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Posted: 2/28/2021 2:56:31 AM EDT
[#1]
After reading a few articles I was like, "WTF".
Then I read one that said he is a SRO. That explained it. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 3:01:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good Shot? at least he gets to go home safely You really don't get it, huh? Tragedy can happen anywhere, anytime. Bad shoot. Wrong.. cops life is ruined. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 3:21:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You really don't get it, huh? Tragedy can happen anywhere, anytime. Bad shoot. Wrong.. cops life is ruined. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Good Shot? at least he gets to go home safely You really don't get it, huh? Tragedy can happen anywhere, anytime. Bad shoot. Wrong.. cops life is ruined. This isn't random tragedy, it's incompetence and a cover up until after the lawsuit. The cop cared more about his should be jail term then killing her. He managed to not be held accountable, taxpayers righted his wrong and he's still a liability with a badge. You really don't get it. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 3:44:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In his defense, the adult couple appeared to be having a domestic incident in public. I believe I heard the officer state that one spouse was striking the the other as he approached. Sad situation but never would’ve happened if they weren’t beating on one another on the sidewalk, while also failing to control their dog. Failing to control the dog?! You mean the dog protecting its owner and attacking the threat? I hope he eats his piece, fuck him |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 3:49:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Failing to control the dog?! You mean the dog protecting its owner and attacking the threat? I hope he eats his piece, fuck him 
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Posted: 2/28/2021 3:52:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What do you do then, after accomplishing nothing but pissing the dog off even more? |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 3:58:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's probably best that I don't. I don't need to see that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I am not watching that. I watched it, youre the smart one |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 4:00:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Don't kick it like a bitch? It's a fucking dog. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What do you do then, after accomplishing nothing but pissing the dog off even more? Good luck with that brilliant plan. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 4:03:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good luck with that brilliant plan. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What do you do then, aft toer accomplishing nothing but pissing the dog off even more? Good luck with that brilliant plan. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 4:05:47 AM EDT
[#10]
Holy fuck, what a god damn fucking tool.
But she is white so I bet this doesn't get any traction. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 4:07:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good luck with that brilliant plan. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What do you do then, after accomplishing nothing but pissing the dog off even more? Good luck with that brilliant plan. I just think if someone can't handle a dog they shouldn't be an officer handling people. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 4:09:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. I'm amazed how many cops seem to think that a golden retriever or such is a deadly threat that requires going to guns. Ok for them to use K9's as well. Another dumb double standard. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 4:14:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just think if someone can't handle a dog they shouldn't be an officer handling people. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: What do you do then, after accomplishing nothing but pissing the dog off even more? Good luck with that brilliant plan. I just think if someone can't handle a dog they shouldn't be an officer handling people. My point is kicking a dog is a horrible plan if that's where it ends. Kicking it is going to do one of two things, either make it rethink it's plan or massively piss it off and put it into full blown fight mode. If it's already aggressively defending its territory or 'pack' then the latter is FAR more likely. An actual dog attack is extremely fast and violent. I would sooner take on the most violent, whacked out meth head than a pissed off GSD. Even if you land a solid kick to the head it isn't likely to take the dog out of commission... and that is a VERY big if. With just your hands it's going to be a bad day. Anything you throw at it is probably going to get torn to shreds. A dog also doesn't understand that you're just trying to restrain it, not kill it, so any attempt to control it is going to ramp up its aggression. I'm fine with shooting a violent dog attacking someone but if people are around you have to find a way to control it and direct it to an area you can safely get the shot off. Sometimes you just have to take the bite. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 4:15:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok for them to use K9's as well. Another dumb double standard. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This. I'm amazed how many cops seem to think that a golden retriever or such is a deadly threat that requires going to guns. Ok for them to use K9's as well. Another dumb double standard.  You never cease to amaze.
