com/lxwliHD.jpg https://i.imgur.com/t0iI9Qh.jpg https://i.imgur.com/ENSn3i1.jpg https://i.imgur.com/pz5hsi7.jpg |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 1:45:07 AM EDT
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I'm wondering if the fixed stocks are going to be in generally worse shape than the folders. Given how uncomfortable the folders are to shoot, might explain why so many look brand new and unfired. Fingers crossed my fixed stock is just as pristine as some of y'alls!
Personally I haven't decided what to do with mine yet, I bought it to just be a beater to keep in the truck and was planning on ditching the bayonet mount but now I don't really know. If i remove the bayonet mount I'll lose my front sight correct? |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 1:48:31 AM EDT
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I'm wondering if the fixed stocks are going to be in generally worse shape than the folders. Given how uncomfortable the folders are to shoot, might explain why so many look brand new and unfired. Fingers crossed my fixed stock is just as pristine as some of y'alls! Personally I haven't decided what to do with mine yet, I bought it to just be a beater to keep in the truck and was planning on ditching the bayonet mount but now I don't really know. If i remove the bayonet mount I'll lose my front sight correct? I seem to recall someone saying the barrel is drilled for a bead sight. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 2:26:41 AM EDT
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I can't get my folder until Thursday morning. I went ahead and ordered some bayonets and sling from the CMP.
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Posted: 10/23/2018 5:28:52 AM EDT
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I'm wondering if the fixed stocks are going to be in generally worse shape than the folders. Given how uncomfortable the folders are to shoot, might explain why so many look brand new and unfired. Fingers crossed my fixed stock is just as pristine as some of y'alls! Personally I haven't decided what to do with mine yet, I bought it to just be a beater to keep in the truck and was planning on ditching the bayonet mount but now I don't really know. If i remove the bayonet mount I'll lose my front sight correct? I haven’t gotten mine yet...part of me is hoping for pristine, and part of me is hoping one is so beat I won’t mind modifying it. 
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Posted: 10/23/2018 6:22:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/23/2018 7:17:11 AM EDT
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I picked up a couple and they are cool, but some of you guys are overhyping this. I think these are going to be considered to be closer to plain trade ins then WW1 trench shotguns. Do I think these will equal or pass trench guns? No. I am curious to see what happens to one on gunbroker. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 7:17:45 AM EDT
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I will update data tonight after work.
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Posted: 10/23/2018 7:24:06 AM EDT
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I picked up a couple and they are cool, but some of you guys are overhyping this. I think these are going to be considered to be closer to plain trade ins then WW1 trench shotguns. Only 1,200 of them with legitimate provenance as to being used during Hurricane Katrina and other events in America. Yes, they will rise. Plus the fact that these are general a rare configuration hardly ever released on the market and the majority are clones. Oh yes, they will rise. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 7:31:21 AM EDT
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WOO HOO!! Out for delivery. Hopefully my FFL gets it before 1500 so I can go get it. If he gets it at 1500 like he usually does I'd have to pick it up tomorrow.
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Posted: 10/23/2018 7:41:39 AM EDT
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These are going to rise in value. Only 1,200 of them with legitimate provenance as to being used during Hurricane Katrina and other events in America. Yes, they will rise. Plus the fact that these are general a rare configuration hardly ever released on the market and the majority are clones. Oh yes, they will rise. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 7:55:27 AM EDT
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Joined the forum because of this thread. Bought mine on whim when I got the email and then found this thread after I Googled more about the gun, because I was having regrets of my impulse buy. Now glad I did get it. Folder is supposed to be delivered today and will post pics as soon as I get it.
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Posted: 10/23/2018 8:29:22 AM EDT
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Joined the forum because of this thread. Bought mine on whim when I got the email and then found this thread after I Googled more about the gun, because I was having regrets of my impulse buy. Now glad I did get it. Folder is supposed to be delivered today and will post pics as soon as I get it. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 8:34:18 AM EDT
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What this guy said. FedEx says delivery at my FFL around 1 PM. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1783/3E3352E6-2911-40A6-8E74-F93F9B2B6E1C-714170.gif Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Going to pick my folder up tomorrow, God I hope it's in as good shape as the pics you guys are posting! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1783/3E3352E6-2911-40A6-8E74-F93F9B2B6E1C-714170.gif 
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Posted: 10/23/2018 9:25:34 AM EDT
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I haven't posted on arfcom in years... this thread got me back on!
