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Link Posted: 2/27/2021 10:48:26 PM EDT
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No.  The original "Oh well" case was a woman shot by a cop during one of those civilian training sessions, where the cop loaded his revolver with SWC instead of blanks.
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That guy got ten years probation. Amazing after he had set his dog on someone unlawfully before and also been fired from another agency for excessive force.
Link Posted: 2/27/2021 10:51:41 PM EDT
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For us 'civilians' we are told that we are responsible for every bullet.

1. Here cop tries to shoot dog and kills woman.

2. Here cop tries to shoot dog and shoots a little girl in the eye due to ricochet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70OrW1cy9SQ

3. Here cop has a family prone out on their lawn and shoots a non-threatening dog, but misses and hits a 10 year old.

Then, "while the children were lying on the ground obeying [Vickers's] orders . . . without necessity or any immediate threat or cause, [Vickers] discharged his firearm at the family pet named 'Bruce' twice." The first shot missed, and Bruce (a dog) temporarily retreated under Corbitt's home. No other efforts were made to restrain or subdue the dog, and no one appeared threatened by him. Eight or ten seconds after Vickers fired the first shot, the dog reappeared and was "approaching his owners," when Vickers fired a second shot at the dog. This shot also missed the dog, but the bullet struck SDC in the back of his right knee. At the time of the shot, SDC was "readily viewable" and resting "approximately eighteen inches from . . . Vickers, lying on the ground, face down, pursuant to the orders of [Vickers]."  Vickers got QI because no sufficiently similar case existed.

4. In June in Louisville cops were trying to enforce a 9PM curfew.  Cops allege someone in the crowd shot at them so they fired wildly back.  (NO evidence of anyone in the crowd firing was ever found.  Cops didn't turn on their body cams)  and hit a business owner, killing him.

5. I'm sure we all remember the UPS van that the cops shot the shit out of, killing the kidnapped UPS driver and an innocent bystander.

6. New Orleans - while investigating a theft an suspect popped off a shot then took off running.  NOLA cops opened fire at him.  missed him, but hit 5 innocent bystanders.  

7. NYC officer sees a pedestrian acting erratically on the street. They go to confront him.  Officers claim he reached into his pocket so they feared he was drawing a weapon.  They fired 3 shots, missing him each time hit two innocent bystanders.  Another cop used a taser on the naughty pedestrian who was found to not be armed, and whose only crime was 'interfering with free flow of traffic'

8. NYC police confront a man they think shot a co-worker, officers fired 16 shots, and while they managed to kill the guy they were shooting at, and at least this time it was a legitimately armed and dangerous individual, they still also wounded 9 innocent bystanders

Clearly, rules for the serfs and different rules for the masters
Link Posted: 2/27/2021 10:51:46 PM EDT
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dog was a german shepherd and according to the article was biting him as he was trying to defend the husband from this woman.  he slipped or was pulled by the dog while he was shooting.  

Sounds like severe retardation was infecting the family.  I didn't watch the video and I don't want to.  Can anyone verify what the article says by watching the video?
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Definitely a dysfunctional family situation but they look geniuses compared to officer

If that dog was a German shepherd then it was a pup I’d say 30 lbs?? And regardless I’d imagine if you have to dispatch a dog (he didn’t) you wouldn’t do it when the dog was pressed up against 2 people and a small child is right there aswell

Officer should be behind bars 100%
Link Posted: 2/27/2021 10:53:16 PM EDT
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Mostly it's the pay.

One cannot expect the best (or even good) personnel for $13.75/hr.
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How does profession attract the stupidest of the stupid?
Mostly it's the pay.

One cannot expect the best (or even good) personnel for $13.75/hr.

