Perhaps the rating is the first fucking hint.  What a nothingburger

Would appreciate it. The engineered outrage gets old. Heck, my wife dragged me to see the new Indiana Jones movie. I'd let GD and Youtube completely distort my understanding of it, and I like to think I'm more resistant to the propaganda. Nope.

GD cracks me up, because they preach good parenting....but then very loudly proclaim that they will shield their kids from anything they deem offensive, even if they haven't already screened it.

Guess what, your kid is going to grow up in a few years and be an adult that has to function on their own and be exposed to all kinds of crazy shit, best to help them on the journey and answer questions along the way so they have some kind of gauge for what is and isn't acceptable and prevent them from becoming so isolated in their world view that they avoid anything that might potentially be uncomfortable and form an opinion without any exposure to it.

I'm not terribly concerned about a PG13 movie, based on an IP of a children's toy, starring two of the best actors in the business.

I took the kids to a 60th birthday party last night for a family friend, and half the couples over 50 there were the result of divorce, breakup and infidelity.....I would gather that seeing that as normal behavior is probably more damaging to them than a movie we go to watch together.

we saw Deadpool and Deadpool 2 on both opening nights. there was a lot of kids at both of them. I can get the first one, but by the time 2 rolled around, you should have known better.

It seems every other day there's a new Youtube channel or other media outlet that has discovered how lucrative the Conservative Outrage sphere can be, and many are not limited in the least by any sense of or desire for accuracy. Then, if one video or what not starts getting hits by spreading outrage, the others join in with copy-cat alternatives hoping to ride the wave.

I am not picking through 9 pages of redacted user names to find your edited posts, it it is even the same thread and not a dupe.

Another poster here has already confirmed my assertion.

Box office now projected over $300mm opening weekend

Actually, it seems like most of GD considers marriage and children as being a "cuck". And when a friend has a baby and isn't interested in putting his bachelor friends first, it's because they've been "cucked".

For a website that praises hookers and blow, and suggests "getting laid" as a cure for a breakup, it can get pretty puritanical sometimes.

Before anyone accuses me of being a drag show for kids supporter, I'm not. That shouldn't be tolerated. But nobody is going to do anything about it anymore than they do anything about anything else.

Again, do kids still play with barbies? It seems like the only people I know that have any interest in them are older folks, boomers, that actually grew up in that era. I never once thought it was going to be a kid movie. Look at the soundtrack for crying out loud.

Mouth

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Nothing edited Poncho. Just more of your delusions and lies. Your friend is as delusional as you are.

I also have confirmation in this thread that you're delusional, and a liar. You can't back up anything you say.

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Nope.

My girls played with them a lot, the youngest still does, but not as much as she used to unless she has a friend over.

My nieces were big into them too, and the youngest niece brings a shopping bag full of Barbies whenever she has to get into the car and go somewhere.

How many 20 year olds you know still playing with Barbies?  GTFOH

Yes, younger girls still play Barbie.  They watch all the animated Barbie movies as well.  

I went with my older niece, her Mom and friends.  We dressed in pink and bling and did our nails bright pink, etc.
For us older ladies,it was nostalgic.  We had A Barbieque planned for after.

I did not like the movie at all.
At first watching the set pieces and clothes was so fun!

However I instantly thought of Barbie as a narcissist bitch, along with all the other Barbies.  Her treatment of Ken was awful.
It didn’t get any better.  The movie was shooting for Toy Story vibes with Andy and his toys.  It missed the mark entirely.

The whole executive board of Mattel was embarrassing to watch.

I groaned many times and wanted to slap the bitch daughter.  She uses the word Fascist like all liberal loonies without understanding its meaning.

It fails at being nostalgic for us older Barbie owners.  There are few of the iconic clothes and none of the gowns Barbie is remembered for.  There was no surprise about the ghost either as you know it’s Barbie creator.

I wasn’t entertained, more annoyed at the whole thing.

I felt weird about the red head Barbie, now I know why after reading this thread.  Red heads are what Barbies I used to collect, so I am doubly disappointed.

Help me connect the dots here.

Are you suggesting that one has to still actively play with Barbies for this movie to be marketed to them?

Have we forgotten the GI Joe and Transformers threads already?

LOL

Old farts collect them. It's like beanie babies.

Surprised this hasn’t been posted yet…

Saw it last night.  As others have already noted, OP’s post is a bunch of pearl clutching panic.  I don’t know why people are so desperate to find something offensive in everything they see these days.

I thought it was entertaining.  If you get all worked about up about how they portray men, then you need to learn to take a joke.

Goddamn, he made it 45 minutes, and it's dense with examples of the obvious. They didn't even try to hide it.
Just so obvious.

Oh and Ben, who understands hollywood very well, mentioned that The previews for the other movies are for a young audience.
Ratings are a Maginot line, and deep down we all know that.
It's "not a kid's movie" but it is a movie that is 100,000% meant for people to bring their kids to it for their kids to see - not for adults to see and their kids some along.


