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Posted: 3/4/2018 6:19:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryMy wife found the company that made the glasses for the first Blade Runner movie, and surprised me with them around Christmas, and so I felt that I had to buy the new bottle as well.
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Posted: 3/4/2018 6:20:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My wife found the company that made the glasses for the first Blade Runner movie, and surprised me with them around Christmas, and so I felt that I had to buy the new bottle as well. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1715/AC1FF0B0-90F9-4C65-BA8A-1C8360DB79FF-395240.jpg |
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Posted: 3/4/2018 7:22:53 PM EDT
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I'd take a link to those glasses, @DK-Prof, if your wife is feeling generous enough to share.
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Posted: 3/4/2018 8:55:42 PM EDT
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Movie prop weapon - I'm referring to that. while there were several providers of replicas for the blaster of the original movie, there isn't any (worthy of note) artist or company doing the new one Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not sure what you mean? The new blaster wasn't based on any existing firearm. There's no gun to "replicate" it with. while there were several providers of replicas for the blaster of the original movie, there isn't any (worthy of note) artist or company doing the new one |
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Posted: 3/4/2018 11:03:31 PM EDT
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I'd take a link to those glasses, @DK-Prof, if your wife is feeling generous enough to share. https://www.firebox.com/Blade-Runner-Whiskey-Glasses/p4346 |
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Posted: 3/4/2018 11:04:57 PM EDT
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I just got to watch it. This has to be one of the greatest sci fi movies ever made. Absolutely stunning. Incredible story telling.
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Posted: 3/4/2018 11:05:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/4/2018 11:27:55 PM EDT
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Yes, it's pretty clear he views himself as a God, as his line to Luv proves. "It is customary for an angel entering the presence of God to bring gifts." or whatever he says. (again, paraphrasing. I'll have to watch it a few more times.) Quote HistoryQuoted:
Yes, it's pretty clear he views himself as a God, as his line to Luv proves. "It is customary for an angel entering the presence of God to bring gifts." or whatever he says. (again, paraphrasing. I'll have to watch it a few more times.)  Blade Runner 2049 - The Years Between | official short films (2017) |
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Posted: 3/5/2018 12:24:59 AM EDT
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Movie prop weapon - I'm referring to that. while there were several providers of replicas for the blaster of the original movie, there isn't any (worthy of note) artist or company doing the new one Whereas the old stuff at least falls under the radar or is perhaps common usage or whatever now. |
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Posted: 3/5/2018 12:26:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThank you, sir!
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Posted: 3/5/2018 12:32:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: At a guess - I would think any replicas of the new blaster would fall under copyright or trademark or whatever, and need be officially licensed. Whereas the old stuff at least falls under the radar or is perhaps common usage or whatever now. |
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Posted: 3/5/2018 12:37:15 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/5/2018 1:18:54 AM EDT
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Congrats to Roger Deakins, well deserved!
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Posted: 3/5/2018 1:32:56 AM EDT
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Saw it on a plane this week, so not the best viewing environment..... but I must say, the Luv character was amazing. She made the movie for me. I have a thing for hard, stone-cold women.
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Posted: 3/5/2018 1:38:13 AM EDT
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Saw it on a plane this week, so not the best viewing environment..... but I must say, the Luv character was amazing. She made the movie for me. I have a thing for hard, stone-cold women. 
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Posted: 3/5/2018 1:49:07 AM EDT
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You are in the same boat as me, almost. I wanted to see it on IMAX, but I missed out because I waited a couple weeks too long. |
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Posted: 3/5/2018 2:04:30 AM EDT
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Just watched it on the airplane, that movie sucked!
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Posted: 3/5/2018 2:47:11 AM EDT
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Her reaction is why I was wondering about the scene. I didn't see fear as much as empathy, sorrow. Even the most evil replicant has a touch of humanity. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: The Luv character was outstanding! Small and thin, beautiful but hard edged, razor focused and yet emotional, and of course brutally lethal. 
