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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:04:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Since when have theaters enforced movie ratings? It's not hard to understand that this is going to draw in kids. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Intended or not, your argument is one that is used to justify drag shows for minor children. If anyone ever says anything about any content at al, the "You're just a pearl clutcher" trolls come out in force. Than later when things are socially destroyed and screwed up, people who make this kind of argument lament not listening. Because clearly, telling people that a movie that's supposed to be about what is explicitly a young child's doll has stuff in it that young children won't know how to handle is "Pearl clutching."  Perhaps the rating is the first fucking hint. What a nothingburger  Since when have theaters enforced movie ratings? It's not hard to understand that this is going to draw in kids. The rating isn't a rule to be enforced, it's a guideline. Anything R and below can be viewed by anyone as long as they are accompanied by a guardian. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:05:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Since when have theaters enforced movie ratings? It's not hard to understand that this is going to draw in kids. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Intended or not, your argument is one that is used to justify drag shows for minor children. If anyone ever says anything about any content at al, the "You're just a pearl clutcher" trolls come out in force. Than later when things are socially destroyed and screwed up, people who make this kind of argument lament not listening. Because clearly, telling people that a movie that's supposed to be about what is explicitly a young child's doll has stuff in it that young children won't know how to handle is "Pearl clutching." Perhaps the rating is the first fucking hint. What a nothingburger Since when have theaters enforced movie ratings? It's not hard to understand that this is going to draw in kids. This seems to be mostly mothers and daughters going together, dressed up in pink, etc. At least that is my observation. So yeah, kids under 13 are going, but not so much by themselves, because the moms also want to see it. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:07:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Movie was never marketed for kids... So no idea what you are crying about. 100% |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:09:46 PM EST
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Quoted: It is apparently a hard pg13. In "barbie land" they talk about how they don't have genitals (ken or barbie). Barbie winds up in the real world and ... YES ... they go there.  It's not complicated . . . |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:09:55 PM EST
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Arfcom has become the target of a lot of leftist disinformation. I have not seen this movie, but reviewers I trust, such as Critical Drinker, Ben Shapiro and Clownfish TV, have all done reviews detailing the extreme man-hating feminism and woke indoctrination in this movie. The reviews in this thread downplaying the misandry are pretty much all what you would expect, recently made accounts with low post counts. In other words, leftist agents of disinformation.
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:11:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Arfcom has become the target of a lot of leftist disinformation. I have not seen this movie, but reviewers I trust, such as Critical Drinker, Ben Shapiro and Clownfish TV, have all done reviews detailing the extreme man-hating feminism and woke indoctrination in this movie. The reviews in this thread downplaying the misandry are pretty much all what you would expect, recently made accounts with low post counts. In other words, leftist agents of disinformation. Critical Drinker I can get behind, and his review is valid. Shapiro is a fucking clown though, how anyone can take that guy seriously is beyond me. He actually spent time in his review to find out how many women are on the Mattel board because the movie showed them all as men. The movie also showed Barbie somehow coming to life in the real world.....I think the whole idea of satire was kind of lost on him. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:12:28 PM EST
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:15:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Arfcom has become the target of a lot of leftist disinformation. I have not seen this movie, but reviewers I trust, such as Critical Drinker, Ben Shapiro and Clownfish TV, have all done reviews detailing the extreme man-hating feminism and woke indoctrination in this movie. The reviews in this thread downplaying the misandry are pretty much all what you would expect, recently made accounts with low post counts. In other words, leftist agents of disinformation. Muh echo chamber. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:17:17 PM EST
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Also, this is worth noting.
Margot is a fucking smokeshow in every outfit in this movie....that's a well put together woman. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:17:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nothing edited Poncho. Just more of your delusions and lies. Your friend is as delusional as you are. I also have confirmation in this thread that you're delusional, and a liar. You can't back up anything you say. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I am not picking through 9 pages of redacted user names to find your edited posts, it it is even the same thread and not a dupe. Another poster here has already confirmed my assertion. Nothing edited Poncho. Just more of your delusions and lies. Your friend is as delusional as you are. I also have confirmation in this thread that you're delusional, and a liar. You can't back up anything you say. You call me a liar yet you won’t take the easy way to dispute my point. Just come out and say that gay adoption is a mistake, as is the mainlining of homosexuality in society today. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:19:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You call me a liar yet you won’t take the easy way to dispute my point. Just come out and say that gay adoption is a mistake, as is the mainlining of homosexuality in society today. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I am not picking through 9 pages of redacted user names to find your edited posts, it it is even the same thread and not a dupe. Another poster here has already confirmed my assertion. Nothing edited Poncho. Just more of your delusions and lies. Your friend is as delusional as you are. I also have confirmation in this thread that you're delusional, and a liar. You can't back up anything you say. You call me a liar yet you won’t take the easy way to dispute my point. Just come out and say that gay adoption is a mistake, as is the mainlining of homosexuality in society today. Is it really a mistake vs a kid getting trapped in the system and almost guaranteed to be a fuck up as a result? Plenty of them out there, and if there's one more good home they can go to then it's better than the alternative. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:21:12 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Love Barbie movie. Love Ukraine. Love NYC. Hate Trump. CHECK!!!! There is quite an overlap, although I have to admit that there are some supporters of the current Ukraine mess that are on the right side of most other issues, just as there are some guys that favor DeSantis over Trump that are also solid dudes. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:23:34 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The rating isn't a rule to be enforced, it's a guideline. Anything R and below can be viewed by anyone as long as they are accompanied by a guardian. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Intended or not, your argument is one that is used to justify drag shows for minor children. If anyone ever says anything about any content at al, the "You're just a pearl clutcher" trolls come out in force. Than later when things are socially destroyed and screwed up, people who make this kind of argument lament not listening. Because clearly, telling people that a movie that's supposed to be about what is explicitly a young child's doll has stuff in it that young children won't know how to handle is "Pearl clutching." Perhaps the rating is the first fucking hint. What a nothingburger Since when have theaters enforced movie ratings? It's not hard to understand that this is going to draw in kids. The rating isn't a rule to be enforced, it's a guideline. Anything R and below can be viewed by anyone as long as they are accompanied by a guardian. Wait ... People don't know that?  I thought this was widespread knowledge. No snark, really did. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:24:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It is apparently a hard pg13. In "barbie land" they talk about how they don't have genitals (ken or barbie). Barbie winds up in the real world and ... YES ... they go there.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8PAh7jvChcYou're the second person in this thread that is apparently treating hollywood content as real everyday life. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:24:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Okay, we made it. I'll do my best to write out an unbiased opinion. Here's the short version. They had it, right in their hands, headed for a touchdown......and they fumbled it. The longer version. So naturally they had to check their inclusion boxes, fat and trans Barbie.....gross, but whatever, you know it going in. Two main themes are at play. Stereotyping, and absurdity, and both would be great if they actually stuck to them. The set pieces and costumes were great. The inclusion of obscure and discontinued Barbies was funny. Like Alan....he's just Alan. So Act 1 was hilarious (I thought). Sticking to the absurdity of the reality they are in was funny, and it very much reflected the vibe of the Dream House animated show. The Kens were written as goofballs, which is fine because they are literally accessories to Barbie, they've never held the spotlight in that world. Giving Ken an existential crisis made perfect sense and they really had room to run with it. Act 2, when they get to the real world, was plagued with thematic inconsistency. If you want to stick to absurdity, do it. If you want to portray stereotyping, then do that too, and make sure they are both obvious. Where they fucked up big time I think is that they portrayed stereotypical men, then immediately turned it into a serious issue within the movie, and took the absurdity right out. I think they were on the right track but then get very carried away and tried to turn it into a message, one that is no longer relevant. They steered out of that skid heading into the final part of the movie, but at that point they've already committed and they have to run with it. I thought it was great that Ken took "patriarchy" back to the Barbieland and used it to fuck things all up, I don't see an issue with that storyline as long as it wasn't as pointed, it felt extremely forced. There's a brief moment where Ken says "It doesn't feel good does it" and that is the dynamic they needed to play off, not all men being against all women all the time. The Barbies then learning how to manipulate the Kens also wasn't out of place, that's just classic women's comedy in a million other films. The closing of the movie, starting with the Ken War until the end was fine, they managed to get back on track a bit and stick to the tone the whole film should have been. Then you have the logical character growth and closure. The Mattel board being completely inept was pretty funny, it showed that they weren't afraid to poke fun at themselves, and fit with the absurd theme perfectly. Really I think they had everything they needed to make a great film, and they clogged up the middle of it by trying to make it into a message. I honestly think that at some point there will be a fan made edit that will be what this movie should have been right off the editing floor the first time. It's all there, they just didn't quite hit the mark. I wouldn't go as far as calling it a man hating film.....but I might label it Toxic Feminism. I think that you should still go in knowing exactly what it is, it's not a kid's movie, and the trailers never made it look like one. Like I predicted, there's a lot of tongue in cheek quips and adult focused inside jokes. The kids enjoyed it, because Barbie. My wife felt the same way I did, the beginning and end were good, the middle was all fucky and out of place. Thanks. Doesn’t sound like something I want to see even though I liked the trailers. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:30:01 PM EST
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NM, beat
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:30:04 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Muh echo chamber. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Arfcom has become the target of a lot of leftist disinformation. I have not seen this movie, but reviewers I trust, such as Critical Drinker, Ben Shapiro and Clownfish TV, have all done reviews detailing the extreme man-hating feminism and woke indoctrination in this movie. The reviews in this thread downplaying the misandry are pretty much all what you would expect, recently made accounts with low post counts. In other words, leftist agents of disinformation. Muh echo chamber. Ah, the entryism, it is strong with you. https://www.wordnik.com/words/entryism entryism noun A political tactic by which an organisation or state encourages its members or agents to infiltrate another organisation in an attempt to gain recruits or take over entirely. Weaponizing some facte of the group you're trying to get entry on to wedge your lousy behavior in and force its acceptance. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:35:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ah, the entryism, it is strong with you. https://www.wordnik.com/words/entryism entryism noun A political tactic by which an organisation or state encourages its members or agents to infiltrate another organisation in an attempt to gain recruits or take over entirely. Weaponizing some facte of the group you're trying to get entry on to wedge your lousy behavior in and force its acceptance. Not in the least, I'm just pointing out that immediately painting anyone who doesn't agree with your(speaking generally) assessment of a particular thing or topic as a "liberal plant due to your post count and join date" is beyond retarded behavior. I don't have an opinion on the movie but it's not likely to be as bad as some of the obviously triggered posters here are asserting. If there's one thing you can bank on, fringe elements on both sides love to REEEEEEEEEE and get outraged about whatever the thing is this week. But hey, you've made my point nicely. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:48:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's a movie based on the real life adventures of a children's toy. It has marketing for kids baked in. So what's your defense for Deadpool, Blade and million other R rated action movies that have whole toy lines and children's comic books. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:49:10 PM EST
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So she doesn’t get a pussy? I’m so confused, I thought that was the whole point of the movie.
