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Posted: 10/23/2018 4:24:18 PM EST

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Yup, I'm kicking myself because I only ordered one.

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Basically this is me too. I ordered a fixed one and went back a hour later to order another and they were gone.

Hopefully The one I got is in good shape! FFL will have it on Thursday.

Posted: 10/23/2018 4:30:17 PM EST

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How many ARFCOMers did he screw over by admittedly buying them himself using their cards to get past the limit of 2 rule? I know he screwed me over. Simple typo in check out caused me to miss a folder. Had he not bought 10 guns I would have had 1.

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I am not sure I believe him anyway, how would know there was a limit ? That wasn't posted in the ad and supposedly only came out later. He wouldn't have known to order two at a time.

Even if did, it isn't necessarily a straw purchase. ATF doesn't care about some companies limit of 2, if he did the 4473 on all ten no straw purchase. If he bought them all, but had others fill out the form for him, then yes that is a crime.

Posted: 10/23/2018 4:37:32 PM EST

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Picked mine up today. Will post details in the other thread.

The folder is pristine, looks like it has never been fired. Al screws and pins present, folder locks back like it should No rust, bluing is gorgeous.
The fixed stock is great from the receiver forward. The extension cap is buggered like many others and the stock has a bunch of dings and scratches, but no rust and the bluing is great.

Posted: 10/23/2018 4:37:34 PM EST

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Feel fortunate. My 2 folders are still processing

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This is killing me. Mine still hasn't been delivered. My FFL closes at 1700. Usually FedEx and UPS get to his place no later than 1500.

This sucks.

Feel fortunate. My 2 folders are still processing

That sucks. Hopefully they ship soon.

FedEx finally delivered mine to the FFL at 1645. Fourteen minutes before he closed. Looks like I'll have mine tomorrow.

Posted: 10/23/2018 4:38:04 PM EST

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While he is being a douche...give the whole "straw purchase" thing a rest. If he can legally own the firearm it's not a straw purchase.

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LOL.... I'm gonna need to see photo to prove that. Also you admit that you possibly straw purchased them and plan on selling them for a profit and not have an FFL.

While he is being a douche...give the whole "straw purchase" thing a rest. If he can legally own the firearm it's not a straw purchase.

That's not true. BATFE filed charges on a Deputy in my former SO because he wanted to buy a gun he found at a gunshow, realized he had forgot his ID or his CC, had his wife, also a Deputy do the transfer in her name. Why they did that, I don't know, I can't stand the Feds. They come in, push their weight around, then leave us the mess to clean up.

Posted: 10/23/2018 4:40:16 PM EST

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Great pictures I’m so jealous , according to my State [Kalifornia] Shotguns Cause Cancer.
Damn Prop 65 .

Posted: 10/23/2018 4:40:34 PM EST

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Just picked up my folder. Looked to be never fired. Still has cosmoline in and on the action. Has a small brown mark on the side of the receiver but I think it's just dried cosmoline not rust. No scratches or rack tag, also no sling. Couldn't be happier!

Posted: 10/23/2018 4:41:21 PM EST

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Finally got to pick mine up. Definitely not the cherry gun some of y'all got. Biggest issue is a screw missing out of the bayonet lug.
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Those Bayonet Band Screws are a special Fillisterhead, I believe they are called. Numrich had some in stock yesterday in blued and parkerized. Always use hollow grind screwdriver bits on these, not your Stanley toolbox screwdriver with the taper blade that damages the slot.

@OhioEd
Used
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1721020
New
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/833780

Posted: 10/23/2018 4:42:27 PM EST

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Basically this is me too. I ordered a fixed one and went back a hour later to order another and they were gone.

Hopefully The one I got is in good shape! FFL will have it on Thursday.

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Yup, I'm kicking myself because I only ordered one.

Basically this is me too. I ordered a fixed one and went back a hour later to order another and they were gone.

Hopefully The one I got is in good shape! FFL will have it on Thursday.

I didn't even know there were folders until after they were sold out. I would've bought a fixed and a folding had I known about the folders.

Posted: 10/23/2018 4:48:27 PM EST

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Got my folder and fixed today.

The folder looks outstanding, it probably sat in the armory its whole life. The fixed stock has some minor dings in the furniture, nothing major, and there's very minor wear in the bluing from being racked.
I'm impressed, this was a steal for these shotguns. Thanks OP!