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Posted: 2/28/2021 4:18:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Millions of packages get delivered every day by ups, fedex, usps, and yet not one dog gets shot. Why law enforcement feels they have to is beyond me. Because they can do it without fear of legal repercussion. It really is that simple. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 4:19:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because they can do it without fear of repercussion. It really is that simple. Yep. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 4:22:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wiki link about shooting I didn't watch the video, but what a massive cluster fuck all around. So an adult couple is fighting to the point the cops are called. Retard cop kills her by mistake. During the video, Hill said to his partner "Oh, my God, no! Oh, fuck, Tim! Shit, Tim! I'm fucking going to prison, Tim!" And then he's more concerned about how he's going to prison than he is that he just killed someone, which he doesn't even end up being charged? Okay... |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 4:23:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2015 on the video. Iowa News says it's over, her family gets $2 million and Ofc. Jesse Hill goes back to work in Burlington Iowa. She had just spent the night in jail over a domestic dispute with her husband. Ofc. Hill was escorting her to pick up some things at the house since she was not to have contact with her husband. She started beating on the husband as Ofc. Hill tries to break it up and the dog jumps on him. IMO, he is one of those guys scared of dogs and he shoots at dog hitting her and she dies. That is the whole story. OP tries to get people riled up on police shooting a civilian when the story is much broader than that. It's play stupid games, win stupid prizes sort of thing. All in all, a big dose of the juice would have been better than gun fire, that is my living room judgement in my lazy boy chair sort of thing. It’s really weird that you took the time to type all that out as if to excuse the shooting. It doesn’t. Doesn’t matter if the victim was crazy. The police have to control their own emotions and actions. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 4:29:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good Shot? at least he gets to go home safely  "Oh My God, I am going to prison" I shot the dog, but it was her....... It's a hard and thankless job, but FUCK HIM. over a minute and a half between shots fired and even starting to check her, all the while worrying about himself and explaining himself......... |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 4:29:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I watched the first 30 seconds or so and wasn't too bad. WTF though. Stupid fucking cop shot the woman instead of the dog. Should be held just as accountable for it as anybody else in society.  |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 4:32:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/28/2021 4:33:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: <snip> Hope he suffers the rest of his life with guilt and does the needful |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 4:34:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You never cease to amaze. Police often use K9's on non violent criminals. It doesnt = deadly force when they use one, but homies chihuahua runs out of the front door barking at a cop and its good shoot, them dogs pose a deadly threat. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 4:43:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh my goodness. That was the stupidest fucking thing that cop could have done. There were three people that could have been his backstop...a little boy included. Something to be said about a good knife and some OC... I have been attacked by a pit, once, while not on duty. She got me good. While on the job, I have been nipped at by pits, been charged by pits, had my boot bitten by a pit and even punctured a hole in it. I have never once thought of discharging my fucking pistol because of a dog. I am a dog person, but I hate pitbulls. Even still, it would have to be a significant mauling, and I would have to be on the losing end, before I would even consider it. I am not saying this because I'm some Chuck Norris, bad ass fucker. I'm not. I am saying this because I know one very simple thing, it is very easy to discharge a bullet. It is impossible to recall it once it's shot. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 4:51:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: She was probably shot in the breast. That is the only place they didnt check. The clearly avoided looking under her bra, which is understandable. Imo if a woman is shot a bleed check is going to happen and the bra is coming off. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 5:03:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wtf is even going on there? He jogs over, she yells something like “got my kid” and the cop says “get your dog” then he pops her. Just conjecture here, but I would think that he had his gun out, finger on the trigger as he ran over, and accidentally shot her. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 5:05:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am not watching that. FPNI |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 6:01:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow. That guy is going to have some serious mental issues. Same for the woman he shot. Oh, I forgot, she bled out carping blood in front of her little boy. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 6:06:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just conjecture here, but I would think that he had his gun out, finger on the trigger as he ran over, and accidentally shot her. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wtf is even going on there? He jogs over, she yells something like “got my kid” and the cop says “get your dog” then he pops her. Just conjecture here, but I would think that he had his gun out, finger on the trigger as he ran over, and accidentally shot her. An accident would be one round. That was a double tap. He may have accidentally shot the woman while attempting to shoot the attacking dog, but a double is no accident. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 6:19:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wow. That guy is going to have some serious mental issues. The poor guy. Maybe he'll get a lifetime of tax-free disability retirement like the guy who murdered Daniel Shaver while he begged for his life. It's important that we take care of our brave officers after they kill innocent people. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 6:33:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Long time ago we had a cop near here accidentally shoot a 5 year old in the head while he was trying to shoot a snake out of a birdhouse. Im sure some of you old timers remember that thread. Dead kids dad joined Arfcom to tell his side of the story. Cop was shown quite a bit of leniency. Did they put the dad on their GD cop hater list? |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 8:07:52 AM EDT
[#32]
One of the reasons I've never shot a dog, plus I like dogs. I'll go hands on first , if necessary.
