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Quoted: The disaster is the damage that will be caused to our reputation, relationships, and rubles. I mean dollar hegemony but I was on a roll with Rs. Not to mention the rampant fraud that will be uncovered down the road. That is just getting started. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: What is the disaster for Ukraine if/when Russia captures the remaining 10 or 20 percent of the city? What happens then? The disaster is the damage that will be caused to our reputation, relationships, and rubles. I mean dollar hegemony but I was on a roll with Rs. Not to mention the rampant fraud that will be uncovered down the road. That is just getting started. All of that from the capture of Bakhmut? No shit? |
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Quoted: Or even the basic concepts of the game… all the while admonishing others who do, and pretending those details are somehow unimportant…. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Imagine that I started a thread declaring that the Eagles chances to make the playoffs had “fallen” to zero. In the course of the thread, I made sure to use the term “sportsball.” AND… after 40 pages I revealed that I didn’t even know who Jalen Hurts was. Or even the basic concepts of the game… all the while admonishing others who do, and pretending those details are somehow unimportant…. That analogy is backwards. To make it correct, Sketti would have said the eagles had made the playoffs halfway through the season, and then the folks who are mad about the eagles making the playoffs would argue with him that they haven't made the playoffs, until they did in fact make the play offs. Then they would call sketti a troll and tell him to use Google. |
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I don't give a shit. It is a regional conflict and the US shouldn't be spending a single dime on it.
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Quoted: He used the Azov nazis for those kinds of activities. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Zelenskyy isn't the one creating mass graves, abducting children for "adoption" by Russian families in the far east, and running torture chambers. Putin is. He used the Azov nazis for those kinds of activities. Nazis! lol |
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View Quote Pretty much, shut up and steal my money. |
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Quoted: Since the source is USA Today, all information contained in the article is immediately suspect. They're one of the worst offenders of spewing fake news. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Saw an interesting story today. I wonder how effective the tanks are gonna be when/if the Ukrainians try to take back Artemivsk/Bakhmut "Fearing Russian capture, US strips sensitive tech from M1 Abrams tanks headed for Ukraine" "WASHINGTON Earlier this year, the Biden administration relented after months of pleas from Ukraine and agreed to send the country its most lethal armored vehicles: the Abrams tanks.But with Ukraine gearing up for an expected spring counteroffensive in its war with Russia, these powerful tanks are months away from reaching the frontlines of the battlefield. Abrams tanks won't be part of the initial spring assault." "As soon is the case with other weapons, the U.S. government sends stripped-down versions of its tanks to foreign governments. The Pentagon reserves its highest-end capabilities for U.S. troops. A complicating issue with sending Abrams tanks to Ukraine, officials and experts say, is the probability that one will fall into Russian hands on the battlefield." Story link Since the source is USA Today, all information contained in the article is immediately suspect. They're one of the worst offenders of spewing fake news. I don't necessarily disagree with you that USA Today is a purveyor of fake news however that doesn't mean they're wrong on this issue. We do give other countries less capable weaponry all the time. It's just going to be interesting to see how effective the Abrams will be with some of the things that make it great removed. |
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Quoted: The disaster is the damage that will be caused to our reputation, relationships, and rubles. I mean dollar hegemony but I was on a roll with Rs. Not to mention the rampant fraud that will be uncovered down the road. That is just getting started. View Quote If all of that potential downside for the US is riding is on the Ukrainians keeping the Russians out of Bakhmut, why did the US advise the Ukrainians to abandon the city to the Russians months ago? You're assigning a massive amount of significance to an arbitrary spot on the map. Certainly the Ukrainians would like to keep it. But it is not even remotely the end of the world if they lose it, especially now, having used it to tie up alot of Russian strength for the better part of a year. |
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Quoted: What is the disaster for Ukraine if/when Russia captures the remaining 10 or 20 percent of the city? What happens then? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: There is 100% chance you are 50% correct. What is the disaster for Ukraine if/when Russia captures the remaining 10 or 20 percent of the city? What happens then? Well granted I don't know the important things like who someone is and what the Russians call something but I'm guessing losing the bottom portion of your country is probably not a good thing. |
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Quoted: No from the US injecting ourselves into this. At the end of the day, it's about money laundering and incompetent foreign policy, nobody gives a shit about Ukraine's independence. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: All of that from the capture of Bakhmut? No shit? No from the US injecting ourselves into this. At the end of the day, it's about money laundering and incompetent foreign policy, nobody gives a shit about Ukraine's independence. Yup and the grift continues "More Money! U.S. to Hand Over Another $1.2 Billion in Aid to Ukraine: Report" |