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:50:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not in the least, I'm just pointing out that immediately painting anyone who doesn't agree with your(speaking generally) assessment of a particular thing or topic as a "liberal plant due to your post count and join date" is beyond retarded behavior. Quote HistoryQuoted: Not in the least, I'm just pointing out that immediately painting anyone who doesn't agree with your(speaking generally) assessment of a particular thing or topic as a "liberal plant due to your post count and join date" is beyond retarded behavior. Oh, you mean like posting "Muh echo chamber" in exactly the way you did?  Quoted: I don't have an opinion on the movie but it's not likely to be as bad as some of the obviously triggered posters here are asserting. If there's one thing you can bank on, fringe elements on both sides love to REEEEEEEEEE and get outraged about whatever the thing is this week. But hey, you've made my point nicely. You are being a fringe element in this thread and you are going REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE PEARL CLUTCHING ECHO CHAMBER CONSERVAGRIFT . Eta: without demonstrating (showing your math, all of it) on how that's a true conclusion. When you act like a duck, look like one, and sound like one, most people are going to treat you like one. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:52:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So she doesn’t get a pussy? I’m so confused, I thought that was the whole point of the movie. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that when the barbie doll comes into the real world she somehow is granted one. IDK... just a guess. See the previous poster's answer to my question about the gynecologist that I added to the OP in the quote. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:54:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait ... People don't know that? I thought this was widespread knowledge. No snark, really did. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Intended or not, your argument is one that is used to justify drag shows for minor children. If anyone ever says anything about any content at al, the "You're just a pearl clutcher" trolls come out in force. Than later when things are socially destroyed and screwed up, people who make this kind of argument lament not listening. Because clearly, telling people that a movie that's supposed to be about what is explicitly a young child's doll has stuff in it that young children won't know how to handle is "Pearl clutching." Perhaps the rating is the first fucking hint. What a nothingburger Since when have theaters enforced movie ratings? It's not hard to understand that this is going to draw in kids. The rating isn't a rule to be enforced, it's a guideline. Anything R and below can be viewed by anyone as long as they are accompanied by a guardian. Wait ... People don't know that? I thought this was widespread knowledge. No snark, really did. Why didn't they make this into an uncontroversial G rated movie? Barbie was launched on March 9, 1959. She started out as a G. When did she become a PG-13 skank? Is R next? |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:54:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's what YOU are doing. Now who's clutching pearls. Any instance that says "Hey, pay attention" is automatically "well this can ONLY be that so ..." ETA: just jump up and down and say it must be an instance of what you say it is. Never demonstrate that it is or show your math. I mean, especially if it really IS that. Because that would just make your job too easy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: We're going to a 2pm showtime today. I'll report back, hopefully our minds don't get poisoned. Would appreciate it. The engineered outrage gets old. Heck, my wife dragged me to see the new Indiana Jones movie. I'd let GD and Youtube completely distort my understanding of it, and I like to think I'm more resistant to the propaganda. Nope. GD cracks me up, because they preach good parenting....but then very loudly proclaim that they will shield their kids from anything they deem offensive, even if they haven't already screened it. Guess what, your kid is going to grow up in a few years and be an adult that has to function on their own and be exposed to all kinds of crazy shit, best to help them on the journey and answer questions along the way so they have some kind of gauge for what is and isn't acceptable and prevent them from becoming so isolated in their world view that they avoid anything that might potentially be uncomfortable and form an opinion without any exposure to it. I'm not terribly concerned about a PG13 movie, based on an IP of a children's toy, starring two of the best actors in the business. I took the kids to a 60th birthday party last night for a family friend, and half the couples over 50 there were the result of divorce, breakup and infidelity.....I would gather that seeing that as normal behavior is probably more damaging to them than a movie we go to watch together. It seems every other day there's a new Youtube channel or other media outlet that has discovered how lucrative the Conservative Outrage sphere can be, and many are not limited in the least by any sense of or desire for accuracy. Then, if one video or what not starts getting hits by spreading outrage, the others join in with copy-cat alternatives hoping to ride the wave. Just like there are people who have discovered how lucrative the "dur hurp, you're just outraged because you're chldish" sphere... I mean, if that's the game we're playing. I must have missed those people That's what YOU are doing. Quoted: I haven't missed the lesson of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. This movie may very well be then most subversive piece of child grooming propaganda ever. I haven't seen it. Have no plans to. But if you don't realize how absolutely non -credible so many the voices out there have made themselves, I can't help you. Now who's clutching pearls. Any instance that says "Hey, pay attention" is automatically "well this can ONLY be that so ..." ETA: just jump up and down and say it must be an instance of what you say it is. Never demonstrate that it is or show your math. I mean, especially if it really IS that. Because that would just make your job too easy. If you can't differentiate my posts from people literally monetizing your outrage for profit, I don't see any point in even trying to address the rest of your nonsense. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:54:45 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why didn't they make this into an uncontroversial G rated movie? Barbie was launched on March 9, 1959. She started out as a G. When did she become a PG-13 skank? Is R next? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Intended or not, your argument is one that is used to justify drag shows for minor children. If anyone ever says anything about any content at al, the "You're just a pearl clutcher" trolls come out in force. Than later when things are socially destroyed and screwed up, people who make this kind of argument lament not listening. Because clearly, telling people that a movie that's supposed to be about what is explicitly a young child's doll has stuff in it that young children won't know how to handle is "Pearl clutching." Perhaps the rating is the first fucking hint. What a nothingburger Since when have theaters enforced movie ratings? It's not hard to understand that this is going to draw in kids. The rating isn't a rule to be enforced, it's a guideline. Anything R and below can be viewed by anyone as long as they are accompanied by a guardian. Wait ... People don't know that? I thought this was widespread knowledge. No snark, really did. Why didn't they make this into an uncontroversial G rated movie? Barbie was launched on March 9, 1959. She started out as a G. When did she become a PG-13 skank? Is R next? We can only hope. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:56:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We can only hope. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Intended or not, your argument is one that is used to justify drag shows for minor children. If anyone ever says anything about any content at al, the "You're just a pearl clutcher" trolls come out in force. Than later when things are socially destroyed and screwed up, people who make this kind of argument lament not listening. Because clearly, telling people that a movie that's supposed to be about what is explicitly a young child's doll has stuff in it that young children won't know how to handle is "Pearl clutching." Perhaps the rating is the first fucking hint. What a nothingburger Since when have theaters enforced movie ratings? It's not hard to understand that this is going to draw in kids. The rating isn't a rule to be enforced, it's a guideline. Anything R and below can be viewed by anyone as long as they are accompanied by a guardian. Wait ... People don't know that? I thought this was widespread knowledge. No snark, really did. Why didn't they make this into an uncontroversial G rated movie? Barbie was launched on March 9, 1959. She started out as a G. When did she become a PG-13 skank? Is R next? We can only hope. Fucking pervert! 