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Posted: 2/28/2021 8:41:45 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Just oh my God. This might be a fuck up that's so bad one should just eat their glock then and there. I couldn't imagine... |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 8:46:08 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/28/2021 8:50:39 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Millions of packages get delivered every day by ups, fedex, usps, and yet not one dog gets shot. Why law enforcement feels they have to is beyond me. Delivery companies can hold your package at the nearest customer counter instead of attempting delivery if your dog is running free. Police officers do not have the option to ignore a call because there's a dog in the yard, and the dog reacts to the stress level of everyone present. Kharn |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 8:53:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am not watching that. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 8:56:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy fuck, what a god damn fucking tool. But she is white so I bet this doesn't get any traction. It happened 6 years ago. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 8:58:29 AM EDT
[#38]
DLM.
Seriously though, seems like a lot of trouble could be avoided if cops could learn to deal with little dogs a bit better. At least non pit dogs. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 10:05:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It happened 6 years ago. Looks like the video has only been available since '18. 2 years and no traction in the media......I wonder why? Reverse the races and....... |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 10:12:01 AM EDT
[#40]
How do you shoot down at a dog and end up hitting a human in the chest?
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Posted: 2/28/2021 10:21:48 AM EDT
[#41]
Oh well.
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Posted: 2/28/2021 10:29:23 AM EDT
[#42]
Where the hell did she even get hit? No visible bullet holes anywhere that would drop her that quick, it seems from the video. Really weird.
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Posted: 2/28/2021 11:40:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Police often use K9's on non violent criminals. It doesnt = deadly force when they use one, but homies chihuahua runs out of the front door barking at a cop and its good shoot, them dogs pose a deadly threat. that sir is a good point and would make a great argument in court. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 11:42:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Police often use K9's on non violent criminals. It doesnt = deadly force when they use one, but homies chihuahua runs out of the front door barking at a cop and its good shoot, them dogs pose a deadly threat. that sir is a good point and food for thought |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 11:42:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Police often use K9's on non violent criminals. It doesnt = deadly force when they use one, but homies chihuahua runs out of the front door barking at a cop and its good shoot, them dogs pose a deadly threat. that sir is a good point and food for thought |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 11:49:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Police often use K9's on non violent criminals. It doesnt = deadly force when they use one, but homies chihuahua runs out of the front door barking at a cop and its good shoot, them dogs pose a deadly threat. Cops, and their dogs, are simply a higher class of person and dog than us non-citizen warfighter homeland battlefield protector pieces of shit. We should be lucky they let us occupy the same space as them and any time we interact that doesn't end in our deaths we should heap praise and thanks on them. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 11:52:08 AM EDT
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Police use apprehension K-9’s on all sorts of people in all sorts of situations including violent aggressive people.
Shoot one and the full weight of the TBL and Dog Lovers United comes down on you like a ton of bricks. The strategy that I’ve decided to employ for the rest of my life is avoid this armed gang of thugs as much as possible under any and all circumstances. They are not your friend and as this woman found out-are often deadly when encountered. ETA: that said I’ll be around several this morning in Church. 