And the fact that they turn down anyone who has a slightly higher than average IQ, and they like to seek out individuals who want to be cops to shoot guns, do high speed chases, park wherever they want, etc. rather than people who want to make a difference.
Link Posted: 2/27/2021 10:53:57 PM EDT
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This goes in the category when you think you've had a bad day.
Link Posted: 2/27/2021 10:55:18 PM EDT
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For us 'civilians' we are told that we are responsible for every bullet.

1. Here cop tries to shoot dog and kills woman.

2. Here cop tries to shoot dog and shoots a little girl in the eye due to ricochet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70OrW1cy9SQ

3. Here cop has a family prone out on their lawn and shoots a non-threatening dog, but misses and hits a 10 year old.

Then, "while the children were lying on the ground obeying [Vickers's] orders . . . without necessity or any immediate threat or cause, [Vickers] discharged his firearm at the family pet named 'Bruce' twice." The first shot missed, and Bruce (a dog) temporarily retreated under Corbitt's home. No other efforts were made to restrain or subdue the dog, and no one appeared threatened by him. Eight or ten seconds after Vickers fired the first shot, the dog reappeared and was "approaching his owners," when Vickers fired a second shot at the dog. This shot also missed the dog, but the bullet struck SDC in the back of his right knee. At the time of the shot, SDC was "readily viewable" and resting "approximately eighteen inches from . . . Vickers, lying on the ground, face down, pursuant to the orders of [Vickers]."  Vickers got QI because no sufficiently similar case existed.

4. In June in Louisville cops were trying to enforce a 9PM curfew.  Cops allege someone in the crowd shot at them so they fired wildly back.  (NO evidence of anyone in the crowd firing was ever found.  Cops didn't turn on their body cams)  and hit a business owner, killing him.

5. I'm sure we all remember the UPS van that the cops shot the shit out of, killing the kidnapped UPS driver and an innocent bystander.

6. New Orleans - while investigating a theft an suspect popped off a shot then took off running.  NOLA cops opened fire at him.  missed him, but hit 5 innocent bystanders.  

7. NYC officer sees a pedestrian acting erratically on the street. They go to confront him.  Officers claim he reached into his pocket so they feared he was drawing a weapon.  They fired 3 shots, missing him each time hit two innocent bystanders.  Another cop used a taser on the naughty pedestrian who was found to not be armed, and whose only crime was 'interfering with free flow of traffic'

8. NYC police confront a man they think shot a co-worker, officers fired 16 shots, and while they managed to kill the guy they were shooting at, and at least this time it was a legitimately armed and dangerous individual, they still also wounded 9 innocent bystanders

Clearly, rules for the serfs and different rules for the masters
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Usually when you say that someone can get away with murder it’s just a figure of speech not so for cops
Link Posted: 2/27/2021 10:56:57 PM EDT
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dog was a german shepherd and according to the article was biting him as he was trying to defend the husband from this woman.  he slipped or was pulled by the dog while he was shooting.  

Sounds like severe retardation was infecting the family.  I didn't watch the video and I don't want to.  Can anyone verify what the article says by watching the video?
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Video doesn’t show much except that he used a family as a backstop.
Link Posted: 2/27/2021 11:00:02 PM EDT
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Now can I stop traffic on federal highways, start screeching "white lives matter" and have my own autonomous zone for 6 weeks?
Link Posted: 2/27/2021 11:00:44 PM EDT
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Vibe check status: failed.
Link Posted: 2/27/2021 11:04:00 PM EDT
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There is a certain degree of poetic justice to it. Not that I endorse any of it.

She started beating on the husband
Link Posted: 2/27/2021 11:15:37 PM EDT
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Found a cop.

What happened before doesn’t matter.  At the end of the day, the idiot murdered a woman while aiming for a harmless dog.
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2015 on the video. Iowa News says it's over, her family gets $2 million and Ofc. Jesse Hill goes back to work in Burlington Iowa. She had just spent the night in jail over a domestic dispute with her husband. Ofc. Hill was escorting her to pick up some things at the house since she was not to have contact with her husband. She started beating on the husband as Ofc. Hill tries to break it up and the dog jumps on him. IMO, he is one of those guys scared of dogs and he shoots at dog hitting her and she dies. That is the whole story. OP tries to get people riled up on police shooting a civilian when the story is much broader than that. It's play stupid games, win stupid prizes sort of thing. All in all, a big dose of the juice would have been better than gun fire, that is my living room judgement in my lazy boy chair sort of thing.


