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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:34:26 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:35:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry, but my ancestors taught me all I need to know about what happens when we give up our guns to them. Fuck that. True.......nor should you or anyone else give them up again |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:36:49 PM EDT
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Bump stocks.
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:38:44 PM EDT
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WHO the F is this Biden guy??? Who ever he is, what ever he says, is a BIG NO.....I repeat...NO! 10ring
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:39:31 PM EDT
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That sounds like such overreach that it's doomed to fail. It almost sounds like he's just saying shit to appease his insane base.
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:40:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if Biden/Harris really think people are panic buying just to turn it all in. Some are. That is direct question that has been asked at the gun counter. "Can I return this if everything calms down or if Biden bans it if I don't shoot it?" "Why sure you can. I will happily pay you 25 to 30% less than you paid, IF it is legal for me to do so." |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:40:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That sounds like such overreach that it's doomed to fail. It almost sounds like he's just saying shit to appease his insane base. I'm waiting to see how people like Ted Nugent react. Do they stand their ground, or bend the knee?  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:41:32 PM EDT
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Antifa nor BLM will turn theirs in......... nor should anyone else
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:43:00 PM EDT
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I'll take the third option
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:43:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thirsty. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The tree of liberty is...... Thirsty. Damn near dead... |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:43:54 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:44:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: It was a Fox News report in the commercial break a few minutes before Rush starts. --Ya, ya, Fox sucks, we all know. In it, the reporter stated that Biden's gun control plan will give "certain semi-automatic gun owners" two options, register them with the government or sell them to the government. Here it comes. (Looking for a story but can't find it on Fox). 
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:46:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Since .gov is shitting on FOPA, does this mean we don’t have to worry about the Hughes amendment any longer?  Attached FileIf Biden is installed and tries this shit, all options are on the table. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:48:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's currently illegal for any Federal agency to keep a list of the firearms a person has. Biden would have to go through Congress for that FOPA exempts and allows the NFRTR (NFA registry) ......... A new category of weapons added to the NFA, and requiring registration would have to go thru congress..... a "reclassification" to an existing category? not so much..... |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:49:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Would be nice if Republicans in GA would keep this from even being an issue. Go vote in the run off! Voting doesn't matter when the voting machines are compromised, the governor and sos know it...yet still do nothing but hide because they don’t want people looking into their 107 million dollar fiasco |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:51:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any President that tries that and his party would lose big in 2022 & 24. It won’t matter what the voters think when these people can fraud their way into office. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:52:05 PM EDT
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So we can count on the NRA to fight this in courts right?
LOL, but seriously is it GOA or someone else? |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:52:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not any more Our elections are as legitimate as ones in best korea or saddams iraq, or cuba now What American lack is a leader (or leaders) who will or can be the next George Washington circa 1775 to 1782, and lead a ragtag militia and small group of more professional volunteers Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Any President that tries that and his party would lose big in 2022 & 24. Not any more Our elections are as legitimate as ones in best korea or saddams iraq, or cuba now What American lack is a leader (or leaders) who will or can be the next George Washington circa 1775 to 1782, and lead a ragtag militia and small group of more professional volunteers This! America is no longer the land of those who wish/yearn to be free of governmental intrusion and abuse. It is the land of those in the majority who are completely OK and welcome to government occupation and total control over their lives as long as their government cash cards keep being funded!! The majority no longer care for the ideals that drove our Founding Fathers, individualism, success, personal betterment, small government, FREEDOM!! I'm afraid to say that even if we had George Washington himself come back and lead us there wouldn't be any way to right this country once again!! |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:54:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What guns?  ThisWhat are these guns you speak of? Oh you mean those ... those aren't guns. I know they look like guns but toooootally not.  |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:54:23 PM EDT
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Register the rifle and UP TO four magazines; $200 NFA tax on each.
Or, sell them to the government. ETA: I don't know if there's actually a limit of four magazines or if the news story I heard was just using four to round out the proposed tax to $1000 per gun owner... |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:54:41 PM EDT
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Okay. Come and get them. Lol
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:55:16 PM EDT
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lol, no
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:55:21 PM EDT
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Given that if he finds himself in a position to actually promote such a thing it means we've already surrendered the country to leftist control by allowing an influence-peddling traitor to assume the Presidency through fraud and criminal conspiracy, gun registries and taxes won't be the biggest problem on our plate.
We need to win the battle at hand, not plan on how to pick up the pieces afterwards. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:55:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:55:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Since .gov is shitting on FOPA, does this mean we don’t have to worry about the Hughes amendment any longer? I would assume not. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:56:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Register the rifle and UP TO four magazines; $200 NFA tax on each. Or, sell them to the government. REGISTER NOTHING!!! SELL NOTHING!!! |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:57:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Is there a third option? Because I think there might be a third option. Yep. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:57:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a lot of doubts about how they would be able to implement this if it was able to be passed into law and if it survived the many court challenges it would generate. The ATF struggles to process the number of NFA forms it's getting now and there's no way they could ramp up to process millions of stamps even if they had a few years. How are they going to find a feasible way to stamp magazines with no serial numbers as well? They'd also have to deal with mass non compliance in the form of civil disobedience and red states declaring themselves 2A sanctuaries too. I hate the idea of FJB's whole gun control plan but it seems like they are really swinging for the fences on this and hoping beyond hope, these people are professional liars and they lie to their own constituents and to the rest of us too.... Remember Canada's registration system? It will be inundated with fakes, just like Canada. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:58:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:59:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any President that tries that and his party would lose big in 2022 & 24. Are you kidding the left will win more because there are no more elections. The country is toast as we knew it. The Left will just dictate through decree. In fact they will eventually eliminate the legislative and judicial branches since to the left they serve no real purpose. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 3:59:49 PM EDT
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How long before this is settled before the scotus
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Posted: 11/23/2020 4:00:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nah, fuck that. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 4:01:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry, but my ancestors taught me all I need to know about what happens when we give up our guns to them. Fuck that. /Thread |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 4:02:56 PM EDT
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Don't be such a bunch of whiney twits. Let them bring it on.