The scene when she kills the lab tech was powerful - as was her final interaction with Robin Wright's character. Luv makes it clear she despises not just lower Replicants but many humans as well. That actress is very good. I hoped at the end she would turn (in the interests of her kind) but obviously her loyalty to Wallace was too great. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/30143/Sylvia_Hoeks_Luv-436077.JPG |
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Posted: 3/5/2018 2:51:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/5/2018 3:06:07 AM EDT
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I think it's too long, it could use some careful editing. The music was good, but only two pieces are memorable, "Mesa" and "All the best memories are her's". The music is in no way as good or memorable as the Vangelis score for the original Blade Runner. Virtually every piece of his sticks with you and stays with you since the original movie came out. Of all the actors, "Luv" was the most vibrant. In any scene she's in you can't take your eyes off her. Just standing there draws your eye to her. Questions.... Why is it necessary to make movies so dark that you can't see what the hell is going on? I tried on both my flat screen TV and computer and can hardly make out much of the movie even with the brightness run all the way up. The attack on Luv's limo and the fight in the water is mostly just a dark screen with a little shadowy movement. Do you think it might be possible to somehow make the credits and beginning text smaller and harder to read. I was almost able to read some of it so they need to do better next time. The whole point of the two movies is, What is a human? What is NOT a human. If we can make an artificial human, not a robot or android, but a live human, limit his life span or force him to obey, does it make it alright that we've made slaves? Because we make them does that absolve us of being slave masters? If we manufacture slaves does that make us less human? If our manufactured slaves have feelings, are they not human? If they have feelings how do we justify keeping them as slaves? Because the replicants have feelings, are they truly "More Human Than Human". If you are manufactured do you have a soul? Why not? Apparently the humans of this future have fallen very far. The humans are no longer human and the Men of 1861 to 1865 were wasted. |
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Posted: 3/5/2018 3:06:19 AM EDT
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Note in the scene where the new model is examined, Wallace says: "Let's take a look inside." and Luv installs his "seeing" chip and the drone eyeballs come in for a look. I say Luv was terrified because most of the drones are examining the new model, but one never leaves the right side of Luv's head. BTW, the Luv character is interesting to me. She is physically flawless, apparently strong and as fast as a leopard, has a mind capable of total recall, is a slick saleswoman and her senses miss nothing, but her behavior in times of violence is almost childlike in maturity. Like when she shouts "Im the best!" to K. She wants to please Wallace, maybe like a child would if they had an abusive parent. I'm not a psychiatrist, but there is term for that unusual devotion abused children exhibit to monstrous parents. Maybe Luv is actually only eight years old in reality and the programmed varnish can't cover that sometimes. The gal that played that part was excellent. I'm also not an Oscar judge, but that was some Oscar grade acting, IMO. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: The Luv character was outstanding! Small and thin, beautiful but hard edged, razor focused and yet emotional, and of course brutally lethal.
The scene when she kills the lab tech was powerful - as was her final interaction with Robin Wright's character. Luv makes it clear she despises not just lower Replicants but many humans as well. That actress is very good. I hoped at the end she would turn (in the interests of her kind) but obviously her loyalty to Wallace was too great. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/30143/Sylvia_Hoeks_Luv-436077.JPG Because like great master pieces of art, this can be seen from so many angles and each of us has our own biases on it. |
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Posted: 3/5/2018 3:24:47 AM EDT
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Both of you guys have really mind stimulating theories. Which again, is why I love films like this, that we all could sit in a single room together on couches and talk about this movie for a looong time. Because like great master pieces of art, this can be seen from so many angles and each of us has our own biases on it.  Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 3/5/2018 3:33:00 AM EDT
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At the end of the movie, was Deckers daughter watching Ks last memories of the snowfall as he died? I sure think she was. Beautiful, isn’t it. Thought it was cool that they used the same music as Roy's death. Both of them were programmed to be calculating, coldblooded and merciless killers, but both granted mercies to Deckard at the end of life. K is supposed to be an improved model over Roy's generation. A similar end of life experience should not have happened with K. Tyrell and Wallace were not as brilliant as they thought. Some things cannot be totally eradicated. |
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Posted: 3/5/2018 3:40:31 AM EDT
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what it really did was to make her look like a drag queen. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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...they used CGI to de-age her... If you watch the original, Rachel, played by a young Sean Young, was made to look doll like. Heavy makeup (though she did not need any to look pretty) and looked like some weird contacts to make her eyes catch reflected light like that replicant owl. Guess they did that to hint early that she was a replicant. |
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Posted: 3/5/2018 3:56:05 AM EDT
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I just got to watch it. This has to be one of the greatest sci fi movies ever made. Absolutely stunning. Incredible story telling. 