Found a cop.

What happened before doesn’t matter.  At the end of the day, the idiot murdered a woman while aiming for a harmless dog.


Everything matters. None of this would have happened if she had not started the chain of events. Everyone there was a dumbass. I feel absolutely nothing for stupid people that cause their own demise. Even Officer Dog Killer. You did not find a cop, check your crystal ball for malfunction.
Link Posted: 2/27/2021 11:31:26 PM EDT
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1.  Don't fight in the street in front of your son with your husband like some sort of trash.
2.  Don't continue to be such trash that you continue to fight when a cop walks up.
3.  Don't be so ridiculously irresponsible that you decide to shoot dogs when you are surrounded by fighting trashy people and you are armed with pepper spray which is the appropriate weapon for the dog and the fighting trashy people.

Who started this bullshit of shooting dogs at the first sign of trouble?   I am not saying that shooting dogs is never inappropriate, but it's almost never appropriate.
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Concise, Clear, 100% truth. PEPPER SPRAY dogs, people, trashy people all hate it
Link Posted: 2/27/2021 11:33:32 PM EDT
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I’m sure there was a way to handle it that wouldn’t have resulted in someone dying.
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Yes, stand aside and pepper spray with the biggest cannister you can buy!
Link Posted: 2/27/2021 11:35:14 PM EDT
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The number of people who are ok with this shooting is fucking disgusting.
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I am not okay with it...It's just idiots collide kind of shit and I don't really care after that.
Link Posted: 2/27/2021 11:40:13 PM EDT
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After reading everything. Hillbillies were having domestic violence episode. Not in control of child not a control dog. Cop is trying to separate them. Tries to shoo dog away. Dog bites cop > cop shoots at dog >lady gets hit in the chest.

Clearly an accident.  I will call it an accidental shooting shit happens don’t beat your wife keep your dog under control.

The hillbilly survivors got money for the whole thing.
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LOL I agree
Link Posted: 2/27/2021 11:45:18 PM EDT
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In 5 years someone will post it again.
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so quick to be edgy, failed to read that the footage was only just recently released do to lawsuits.  I know reading is hard, and post counts matter almost as much a being edgy...
Link Posted: 2/27/2021 11:51:04 PM EDT
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so quick to be edgy, failed to read that the footage was only just recently released do to lawsuits.  I know reading is hard, and post counts matter almost as much a being edgy...
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In 5 years someone will post it again.

so quick to be edgy, failed to read that the footage was only just recently released do to lawsuits.  I know reading is hard, and post counts matter almost as much a being edgy...


Honestly it’ll probably be posted a few times in the next 5 years. But yea you’re right too....
Link Posted: 2/27/2021 11:52:45 PM EDT
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How does that profession attract the stupidest of the stupid?

If you’re a cop, then you know what I’m talking about.
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Quotas mandated by liberals...
Link Posted: 2/27/2021 11:53:10 PM EDT
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OK, that makes more sense.  Still a messed up situation.
Link Posted: 2/27/2021 11:53:41 PM EDT
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In Mobile Alabama, Heart of Dixie and all that, a 250# black campus police office sat at his desk behind a locked door in a campus police station. University of South Alabama. 2 or 3am

Suddenly a completely naked 135# kid started banging on the door yelling incoherently.  He was gesturing to the police officer. The officer couldn't understand what the naked kid was trying to say.

The 250# armed police officer was so afraid for his life, he didn't call for back up.  He didn't stay inside the locked police station. He didn't grab his taser either.