I am itching for some buy back scheme. Just think how many assault guns you can build with home despot scraps. Bankrupt the country... Feds aint doing jack shit btw. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 4:02:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any President that tries that and his party would lose big in 2022 & 24. Oh yeah right. We're going to stand by and watch him pull off the most blatant example of election fraud and political corruption in history in '20, then suddenly steel our resolve a couple years later because he tries to pass a few gun laws.  The time to fight this is now. Not tomorrow, not next year, not 2022 or 2024. Now. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 4:04:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can't wait for ArfCom to suspend all talk of defiance if it comes to pass, just like now when someone who wishes to do NFA-regulated activities without a permission slip. Shall be infringed, and no site outside of the darkweb will permit discussion of resistance if it is necessary.  They won't have to. It won't be discussion at that point. 
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Posted: 11/23/2020 4:04:58 PM EDT
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This thread is interesting. In an unrelated thought, I wonder how much 1.5" inner diameter steel tubing they have at Home Depot? I might want to upgrade the plumbing in my house or something.
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Posted: 11/23/2020 4:05:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How long before this is settled before the scotus 
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Posted: 11/23/2020 4:09:49 PM EDT
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 Doesn’t look like many people are buying what he’s selling |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 4:11:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is one thing for me to hear others around my age (or younger) to say that they have no plan to comply with Biden's edicts concerning gun control. It is another thing entirely to hear people my parents' age (including my parents and my aunt) to say that they have no plan to comply with them. Anyone with half a brain ought to realize by now after what we have seen over the previous summer that the gov't has no plan to protect us from the criminals. And, the criminals have no plan to suddenly start obeying the law. It is going be up to us if we really want to protect our property and/or lives. The government will be weaponizing the criminals for their gain. The government isn't going to protect anyone from itself. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 4:12:48 PM EDT
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My grandparents saw their families put up against a wall and shot by thw socialists. No way am I giving up shit.
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Posted: 11/23/2020 4:13:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://thumbs.gfycat.com/MasculineNegativeBoto-size_restricted.gif Doesn’t look like many people are buying what he’s selling It's being bought by a third party and presented to them as a complimentary gift. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 4:15:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry, but my ancestors taught me all I need to know about what happens when we give up our guns to them. Fuck that. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 4:15:46 PM EDT
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In for a penny, in for a pound.
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Posted: 11/23/2020 4:19:08 PM EDT
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Ask the people with milk in bags how it worked out for them.
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Posted: 11/23/2020 4:24:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's currently illegal for any Federal agency to keep a list of the firearms a person has And how long does the BATFE keep 4473s on file? |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 4:30:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Voting doesn't matter when the voting machines are compromised, the governor and sos know it...yet still do nothing but hide because they don’t want people looking into their 107 million dollar fiasco Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Would be nice if Republicans in GA would keep this from even being an issue. Go vote in the run off! Voting doesn't matter when the voting machines are compromised, the governor and sos know it...yet still do nothing but hide because they don’t want people looking into their 107 million dollar fiasco Shut up and vote anyway. I am sick of my comrades swallowing the PsyWar crap designed to demoralize us. Can't you guys tell when someone is running an operation on you? Snap out of it. Yes, they may steal the vote again. But they won't have to if you don't vote. After that, let the chips fall where they may.  |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 4:34:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And how long does the BATFE keep 4473s on file? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It's currently illegal for any Federal agency to keep a list of the firearms a person has And how long does the BATFE keep 4473s on file?  Then it is just a matter of gathering up those 4473 in active dealers hands that have not already been photocopied under the guise of "routine audits". Perhaps the aluminum foil hat is a bit too tight but I cannot imagine they are just letting all those 4473's sit around in a warehouse gathering dust. Especially with all of that "valuable" information waiting to be gleaned. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 4:36:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Such an action would require a law passed by the Congress. If they don't take the Senate and then either have a filibuster proof majority or abolish the filibuster it will not pass. If it does pass into law it would have to be upheld by the Supreme Court, which it wouldn't be unless they pack the Court. That is pie in the sky #$%* for them and if they come right out of the gate with that they're going to use up a lot of political capital in a highly divisive fight during a highly partisan environment going into a midterm election that will be very difficult for them already. What you're looking at is the Biden Administration asking for the world in the hopes that the Republicans who have no backbone will compromise and be able to sell their constituents on accepting some "common sense" gun control measures. Pretty classic negotiation strategy, but it's not going to work. We can hold out until 2022 at which point we'll have the Senate for certain and most likely the House of Representatives back, which at that point there is just no chance an AWB of that like gets out of committee. Fairly well written. Good job. But you forget one thing. All it takes is an active shooter situation in the first couple months of his reign, and they will pass anything they want. Let no tragedy go to waste. |
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Posted: 11/23/2020 4:37:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How long before this is settled before the scotus Two words: Common Use Fighting an AWB in the courts might have been tough back in the 90s, but today is a different story. The AR15 platform is inarguably in common use today as one of the most popular rifles in the country. Heller affirmed the common use standard, and with the current court I think it'll be a much heavier lift to do away with that. It all hinges upon the GA runoffs. If we fail to hold the senate, then the Dems could ram through not only the new AWB / registration scheme, but also pack the courts to nullify any challenges to it. |
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