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Posted: 3/5/2018 4:26:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No, drag queens copied Rachel. :) It was thirty years ago. If you watch the original, Rachel, played by a young Sean Young, was made to look doll like. Heavy makeup (though she did not need any to look pretty) and looked like some weird contacts to make her eyes catch reflected light like that replicant owl. Guess they did that to hint early that she was a replicant.  Attached Filethis looks like a man in drag:  Attached Filei respect the technical ability that the scene required, but the uncanny valley is still a thing. could have been solved with one line of dialogue--something like "that a bad copy" instead of the green eyes line. but as is, it just didn't work for me. it was like they modeled sean young's current face, then tried to de-age it without understanding how a face changes as one gets older. |
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Posted: 3/5/2018 4:29:11 AM EDT
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Quote Historylol..$138 for two glasses? 
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Posted: 3/5/2018 4:29:55 AM EDT
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Both of you guys have really mind stimulating theories. Which again, is why I love films like this, that we all could sit in a single room together on couches and talk about this movie for a looong time. Because like great master pieces of art, this can be seen from so many angles and each of us has our own biases on it.
Was Wallace a replicant built by Tyrell? Maybe a secret "genius son" model of the same gen as Reproductive Rachel? He does look too young to have been around to snap up the remnants of Tyrell Corp after the old man's death. Tyrell was a higher level of smarts than Wallace. Maybe Tyrell added blindness to delay Wallace's accent to his throne...wouldn't want the kid putting him in an early grave to do so. (Whoops, another son did it anyway, out of rage) Roy murdered Tyrell by pushing his thumbs into the old man's eye sockets. I don't think that is coincidence. Smoke on that. 
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Posted: 3/5/2018 4:44:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: of course--dolls were a recurring visual motif of the original. regardless, this looks like a woman: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/26435/rachel1-472264.JPG this looks like a man in drag: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/26435/blade-runner-2049-sean-young-mpc-vfx-13-hero-472265.JPG i respect the technical ability that the scene required, but the uncanny valley is still a thing. could have been solved with one line of dialogue--something like "that a bad copy" instead of the green eyes line. but as is, it just didn't work for me. it was like they modeled sean young's current face, then tried to de-age it without understanding how a face changes as one gets older. |
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Posted: 3/5/2018 4:59:56 AM EDT
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of course--dolls were a recurring visual motif of the original. regardless, this looks like a woman: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/26435/rachel1-472264.JPG this looks like a man in drag: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/26435/blade-runner-2049-sean-young-mpc-vfx-13-hero-472265.JPG i respect the technical ability that the scene required, but the uncanny valley is still a thing. could have been solved with one line of dialogue--something like "that a bad copy" instead of the green eyes line. but as is, it just didn't work for me. it was like they modeled sean young's current face, then tried to de-age it without understanding how a face changes as one gets older. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: No, drag queens copied Rachel. :) It was thirty years ago. If you watch the original, Rachel, played by a young Sean Young, was made to look doll like. Heavy makeup (though she did not need any to look pretty) and looked like some weird contacts to make her eyes catch reflected light like that replicant owl. Guess they did that to hint early that she was a replicant. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/26435/rachel1-472264.JPG this looks like a man in drag: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/26435/blade-runner-2049-sean-young-mpc-vfx-13-hero-472265.JPG i respect the technical ability that the scene required, but the uncanny valley is still a thing. could have been solved with one line of dialogue--something like "that a bad copy" instead of the green eyes line. but as is, it just didn't work for me. it was like they modeled sean young's current face, then tried to de-age it without understanding how a face changes as one gets older. |
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Posted: 3/5/2018 5:10:27 AM EDT
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I Always thought her hair, the texture, waviness, and all, made it look just like a doll's hair too. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: of course--dolls were a recurring visual motif of the original. regardless, this looks like a woman: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/26435/rachel1-472264.JPG this looks like a man in drag: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/26435/blade-runner-2049-sean-young-mpc-vfx-13-hero-472265.JPG i respect the technical ability that the scene required, but the uncanny valley is still a thing. could have been solved with one line of dialogue--something like "that a bad copy" instead of the green eyes line. but as is, it just didn't work for me. it was like they modeled sean young's current face, then tried to de-age it without understanding how a face changes as one gets older.  I much preferred the scene when Young had her hair down. Lawdy, she was an easy on the eyes. Gratuitous pic, just for reference....
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tN-Ngo9SdN8/TwhxcZQvU5I/AAAAAAAAJBg/u6zkrPC2C-4/s640/piano+robe+sean+young+Blade+Runner.jpg |
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Posted: 3/5/2018 10:08:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryVery cool but damn, $138. Hate to drop one of those.....