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Posted: 2/28/2021 12:15:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cops, and their dogs, are simply a higher class of person and dog than us non-citizen warfighter homeland battlefield protector pieces of shit. We should be lucky they let us occupy the same space as them and any time we interact that doesn't end in our deaths we should heap praise and thanks on them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Police often use K9's on non violent criminals. It doesnt = deadly force when they use one, but homies chihuahua runs out of the front door barking at a cop and its good shoot, them dogs pose a deadly threat. Cops, and their dogs, are simply a higher class of person and dog than us non-citizen warfighter homeland battlefield protector pieces of shit. We should be lucky they let us occupy the same space as them and any time we interact that doesn't end in our deaths we should heap praise and thanks on them. You better God damn well be polite to them! And if you are in TX never walk on the street as that is a god damn crime. 
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Posted: 2/28/2021 12:55:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You better God damn well be polite to them! And if you are in TX never walk on the street as that is a god damn crime. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Police often use K9's on non violent criminals. It doesnt = deadly force when they use one, but homies chihuahua runs out of the front door barking at a cop and its good shoot, them dogs pose a deadly threat. Cops, and their dogs, are simply a higher class of person and dog than us non-citizen warfighter homeland battlefield protector pieces of shit. We should be lucky they let us occupy the same space as them and any time we interact that doesn't end in our deaths we should heap praise and thanks on them. You better God damn well be polite to them! And if you are in TX never walk on the street as that is a god damn crime. Once this is widely understood we'll all be a lot better off. There's a guy walking in the street over there. We're just gonna go see if he's ok. Hey buddy you ok? -Me? Yeah why? Well you were walking over there and it just seemed a little suspicious to me. Where you going? -Home. Where you coming from? -Work. You been doing any drinking tonight? I think I might smell a little alcohol and you were kinda staggering back there. -What are you talking about? No I haven't been drinking. I just told you I'm walking home from work. Why are you even stopping me? What's going on? Whoa buddy easy we're just talking. Do you need an ambulance? -No I need you to leave me alone. What's in the backpack? Mind if I search it for my safety? Make sure you don't have any guns, knives, swords, bombs? -Yes I mind. No you can't search my backpack for no reason. Easy buddy. Why don't you just sit on the curb over here. *gets cuffs and reaches for "suspect's" wrist* You're not under arrest you're just being detained for my safety and yours. -No man! Get away from me! *Tased, tackled, arrested for nothing else but resisting arrest* Watched it happen on LivePD every week. |
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Posted: 2/28/2021 1:00:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1% according to the can [looking at it right now] but it ate the entire can in it's mouth and face. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: 2015 on the video. Iowa News says it's over, her family gets $2 million and Ofc. Jesse Hill goes back to work in Burlington Iowa. She had just spent the night in jail over a domestic dispute with her husband. Ofc. Hill was escorting her to pick up some things at the house since she was not to have contact with her husband. She started beating on the husband as Ofc. Hill tries to break it up and the dog jumps on him. IMO, he is one of those guys scared of dogs and he shoots at dog hitting her and she dies. That is the whole story. OP tries to get people riled up on police shooting a civilian when the story is much broader than that. It's play stupid games, win stupid prizes sort of thing. All in all, a big dose of the juice would have been better than gun fire, that is my living room judgement in my lazy boy chair sort of thing. Yeah, I didn't realize it was that old but if the dog went after him, hell, it wasn't some cujo dog and a kick or two would have been enough. [and yes, I've been attacked by dogs before including a police dog, that dog ate a can + of Halt, it had a orange head when I was done. PD got their ass chewed by my boss who could quote Mi state dog laws verbatim. [dog was chained to dog house which was not secured to the ground and he wasn't having any issues dragging it after him, after that they mandated kennels if the dog was outside] When I worked for DTE they issued us Halt. That stuff is only 0.3% active ingredient, it's extremely weak.. More then once I've emptied a entire can of Halt on a dog and then ended up throwing the empty can at the dog. After I bought some 10% spray I never again had that issue.  1% according to the can [looking at it right now] but it ate the entire can in it's mouth and face. Apparently they have upgraded. This is what they handed out when I worked there. It was basically a can of tabasco.  Attached File |
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