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Link Posted: 10/23/2018 6:36:27 PM EST
[#1]
A little rough but no rust...
A tag says its rough...

It has a rack number of 40.

It was used..

And shows ong unit armorer tag.. for 437th..

SN IS S379772V

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Link Posted: 10/23/2018 6:40:26 PM EST
[#2]
Some of these hard used fixed stock shotguns look awesome.  I wish I could've gotten 4 so I could have two of each kind.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 6:50:04 PM EST
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A little rough but no rust...
A tag says its rough...

It has a rack number of 40.

It was used..

And shows ong unit armorer tag.. for 437th..

SN IS 5379772V

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Yours seems patina’d just like mine. I love it too.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 6:50:22 PM EST
[#4]
Poser shot.

Link Posted: 10/23/2018 6:53:11 PM EST
[#5]
I just picked up my fixed stock and it is freaking awesome, awesome, awesome.  I love the way it feels and shoulders.  The bead comes up in exactly the right spot every time and holds really steady.  The trigger feels awesome and breaks with no creep.  The way the bolt slides and the insides clack back and forth in the receiver feel so precise and fitted.

I’ll post pics later when I get home.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 6:58:08 PM EST
[#6]
Can’t wait to pick mine up tomorrow
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 7:00:17 PM EST
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I just picked up my fixed stock and it is freaking awesome, awesome, awesome.  I love the way it feels and shoulders.  The bead comes up in exactly the right spot every time and holds really steady.  The trigger feels awesome and breaks with no creep.  The way the bolt slides and the insides clack back and forth in the receiver feel so precise and fitted.

I’ll post pics later when I get home.
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Remington used to do it right man. Old Wingmasters are fantastic guns.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 7:04:20 PM EST
[#8]
got two folders

one is pristine

the other makes me believe that these were used in katrina

so much rust

but all in all good deal
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 7:06:12 PM EST
[#9]
I have zero interest in shooting a pump 12ga for fun, and no need for additional ones for practical uses, but I have to admit these are pretty cool shotguns.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 7:06:47 PM EST
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I removed the back pin and pulled the trigger out. I do see a chipped in the trigger housing. I tried slipping it back in and could not. I have another 870 and plan on removing the trigger housing to see if
it will work. I will do it tomorrow to give me a night away from it. Don't look good on the trigger housing.
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I got my folder in today. Overall it is in good shape except the front pin by the trigger guard is missing. The guard is jamb a little open.
They had a tag on it stating it needed a front pin then  trigger guard and housing is broken. It don't look broken but just jammed. I will have to bring it to a shop
to get checked out. What a bummer.
I removed the back pin and pulled the trigger out. I do see a chipped in the trigger housing. I tried slipping it back in and could not. I have another 870 and plan on removing the trigger housing to see if
it will work. I will do it tomorrow to give me a night away from it. Don't look good on the trigger housing.
I think I got it figured out. The shell latch was slide all the way to the back. I guess they tried working the gun when the front pin fell out and cause the right side shell latch to the rear. I slide the latch back into place. Put the trigger group back in  which then slide right on in. Not having a front pin I used a punch of the same dia. to just hold it in place Rear pin went in with no problem. I work the action and pulled the trigger a couple of times . Seems to all work. Have new pins ordered. What is messed up on the trigger housing is where the slide lock release is the small tap across it on the housing is broken. Does not affect the operations of the gun but I plan to replace and store the original parts. I feel much better now. I learned a lot about the 870 today. I am not planning on restaking the shell latch. Just got to pay attention when removing the front trigger pin.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 7:10:34 PM EST
[#11]
You guys are killing me posting SN info in this thread. Trying to hunt it all down. Please post in other thread if your not listed.

I have updated the info thread

INFO THREAD HERE
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 7:24:15 PM EST
[#12]
April 1971 production date.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 7:25:02 PM EST
[#13]
I’m calling it: these will go down as the awesomest bargain in Arfcom history.

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Link Posted: 10/23/2018 7:26:07 PM EST
[#14]
It had a green sling inside...

What gives...
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 7:32:15 PM EST
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I’m calling it: these will go down as the awesomest bargain in Arfcom history.

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Damn that thing is sweet.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 7:33:31 PM EST
[#16]
Any word if any more of these might come up for sale ? I know, probably wishful thinking...
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 7:40:10 PM EST
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There is a heavy range in the serial numbers that would show much more than released, but can not say if that is just because receivers were just pulled randomly off the line. Which I am assuming is the case since there is a 22,000 range with the fixed stock guns and 17,000 for the folders.

Have heard nothing from ONG or Remington yet.