Posted: 10/23/2018 4:55:11 PM EST

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It’s more along the lines that these were used by a branch of the US Military. So far we’ve found that these shotguns were also used in a prison riot in the 90s. They may not have war history in a foreign theater, but that doesn’t mean that domestic service by our military is insignificant.

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Do you have any other examples of weapons used by state national guards for domestic operations that increased the value?

Posted: 10/23/2018 4:56:28 PM EST

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Yes, people do care.

Same happens with LE guns attached to certain events too.

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Do you have some examples? Obviously something like Bonnie and Clyde doesn’t count.

Posted: 10/23/2018 5:01:46 PM EST

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Do you have some examples? Obviously something like Bonnie and Clyde doesn’t count.

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Yes, people do care.

Same happens with LE guns attached to certain events too.

Do you have some examples? Obviously something like Bonnie and Clyde doesn’t count.

LOL looks like we caught another one in this thread. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Posted: 10/23/2018 5:02:42 PM EST

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Do you have any other examples of weapons used by state national guards for domestic operations that increased the value?

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I don’t think any exist. That’s kind of the point and why this is super cool and somewhat unprecedented.

Posted: 10/23/2018 5:03:21 PM EST

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Do you have any other examples of weapons used by state national guards for domestic operations that increased the value?

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It's more along the lines that these were used by a branch of the US Military. So far we've found that these shotguns were also used in a prison riot in the 90s. They may not have war history in a foreign theater, but that doesn't mean that domestic service by our military is insignificant.

Do you have any other examples of weapons used by state national guards for domestic operations that increased the value?

Florida National Guard Mosin Nagants.

A number of them were given to local state employees. Very few are knwon to exist today in private hands.

Posted: 10/23/2018 5:04:21 PM EST

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Yes, people do care.

Same happens with LE guns attached to certain events too.

Do you have some examples? Obviously something like Bonnie and Clyde doesn't count.

S&W 1076s from the FBI. FHP Colt Pythons. USPI Ruger Speed Sixes.

Posted: 10/23/2018 5:07:41 PM EST

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LOL looks like we caught another one in this thread. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Well I bought 4, so I guess you don’t know what you are talking about. REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Posted: 10/23/2018 5:08:41 PM EST

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Got mine.

I really love the folding stock

I wish someone would modernize this style of top folder in a not lame plastic way.

Posted: 10/23/2018 5:08:41 PM EST

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On my way home with number 2. It’s in as good or better shape than the first one and it came with a sling.

Posted: 10/23/2018 5:10:40 PM EST

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S&W 1076s from the FBI. FHP Colt Pythons. USPI Ruger Speed Sixes.

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What is the price difference between a normal 1076 and a FBI issued one?

Posted: 10/23/2018 5:11:05 PM EST

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LMAO.

NoVA has some arfcommers. My FFL says he has about 10-12.

Getting mine now.

Posted: 10/23/2018 5:11:27 PM EST

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Received my two today. First has some dinged up wood, but the metal finish is 90%. Action is a bit sticky but probably needs to be cleaned. Biggest issue is that the bead appears to have been snapped off. I assume that can be relatively easily replaced.

Second gun is in 95% or better condition all around and has a sling already on it.

Posted: 10/23/2018 5:12:11 PM EST

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I got my folder in today. Overall it is in good shape except the front pin by the trigger guard is missing. The guard is jamb a little open.
They had a tag on it stating it needed a front pin then trigger guard and housing is broken. It don't look broken but just jammed. I will have to bring it to a shop
to get checked out. What a bummer.

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I removed the back pin and pulled the trigger out. I do see a chipped in the trigger housing. I tried slipping it back in and could not. I have another 870 and plan on removing the trigger housing to see if
it will work. I will do it tomorrow to give me a night away from it. Don't look good on the trigger housing.

Posted: 10/23/2018 5:13:20 PM EST

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Gots mine. Not as minty fresh as some of the ones I’ve seen. Few knicks in the wood and some light surface rust but I’m happy with it

Posted: 10/23/2018 5:13:31 PM EST

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What is the price difference between a normal 1076 and a FBI issued one?

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S&W 1076s from the FBI. FHP Colt Pythons. USPI Ruger Speed Sixes.