It's marketed towards kids, geared towards them, the toy itself is largely enjoyed by 5-9 year olds according to Ben (I doubt he's wrong on that)
He also remarks that it's confusing "just who was this movie made for, exactly?"
We must keep in mind that Hollyweird delights in pushing their religious messaging and adult themes onto children.
This is what some of the "Grooming" debate is about.
The "culture war" more broadly is tangling with: Just how much woke religious/political messaging (Think of it like radical islam in that way) can be pushed onto children by schools/TV.


They put unreal amounts of cringe-feminism into this film, Which apparently GD's dumbfuck brigade is passionate about because.. it.. makes them... tough, or something?
Complete with audience lecture(s), which they missed, because of course they did.

Themes like:
- Citizen's United SCOTUS case
- "Facism" (a topic hollywood will cover accurately and fairly )
- A border wall (kid's movie so relax but it's not a kids movie, so relax lmao)
- "patriarchy"
- "jokes" about "Beaching eachother off" (not gay at all right?)
- trans themes
- Muh big business is male and bad (btw apparently Barbie was made by a woman, their board is ~50% female, I wonder if their Barbie hating writers knew that?),
the list goes on.

You have to slam your head into the sand at like Mach 2.5 to pretend to not catch any of this ^
But then again, pattern recognition tracks with IQ, and independent thought in 2023 can carry social shaming risks - there are reasons some may miss it (or pretend they did.)

The "worst take you've ever heard" starter pack:


people might mean it though.


Remember back when so many states were locked down, and parents got curious and looked over at the computer screen to find out what their kids were learning in school and they were flabbergasted?
"How could it get like this? What in the fuck?!?!"

It's because when people like this woman were doing the obvious:


The people had their pattern recognition functioning normally and tried to point out the obvious, got ignored (or mocked from a place of lesser understanding lmao)



TLDR:
- Please do consider believing these people when they tell you who they are, and consider the idea that we should stop making people who literally hate you and your values, rich.
OP's right.

I must have missed it. Sorry man!

Just like there are people who have discovered how lucrative the "dur hurp, you're just outraged because you're chldish" sphere...

I mean, if that's the game we're playing.

My 14 year old went to see it with a friend and said it was a total shitshow.

Love Barbie movie. Love Ukraine. Love NYC. Hate Trump.

CHECK!!!!

Sounds like you got the same treatment that people who read tolkeins books got from the amazon thing, I bet the GI Joe guys have been treated similarly, and I'm just waiting on transformers to have the same thing happen at the same scale.

It's mentally broken to say "parents you might wanna screen this first before taking your young kids to it" as "is "pearl clutching panic."

Darn near as broken as saying bruce jenner is a woman.

eta: Somehow, I am still a little bit surprised at how far people will go to defend messed up stuff as if it were acceptable.

Yall bitch about leftist revolutionaries and than go act exactly like them when it comes to 90% of the social stuff than have the nerve to act surprised when the stuff you were told would happen happened.





... the other option is NOT to be a boring frump.

You are shouting into a vacuum friend. Look at all the degenerates here that applaud the sexualization of Barbie. That way a 5 year old will feel comfortable discussing her vagina with them. Its a groomers dream.

I must have missed those people

I haven't missed the lesson of The Boy Who Cried Wolf.

This movie may very well be then most subversive piece of child grooming propaganda ever. I haven't seen it. Have no plans to. But if you don't realize how absolutely non -credible so many the voices out there have made themselves, I can't help you.

I sent this thread to the wife yesterday. She and a bunch of other moms were taking a bunch of girls and my 8 year old daughter to see the Barbie movie today.

They just got home and she said that this thread is complete horseshit. She said that the closest thing to a cross dressing dude was Michael Cera’s character. He was apparently the only other guy in Barbie land and helped the girls get dressed but it wasn’t anything that was overt or would even raise questions from the kids.

No part of the movie discussed a lack of genitalia or surgeries to make a vagina.

Stupid thread is stupid. Let’s just have a problem with everything we can.

Who is she going to believe, her own eyes and ears or what people on the internet who haven't even seen it yet have said?

Gosh, she's so easily manipulated.

That's what YOU are doing.

Now who's clutching pearls.

Any instance that says "Hey, pay attention" is automatically "well this can ONLY be that so ..."

ETA: just jump up and down and say it must be an instance of what you say it is.  Never demonstrate that it is or show your math.

I mean, especially if it really IS that. Because that would just make your job too easy.

His promotional stuff for the movie
https://www.vogue.com/article/hari-nef-transgender-model-img-interview

Wildly uber arch conservatives vouge saying he's a dude who says he's a chick.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6341515/
IMDB might know something about which movies people are cast in. Oh look, it shows him in the barbie movie being discussed.


https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/2023/07/20/851/n/1922283
/68bc0fbe64b98a6550f3a6.40435345_MCDBARB_WB06/i/Hari-Nef-as-Doctor-Barbie.jpg
There he is IN it.


https://www.abc4.com/news/entertainment-news/parent-watch-is-the-barbie-movie-suitable-for-kids/

https://kiss951.com/2023/07/21/a-parents-guide-to-taking-the-kids-to-see-barbie-movie/

https://noguiltlife.com/quotes-from-barbie-movie-2023/





extra credit for the whack-off jokes:



You might wanna show this to the wife and ask why she said there was NO discussion of genetailia in the flick and how she managed to miss the dude in womanface.