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Quoted: Well granted I don't know the important things like who someone is and what the Russians call something but I'm guessing losing the bottom portion of your country is probably not a good thing. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There is 100% chance you are 50% correct. What is the disaster for Ukraine if/when Russia captures the remaining 10 or 20 percent of the city? What happens then? Well granted I don't know the important things like who someone is and what the Russians call something but I'm guessing losing the bottom portion of your country is probably not a good thing. Bakhmut is the "bottom portion" of Ukraine? |
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Quoted: Bakhmut is the "bottom portion" of Ukraine? View Quote Wonderful World SAM COOKE (with lyrics) |
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Quoted: You know you can just look at a map, right? You don't have to guess. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Well granted I don't know the important things like who someone is and what the Russians call something but I'm guessing losing the bottom portion of your country is probably not a good thing. You know you can just look at a map, right? You don't have to guess. |
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Quoted: Bakhmut is the "bottom portion" of Ukraine? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There is 100% chance you are 50% correct. What is the disaster for Ukraine if/when Russia captures the remaining 10 or 20 percent of the city? What happens then? Well granted I don't know the important things like who someone is and what the Russians call something but I'm guessing losing the bottom portion of your country is probably not a good thing. Bakhmut is the "bottom portion" of Ukraine? |
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Man, you gotta know SOMETHING about the thing you're talking about. |
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Quoted: Bakhmut is the "bottom portion" of Ukraine? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There is 100% chance you are 50% correct. What is the disaster for Ukraine if/when Russia captures the remaining 10 or 20 percent of the city? What happens then? Well granted I don't know the important things like who someone is and what the Russians call something but I'm guessing losing the bottom portion of your country is probably not a good thing. Bakhmut is the "bottom portion" of Ukraine? "What is the disaster for Ukraine..." |
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You know that's a map of Ukraine, not the city of Bakhmut, right? One is an entire country. The other is a city within that country. |
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Quoted: You know that's a map of Ukraine, not the city of Bakhmut, right? One is an entire country. The other is a city within that country. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: You know that's a map of Ukraine, not the city of Bakhmut, right? One is an entire country. The other is a city within that country. You asked "What is the disaster for Ukraine", you don't think the Ukrainians losing all this area is problematic (see area in red and purple)? I guess the Ukrainians really didn't want those cities, towns, etc Attached File |
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Quoted: You asked "What is the disaster for Ukraine", you don't think the Ukrainians losing all this area is problematic (see area in red and purple)? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/288245/FvpTWHIXoAA4yoI_jpeg-2810872.JPG View Quote I asked what the disaster was if they took the rest of Bakhmut. You are deliberately (and hilariously) lying now. |
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Quoted: I asked what the disaster was if they took the rest of Bakhmut. You are deliberately (and hilariously) lying now. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: You asked "What is the disaster for Ukraine", you don't think the Ukrainians losing all this area is problematic (see area in red and purple)? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/288245/FvpTWHIXoAA4yoI_jpeg-2810872.JPG I asked what the disaster was if they took the rest of Bakhmut. You are deliberately (and hilariously) lying now. You said. "What is the disaster for Ukraine if/when Russia captures the remaining 10 or 20 percent of the city? What happens then?" But hey if you think losing a city/more real estate isn't a disaster I, along with the people who live there, are gonna have to disagree. |
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Quoted: You said. "What is the disaster for Ukraine if/when Russia captures the remaining 10 or 20 percent of the city? What happens then?" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You asked "What is the disaster for Ukraine", you don't think the Ukrainians losing all this area is problematic (see area in red and purple)? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/288245/FvpTWHIXoAA4yoI_jpeg-2810872.JPG I asked what the disaster was if they took the rest of Bakhmut. You are deliberately (and hilariously) lying now. You said. "What is the disaster for Ukraine if/when Russia captures the remaining 10 or 20 percent of the city? What happens then?" Are you okay? |