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:56:29 PM EST
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God doesn't give girls genitals the doctor does
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:56:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why didn't they make this into an uncontroversial G rated movie? Barbie was launched on March 9, 1959. She started out as a G. When did she become a PG-13 skank? Is R next? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Intended or not, your argument is one that is used to justify drag shows for minor children. If anyone ever says anything about any content at al, the "You're just a pearl clutcher" trolls come out in force. Than later when things are socially destroyed and screwed up, people who make this kind of argument lament not listening. Because clearly, telling people that a movie that's supposed to be about what is explicitly a young child's doll has stuff in it that young children won't know how to handle is "Pearl clutching." Perhaps the rating is the first fucking hint. What a nothingburger Since when have theaters enforced movie ratings? It's not hard to understand that this is going to draw in kids. The rating isn't a rule to be enforced, it's a guideline. Anything R and below can be viewed by anyone as long as they are accompanied by a guardian. Wait ... People don't know that? I thought this was widespread knowledge. No snark, really did. Why didn't they make this into an uncontroversial G rated movie? Barbie was launched on March 9, 1959. She started out as a G. When did she become a PG-13 skank? Is R next? Hollywood knows that good G movies are where the money is, but for some reason I can't fathom, they seem to intentionally keep trying to make R movies and pg-13 movies that are virtually R rated. They're leaving dumpstertruck fulls of cash on the table. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 6:58:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh, you mean like posting "Muh echo chamber" in exactly the way you did? woosh When you act like a duck, look like one, and sound like one, most people are going to treat you like one. LMAO. You actually believe I care
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Posted: 7/22/2023 7:00:14 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you can't differentiate my posts from people literally monetizing your outrage for profit, I don't see any point in even trying to address the rest of your nonsense. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: We're going to a 2pm showtime today. I'll report back, hopefully our minds don't get poisoned. Would appreciate it. The engineered outrage gets old. Heck, my wife dragged me to see the new Indiana Jones movie. I'd let GD and Youtube completely distort my understanding of it, and I like to think I'm more resistant to the propaganda. Nope. GD cracks me up, because they preach good parenting....but then very loudly proclaim that they will shield their kids from anything they deem offensive, even if they haven't already screened it. Guess what, your kid is going to grow up in a few years and be an adult that has to function on their own and be exposed to all kinds of crazy shit, best to help them on the journey and answer questions along the way so they have some kind of gauge for what is and isn't acceptable and prevent them from becoming so isolated in their world view that they avoid anything that might potentially be uncomfortable and form an opinion without any exposure to it. I'm not terribly concerned about a PG13 movie, based on an IP of a children's toy, starring two of the best actors in the business. I took the kids to a 60th birthday party last night for a family friend, and half the couples over 50 there were the result of divorce, breakup and infidelity.....I would gather that seeing that as normal behavior is probably more damaging to them than a movie we go to watch together. It seems every other day there's a new Youtube channel or other media outlet that has discovered how lucrative the Conservative Outrage sphere can be, and many are not limited in the least by any sense of or desire for accuracy. Then, if one video or what not starts getting hits by spreading outrage, the others join in with copy-cat alternatives hoping to ride the wave. Just like there are people who have discovered how lucrative the "dur hurp, you're just outraged because you're chldish" sphere... I mean, if that's the game we're playing. I must have missed those people That's what YOU are doing. Quoted: I haven't missed the lesson of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. This movie may very well be then most subversive piece of child grooming propaganda ever. I haven't seen it. Have no plans to. But if you don't realize how absolutely non -credible so many the voices out there have made themselves, I can't help you. Now who's clutching pearls. Any instance that says "Hey, pay attention" is automatically "well this can ONLY be that so ..." ETA: just jump up and down and say it must be an instance of what you say it is. Never demonstrate that it is or show your math. I mean, especially if it really IS that. Because that would just make your job too easy. If you can't differentiate my posts from people literally monetizing your outrage for profit, I don't see any point in even trying to address the rest of your nonsense. You are making an obvious category error. You were calling out people in general for unthinkingly assuming something is what it isn't. You unthinkingly (I hope so, you don't strike me as dumb) assumed the thread couldn't be anything *but* reactionary pearl clutching. So you have been pearl-clutching at the idea that this thread is just reactionary. Doing what you are accusing others of. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 7:01:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's Barbie, a toy for little girls. Mattel has an entire line based on the movie. GI Joe wasn't marketed for kids either right? Sighhhhhhhhh Robocop Terminator Jurassic Park Deadpool Blade Watchmen Aliens Batman (most of them) Etc. Tons of movies with HUGE merchandise selections for kids, games, comics, etc that are nothing but gore, violence and horror. Even your GI Joe example, the movies are full of violence and you'd be a turd to take your 6 year old to see it. Did we have rage threads about Transformers and Mark Wahlberg chugging Budlight while his daughters boyfriend explains statutory rape laws? Watch a Barbie preview and you'll realize it's not for 5 year olds. It's met for adults as the whole premise is the transition from childhood innocence to adulthood. Combined with a heavy emphasis to set design and costume that pays tribute to 50 years or barbie products. Kinda need to be over 13 to appreciate any of that. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 7:04:29 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You are making an obvious category error. You were calling out people in general for unthinkingly assuming something is what it isn't. You unthinkingly (I hope so, you don't strike me as dumb) assumed the thread couldn't be anything *but* reactionary pearl clutching. So you have been pearl-clutching at the idea that this thread is just reactionary. Doing what you are accusing others of. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: We're going to a 2pm showtime today. I'll report back, hopefully our minds don't get poisoned. Would appreciate it. The engineered outrage gets old. Heck, my wife dragged me to see the new Indiana Jones movie. I'd let GD and Youtube completely distort my understanding of it, and I like to think I'm more resistant to the propaganda. Nope. GD cracks me up, because they preach good parenting....but then very loudly proclaim that they will shield their kids from anything they deem offensive, even if they haven't already screened it. Guess what, your kid is going to grow up in a few years and be an adult that has to function on their own and be exposed to all kinds of crazy shit, best to help them on the journey and answer questions along the way so they have some kind of gauge for what is and isn't acceptable and prevent them from becoming so isolated in their world view that they avoid anything that might potentially be uncomfortable and form an opinion without any exposure to it. I'm not terribly concerned about a PG13 movie, based on an IP of a children's toy, starring two of the best actors in the business. I took the kids to a 60th birthday party last night for a family friend, and half the couples over 50 there were the result of divorce, breakup and infidelity.....I would gather that seeing that as normal behavior is probably more damaging to them than a movie we go to watch together. It seems every other day there's a new Youtube channel or other media outlet that has discovered how lucrative the Conservative Outrage sphere can be, and many are not limited in the least by any sense of or desire for accuracy. Then, if one video or what not starts getting hits by spreading outrage, the others join in with copy-cat alternatives hoping to ride the wave. Just like there are people who have discovered how lucrative the "dur hurp, you're just outraged because you're chldish" sphere... I mean, if that's the game we're playing. I must have missed those people That's what YOU are doing. Quoted: I haven't missed the lesson of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. This movie may very well be then most subversive piece of child grooming propaganda ever. I haven't seen it. Have no plans to. But if you don't realize how absolutely non -credible so many the voices out there have made themselves, I can't help you. Now who's clutching pearls. Any instance that says "Hey, pay attention" is automatically "well this can ONLY be that so ..." ETA: just jump up and down and say it must be an instance of what you say it is. Never demonstrate that it is or show your math. I mean, especially if it really IS that. Because that would just make your job too easy. If you can't differentiate my posts from people literally monetizing your outrage for profit, I don't see any point in even trying to address the rest of your nonsense. You are making an obvious category error. You were calling out people in general for unthinkingly assuming something is what it isn't. You unthinkingly (I hope so, you don't strike me as dumb) assumed the thread couldn't be anything *but* reactionary pearl clutching. So you have been pearl-clutching at the idea that this thread is just reactionary. Doing what you are accusing others of. What the fuck are you in about? I haven't seen the movie. Neither have you. But sheesh, you are literally arguing against people who have seen the movie you admit you have not seen. Your views are entirely third person, based on inout from people who literally make money off of your outrage and repeated viewing. And you are telling them, those other posters who are offering their own direct observations, that they are the ones being easily manipulated. Wow. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 7:05:19 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: woosh Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Oh, you mean like posting "Muh echo chamber" in exactly the way you did? woosh Here's your engraved invitation to prove (show your math - quote the text I posted and show how it means what you're saying it does) that this is a case of me not getting it. IF you are capable of this and you do it, I'll even say you were right. All you have to do is use what the text I posted means and not read any of your assumptions into it. Quoted: Quoted: When you act like a duck, look like one, and sound like one, most people are going to treat you like one. I LMAO. You actually believe I care *looks at his post* Funny. I didn't say you cared. You seem to live in your own imaginary world. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 7:06:02 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: GD doing a purse fight about the Barbie movie.... No wonder people don't pay for memberships Yup, same dudes cry about the commies virtual signalling their faux outrage on Facebook and Twitter are doing the exact same thing here. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 7:11:59 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I ams shocked how many on arfcom are this guy https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327887/20230722_190807_jpg-2894862.JPG Nah, but we are reasonable adults. This is an adult move, for adults, and while it glosses over the importance that men had in/on history, it delivers the point it intended to. It's hard to be a chick, it's very different from being a dude. Outside of that, it's pretty funny... nothing more, nothing less. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 7:12:06 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There is quite an overlap, although I have to admit that there are some supporters of the current Ukraine mess that are on the right side of most other issues, just as there are some guys that favor DeSantis over Trump that are also solid dudes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Love Barbie movie. Love Ukraine. Love NYC. Hate Trump. CHECK!!!! There is quite an overlap, although I have to admit that there are some supporters of the current Ukraine mess that are on the right side of most other issues, just as there are some guys that favor DeSantis over Trump that are also solid dudes. The AI I am building can sniff out leftists, paid influencers, government informers/shills and groomers with a 90% confidence level using these 4 parameters. Its uncanny. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 7:13:39 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What the fuck are you in about? I haven't seen the movie. Neither have you. But sheesh, you are literally arguing against people who have seen the movie you admit you have not seen. Your views are entirely third person, based on inout from people who literally make money off of your outrage and repeated viewing. And you are telling them, those other posters who are offering their own direct observations, that they are the ones being easily manipulated. Wow. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: We're going to a 2pm showtime today. I'll report back, hopefully our minds don't get poisoned. Would appreciate it. The engineered outrage gets old. Heck, my wife dragged me to see the new Indiana Jones movie. I'd let GD and Youtube completely distort my understanding of it, and I like to think I'm more resistant to the propaganda. Nope. GD cracks me up, because they preach good parenting....but then very loudly proclaim that they will shield their kids from anything they deem offensive, even if they haven't already screened it. Guess what, your kid is going to grow up in a few years and be an adult that has to function on their own and be exposed to all kinds of crazy shit, best to help them on the journey and answer questions along the way so they have some kind of gauge for what is and isn't acceptable and prevent them from becoming so isolated in their world view that they avoid anything that might potentially be uncomfortable and form an opinion without any exposure to it. I'm not terribly concerned about a PG13 movie, based on an IP of a children's toy, starring two of the best actors in the business. I took the kids to a 60th birthday party last night for a family friend, and half the couples over 50 there were the result of divorce, breakup and infidelity.....I would gather that seeing that as normal behavior is probably more damaging to them than a movie we go to watch together. It seems every other day there's a new Youtube channel or other media outlet that has discovered how lucrative the Conservative Outrage sphere can be, and many are not limited in the least by any sense of or desire for accuracy. Then, if one video or what not starts getting hits by spreading outrage, the others join in with copy-cat alternatives hoping to ride the wave. Just like there are people who have discovered how lucrative the "dur hurp, you're just outraged because you're chldish" sphere... I mean, if that's the game we're playing. I must have missed those people That's what YOU are doing. Quoted: I haven't missed the lesson of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. This movie may very well be then most subversive piece of child grooming propaganda ever. I haven't seen it. Have no plans to. But if you don't realize how absolutely non -credible so many the voices out there have made themselves, I can't help you. Now who's clutching pearls. Any instance that says "Hey, pay attention" is automatically "well this can ONLY be that so ..." ETA: just jump up and down and say it must be an instance of what you say it is. Never demonstrate that it is or show your math. I mean, especially if it really IS that. Because that would just make your job too easy. If you can't differentiate my posts from people literally monetizing your outrage for profit, I don't see any point in even trying to address the rest of your nonsense. You are making an obvious category error. You were calling out people in general for unthinkingly assuming something is what it isn't. You unthinkingly (I hope so, you don't strike me as dumb) assumed the thread couldn't be anything *but* reactionary pearl clutching. So you have been pearl-clutching at the idea that this thread is just reactionary. Doing what you are accusing others of. What the fuck are you in about? I haven't seen the movie. Neither have you. But sheesh, you are literally arguing against people who have seen the movie you admit you have not seen. Your views are entirely third person, based on inout from people who literally make money off of your outrage and repeated viewing. And you are telling them, those other posters who are offering their own direct observations, that they are the ones being easily manipulated. Wow. That is one serious diversion to run away from what you said. First you accuse us on the thread of pearl clutching and/or being suckers for the conservative outrage scam machine, and point up how people shouldn't be taken in ... I point out how you're assuming that's what's going in the thread, and that you're clutching your pearls about what's goign on in here ... And you try and pull a J-turn away from that when it's been made obvious and now are trying for "but you're arguing with people who have seen the move." Well, yes, I did disagree with the one guy who posted taht he hadn't been to the movie but his wife had and told him (stuff that wasn't true it turns out) and than showed my math on it. (Girthrockwell, right here) Oh ... and btw. Scroll up. Look at the thread title that should have been right in front of your face. Than maybe at the OP. Page search for ETA. Look for the strikethrough. At this point I wonder why you are even still in this thread. Do you have any motivation to be here besides picking a fight? |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 7:13:55 PM EST
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: God doesn't give girls genitals the doctor does Paying attention to the plot, dialogue, or actual details of the movie makes you "Triggered" in the eyes of the "LEAVEE HOLLYWOOD ALOOONE" brainlet trust bro.  The recent join date low post count hollywood simps will be along shortly to attempt to guilt you into cultural irrelevance. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 7:15:21 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The AI I am building can sniff out leftists, paid influencers, government informers/shills and groomers with a 90% confidence level using these 4 parameters. Its uncanny. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Love Barbie movie. Love Ukraine. Love NYC. Hate Trump. CHECK!!!! There is quite an overlap, although I have to admit that there are some supporters of the current Ukraine mess that are on the right side of most other issues, just as there are some guys that favor DeSantis over Trump that are also solid dudes. The AI I am building can sniff out leftists, paid influencers, government informers/shills and groomers with a 90% confidence level using these 4 parameters. Its uncanny. Human mental heuristics can provide a heck of an indicator too. Especially when you start accounting for the fact that you should be careful because you could be wrong. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 7:15:42 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So she doesn’t get a pussy? I’m so confused, I thought that was the whole point of the movie. Spoiler alert: Maybe? |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 7:16:01 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nah, but we are reasonable adults. This is an adult move, for adults, and while it glosses over the importance that men had in/on history, it delivers the point it intended to. It's hard to be a chick, it's very different from being a dude. Outside of that, it's pretty funny... nothing more, nothing less. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I ams shocked how many on arfcom are this guy https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327887/20230722_190807_jpg-2894862.JPG Nah, but we are reasonable adults. This is an adult move, for adults, and while it glosses over the importance that men had in/on history, it delivers the point it intended to. It's hard to be a chick, it's very different from being a dude. Outside of that, it's pretty funny... nothing more, nothing less.  Attached File
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Posted: 7/22/2023 7:18:13 PM EST
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What was that Netflix pedo groomer movie that got everyone upset? "Cuties?"
