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Quoted: It's currently illegal for any Federal agency to keep a list of the firearms a person has. Biden would have to go through Congress for that View Quote It is currently against the constitution to infringe on the right to have and bear arms, in other words it is illegal to infringe on said right but the government is doing it. Do you think and illegal list is not beyond their lust for power? |
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Funny how many here bury their hand in the sand and say nope it is not going to happen...it can't happen.
Yet would gladly send in $200 for a "Feature" such as a suppressor or a SBR. If you think this will not pass you are fooling yourself. We operate on a common law system, and precedent has already been established that a "feature" of a firearm can be put on the list. "High Capacity" and "Semi Auto" are just a "feature". I can hear the SCOUS opinion now..."The USG is not infringing on the right of the people to keep and bear arms. The government is merely adding additional features to the list of items currently covered under the NFA which has a well established precedence and acceptance among the firearm community." |
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So if a person was to decline to participate in this scheme, would the penalties for non compliance be equal to the penalties for drilling a third hole? Because at that point some people might be inclined to say fuck it, in for a penny, in for a pound.
Not me of course, I think guns are icky and gross. |
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Quoted: Any President that tries that and his party would lose big in 2022 & 24. View Quote Not any more Our elections are as legitimate as ones in best korea or saddams iraq, or cuba now What American lack is a leader (or leaders) who will or can be the next George Washington circa 1775 to 1782, and lead a ragtag militia and small group of more professional volunteers |
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Such an action would require a law passed by the Congress.
If they don't take the Senate and then either have a filibuster proof majority or abolish the filibuster it will not pass. If it does pass into law it would have to be upheld by the Supreme Court, which it wouldn't be unless they pack the Court. That is pie in the sky #$%* for them and if they come right out of the gate with that they're going to use up a lot of political capital in a highly divisive fight during a highly partisan environment going into a midterm election that will be very difficult for them already. What you're looking at is the Biden Administration asking for the world in the hopes that the Republicans who have no backbone will compromise and be able to sell their constituents on accepting some "common sense" gun control measures. Pretty classic negotiation strategy, but it's not going to work. We can hold out until 2022 at which point we'll have the Senate for certain and most likely the House of Representatives back, which at that point there is just no chance an AWB of that like gets out of committee. |
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Quoted: So if a person was to decline to participate in this scheme, would the penalties for non compliance be equal to the penalties for drilling a third hole? Because at that point some people might be inclined to say fuck it, in for a penny, in for a pound. Not me of course, I think guns are icky and gross. View Quote Same logic if I'm gonna get the same felony for an arm brace on my pistol... |
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I don't have a problem with his plan,,,as long as he puts the Post Office in charge .
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Quoted: Sorry, but my ancestors taught me all I need to know about what happens when we give up our guns to them. Fuck that. View Quote |
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Quoted: Not if the elections are rigged AGAIN. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Any President that tries that and his party would lose big in 2022 & 24. Not if the elections are rigged AGAIN. And if they aren’t, do you really think a Republican president would repeal such an EO? |
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We are not England.
We are not Australia. We are not New Zealand. We are not Canada. What we are is fed up with this motherfucking shit, and fed up people aren't inclined to nicely go along to get along. |
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Quoted: Liberaltarians and Never_Trumpers... bigger retards than Antifa and BLM could dream of being. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: But duh bumpstocks Well done never trumpers! Liberaltarians and Never_Trumpers... bigger retards than Antifa and BLM could dream of being. but but but they made a principled stand against statism. how is this possible. and orangeman tweeted mean things. |
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After the explosion of black rifles, accessories, gaming and ccw before and since 2004, combined with radical leftists threatening, attacking, looting and burning down and terrorizing neighborhoods, something tells me that it would be a fools errand for them to attempt to any large scale gun control efforts on the federal level. If they do, along with the other crazy shit they talk about such as adding supreme court justices to rubber stamp their agenda, it wont be time to bury or turn in your guns.
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Quoted: Allow me to counter with the following. I keep my guns and do nothing and in return I’ll mail the government one hobo’s dick cheese. Fuck off I don’t comply with Unconstitutional Nazi Bullshit. Come kill me and take them. That’s what it’s gonna take. View Quote Reading through this thread until.. Attached File Hahaha. Bravo, sir. |
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Sons of Liberty |
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I have a lot of doubts about how they would be able to implement this if it was able to be passed into law and if it survived the many court challenges it would generate. The ATF struggles to process the number of NFA forms it's getting now and there's no way they could ramp up to process millions of stamps even if they had a few years. How are they going to find a feasible way to stamp magazines with no serial numbers as well? They'd also have to deal with mass non compliance in the form of civil disobedience and red states declaring themselves 2A sanctuaries too.
I hate the idea of FJB's whole gun control plan but it seems like they are really swinging for the fences on this and hoping beyond hope, these people are professional liars and they lie to their own constituents and to the rest of us too.... |
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AWW HELL NAW |
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Sounds like I might be able get something for those old crappy barrels and uppers after all. The island of misfit parts may find a home after all.
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Quoted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ClCMR58LV8 View Quote TOMBSTONE: I don't think I'll let you arrest us today, Behan. |
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How is this news to anybody? It was on his fucking website for the whole campaign! The apathy on the right is infuriating.
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Quoted: I don't know. I've been mulling over the possibility that ATF might do a power grab. They are getting ready to declare AR-style pistols AOW's without Congress, why not just declare semi-autos NFA items? I'm not a legal expert but I kind of don't see what's there to stop them if they do what they want without regard to the law. View Quote Exactly. Bumpstocks were “made” into machine guns and they can be put on semi autos so, semi autos are just constructive possession, ergo, they’re machine guns. Pretty simple logic.../s/ |
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Quoted: How is this news to anybody? It was on his fucking website for the whole campaign! The apathy on the right is infuriating. View Quote Again, not news to me (the OP of this thread). It is, however, the first time I've heard a mainstream "news" source report on it. This is signalling that Biden plans to go forward with his radical plan and it was more than a campaign promise. |
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Soon, the loony democrats will learn the 2nd Amendment isn't about duck hunting!
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Quoted: Come get them. I will be nice. Promise View Quote They are not going to come get em. You will be the last owner of the stuff you have. No legal transfer to anybody. That is the plan, not confiscation. The next generation will be unarmed against a tyrannical govt. And a whole shit ton of gun owners are going to go along with it as long as they get to keep what they have. |
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Quoted: i am in favor of a third position View Quote Quoted: If I'm gonna register them I'm drilling that 3rd hole right after. View Quote theres gonna be a run on drill presses at harbor frieght |
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Quoted: Soon, the loony democrats will learn the 2nd Amendment isn't about duck hunting! View Quote Attached File |
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View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Soon, the loony democrats will learn the 2nd Amendment isn't about duck hunting! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/271112/waynelapierrenamebeing_called_jpg-1698270.JPG That shitstain is self pollinating at the thought of a Bidet presidency. |
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