He was so afraid for his life, he thought it was best to leave the protection of the locked police station, go outside and shoot the 135# naked kid dead.

Then he called for back up.  No charges were filed.
Link Posted: 2/27/2021 11:54:47 PM EDT
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so quick to be edgy, failed to read that the footage was only just recently released do to lawsuits.  I know reading is hard, and post counts matter almost as much a being edgy...
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Link Posted: 2/27/2021 11:55:16 PM EDT
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I would not wish that on anybody. Tragedy all around.
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This.

He should have taken the bite.


Anyone have the full story?
Link Posted: 2/27/2021 11:55:43 PM EDT
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You mean if it was a white cop that shot an unarmed black woman during a domestic?

You're looking for "the same 7 figure settlement with a side of BLM protests", but this was Iowa.
Link Posted: 2/27/2021 11:58:38 PM EDT
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You mean if it was a white cop that shot an unarmed black woman during a domestic?

You're looking for "the same 7 figure settlement with a side of BLM protests", but this was Iowa.
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If roles were reversed . . .


You mean if it was a white cop that shot an unarmed black woman during a domestic?

You're looking for "the same 7 figure settlement with a side of BLM protests", but this was Iowa.


I must have watched a different video.
She looked like a light skinned black woman to me.
Link Posted: 2/28/2021 12:02:59 AM EDT
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Except the dog did bite him.  At least according source referenced by Wiki.
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That was what he claimed happened in his statement when he was scared he was going to jail.  He even got some "treatment" from the paramedics on the scene to make it legit.  The video evidence from his body cam shows only a dog wagging his tail and no barking.

The footage was only released years later after several lawsuits.  Long after officer dindonuffin was cleared of any wrong doing, promoted, and sent on his way happily living out his life.
Link Posted: 2/28/2021 12:04:43 AM EDT
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Concise, Clear, 100% truth. PEPPER SPRAY dogs, people, trashy people all hate it
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Bonus points if pepper spray is dyed and trashy woman spends another night in jail, this time orange or blue or green or some other not human color.
Link Posted: 2/28/2021 12:06:35 AM EDT
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My Sargeant was talking to a couple of us who are going through Academy.  We were talking about tests while in the Academy.  He stated "the ones that make 100's on the test don't stay cops for long.  They're usually gone in a year or two.  The ones that score in the 70's (70 is passing) make the best cops."

My test average so far is 98%.  
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with any luck, you will be shooting unarmed women dogs in no time... Good luck serving and protecting
Link Posted: 2/28/2021 12:11:02 AM EDT
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That ''OMG I'm going to prison'' isn't going to look great when played back, more worried about himself then the woman he just shot isn't what a jury [if it ever gets to that] is going to want to hear.
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Most likely why the footage was not released, and only done so after lawsuits were filed.  Years after officer dindonuffin was cleared of charges because he had to make some "fast" decisions
Link Posted: 2/28/2021 12:12:26 AM EDT
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so quick to be edgy, failed to read that the footage was only just recently released do to lawsuits.  I know reading is hard, and post counts matter almost as much a being edgy...
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If you're gonna be snarky at least be right.  The bodycam footage was released in 2018.
Link Posted: 2/28/2021 12:20:16 AM EDT
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If you're gonna be snarky at least be right.  The bodycam footage was released in 2018.
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The footage was in fact released after the lawsuit was settled and the officer returned to work.
Link Posted: 2/28/2021 12:21:17 AM EDT
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Jesus Christ... isn't this like 7 years old?

Talk about the mother of all dupes....
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First, dupe doesn't mean 'old news' it means duplicating another active thread. So please link the other non-archived thread on this subject.

Second, yes, 7 years have passed and the woman is still dead.  7 year have past and that POS cop is still a cop
Link Posted: 2/28/2021 12:23:26 AM EDT
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dog was a german shepherd and according to the article was biting him as he was trying to defend the husband from this woman.  he slipped or was pulled by the dog while he was shooting.  