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Posted: 3/5/2018 10:19:41 AM EDT
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Very cool but damn, $138. Hate to drop one of those..... Quote HistoryQuoted:
 Also, for a crystal tumbler, that’s not actually too outrageous.
Interestingly, they LOOK very fragile, but we discovered they are pretty robust when our asshole cat knocked one of them off a bookcase, and it fell about five feet onto a hardwood floor ... and survived without any chips or cracks or anything. |
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Posted: 3/5/2018 10:22:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My wife is very nice. Also, for a crystal tumbler, that’s not actually too outrageous.
Interestingly, they LOOK very fragile, but we discovered they are pretty robust when our asshole cat knocked one of them off a bookcase, and it fell about five feet onto a hardwood floor ... and survived without any chips or cracks or anything. |
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Posted: 3/5/2018 10:28:09 AM EDT
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You are in the same boat as me, almost. I wanted to see it on IMAX, but I missed out because I waited a couple weeks too long. |
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Posted: 3/6/2018 6:47:30 PM EDT
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Congrats to Roger Deakins, well deserved! He is THE MAN! 
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Posted: 3/6/2018 7:16:16 PM EDT
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 Roger Deakins wins Oscar for Best Cinematography - Oscars 2018 - Full Backstage Interview |
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Posted: 3/6/2018 9:49:54 PM EDT
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So Vegas is radioactive. The humans they set after Decker had to wear gas masks. But the replicants were just fine in it... ?
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Posted: 3/6/2018 11:04:11 PM EDT
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So Vegas is radioactive. The humans they set after Decker had to wear gas masks. But the replicants were just fine in it... ? |
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Posted: 3/6/2018 11:12:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI'm getting them!
I can drink whiskey from them as I feel around inside my mouth for loose teeth while spitting blood into the sink. |
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Posted: 3/6/2018 11:16:44 PM EDT
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So Vegas is radioactive. The humans they set after Decker had to wear gas masks. But the replicants were just fine in it... ? |
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Posted: 3/7/2018 12:51:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My wife is very nice. Also, for a crystal tumbler, that’s not actually too outrageous.
Interestingly, they LOOK very fragile, but we discovered they are pretty robust when our asshole cat knocked one of them off a bookcase, and it fell about five feet onto a hardwood floor ... and survived without any chips or cracks or anything. 
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Posted: 3/7/2018 1:09:44 AM EDT
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"...asshole cat..." Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: My wife is very nice. Also, for a crystal tumbler, that’s not actually too outrageous.
Interestingly, they LOOK very fragile, but we discovered they are pretty robust when our asshole cat knocked one of them off a bookcase, and it fell about five feet onto a hardwood floor ... and survived without any chips or cracks or anything.
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Posted: 3/7/2018 10:26:18 AM EDT
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They missiled the room before landing. Debris in the air would make me want to wear a respirator too.did they gas the place as well? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So Vegas is radioactive. The humans they set after Decker had to wear gas masks. But the replicants were just fine in it... ? |
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Posted: 3/7/2018 10:28:09 AM EDT
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That sucks, It looked incredible. When theaters started pulling it two weeks after release, I knew I had to hustle. Not a week after I saw it, the IMAX theater near me pulled it. |
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Posted: 3/7/2018 11:23:44 AM EDT
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So Vegas is radioactive. The humans they set after Decker had to wear gas masks. But the replicants were just fine in it... ? |
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Posted: 3/7/2018 11:33:07 AM EDT
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I'm getting them! I can drink whiskey from them as I feel around inside my mouth for loose teeth while spitting blood into the sink. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I can drink whiskey from them as I feel around inside my mouth for loose teeth while spitting blood into the sink. |
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Posted: 3/7/2018 12:52:37 PM EDT
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Sigh...........
This place costing me money yet again............
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Posted: 3/7/2018 12:57:50 PM EDT
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Isn't that redundant? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interestingly, they LOOK very fragile, but we discovered they are pretty robust when our asshole cat knocked one of them off a bookcase, and it fell about five feet onto a hardwood floor ... and survived without any chips or cracks or anything. This is the asshole - her name is Gipsy Danger 
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Posted: 3/7/2018 1:04:05 PM EDT
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I'm debating on buying the Blu-Ray or a digital copy. I've owned close to a half-dozen versions of the original film, from VHS to DVD plus Director Cuts. I may just a buy a copy on Youtube if I ever see a sale.
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