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Posted: 2/3/2024 3:56:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah I honestly don't get the hype around Buffalo Trace. 50% of the stores I walk into now and then have it on the shelf too...I don't find it that hard to come by. that's nice, BT doesn't make it to the shelf in PA. You have to ask for it from behind the counter the day it is delivered & store employees divert cases of Eagle Rare, Weller etc into their own trunks to resell before John Q. Public has a chance to purchase. |
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Posted: 2/3/2024 4:10:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: that's nice, BT doesn't make it to the shelf in PA. You have to ask for it from behind the counter the day it is delivered & store employees divert cases of Eagle Rare, Weller etc into their own trunks to resell before John Q. Public has a chance to purchase. At a liquor store yesterday an employee actually said I should just order BT and ER online (out of state)! So if the employees are suggesting breaking the law to get what I'm looking for...maybe that suggests the system is broken?? ????? |
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Posted: 2/3/2024 9:22:29 PM EST
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Thoughts on Old Rip Wheeler? Is it like a generic/bottom shelf Pappy???
The local bourbon FB group must have done a group buy because everyone is flashing pics of their bottle. Thanks |
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Posted: 2/3/2024 9:26:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The conspiracy that is real is a bunch of meat donut, mouthflapping hipsters are driving demand and creating artificial scarcity. Don't fall for it. I mean…the scarcity is real. The demand for these bottles is real. The only debate is if it is justified. |
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Posted: 2/5/2024 8:00:06 AM EST
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Figured out why no one commented on Traveler's...because it's not bourbon but instead celebrity low end Canadian whiskey.
Quick question...if a friend asks where you got a bottle...do we give them exact coordinates or is it customary to be vague and gotta guard the source even under threat of death?? ?? Just trying to figure out the bourbon drinkers code of ethics. Thanks! |
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Posted: 2/5/2024 8:53:22 AM EST
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I don’t know how close to the NY border you are, but I can pretty much find Buffalo Trace at every liquor store here. I had no idea there were people in other places chasing it.
Come to NY for less government control. Wow, that felt weird to say. |
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Posted: 2/5/2024 9:25:14 AM EST
[#7]
I live in Kentucky and just called a few stores, they have 750ml Buffalo Trace for $34.
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Posted: 2/5/2024 10:12:45 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I live in Kentucky and just called a few stores, they have 750ml Buffalo Trace for $34. Retail price is $25 |
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Posted: 2/5/2024 12:13:29 PM EST
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If you are just buying for guests at your in house bar then having a few samplings is one thing.
If you like bourbon you don't need to go to all the crazy hunting stuff. There is a lot of good bourbon out there. Find a local store with a good selection and buy all your stuff from there. Get to know them. They can point you to a lot of different things to try and you will find great stuff at all price points. The key is having a guide who knows what you like to help point you to the right stuff. Its a fun process. I have stuff that goes under my bar in the cabinet for guests for mixing...and stuff on top that is for sipping. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 10:59:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Retail price is $25 Quote HistoryQuoted: Retail price is $25 pa state stores charge full msrp which is $29.99 for a 750ml, $55 for the 1.75L. Not sure how much 350s and 1Ls go for because the state stores don't get them. it's great when you can catch a blantons for $72 out the door but most shelfers are higher than everywhere else because there's no competition. Quoted: At a liquor store yesterday an employee actually said I should just order BT and ER online (out of state)! So if the employees are suggesting breaking the law to get what I'm looking for...maybe that suggests the system is broken?? ????? I am happy to help you find BT at retail, the last drop was the week of the 14th, so if deliveries are every 4-6 weeks you should check your local premium collection store next week through the end of the month. be there whatever day they get their deliveries, if you work 9-5 everything will be gone by the time you get there on the way home. Once you score, you will know when to be there & when not to. |
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Posted: 2/7/2024 11:24:15 PM EST
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Quoted: each store in my area has different days. Pay attention to what's dropping on early in the week and that's a good indication of what's dropping at the end of the week. Find out who does a Saturday release, get up early, and go stand in line. You can learn a lot by just talking to people in line. And don't be afraid to try the stuff that's always on the shelf. I have a bottle that cost $99 and a bottle that cost $14. These pics are a few months old, but it's all been acquired in the last 12 months.  