Sounds like severe retardation was infecting the family.  I didn't watch the video and I don't want to.  Can anyone verify what the article says by watching the video?
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The video is not too graphic and not too clear, but clear enough to show that none of that actually happened.  The cop murdered the poor ignorant lady because he responded improperly to the threat.  Then he let her die face down in the snow as he cried out that he was going to jail, before he finally started doing CPR.

If the dog was really a threat, why didn't it "continue" to attack when the officer was on top of its owner doing CPR?  Surely a protective dog wouldn't just stand their wagging its tail while that went on.  It would have been all over the cop.
Link Posted: 2/28/2021 12:26:28 AM EDT
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Horrible. Everyone involved will have a fucked life, tragedy. Betting that cop suck starts a shotgun within 5-10 years
Link Posted: 2/28/2021 12:27:53 AM EDT
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Imagine if a conservative heterosexual protest white male who was legally concealed carrying did the same thing?
Link Posted: 2/28/2021 12:31:43 AM EDT
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That sucked

wish I hadnt seen it now
Link Posted: 2/28/2021 12:37:03 AM EDT
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should he lose his career and pension over an accident...idk
I whole heartily believe he should no longer be allowed on patrol in the future
not only because he has shown he is incapable of making basic life or death decisions involving his duty weapon
would you risk a child's life to avoid getting bit by a dog?

but also, will he be able to react in a situation in the future without doubting his actions
therefore putting everyone involved at risk(like his partner, or surrounding civies)

desk job and early retirement
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Help me understand why he shouldn't loose his career and pension over an accident?

In most other walks of life if you have an accident it can frequently end your career.  As a tax lawyer, forget to file your client's taxes on time, that will end your career.  Truck driver get into an accident?  That may or may not end your career, depending if it was totally unavoidable or not.

But here, it's more than just an accident.  It demonstrates he doesn't have the judgement to be an officer.  He can't handle a stressful situation.  He can't handle a gun. He can't render first aid.  He can't tell the truth about what happened.  Why should he be given a desk job rather than getting fired and he can get a job at Home Depot or something.  If he is unfit, why should he stay a member of the PD?
Link Posted: 2/28/2021 12:38:22 AM EDT
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Oh my goodness.  That was the stupidest fucking thing that cop could have done.  There were three people that could have been his backstop...a little boy included.

Something to be said about a good knife and some OC...

I have been attacked by a pit, once, while not on duty.  She got me good.  While on the job, I have been nipped at by pits, been charged by pits, had my boot bitten by a pit and even punctured a hole in it.  I have never once thought of discharging my fucking pistol because of a dog.  I am a dog person, but I hate pitbulls.  Even still, it would have to be a significant mauling, and I would have to be on the losing end, before I would even consider it.

I am not saying this because I'm some Chuck Norris, bad ass fucker.  I'm not.  I am saying this because I know one very simple thing, it is very easy to discharge a bullet.  It is impossible to recall it once it's shot.  

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Just waiting to see everyone come in and support the murderer because he was afraid of a fucking dog and had to go straight to his gun.....


Oh my goodness.  That was the stupidest fucking thing that cop could have done.  There were three people that could have been his backstop...a little boy included.

Something to be said about a good knife and some OC...

I have been attacked by a pit, once, while not on duty.  She got me good.  While on the job, I have been nipped at by pits, been charged by pits, had my boot bitten by a pit and even punctured a hole in it.  I have never once thought of discharging my fucking pistol because of a dog.  I am a dog person, but I hate pitbulls.  Even still, it would have to be a significant mauling, and I would have to be on the losing end, before I would even consider it.

I am not saying this because I'm some Chuck Norris, bad ass fucker.  I'm not.  I am saying this because I know one very simple thing, it is very easy to discharge a bullet.  It is impossible to recall it once it's shot.  