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Quoted: You said. "What is the disaster for Ukraine if/when Russia captures the remaining 10 or 20 percent of the city? What happens then?" But hey if you think losing a city/more real estate isn't a disaster I, along with the people who live there, are gonna have to disagree. View Quote They've lost bigger cities. They've retaken bigger cities. What is the specific disaster that will be caused by losing Bakhmut in particular? I made this question very clear by adding "What happens next?" as a follow on question. I don't think I could have made this any clearer or more reasonable. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You asked "What is the disaster for Ukraine", you don't think the Ukrainians losing all this area is problematic (see area in red and purple)? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/288245/FvpTWHIXoAA4yoI_jpeg-2810872.JPG I asked what the disaster was if they took the rest of Bakhmut. You are deliberately (and hilariously) lying now. You said. "What is the disaster for Ukraine if/when Russia captures the remaining 10 or 20 percent of the city? What happens then?" Are you okay? I fear the stress finally catched up and made him snap. |
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Quoted: They've lost bigger cities. They've retaken bigger cities. What is the specific disaster that will be caused by losing Bakhmut in particular? I made this question very clear by adding "What happens next?" as a follow on question. I don't think I could have made this any clearer or more reasonable. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: You said. "What is the disaster for Ukraine if/when Russia captures the remaining 10 or 20 percent of the city? What happens then?" But hey if you think losing a city/more real estate isn't a disaster I, along with the people who live there, are gonna have to disagree. They've lost bigger cities. They've retaken bigger cities. What is the specific disaster that will be caused by losing Bakhmut in particular? I made this question very clear by adding "What happens next?" as a follow on question. I don't think I could have made this any clearer or more reasonable. Well I know I'm not super smart like you guys but I thought it was pretty obvious "What happens next?" - More death, destruction, and swindling. |
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Quoted: Well I know I'm not super smart like you guys but I thought it was pretty obvious "What happens next?" - More death, destruction, and swindling. View Quote Honestly and with respect you would learn more being quiet and reading some of the posts of those who have more knowledge than yourself. |
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Quoted: If you claim to not be super smart then why do you post such outlandish claims with such certainty? Honestly and with respect you would learn more being quiet and reading some of the posts of those who have more knowledge than yourself. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Well I know I'm not super smart like you guys but I thought it was pretty obvious "What happens next?" - More death, destruction, and swindling. Honestly and with respect you would learn more being quiet and reading some of the posts of those who have more knowledge than yourself. I'm curious, what's your thoughts on the fall of Bakhnut? |
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Quoted: The funny thing is Ukraine is winning this war. That's what pro Russians such as yourself refuse to accept View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: "What is the disaster for Ukraine..." The funny thing is Ukraine is winning this war. That's what pro Russians such as yourself refuse to accept "The funny thing is Ukraine is winning this war." - just not in Bakhmut though, right? Lol, I'm "pro Russian", you crack me up! |
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Quoted: "The funny thing is Ukraine is winning this war." - just not in Bakhmut though, right? Lol, I'm "pro Russian", you crack me up! View Quote You absolutely are. If the USA invaded Iraq and made it to the outskirts of Baghdad then got pushed back and spent the next 15 months losing ground while Iraq was stronger, who would be winning? Sure, we held some areas next to Saudi Arabia, but when our stated goal was to remove saddam and we had to dig out m47 tanks because we lost so many abrams tanks would that really be a victory? |
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Quoted: I am not smart enough to make any claims so I will sit quietly and observe the outcome. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I'm curious, what's your thoughts on the fall of Bakhnut? Interesting, well thanks for adding to the discussion. |
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Quoted: You absolutely are. If the USA invaded Iraq and made it to the outskirts of Baghdad then got pushed back and spent the next 15 months losing ground while Iraq was stronger, who would be winning? Sure, we held some areas next to Saudi Arabia, but when our stated goal was to remove saddam and we had to dig out m47 tanks because we lost so many abrams tanks would that really be a victory? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: "The funny thing is Ukraine is winning this war." - just not in Bakhmut though, right? Lol, I'm "pro Russian", you crack me up! You absolutely are. If the USA invaded Iraq and made it to the outskirts of Baghdad then got pushed back and spent the next 15 months losing ground while Iraq was stronger, who would be winning? Sure, we held some areas next to Saudi Arabia, but when our stated goal was to remove saddam and we had to dig out m47 tanks because we lost so many abrams tanks would that really be a victory? Could you please link to any "Pro-Russian" comments I've made so I could maybe clear things up. Oh, and just FYI, being anti Zenensky and anti US involvement in the Ukraine war isn't technically Pro-Russian, it just simply means I see Zelensky as the corrupt global puppet he is and that I feel our involvement in a war that's none of our business is going to be a disaster for us. |
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BAKHMUT, UKRAINE holds!