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Posted: 2/7/2024 11:37:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rum > Bourbon Thank me! /Thread 
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Posted: 2/7/2024 11:44:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your win streak may be ending. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/402701/IMG_0105-3112851.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I like to come into bourbon threads just to win them and leave  https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/421435/9555E986-4A59-4F94-BD4B-D40C1B14F5AD_jpe-3112848.JPG Your win streak may be ending. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/402701/IMG_0105-3112851.jpg 
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Posted: 2/8/2024 8:04:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pay attention to what's dropping on early in the week and that's a good indication of what's dropping at the end of the week. Find out who does a Saturday release, get up early, and go stand in line. You can learn a lot by just talking to people in line. And don't be afraid to try the stuff that's always on the shelf. I have a bottle that cost $99 and a bottle that cost $14. These pics are a few months old, but it's all been acquired in the last 12 months. https://i.imgur.com/ZI2lKOg.jpg https://i.imgur.com/xXE2kBg.jpg That's impressive. I just built a bar with three shelves and I'm thinking bourbon is going to cannibalize the others if I allow it to. But that's an impressive collection. I need to diversify like that. As for following what drops, that's pointless in this state. Across the border in Jersy not so much....I nailed a bottle last week that way. Thanks |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 8:32:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
I just built a bar with three shelves and I'm thinking bourbon is going to cannibalize the others if I allow it to. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 8:43:40 AM EST
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Someone I know, who has collected spirits for a dozen years, recently decided to divest himself of a few bottles he owned multiples of. They included:
Blantons, EH Taylor Small Batch, Weller 12, Weller Antique 107, and Elmer T Lee. He is not internet savvy and asked his adult daughter for help in selling them. Within thirty minutes, she sold all five bottles by posting online.. Total take: $950.00. He was flabbergasted. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 11:08:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: pa state stores charge full msrp which is $29.99 for a 750ml, $55 for the 1.75L. Not sure how much 350s and 1Ls go for because the state stores don't get them. it's great when you can catch a blantons for $72 out the door but most shelfers are higher than everywhere else because there's no competition. I am happy to help you find BT at retail, the last drop was the week of the 14th, so if deliveries are every 4-6 weeks you should check your local premium collection store next week through the end of the month. be there whatever day they get their deliveries, if you work 9-5 everything will be gone by the time you get there on the way home. Once you score, you will know when to be there & when not to. I'm less concerned specifically about the BT at this point because I found someone willing to trade me one of my bottles for a handle of it. However, the other "allocated" stuff...even though it might not be worth the secondary market pricing, I would still like to have the experience of trying. So a bottle of ER and Blanton's... sure I would love to find that! But like you're saying, unless you line up outside the store...won't find it. And I was told by one store that people line up at 6am for a 9am opening on the day of delivery. I got all KINDS of squirrely responses when I tried asking HOW those people KNEW to be there! Again, prompted me to start this thread because it seems extremely bizarre when compared to every other liquor out there! Like you need to have inside sources, you need to hack systems to track truck routes and shipments, you need to grease someone's palm to withhold from shipments. Just not seen anywhere else in the world of alcohol. So yes, would love to know how I can snag msrp or lower for those....just to taste and have a bottle. I own/operate two businesses, so I have ZERO interest in neck-bearding bottles of hooch! Thanks!! |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 7:30:30 PM EST
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i said it before, tequila is my drink of choice. i can appreciate bourbon but i don;t chase it so i am happy to help you score.
  today was a huge online drop. there was a guy on reddit that provided some great info & insight who just deleted his account, the inventory numbers are for bots/scrapers: [deleted]·2 days ago Next week: WLW (75 - 57/18, last year 72/24), ER17 (21 - 16/5, last year 16/5), GTS (177 - 133/44, last year 111/36), Saz18 (21 - 16/5, last year 14/4), THH (219 - 165/54, last year 149/49), ORVW (282 - 212/70, last year 237/78), Lot B (798 - 599/199, last year 599/199), VWFRR (69 - 52/17, last year 52/17), PVW15 (90 - 68/22, last year 86/28), PVW20 (no details yet, last year 81/27), PVW23 (36 - 27/9, last year 27/9). Overall numbers not much different and low...May the odds be ever in your favor. I assume this will take them till after Easter to close. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 7:32:17 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Buffalo Trace is a good daily sipper but it's not worth that hassle. Move on to something more readily available. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 7:45:10 PM EST
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pay attention to what's dropping on early in the week and that's a good indication of what's dropping at the end of the week. Find out who does a Saturday release, get up early, and go stand in line. You can learn a lot by just talking to people in line. And don't be afraid to try the stuff that's always on the shelf. I have a bottle that cost $99 and a bottle that cost $14. These pics are a few months old, but it's all been acquired in the last 12 months. How is Smokewagon? I was at my local honey hole the other day he had about 8 different variations of it. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 7:46:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i said it before, tequila is my drink of choice. i can appreciate bourbon but i don;t chase it so i am happy to help you score. https://i.ibb.co/n6Kc99t/IMG-20230910-135337.jpg https://i.ibb.co/HPwqWtZ/IMG-20230910-122152.jpg today was a huge online drop. there was a guy on reddit that provided some great info & insight who just deleted his account, the inventory numbers are for bots/scrapers: [deleted]·2 days ago Next week: WLW (75 - 57/18, last year 72/24), ER17 (21 - 16/5, last year 16/5), GTS (177 - 133/44, last year 111/36), Saz18 (21 - 16/5, last year 14/4), THH (219 - 165/54, last year 149/49), ORVW (282 - 212/70, last year 237/78), Lot B (798 - 599/199, last year 599/199), VWFRR (69 - 52/17, last year 52/17), PVW15 (90 - 68/22, last year 86/28), PVW20 (no details yet, last year 81/27), PVW23 (36 - 27/9, last year 27/9). Overall numbers not much different and low...May the odds be ever in your favor. I assume this will take them till after Easter to close. $160 for Blanton's and Fortaleza? Seems like a great deal! |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 9:39:26 PM EST
[#22]
Tried buffalo trace tonight, tried Rebel wheat, tried Makers....favorite by far was Evan Williams Honey. I believe this means I'm not into bourbon!