There is a rumor that some were sold to the police department that did the transfer from the NG to who we got them from.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 7:44:13 PM EST
[#18]
I called Remington LE and they said more than likely they used regular wingmasters for this contract, but they have to dig through their records
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 7:44:24 PM EST
[#19]
Just picked both of mine up.

The fixed stock model is pretty nice.  Just enough wear that I'll shoot it a bit, but the wood and blueing are pretty nice.

My folder is pretty rough.  Obviously carried and fired a lot, and the bayonet mount is boogered up pretty good.

If anyone gets a line on mounting screws please post them up.

I am absolutely not complaining though.  The fixed stock gun will remain in my family long after I am gone, if I have my way.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 7:46:47 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/23/2018 7:49:53 PM EST
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Just picked both of mine up.

The fixed stock model is pretty nice.  Just enough wear that I'll shoot it a bit, but the wood and blueing are pretty nice.

My folder is pretty rough.  Obviously carried and fired a lot, and the bayonet mount is boogered up pretty good.

If anyone gets a line on mounting screws please post them up.

I am absolutely not complaining though.  The fixed stock gun will remain in my family long after I am gone, if I have my way.
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Post some pictures!  We've been seeing too many of the clean ones and not enough with some use.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 7:50:42 PM EST
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No complaints and it shoots dead on at 10 yards.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 7:51:04 PM EST
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The "wingmaster" on the side of the receiver give that away?

Only kidding, let us know if they find anything.

Edit: From my understanding all M870 riots are on Wingmaster receivers.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 7:57:13 PM EST
[#24]
Usong military grade mG buck.
I can only fit 4 rds in it.

Isn't 7 rds plus 1 in chamber the norm?
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 7:59:02 PM EST
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Usong military grade mG buck.
I can only fit 4 rds in it.

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Does the mag tube gave a plug in it?
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:01:19 PM EST
[#26]
Got a NICS delay at my FFL, so no photos yet, but got a look at my fixed stock this evening. Plenty of wear but it's nicely even throughout with no buggered/missing parts, just glorious "patina".

Will add photos and serial once I get it in hand.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:01:38 PM EST
[#27]
Checking it...
Doesn't seem...

I tried it again and got 7 rds in..

I'm old..
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:03:47 PM EST
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Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:06:19 PM EST
[#29]
Mine seems to be the nominal condition of the fixed stocks.

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Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:08:14 PM EST
[#30]
I think I hit the shotgun lottery with mine, bore cleaned up real well. No rust.

I'm gonna use RemOil for the first time in a while because it seems appropriate.

What a cool neat gun.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:10:29 PM EST
[#31]
Can anyone recommend any good gunsmithing screwdriver sets that aren't too expensive?  I saw a set of Wheeler bits on Amazon for like $25 that looked like they would work.  I'd like to take my bayonet lug mounts off to clean and don't want to damage anything anymore than it is already.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:14:29 PM EST
[#34]
I don’t think mine has been fired.  Bore is shiny and clean.

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Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:18:12 PM EST
[#35]
Looks like most of the fixed, mine included, have more wear on the left side, the top left edge of the receivers are worn.

Why?
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:26:36 PM EST
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Looks like most of the fixed, mine included, have more wear on the left side, the top left edge of the receivers are worn.

Why?
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Slung over your shoulder would make that side rub up against your folding knife, pistol, etc. for a right hander.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:26:53 PM EST
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Maybe because how they slung?
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:27:14 PM EST
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I'd imagine when they're carried with a sling, that's what is making contact with your body/kit/etc.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:29:06 PM EST
[#39]
I picked mine up today.  One of mine is very clean, with exception of the trigger guard is dented in.

What are everyone’s thoughts on swapping “small” parts between two folders (like a trigger guard assembly, forend, etc) in order to make one into the “best” parts?

Will that affect the value?
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:29:07 PM EST
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Can anyone recommend any good gunsmithing screwdriver sets that aren't too expensive?  I saw a set of Wheeler bits on Amazon for like $25 that looked like they would work.  I'd like to take my bayonet lug mounts off to clean and don't want to damage anything anymore than it is already.
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I've been to some pretty high end shops that swear by Wheeler.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:30:51 PM EST
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I picked mine up today.  One of mine is very clean, with exception of the trigger guard is dented in.

What are everyone’s thoughts on swapping “small” parts between two folders (like a trigger guard assembly, forend, etc) in order to make one into the “best” parts?

Will that affect the value?
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I would do it. They aren't serialized.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:34:09 PM EST
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I picked mine up today.  One of mine is very clean, with exception of the trigger guard is dented in.

What are everyone's thoughts on swapping "small" parts between two folders (like a trigger guard assembly, forend, etc) in order to make one into the "best" parts?