The guy doesn't even pass very well.

Okay, we made it. I'll do my best to write out an unbiased opinion.

Here's the short version.

They had it, right in their hands, headed for a touchdown......and they fumbled it.

The longer version.

So naturally they had to check their inclusion boxes, fat and trans Barbie.....gross, but whatever, you know it going in.

Two main themes are at play. Stereotyping, and absurdity, and both would be great if they actually stuck to them.

The set pieces and costumes were great. The inclusion of obscure and discontinued Barbies was funny. Like Alan....he's just Alan.

So Act 1 was hilarious (I thought). Sticking to the absurdity of the reality they are in was funny, and it very much reflected the vibe of the Dream House animated show. The Kens were written as goofballs, which is fine because they are literally accessories to Barbie, they've never held the spotlight in that world. Giving Ken an existential crisis made perfect sense and they really had room to run with it.

Act 2, when they get to the real world, was plagued with thematic inconsistency. If you want to stick to absurdity, do it. If you want to portray stereotyping, then do that too, and make sure they are both obvious.

Where they fucked up big time I think is that they portrayed stereotypical men, then immediately turned it into a serious issue within the movie, and took the absurdity right out. I think they were on the right track but then get very carried away and tried to turn it into a message, one that is no longer relevant.

They steered out of that skid heading into the final part of the movie, but at that point they've already committed and they have to run with it.

I thought it was great that Ken took "patriarchy" back to the Barbieland and used it to fuck things all up, I don't see an issue with that storyline as long as it wasn't as pointed, it felt extremely forced. There's a brief moment where Ken says "It doesn't feel good does it" and that is the dynamic they needed to play off, not all men being against all women all the time.

The Barbies then learning how to manipulate the Kens also wasn't out of place, that's just classic women's comedy in a million other films.

The closing of the movie, starting with the Ken War until the end was fine, they managed to get back on track a bit and stick to the tone the whole film should have been. Then you have the logical character growth and closure.

The Mattel board being completely inept was pretty funny, it showed that they weren't afraid to poke fun at themselves, and fit with the absurd theme perfectly.

Really I think they had everything they needed to make a great film, and they clogged up the middle of it by trying to make it into a message. I honestly think that at some point there will be a fan made edit that will be what this movie should have been right off the editing floor the first time. It's all there, they just didn't quite hit the mark.

I wouldn't go as far as calling it a man hating film.....but I might label it Toxic Feminism.

I think that you should still go in knowing exactly what it is, it's not a kid's movie, and the trailers never made it look like one. Like I predicted, there's a lot of tongue in cheek quips and adult focused inside jokes.

The kids enjoyed it, because Barbie. My wife felt the same way I did, the beginning and end were good, the middle was all fucky and out of place.

How do you not market Barbie for kids?…

The movie is funny and light hearted. I am the biggest culture warrior around and I hate the media propaganda industry but this movie doesn't shove anything down anyone's throat. The views on men are in line with what little girls think of little boys and that's part of the charm and humor of it. There's a fucking fantastic part where Ken basically takes over and makes everything resemble what a little boy would like, and that part is funny too. I went into it after hearing some reviews thinking it was gonna be a feminst cringe-fest but honestly its not there.

It's not a kids movie though, a lot of the humor is going to be way over their heads, but its not entirely inappropriate. Probably the weirdest question they might have is after the ending they might wonder "whats a gynecologist?" but damn, just tell them its a doctor who takes care of hoo-ha's and move on. Shit. This movie does not push anything that would be outside the scope of a typical "girl-power" movie of the 90s

@sitdwnandhngon

Thank you.

Why do they refer to "penis" and "vagina" as scatological? It's the actual terms for those bits and pieces.

That scene was a nothing burger for a PG13 movie.....and there is no mention, ever of surgery regarding genitalia.

Re: the gynecologist thing ...

What's the exact bit of the movie that makes you say that?

Heck if I know. I thought that was wierd word choice too, as if they didn't know the word for the concept they were thinking.

In the last scene, Barbie has become human and left Barbieland, she's getting a pep talk from her new friends before some kind of meeting or job and they say stuff like "You got this" and she walks into a building.

The lady goes "How may I help you?"

And she says something like "I would like to see my gynecologist"....implying that she really is a human now.....then the credits roll.

Ah.

So that's where people are getting that from.

So anyone that's seen The Hobbit trilogy and rolled their eyes at it....there is a couple great fan edits that cut them down into a single 3-4 hour movie that are much more like the book.

I really think that someone can do the same with this movie and make it something great with about a 70-90 minute run time. I wouldn't be surprised a bit if within a year or two after it's available on streaming that someone releases one.

PAGING FANEDITS TO THE COURTESY PHONE!

https://ifdb.fanedit.org/

Took my five year old to see sausage fest years ago, no regrets lol

Since when have theaters enforced movie ratings? It's not hard to understand that this is going to draw in kids.

Would you take her to a drag show?

If not, why not?

If you would take her, than I have to ask, does what joe does to little kids creep you out?

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