And how about the pervs at Balenciaga with their child porn advertising campaign. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 7:19:09 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I ams shocked how many on arfcom are this guy https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327887/20230722_190807_jpg-2894862.JPG Nah, but we are reasonable adults. This is an adult move, for adults, and while it glosses over the importance that men had in/on history, it delivers the point it intended to. It's hard to be a chick, it's very different from being a dude. Outside of that, it's pretty funny... nothing more, nothing less. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327887/20230722_201417_jpg-2894947.JPG  That's amazing Nooo nooooo "BARBIE" was clearly some Hard-R rated Tarantino movie and everyone knew that going in! Which is why all the previews shown for the movies before it are kids movies. That's how hollywood works. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 7:27:17 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted:  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I ams shocked how many on arfcom are this guy https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327887/20230722_190807_jpg-2894862.JPG Nah, but we are reasonable adults. This is an adult move, for adults, and while it glosses over the importance that men had in/on history, it delivers the point it intended to. It's hard to be a chick, it's very different from being a dude. Outside of that, it's pretty funny... nothing more, nothing less. I can't wait to watch the "Wow how are kids so messed up today haha? Anyway, yeah I took my kids to see MarySue 3:Return of the Slam Poets" brigade defend this piece of shit when it comes out:  "Mirror mirror on the wall, who's the fairest of them all?" - Says Gal Gadot [mirror] "well, um, akshully, heh, um, you know, in this universe, somehow, not only is it not you, it's this girl: " That's probably going to be one of the funniest moments in cinema history Yes, that's an unflattering photo of the lady, it's still just so implausible |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 7:27:52 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's amazing Nooo nooooo "BARBIE" was clearly some Hard-R rated Tarantino movie and everyone knew that going in! Which is why all the previews shown for the movies before it are kids movies. That's how hollywood works. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I ams shocked how many on arfcom are this guy https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327887/20230722_190807_jpg-2894862.JPG Nah, but we are reasonable adults. This is an adult move, for adults, and while it glosses over the importance that men had in/on history, it delivers the point it intended to. It's hard to be a chick, it's very different from being a dude. Outside of that, it's pretty funny... nothing more, nothing less. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327887/20230722_201417_jpg-2894947.JPG That's amazing Nooo nooooo "BARBIE" was clearly some Hard-R rated Tarantino movie and everyone knew that going in! Which is why all the previews shown for the movies before it are kids movies. That's how hollywood works. Pepperidge farms remembers another bait and switch - nick cage / lord of war, trailers had it as a fun & funny action popcorn flick, go watch badguys get blasted and turn your brains off flick. Movie turns out to be preachy, boring, not fun, not funny and nothing else the trailer and all the TV adverts showed it as. Hollywood's been at this sort of thing for a long time. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 7:29:32 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Movie was never marketed for kids... So no idea what you are crying about. Lol. It’s literally the name of a little girl’s toy. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 7:39:01 PM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pepperidge farms remembers another bait and switch - nick cage / lord of war, trailers had it as a fun & funny action popcorn flick, go watch badguys get blasted and turn your brains off flick. Movie turns out to be preachy, boring, not fun, not funny and nothing else the trailer and all the TV adverts showed it as. Hollywood's been at this sort of thing for a long time. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I ams shocked how many on arfcom are this guy https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327887/20230722_190807_jpg-2894862.JPG Nah, but we are reasonable adults. This is an adult move, for adults, and while it glosses over the importance that men had in/on history, it delivers the point it intended to. It's hard to be a chick, it's very different from being a dude. Outside of that, it's pretty funny... nothing more, nothing less. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327887/20230722_201417_jpg-2894947.JPG That's amazing Nooo nooooo "BARBIE" was clearly some Hard-R rated Tarantino movie and everyone knew that going in! Which is why all the previews shown for the movies before it are kids movies. That's how hollywood works. Pepperidge farms remembers another bait and switch - nick cage / lord of war, trailers had it as a fun & funny action popcorn flick, go watch badguys get blasted and turn your brains off flick. Movie turns out to be preachy, boring, not fun, not funny and nothing else the trailer and all the TV adverts showed it as. Hollywood's been at this sort of thing for a long time. Sir hollywood is always honest and The RatingTM is pretty much like the periodic table, a hard science, and parents knew going in "Hey this shit reinforces the idea that your kid's purplehaired art teacher tried last year - that you pick your gender in the real world. Also, tons of political messages so obvious only a GDer could miss it." |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 7:39:04 PM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I remember going to see Ted in the theater and people brought their young children to see it. My wife and I saw SE7EN in the theater and a woman and her, maybe, 7 year-old were sitting next to us. After the movie was over and we were walking out my wife confronted the woman about bringing a girl that young to that movie (admittedly, a Karen moment). The woman replied, "She's mature." |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 