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Quoted: Could you please link to any "pro-russian" comments I've made so I could maybe clear things up. Oh, and just FYI, being anti Zenensky and anti US involvement in the Ukraine war isn't technically Pro-Russian, it just simply means I see Zelensky as the corrupt global puppet he is and that I feel our involvement in a war that's none of our business is going to be a disaster for us. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: "The funny thing is Ukraine is winning this war." - just not in Bakhmut though, right? Lol, I'm "pro Russian", you crack me up! You absolutely are. If the USA invaded Iraq and made it to the outskirts of Baghdad then got pushed back and spent the next 15 months losing ground while Iraq was stronger, who would be winning? Sure, we held some areas next to Saudi Arabia, but when our stated goal was to remove saddam and we had to dig out m47 tanks because we lost so many abrams tanks would that really be a victory? Could you please link to any "pro-russian" comments I've made so I could maybe clear things up. Oh, and just FYI, being anti Zenensky and anti US involvement in the Ukraine war isn't technically Pro-Russian, it just simply means I see Zelensky as the corrupt global puppet he is and that I feel our involvement in a war that's none of our business is going to be a disaster for us. Several times, you’ve been caught bloviating about stuff without even understanding the players in the game or the landmarks on the field, yet you know all about Zelinsky? Putin’s regime is more corrupt, yet you don’t even mention that for some odd reason… |
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Quoted: Could you please link to any "Pro-Russian" comments I've made so I could maybe clear things up. Oh, and just FYI, being anti Zenensky and anti US involvement in the Ukraine war isn't technically Pro-Russian, it just simply means I see Zelensky as the corrupt global puppet he is and that I feel our involvement in a war that's none of our business is going to be a disaster for us. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: "The funny thing is Ukraine is winning this war." - just not in Bakhmut though, right? Lol, I'm "pro Russian", you crack me up! You absolutely are. If the USA invaded Iraq and made it to the outskirts of Baghdad then got pushed back and spent the next 15 months losing ground while Iraq was stronger, who would be winning? Sure, we held some areas next to Saudi Arabia, but when our stated goal was to remove saddam and we had to dig out m47 tanks because we lost so many abrams tanks would that really be a victory? Could you please link to any "Pro-Russian" comments I've made so I could maybe clear things up. Oh, and just FYI, being anti Zenensky and anti US involvement in the Ukraine war isn't technically Pro-Russian, it just simply means I see Zelensky as the corrupt global puppet he is and that I feel our involvement in a war that's none of our business is going to be a disaster for us. Well, only morons and pro-Russian mouthpieces say things like "Zelensky is a corrupt global puppet", so there you go. |
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Quoted: Could you please link to any "Pro-Russian" comments I've made so I could maybe clear things up. Oh, and just FYI, being anti Zenensky and anti US involvement in the Ukraine war isn't technically Pro-Russian, it just simply means I see Zelensky as the corrupt global puppet he is and that I feel our involvement in a war that's none of our business is going to be a disaster for us. View Quote There are really only three options to the question of “who do you want to win the conflict?” - Russia - Ukraine - I don’t care You have already opted out of “I don’t care” with 65 pages in this thread. |
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Quoted: BAKHMUT, UKRAINE holds!