I think a grown ass man who can't fight off a dog without a gun is kind of pussy. 90lb pitbull? Kick it in the face.
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I think a grown ass man who can't fight off a dog without a gun is kind of pussy. 90lb pitbull? Kick it in the face.
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Just waiting to see everyone come in and support the murderer because he was afraid of a fucking dog and had to go straight to his gun.....


Oh my goodness.  That was the stupidest fucking thing that cop could have done.  There were three people that could have been his backstop...a little boy included.

Something to be said about a good knife and some OC...

I have been attacked by a pit, once, while not on duty.  She got me good.  While on the job, I have been nipped at by pits, been charged by pits, had my boot bitten by a pit and even punctured a hole in it.  I have never once thought of discharging my fucking pistol because of a dog.  I am a dog person, but I hate pitbulls.  Even still, it would have to be a significant mauling, and I would have to be on the losing end, before I would even consider it.

I am not saying this because I'm some Chuck Norris, bad ass fucker.  I'm not.  I am saying this because I know one very simple thing, it is very easy to discharge a bullet.  It is impossible to recall it once it's shot.  


I think a grown ass man who can't fight off a dog without a gun is kind of pussy. 90lb pitbull? Kick it in the face.


What do you do then, after accomplishing nothing but pissing the dog off even more?
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Shoot the motherfucker.
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The number of people who are ok with this shooting is fucking disgusting.
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I don't recall a thread over a shooting where we are in universal agreement. At best you'll get some redirection and gaslighting.
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How does that profession attract the stupidest of the stupid?

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The short time I was a cop a guy shot his own car, oh he also drove home once with his radio on to listen to it. It ended up laying on its push to talk button and broadcast his phone conversation where he was talking shit about his supervisors and apparently used some spicy language to describe the people who lived in his heat area... plus fucked that channel so it couldn’t be used by the on duty people during this. He eventually got shit canned for something else after I left that I don’t know about.
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I would not wish that on anybody. Tragedy all around.
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Absolutely heartbreaking.
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This.  I'm amazed how many cops seem to think that a golden retriever or such is a deadly threat that requires going to guns.
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The cop who shot her? Fuck that guy. He should have ate his gun right after it happened.
Link Posted: 2/28/2021 2:21:03 AM EDT
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Jesus, she was agonal when they rolled her over and he thinks she's "breathing".
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Also where did he shoot her?  It didn’t look like the head but wherever it was it killed her quick. She didn’t seem to move or make a sound afterward.
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She was probably shot in the breast.  That is the only place they didnt check.  The clearly avoided looking under her bra, which is understandable.

Imo if a woman is shot a bleed check is going to happen and the bra is coming off.
Link Posted: 2/28/2021 2:41:52 AM EDT
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PSA to any police officers reading this:

Sometimes you're going to get bit.
Fucking deal with it.

Now a young mother is dead because of police training.
But all officers made it home safely, right?
Link Posted: 2/28/2021 2:47:54 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/28/2021 2:48:02 AM EDT
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No they don't..  They all think they are highly intelligent and MOST importantly, they think they are BETTER than you....
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How does profession attract the stupidest of the stupid?

If you're a cop, then you know what I'm talking about.
No they don't..  They all think they are highly intelligent and MOST importantly, they think they are BETTER than you....


Well, many of us ARE "highly intelligent" and have the degrees to prove it. The rest of your statement is simply too ridiculous to bother addressing. As to substandard officers, it happens in EVERY profession.
Link Posted: 2/28/2021 2:51:44 AM EDT
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Mostly it's the pay.

One cannot expect the best (or even good) personnel for $13.75/hr.
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Mostly it's the pay.

One cannot expect the best (or even good) personnel for $13.75/hr.


Kinda. If I had ever gotten married and had a family, I would have been off the job so fast I would have left scorch marks turning my gear in. It's a pretty common thing down south, LE being a job most people transition through.
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