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Posted: 8/14/2021 10:22:14 AM EDT
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i give atf maybe 7 days.
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Posted: 8/14/2021 10:22:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Today the flavor of the month is a trigger….tomorrow will be a magazine, or BCG, or night vision, body armor, etc… Fuck them By the time they get to the guys that kill things at 1000 yds, there will be no one left to stand with them. |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 10:27:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I keep seeing references to Orwell's 1984, but another good book you should all read if you haven't already is Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. Speaking of the mass arrests that totalitarians are so fond of: "And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you'd be cracking the skull of a cutthroat." Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 19181956 Yep, how many warnings have we had throughout history? And how many have we ignored? Sad (pathetic) thing is, unlike many of them, we had the opportunity to prevent it from happening. The Founders gave us the ability to change leadership peacefully, and a Constitution to hold them accountable to. Reelecting almost 90% of the same ones screwing us over and over will work out in the long run though... |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 10:40:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, how many warnings have we had throughout history? And how many have we ignored?.. Those who study history are doomed to watch those who do not study history repeat it. |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 10:42:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Those who study history are doomed to watch those who do not study history repeat it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yep, how many warnings have we had throughout history? And how many have we ignored?.. Those who study history are doomed to watch those who do not study history repeat it. Yep.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 10:52:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: By the time they get to the guys that kill things at 1000 yds, there will be no one left to stand with them. The thousand yard idiots forget that snipers have a spotter with them with a rifle better suited to close range work. |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 11:06:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I recently received much abuse and an account warning for replying to said abuse, because I postulated that cash and carry suppressors would have negative long term effects for gun owners. Not that I opposed them, just that I thought the potential for it to bite us all on the dick was there. Arfcom GD is rarely any more coherent than AOC after closing the bar and slurring about carbon emissions. For the record, fuck the ATF, GCA, NFA, all the Bidens, all the Clintons, Bush Sr, et al. Us? What's this us shit? Oh...That's because you have a smol peepee. Gonna need jaws to bite mine.  @PraesidiumFabrica @WhiskersTheCat @beitodesstrafe |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 11:14:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Us? What's this us shit? Oh...That's because you have a smol peepee. Gonna need jaws to bite mine. https://kubrick.htvapps.com/htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws.com/images/hypatia-h-ca5f44265d4fb5b864ad6afc934cadee-h-201a23bb9d60f4ec20b36fd0f821dc03-1627926585.jpg @PraesidiumFabrica @WhiskersTheCat @beitodesstrafe Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I recently received much abuse and an account warning for replying to said abuse, because I postulated that cash and carry suppressors would have negative long term effects for gun owners. Not that I opposed them, just that I thought the potential for it to bite us all on the dick was there. Arfcom GD is rarely any more coherent than AOC after closing the bar and slurring about carbon emissions. For the record, fuck the ATF, GCA, NFA, all the Bidens, all the Clintons, Bush Sr, et al. Us? What's this us shit? Oh...That's because you have a smol peepee. Gonna need jaws to bite mine. https://kubrick.htvapps.com/htv-prod-media.s3.amazonaws.com/images/hypatia-h-ca5f44265d4fb5b864ad6afc934cadee-h-201a23bb9d60f4ec20b36fd0f821dc03-1627926585.jpg @PraesidiumFabrica @WhiskersTheCat @beitodesstrafe TAXATION IS THEFT ALL GUN LAWS ARE INHERENTLY IMMORAL |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 11:21:27 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/14/2021 11:26:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: TAXATION IS THEFT ALL GUN LAWS ARE INHERENTLY IMMORAL Unconstitutional. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Yet. There's roller faggot from Hyde Park that saw to it that Inalienable right is arbitrary privilege. Note the recurring theme throughout history... Rights reduced to mere privileges and more and more so, everyone's like. iM oKaY wItH tHiS bEcAuSe ThE tV/rAdIo SaYs cRiMiNaLs WiLL sEeK tHeM! So make everyone a criminal, despite they can use said things in a responsible non harmful/threatening manner... Muh Patriot actz too... Why is it the older this country gets... the dumber? How, where did feelz > logic and rights? |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 11:29:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i give atf maybe 7 days. raid on rare breed. warrant for files forced on big daddy. 