Mine came in yesterday. Here are some more pictures: https://imgur.com/a/0eBhgiI It had 838th written on some damaged masking tape (ONG Military Police presumably) and the dried sticky remnants of a name sticker on the folding stock. It came with a USGI silent sling and no sling swivel. Instead, a piece of 550 cord was tied through the plastic pistol grip. The Serial number (S639100V) indicates production in 1968. The date code on the barrel is EW, indicating September (E) and 1972 (W). I assume this is a replacement barrel. The Remington stock is marked "Patent Pending" . US Patent US3798819A with a priority date of 1972-03-09 and a publication date of 1974-03-26 seems to be the patent Remington took out on this folding stock set. My assumption would be that this patent pending date would indicate production between 1972 and 1974 for the folding stock. I wonder whether these were sent back to Remington to be fitted with the new folding stock sets, new barrels and bayonet lugs in 1972? See patent in subsequent photos. Helpful links: Ohio National Guard 838th Military Police Company history: https://history.army.mil/html/forcestruc/lineages/branches/mp/0838mpco.htm Remington's Patent Application: https://patents.google.com/patent/US3798819A/en Arfcom 870 info thread: https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Remington-M870-Riot-shotgun-information-thread/1-493489/ 
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Posted: 10/23/2018 9:38:08 AM EDT
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They will never be in with trench guns.They might be guns ordered in contract .That they put bayonet adapters on that’s all.They had kits back in the day.i got two coming.Theyll b e a grand someday that’s all.These killed market on bayonet Adapters now
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Posted: 10/23/2018 9:40:18 AM EDT
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All my other factory folders have that patent date on them.And they had them on police guns in the 80s
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Posted: 10/23/2018 9:40:21 AM EDT
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They will never be in with trench guns.They might be guns ordered in contract .That they put bayonet adapters on that’s all.They had kits back in the day.i got two coming.Theyll b e a grand someday that’s all.These killed market on bayonet Adapters now |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 9:44:29 AM EDT
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Has anyone reported a cracked pistol grip? Maybe we were worried over nothing?
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Posted: 10/23/2018 9:47:35 AM EDT
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There was only 1200 sold. That’s nothing. I’d say a lot of these went to people wanting to keep them rather than part them out. I’m sure we will see them get flipped on gunbroker a few times before they find their final home, but 1200 isn’t a lot. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They will never be in with trench guns.They might be guns ordered in contract .That they put bayonet adapters on that’s all.They had kits back in the day.i got two coming.Theyll b e a grand someday that’s all.These killed market on bayonet Adapters now |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 9:49:32 AM EDT
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I haven't posted on arfcom in years... this thread got me back on! Mine came in yesterday. Here are some more pictures: https://imgur.com/a/0eBhgiI It had 838th written on some damaged masking tape (ONG Military Police presumably) and the dried sticky remnants of a name sticker on the folding stock. It came with a USGI silent sling and no sling swivel. Instead, a piece of 550 cord was tied through the plastic pistol grip. The Serial number (S639100V) indicates production in 1968. The date code on the barrel is EW, indicating September (E) and 1972 (W). I assume this is a replacement barrel. The Remington stock is marked "Patent Pending" . US Patent US3798819A with a priority date of 1972-03-09 and a publication date of 1974-03-26 seems to be the patent Remington took out on this folding stock set. My assumption would be that this patent pending date would indicate production between 1972 and 1974 for the folding stock. I wonder whether these were sent back to Remington to be fitted with the new folding stock sets, new barrels and bayonet lugs in 1972? See patent in subsequent photos. Helpful links: Ohio National Guard 838th Military Police Company history: https://history.army.mil/html/forcestruc/lineages/branches/mp/0838mpco.htm Remington's Patent Application: https://patents.google.com/patent/US3798819A/en Arfcom 870 info thread: https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Remington-M870-Riot-shotgun-information-thread/1-493489/ https://i.imgur.com/cIBDZzR.jpg so sad i missed out on these. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 9:51:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One thing compared to a trench gun.They weren’t ever in a war.Thats what makes trench hold their value and sought after.And the ong on them kills them.There not a real mk1 Some of you are incredibly dense when it comes to collector value of firearms. There's already people offering double/triple the original price. |
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Posted: 10/23/2018 9:52:14 AM EDT
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Get mine today .So can you see we’re a factory bead sight was on factory barrel .Before bayonet adapter was put on
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Posted: 10/23/2018 9:53:40 AM EDT
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My 2 fixed stocks are to be delivered tomorrow. After seeing all the pictures I'm looking forward to it.
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