Will that affect the value?
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I don't think that would matter.  I'm wondering if Remington has records of what shipped as folders or fixed though?
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:35:52 PM EST
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No complaints and it shoots dead on at 10 yards.
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Looking to sell that cooler?

Post it up in the EE if so....
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:37:32 PM EST
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No complaints and it shoots dead on at 10 yards.
Looking to sell that cooler?
Are you looking for a little playmate?
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:38:47 PM EST
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https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/milsurp-u-s-military-remington-model-870-shotguns/

M870 Military Riot Gun

In addition to the special Mark 1 variant, a number of Model 870 shotguns were procured by all branches of the service, especially the United States Navy. Most of these were standard M870 plain barrel riot (typically 18-inch to 20-inch barrels). Most such guns purchased by the government had factory parkerized finishes, but a surprising number had standard commercial blued finishes. Most of these guns were purchased in the early to mid-1970s, several years after the Mark 1 contract was completed.

Some of the Model 870 riot guns were fitted with sling swivels, and an extended magazine tube/ bayonet adapter kit that was developed by Remington. Such guns resembled the USMC contract Mark 1 but had shorter barrels and were not fitted with rifle sights. Remington made both parkerized and blued extended magazine/bayonet adapter kits that were also sold to the law enforcement and civilian arms markets. Conversion of existing riot guns was accomplished by simply screwing on the magazine tube extension and clamping on the bayonet adapter, which was secured by three screws. It is reported that the U.S. Air Force as well as the U.S. Navy utilized these conversion kits on some of their M870 riot guns.

Model 870 riot guns were popular with U.S. Navy “SEALS” as well as a number of other units. After Vietnam, the weapons were used for various duties, including the protection of American embassies around the world. Some of these shotguns were also fitted with folding stocks and a few had their barrels cut back to as short as 14 inches to make them handier for use in confined spaces such as embassy guard houses and the arms racks of Navy warships (including submarines). Some Model 870 shotguns are still in use today by the U.S. military.

Although the weapons only saw limited action in Vietnam, the Remington Mark 1 and M870 riot guns were among the best of the U.S. combat shotguns of the era.

Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:42:38 PM EST
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No complaints and it shoots dead on at 10 yards.
Looking to sell that cooler?
Are you looking for a little playmate?
Blue or black ones are rare
Red or yellow comman
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:47:23 PM EST
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https://www.gunsamerica.com/digest/milsurp-u-s-military-remington-model-870-shotguns/

M870 Military Riot Gun

In addition to the special Mark 1 variant, a number of Model 870 shotguns were procured by all branches of the service, especially the United States Navy. Most of these were standard M870 plain barrel riot (typically 18-inch to 20-inch barrels). Most such guns purchased by the government had factory parkerized finishes, but a surprising number had standard commercial blued finishes. Most of these guns were purchased in the early to mid-1970s, several years after the Mark 1 contract was completed.

Some of the Model 870 riot guns were fitted with sling swivels, and an extended magazine tube/ bayonet adapter kit that was developed by Remington. Such guns resembled the USMC contract Mark 1 but had shorter barrels and were not fitted with rifle sights. Remington made both parkerized and blued extended magazine/bayonet adapter kits that were also sold to the law enforcement and civilian arms markets. Conversion of existing riot guns was accomplished by simply screwing on the magazine tube extension and clamping on the bayonet adapter, which was secured by three screws. It is reported that the U.S. Air Force as well as the U.S. Navy utilized these conversion kits on some of their M870 riot guns.

Model 870 riot guns were popular with U.S. Navy “SEALS” as well as a number of other units. After Vietnam, the weapons were used for various duties, including the protection of American embassies around the world. Some of these shotguns were also fitted with folding stocks and a few had their barrels cut back to as short as 14 inches to make them handier for use in confined spaces such as embassy guard houses and the arms racks of Navy warships (including submarines). Some Model 870 shotguns are still in use today by the U.S. military.

Although the weapons only saw limited action in Vietnam, the Remington Mark 1 and M870 riot guns were among the best of the U.S. combat shotguns of the era.

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You must be new here
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:56:41 PM EST
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Can anyone recommend any good gunsmithing screwdriver sets that aren't too expensive?  I saw a set of Wheeler bits on Amazon for like $25 that looked like they would work.  I'd like to take my bayonet lug mounts off to clean and don't want to damage anything anymore than it is already.
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Brownells Magna is what you seek.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 8:57:57 PM EST
[#49]
Mine was delivered a day early. That means I now have to be at work all day knowing its sitting there waiting for me.
Link Posted: 10/23/2018 9:01:26 PM EST
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Is there supposed to be a cap over the back screw on the folding stock/grip? Mine just has a hole.

Bore looks new.

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