7:42:04 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That is one serious diversion to run away from what you said. First you accuse us on the thread of pearl clutching and/or being suckers for the conservative outrage scam machine, and point up how people shouldn't be taken in ... I point out how you're assuming that's what's going in the thread, and that you're clutching your pearls about what's goign on in here ... And you try and pull a J-turn away from that when it's been made obvious and now are trying for "but you're arguing with people who have seen the move." Well, yes, I did disagree with the one guy who posted taht he hadn't been to the movie but his wife had and told him (stuff that wasn't true it turns out) and than showed my math on it. (Girthrockwell, right here) Oh ... and btw. Scroll up. Look at the thread title that should have been right in front of your face. Than maybe at the OP. Page search for ETA. Look for the strikethrough. At this point I wonder why you are even still in this thread. Do you have any motivation to be here besides picking a fight? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: We're going to a 2pm showtime today. I'll report back, hopefully our minds don't get poisoned. Would appreciate it. The engineered outrage gets old. Heck, my wife dragged me to see the new Indiana Jones movie. I'd let GD and Youtube completely distort my understanding of it, and I like to think I'm more resistant to the propaganda. Nope. GD cracks me up, because they preach good parenting....but then very loudly proclaim that they will shield their kids from anything they deem offensive, even if they haven't already screened it. Guess what, your kid is going to grow up in a few years and be an adult that has to function on their own and be exposed to all kinds of crazy shit, best to help them on the journey and answer questions along the way so they have some kind of gauge for what is and isn't acceptable and prevent them from becoming so isolated in their world view that they avoid anything that might potentially be uncomfortable and form an opinion without any exposure to it. I'm not terribly concerned about a PG13 movie, based on an IP of a children's toy, starring two of the best actors in the business. I took the kids to a 60th birthday party last night for a family friend, and half the couples over 50 there were the result of divorce, breakup and infidelity.....I would gather that seeing that as normal behavior is probably more damaging to them than a movie we go to watch together. It seems every other day there's a new Youtube channel or other media outlet that has discovered how lucrative the Conservative Outrage sphere can be, and many are not limited in the least by any sense of or desire for accuracy. Then, if one video or what not starts getting hits by spreading outrage, the others join in with copy-cat alternatives hoping to ride the wave. Just like there are people who have discovered how lucrative the "dur hurp, you're just outraged because you're chldish" sphere... I mean, if that's the game we're playing. I must have missed those people That's what YOU are doing. Quoted: I haven't missed the lesson of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. This movie may very well be then most subversive piece of child grooming propaganda ever. I haven't seen it. Have no plans to. But if you don't realize how absolutely non -credible so many the voices out there have made themselves, I can't help you. Now who's clutching pearls. Any instance that says "Hey, pay attention" is automatically "well this can ONLY be that so ..." ETA: just jump up and down and say it must be an instance of what you say it is. Never demonstrate that it is or show your math. I mean, especially if it really IS that. Because that would just make your job too easy. If you can't differentiate my posts from people literally monetizing your outrage for profit, I don't see any point in even trying to address the rest of your nonsense. You are making an obvious category error. You were calling out people in general for unthinkingly assuming something is what it isn't. You unthinkingly (I hope so, you don't strike me as dumb) assumed the thread couldn't be anything *but* reactionary pearl clutching. So you have been pearl-clutching at the idea that this thread is just reactionary. Doing what you are accusing others of. What the fuck are you in about? I haven't seen the movie. Neither have you. But sheesh, you are literally arguing against people who have seen the movie you admit you have not seen. Your views are entirely third person, based on inout from people who literally make money off of your outrage and repeated viewing. And you are telling them, those other posters who are offering their own direct observations, that they are the ones being easily manipulated. Wow. That is one serious diversion to run away from what you said. First you accuse us on the thread of pearl clutching and/or being suckers for the conservative outrage scam machine, and point up how people shouldn't be taken in ... I point out how you're assuming that's what's going in the thread, and that you're clutching your pearls about what's goign on in here ... And you try and pull a J-turn away from that when it's been made obvious and now are trying for "but you're arguing with people who have seen the move." Well, yes, I did disagree with the one guy who posted taht he hadn't been to the movie but his wife had and told him (stuff that wasn't true it turns out) and than showed my math on it. (Girthrockwell, right here) Oh ... and btw. Scroll up. Look at the thread title that should have been right in front of your face. Than maybe at the OP. Page search for ETA. Look for the strikethrough. At this point I wonder why you are even still in this thread. Do you have any motivation to be here besides picking a fight? That last bit is the first thing you've posted in a while that made a lick of sense. |
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Posted: 7/22/2023 7:42:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Movie was never marketed for kids... So no idea what you are crying about. It's fucking Barbie-it doesn't need to be marketed for kids. It's been marketed for kids for what, 65 years now? The title is all the marketing for kids it needs. |
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