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Posted: 2/8/2024 9:47:05 PM EST
[#23]
Bourbon people are like car people.
Spend all this money on something and never use it. At least their wives are still virgins |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:12:06 PM EST
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Buffalo Trace is very hard to find around here also. Occasionally stores will get a shipment and they fly off the shelves within hours.
I think the best way to score a bottle is to join a local Bourbon Club, like on facebook. Because there are people in those clubs that visit liquor stores every morning as a hobby looking for rare bourbons to show up… And after they get their bottle, they’ll make a post with a photo of the bottle(s) and location. Then other members will start posting OTW….. OTW…… OTW…. Got a bottle…. Got a bottle…. Got a bottle….. And within an hour or two someone will finally reply “dang they’re out”. ?? So I LOVE Buffalo Trace because I think its a well balanced Bourbon. And its between $30-$50 a bottle depending on the size. But it’s not a bourbon that I would let myself get price gauged for…. Or drive clear across town in the middle of a rain storm for. |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 10:12:39 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Bourbon people are like car people. Spend all this money on something and never use it. At least their wives are still virgins Well mine's a swinger so I guess that's more proof I'm not into bourbon! ?? |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 11:02:20 PM EST
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How is Smokewagon? I was at my local honey hole the other day he had about 8 different variations of it. I like it a lot, especially the Straight Bourbon at $30 a bottle. It's very good for that price. |
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Posted: 2/11/2024 5:58:18 AM EST
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Smokewagon is sourced from Indiana, meaning it's MGP distillate like 90% of the bottles sitting on the shelf most people never heard of.
Whether the label says Pinhook, Brother's Bond, Old Soul. Oak + Eden, Nulu, Penelope, Old Elk, High West, Smokewagon, Redemption, Nashville Barrel Co, etc they are all buying barrels from MGP. That's not to say MGP is'n t capable of making decent whiskey but you are not getting a small batch craft product like some of the labels would like you to believe, quite the opposite. |
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Posted: 2/11/2024 8:21:34 AM EST
[#28]
You have to wait in line during a special drop if you want Buffalo Trace around here.
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Posted: 2/12/2024 10:42:46 AM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How is Smokewagon? I was at my local honey hole the other day he had about 8 different variations of it. Smoke Wagon I believe comes in some different types Smoke Wagon Bourbon ($30) Smoke Wagon Small Batch Bourbon($50) Smoke Wagon Uncut Unfiltered Bourbon ($70) (also called UCUF) Smoke Wagon barrel picks ($70-100) Smoke Wagon Rye Whiskies (not familiar with the rye lineup) It's all MGP, meaning it's "sourced" whiskey from Lawrenceberg, Indiana made at the old Seagrams factory. The UCUF and Small Batch are both highly regarded. That being said, I had a Smoke Wagon barrel pick that was sublime at $100 / bottle and one that was just OK for the same price. |
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Posted: 2/12/2024 4:32:19 PM EST
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You have to wait in line during a special drop if you want Buffalo Trace around here. My local ABC store has Buffalo Trace just sitting on the shelf right now.... They got hundreds of 50ml bottles for the big "drop" a week ago. 1 per customer. Now the leftovers are sitting by the cash register with the other sad "allocated" whiskey that they include in the drops for marketing purposes (as opposed to scarcity due to demand). |
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Posted: 2/12/2024 6:12:55 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well mine's a swinger so I guess that's more proof I'm not into bourbon! ?? drop is this week. whatever day your store gets their deliveries, be there. |
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Posted: 2/12/2024 7:35:29 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: drop is this week. whatever day your store gets their deliveries, be there. What "drop"? Last week the blantons, eagle rare, and Buffalo trace came in. Is there a second round coming this week? Thanks |
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Posted: 2/12/2024 9:01:45 PM EST
[#33]
lancaster, chester, exton, eagleview, paoli, wayne all got their shipment today.