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Quoted: Several times, you've been caught bloviating about stuff without even understanding the players in the game or the landmarks on the field, yet you know all about Zelinsky? Putin's regime is more corrupt, yet you don't even mention that for some odd reason View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: "The funny thing is Ukraine is winning this war." - just not in Bakhmut though, right? Lol, I'm "pro Russian", you crack me up! You absolutely are. If the USA invaded Iraq and made it to the outskirts of Baghdad then got pushed back and spent the next 15 months losing ground while Iraq was stronger, who would be winning? Sure, we held some areas next to Saudi Arabia, but when our stated goal was to remove saddam and we had to dig out m47 tanks because we lost so many abrams tanks would that really be a victory? Could you please link to any "pro-russian" comments I've made so I could maybe clear things up. Oh, and just FYI, being anti Zenensky and anti US involvement in the Ukraine war isn't technically Pro-Russian, it just simply means I see Zelensky as the corrupt global puppet he is and that I feel our involvement in a war that's none of our business is going to be a disaster for us. Several times, you've been caught bloviating about stuff without even understanding the players in the game or the landmarks on the field, yet you know all about Zelinsky? Putin's regime is more corrupt, yet you don't even mention that for some odd reason "Putin's regime is more corrupt, yet you don't even mention that for some odd reason " - Well I have repeatedly stated Putin is a POS, but ok. As for mentioning Ukriane/Zelensky more, well our troops aren't in Russian, they're in the Ukraine. Our monies and valuable resources aren't going to Russia, they're going to Ukraine and lining Zelensky's pockets. And like I've said before, I couldn't care less about the Ukrainian war other than the stupidity of us getting involved in it and the continuing wasting of our resources. |
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Quoted: There are really only three options to the question of "who do you want to win the conflict?" - Russia - Ukraine - I don't care You have already opted out of "I don't care" with 65 pages in this thread. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Could you please link to any "Pro-Russian" comments I've made so I could maybe clear things up. Oh, and just FYI, being anti Zenensky and anti US involvement in the Ukraine war isn't technically Pro-Russian, it just simply means I see Zelensky as the corrupt global puppet he is and that I feel our involvement in a war that's none of our business is going to be a disaster for us. There are really only three options to the question of "who do you want to win the conflict?" - Russia - Ukraine - I don't care You have already opted out of "I don't care" with 65 pages in this thread. I have repeatedly stated what's important to me, please see my previous posts |
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Quoted: I have repeatedly stated what's important to me, please see my previous posts View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Could you please link to any "Pro-Russian" comments I've made so I could maybe clear things up. Oh, and just FYI, being anti Zenensky and anti US involvement in the Ukraine war isn't technically Pro-Russian, it just simply means I see Zelensky as the corrupt global puppet he is and that I feel our involvement in a war that's none of our business is going to be a disaster for us. There are really only three options to the question of "who do you want to win the conflict?" - Russia - Ukraine - I don't care You have already opted out of "I don't care" with 65 pages in this thread. I have repeatedly stated what's important to me, please see my previous posts You can’t answer the question? |
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Quoted: Could you please link to any "Pro-Russian" comments I've made so I could maybe clear things up. Oh, and just FYI, being anti Zenensky and anti US involvement in the Ukraine war isn't technically Pro-Russian, it just simply means I see Zelensky as the corrupt global puppet he is and that I feel our involvement in a war that's none of our business is going to be a disaster for us. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: "The funny thing is Ukraine is winning this war." - just not in Bakhmut though, right? Lol, I'm "pro Russian", you crack me up! You absolutely are. If the USA invaded Iraq and made it to the outskirts of Baghdad then got pushed back and spent the next 15 months losing ground while Iraq was stronger, who would be winning? Sure, we held some areas next to Saudi Arabia, but when our stated goal was to remove saddam and we had to dig out m47 tanks because we lost so many abrams tanks would that really be a victory? Could you please link to any "Pro-Russian" comments I've made so I could maybe clear things up. Oh, and just FYI, being anti Zenensky and anti US involvement in the Ukraine war isn't technically Pro-Russian, it just simply means I see Zelensky as the corrupt global puppet he is and that I feel our involvement in a war that's none of our business is going to be a disaster for us. Do you think that Russia appreciates that there are people saying stuff on the internet that aligns perfectly with their messaging campaign? |
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Interesting
"Ukraine has been attempting to mount a "spring" counteroffensive against Russian forces, but there are indications that the Ukrainian military is still not ready. Czech President Petr Pavel, who recently met with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said, "Apparently, they still have a feeling that they do not have everything to start successfully an operation," "It will be extremely harmful to Ukraine if this counteroffensive fails, because they will not have another chance, at least not this year," Pavel said, adding that Ukraine would face "terrible losses" during the counteroffensive and could not afford for it to fail." |
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