What is the price difference between a normal 1076 and a FBI issued one?

About a grand since the FBI guns are rare as hens teeth and very few made it out to the civilian market since the FBI does not surplus their guns. The ones that got out were bought back by S&W when the FBI dropped the 10mm Auto. Hell, a legit extended FBI mag goes for more than these shotguns sold for.

Posted: 10/23/2018 5:20:51 PM EST

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Florida National Guard Mosin Nagants.

http://i.imgur.com/akFp2SQ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/QF7Ks6W.jpg

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A number of them were given to local state employees. Very few are knwon to exist today in private hands.

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Nice! I have a FL Highway Patrol Colt 6520...still has the FLT rack number on the stock. Has some rack wear but minty inside.

Posted: 10/23/2018 5:27:23 PM EST

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Cleaned my fixed stock up last night and was shooting it today. Shoots well, Action is Smooth. Internal condition had more rust that the outside but cleaned up well enough and I'm gonna keep shooting it. Well worth the money.

Posted: 10/23/2018 5:27:38 PM EST

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pew pew

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Posted: 10/23/2018 5:28:24 PM EST

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Finally got to pick mine up. Definitely not the cherry gun some of y'all got. Biggest issue is a screw missing out of the bayonet lug.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/77917/IMG_1583_JPG-714494.JPG
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Those Bayonet Band Screws are a special Fillisterhead, I believe they are called. Numrich had some in stock yesterday in blued and parkerized. Always use hollow grind screwdriver bits on these, not your Stanley toolbox screwdriver with the taper blade that damages the slot.

@OhioEd
Used
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1721020
New
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/833780

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Thanks for the links, but I'm pretty sure those are for the small bracket type extension supports. The bayonet mounts are much thicker and require a longer screw.

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Screw removed from my bayonet mount.

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@ssgtcarroll- Would I need to send you one of my screws to get one made?

Posted: 10/23/2018 5:34:23 PM EST

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Got my fixed, looks great. Has some wear on the wood and receiver but it's been used. I love it

I am having a helluva time getting the mag ext nut off. Anybody have secrets? I've tried oil and a heat gun.

S394881V
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Posted: 10/23/2018 5:34:33 PM EST

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Thanks for the links, but I'm pretty sure those are for the small bracket type extension supports. The bayonet mounts are much thicker and require a longer screw.

Pic from gunpartscorp
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/77917/IMG_1590_JPG-714811.JPG

Screw removed from my bayonet mount.
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Hard to tell from the angle of the picture, but this may be the same thing as the other.

Remington Magazine Extension Clamp Screw 870

Of course, one review says the photo is wrong, so maybe it is the right one.

Posted: 10/23/2018 5:35:14 PM EST

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I should have mine some time between Thursday - Monday. My FFL is having some issues. I can just duplicate one of mine.

Posted: 10/23/2018 5:43:20 PM EST

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Those Bayonet Band Screws are a special Fillisterhead, I believe they are called. Numrich had some in stock yesterday in blued and parkerized. Always use hollow grind screwdriver bits on these, not your Stanley toolbox screwdriver with the taper blade that damages the slot.

@OhioEd
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https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/1721020
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https://www.gunpartscorp.com/products/833780

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Slotted Oval head, not fillister, probably a 10-32 thread. All you need is length. Longer can be trimmed down.

Posted: 10/23/2018 5:50:28 PM EST

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Sweet, our serial numbers are less than 400 apart. I wonder if anyone in this thread will find someone with a number consecutive to theirs.

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Got my fixed, looks great. Has some wear on the wood and receiver but it's been used. I love it

I am having a helluva time getting the mag ext nut off. Anybody have secrets? I've tried oil and a heat gun.

S394881V
KU barrel code

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Posted: 10/23/2018 5:55:22 PM EST

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Hard to tell from the angle of the picture, but this may be the same thing as the other.

Remington Magazine Extension Clamp Screw 870

Of course, one review says the photo is wrong, so maybe it is the right one.

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Thanks for the links, but I'm pretty sure those are for the small bracket type extension supports. The bayonet mounts are much thicker and require a longer screw.

Pic from gunpartscorp
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/77917/IMG_1590_JPG-714811.JPG

Screw removed from my bayonet mount.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/77917/IMG_1589_JPG-714812.JPG

@ssgtcarroll- Would I need to send you one of my screws to get one made?