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Posted: 2/12/2024 9:11:14 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: lancaster, chester, exton, eagleview, paoli, wayne all got their shipment today. Oh ok. Yeah ours was last week. How'd you find out? I saw it in a fb group but 20min after it was shared the blantons was gone. |
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Posted: 2/13/2024 5:54:38 PM EST
[#35]
Here's one that doesn't make sense to me...
Elijah Craig 18yr - $199.99 - 18 years in the barrel -full shelf of it locally for quite a while -not allocated Buffalo Trace bourbons are allocated, significantly cheaper all day, not aged close to 18yrs (mostly), and people line up for them. Make it make sense. Thanks! |
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Posted: 2/13/2024 6:05:13 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's one that doesn't make sense to me... Elijah Craig 18yr - $199.99 - 18 years in the barrel -full shelf of it locally for quite a while -not allocated Buffalo Trace bourbons are allocated, significantly cheaper all day, not aged close to 18yrs (mostly), and people line up for them. Make it make sense. Thanks! EC-18 is good stuff, but not a lot of people will jump into $200+ per bottle for a drinker, and there's not nearly as much secondary demand for that bottle compared to anything BT. Now if it was certain releases of EC barrel proof that got really high reviews, those probably get scooped up fast be cause they're reasonable MSRP ($80) and there is more secondary demand that interests the resellers. The mid market BT products that MSRP between $50-125 or so are really the sweet spot for amateur resellers because their MSRP is manageable for most to through down on a whim, and demand is so high they're basically guaranteed to sell it fast for a profit. Compared to something like EC-18, that has a higher cost of investment and with less demand, you might only get an extra $50-100 markup on it and you might be sitting on it a while until a buyer comes along because it's just not a sought after. |
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Posted: 2/13/2024 6:11:00 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like it a lot, especially the Straight Bourbon at $30 a bottle. It's very good for that price. Correct, it’s like Eagle Rare about 7yrs ago. It’s my ‘cheap’ go-to now. |
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Posted: 2/13/2024 6:17:36 PM EST
[#38]
I might would consider that 18 year old EC to be honest. Maybe. But not for you OP. There just isn’t much reason for you to be buying $200 bottles at this point in your hobby.
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Posted: 2/13/2024 6:40:25 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like to come into bourbon threads just to win them and leave https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/421435/9555E986-4A59-4F94-BD4B-D40C1B14F5AD_jpe-3112848.JPG  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 2/13/2024 6:43:33 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryAll of you guys have some nice collections. Shall I post mine? |
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Posted: 2/13/2024 6:48:40 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's one that doesn't make sense to me... Elijah Craig 18yr - $199.99 - 18 years in the barrel -full shelf of it locally for quite a while -not allocated Buffalo Trace bourbons are allocated, significantly cheaper all day, not aged close to 18yrs (mostly), and people line up for them. Make it make sense. Thanks! That price is $40 over retail, which may account for why it’s still on the shelf there. |
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Posted: 2/13/2024 8:06:15 PM EST
[#42]
Pa is having their Bourbon lottery. I think there are 2 more days to enter.also, which part of Pennsylvania are you?… I might have a go to place for Buffalo Trace.
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Posted: 2/13/2024 8:11:46 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pa is having their Bourbon lottery. I think there are 2 more days to enter.also, which part of Pennsylvania are you?… I might have a go to place for Buffalo Trace. Already registered. And Lehigh Valley area. Thanks |
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Posted: 2/13/2024 8:30:48 PM EST
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Posted: 2/13/2024 8:40:12 PM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/191077/IMG_8885_jpeg-3128320.JPG The Ma Duece isn’t mine unfortunately. You own dozens of barrels of bourbon?? |
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Posted: 2/13/2024 8:40:58 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You own dozens of barrels of bourbon?? Dozens? Each row you see is five deep. In that pic. Now you know the true power of ARFcom. 
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Posted: 2/14/2024 12:04:36 AM EST
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You own dozens of barrels of bourbon?? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/191077/IMG_8885_jpeg-3128320.JPG The Ma Duece isn’t mine unfortunately. You own dozens of barrels of bourbon?? ARs, machetes, burbon... ARFCOM has it all stacked deep.
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Posted: 2/14/2024 12:58:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dozens? Each row you see is five deep. In that pic. Now you know the true power of ARFcom. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You own dozens of barrels of bourbon?? Dozens? Each row you see is five deep. In that pic. Now you know the true power of ARFcom. Friggin sweeeet!!! |
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Posted: 2/14/2024 1:10:16 PM EST
[#49]
I found a Bakers 7 in the wild last night....
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Posted: 2/14/2024 3:52:08 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Friggin sweeeet!!! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You own dozens of barrels of bourbon?? Dozens? Each row you see is five deep. In that pic. Now you know the true power of ARFcom. Friggin sweeeet!!! I'm still confused. Is this guy Pappy's grandson or something?? |
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