Hard to tell from the angle of the picture, but this may be the same thing as the other.

Remington Magazine Extension Clamp Screw 870

Of course, one review says the photo is wrong, so maybe it is the right one.

That's for the standard barrel clamp.

Posted: 10/23/2018 5:59:45 PM EST

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Posted: 10/23/2018 6:01:03 PM EST

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Well I bought 4, so I guess you don't know what you are talking about. REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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LOL looks like we caught another one in this thread. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Well I bought 4, so I guess you don't know what you are talking about. REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Can you post pictures of all 4 of them together because I don't believe you? REEEEEEEEE

Posted: 10/23/2018 6:01:11 PM EST

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Mine is real nice.

Some light scratches on the top of the reciever, and obviously a wrench used for assembly/disassembly, but other than that? Gorgeous.

Posted: 10/23/2018 6:07:26 PM EST

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So in seriousness how was the recoil and...interaction with the shoulder?

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I am a big guy and it was not bad at all. If you let your face/cheek just lightly sit on the stock I can see how you could get popped in the face. When I shot it I had it in my shoulder with head upright not on the stock. It is a natural pointing gun, did not hit me in the face and recoil to shoulder was nothing.

Posted: 10/23/2018 6:07:31 PM EST

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Let me know if you need help with that screw I’ll make you one no charge.

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Finally got to pick mine up. Definitely not the cherry gun some of y'all got. Biggest issue is a screw missing out of the bayonet lug.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/77917/IMG_1583_JPG-714494.JPG
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Let me know if you need help with that screw I’ll make you one no charge.

I like you. Nice offer.

Have a lathe here so no homo.

Posted: 10/23/2018 6:08:55 PM EST

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Just picked up mine. Some light wear on the stock. One scratch on the receiver. Overall I am very happy about this shotgun. Thanks again OP! You rock!

Posted: 10/23/2018 6:10:55 PM EST

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I picked up a couple and they are cool, but some of you guys are overhyping this. I think these are going to be considered to be closer to plain trade ins then WW1 trench shotguns.

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Even without the mil provenance these are a rare factory configured gun. They were only offered in this configuration for a short time during the wind down of the Vietnam war, and they were only offered by Remington Defense to law enforcement and military. This is the only release of these model guns to the public in any real number. AFAIK there are no military M870’s and absolutely no Mk1’s in private hands. Occasionally parts have been surplused out but not complete guns. The only mil pump shotguns rarer are the WWII model 37 trench guns and the Remington Model 10 trench guns (I’ve only held one of these and have never seen a real WWII 37 in person)

Posted: 10/23/2018 6:11:17 PM EST

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Just in time for the local gun buyback.

Just kidding.

Posted: 10/23/2018 6:11:42 PM EST

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Folder arrived today.... Flawless.... Kicking my ass for not buying moar.

Posted: 10/23/2018 6:15:59 PM EST

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Can you post pictures of all 4 of them together because I don't believe you? REEEEEEEEE

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Picture of my order still in shipment. Would have had 5, but they canceled one of my folders. So once again, you were wrong. REEEEEEEEE

Posted: 10/23/2018 6:19:24 PM EST

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Sweet, our serial numbers are less than 400 apart. I wonder if anyone in this thread will find someone with a number consecutive to theirs.

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I saw a pic of someone's that was two off from one of mine.

Posted: 10/23/2018 6:27:01 PM EST

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Another reminder, if you wouldn't mind, please head to this thread to provide your serial number and barrel date codes.

Posted: 10/23/2018 6:28:35 PM EST

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Picture of my order still in shipment. Would have had 5, but they canceled one of my folders. So once again, you were wrong. REEEEEEEEE

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Can you post pictures of all 4 of them together because I don't believe you? REEEEEEEEE

Picture of my order still in shipment. Would have had 5, but they canceled one of my folders. So once again, you were wrong. REEEEEEEEE

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I was only wrong once. Go back and look who else you've been responding too. REEEEEEE

Posted: 10/23/2018 6:31:38 PM EST

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Picked up my two folders. One is near perfect condition and the other I won't feel bad shooting (some wear on the grip and some minor blemishes). I have a fixed stock that gets delivered tomorrow.

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