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Posted: 8/14/2021 11:48:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Um, I don't want to sound like an idiot, but can somebody translate this? Who's winning here? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: From the hearing Friday morning: https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/41240969/Rare_Breed_Triggers,_LLC,_a_Florida_Limited_Liability_Company_et_al_v_Garland_et_al?fbclid=IwAR0f1ztzAf398xwnkMHA288VZ3IZ_LKZf3MgaGGNoauRM_j3XSei9DJnRKs Friday, August 13, 2021 25order *Order no pdf Fri 08/13 5:43 PM ENDORSED ORDER granting Plaintiffs' ore tenus Motion to Amend Complaint. On or before August 27, 2021, at 2:00 PM, Plaintiffs may file an Amended Complaint. The Preliminary Injunction Hearing scheduled for August 18, 2021, and all associated deadlines, are cancelled. On or before September 10, 2021, Defendants may file a Response to Plaintiffs' Motion for Preliminary Injunction (Doc. 2). Signed by Judge Carlos E. Mendoza on 8/13/2021. (KMS) 24order Order on Motion in Limine Order on Motion to Appear Telephonically Fri 08/13 2:22 PM ENDORSED ORDER denying as moot 18 Defendants' Opposed Time-Sensitive Motion in Limine, 19 Defendants' Unopposed Time-Sensitive Motion to Appear Virtually. Signed by Judge Carlos E. Mendoza on 8/13/2021. (KMS) 23notice Notice canceling hearing Fri 08/13 10:26 AM NOTICE canceling Evidentiary Hearing hearing scheduled for 08/18/2021. (MEH) 22 1 pgs minutes Telephone Conference Fri 08/13 10:24 AM Minute Entry. Telephonic Proceedings held before Judge Carlos E. Mendoza: TELEPHONE CONFERENCE held on 8/13/2021. Court Reporter: Suzanne L. Trimble (MEH) 21 respm Response in Opposition to Motion Fri 08/13 9:44 AM RESPONSE in Opposition re18 MOTION In Limine (TIME SENSITIVE) to Limit Evidence at Hearing on Plaintiffs' Emergency Motion for Preliminary Injunction filed by Kevin C. Maxwell, Rare Breed Triggers, LLC.(Maxwell, Kevin) Att: 1 2 pgs Exhibit, Att: 2 Exhibit Um, I don't want to sound like an idiot, but can somebody translate this? Who's winning here? Yeah. Please. Who speaks legaleze?!? |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 11:51:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unconstitutional. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Yet. There's roller faggot from Hyde Park that saw to it that Inalienable right is arbitrary privilege. Note the recurring theme throughout history... Rights reduced to mere privileges and more and more so, everyone's like. iM oKaY wItH tHiS bEcAuSe ThE tV/rAdIo SaYs cRiMiNaLs WiLL sEeK tHeM! So make everyone a criminal, despite they can use said things in a responsible non harmful/threatening manner... Muh Patriot actz too... Why is it the older this country gets... the dumber? How, where did feelz > logic and rights? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: TAXATION IS THEFT ALL GUN LAWS ARE INHERENTLY IMMORAL Unconstitutional. The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Yet. There's roller faggot from Hyde Park that saw to it that Inalienable right is arbitrary privilege. Note the recurring theme throughout history... Rights reduced to mere privileges and more and more so, everyone's like. iM oKaY wItH tHiS bEcAuSe ThE tV/rAdIo SaYs cRiMiNaLs WiLL sEeK tHeM! So make everyone a criminal, despite they can use said things in a responsible non harmful/threatening manner... Muh Patriot actz too... Why is it the older this country gets... the dumber? How, where did feelz > logic and rights? The longer time goes on, the harder I lean into the "AN" of my ancap. |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 11:56:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: i give atf maybe 7 days. raid on rare breed. warrant for files forced on big daddy. https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/638404b/2147483647/strip/true/crop/3102x2318+0+0/resize/1486x1110!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F97%2F9e%2Fd7e73cac4621b75c6f9f3308a156%2Fatf-srt-1.jpg Hey nice Oboz there middle guy. Didn’t know my preferred hiking shoe is JBT approved. 
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Posted: 8/14/2021 1:26:23 PM EDT
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I read something like 10k were sold in here, but just finished MrGnG video and he claims 50k sold. Essentially, if this AFT ruling is upheld, all FRT owners are out 400$ish and are considered felons until they turn in or demolish the trigger.
It would seem as if 50,000 owners are a big enough group to support a class-action lawsuit against the AFT. Even at $100/ea trigger owned, thats 5 million to fight. Suddenly making that many people felons is a mentally taxing allegation, and owners could also sue for their legal fees back as well, so the 100$ could be refunded. I'm not sure of the FTCA coverage of mental distress, but such a colossal screw-up could also help prevent the Manchild from being confirmed. Most people on here won't put their money where their mouth is, but this could be a legal fight worth standing behind. It seems as if Rare Breed has been planning for this and has some decent strategy. Nolo might be a good guy to step in as well. ETA: that's not to mention RB's motivation behind a strong defense. A potential fine of $400/trigger and losing all future business gives a grim future for RB if they lose. |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 1:31:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey nice Oboz there middle guy. Didn’t know my preferred hiking shoe is JBT approved. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: i give atf maybe 7 days. raid on rare breed. warrant for files forced on big daddy. https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/638404b/2147483647/strip/true/crop/3102x2318+0+0/resize/1486x1110!/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcalifornia-times-brightspot.s3.amazonaws.com%2F97%2F9e%2Fd7e73cac4621b75c6f9f3308a156%2Fatf-srt-1.jpg Hey nice Oboz there middle guy. Didn’t know my preferred hiking shoe is JBT approved. Does that traitor on the left have tennis racquet? |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 1:37:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: By the time they get to the guys that kill things at 1000 yds, there will be no one left to stand with them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Today the flavor of the month is a trigger….tomorrow will be a magazine, or BCG, or night vision, body armor, etc… Fuck them By the time they get to the guys that kill things at 1000 yds, there will be no one left to stand with them.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 1:38:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Or the AFT went to their credit card processor and asked them if they wanted to be charged with facilitating illegal MG transfers. It's bullshit, but card processors want no part of this. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So use an anonymous/independent currency....that you need to scan your DL AND link a bank account to. Ok, I'm going to need more details on why this is even a thing RBT-wise, possibly given the current situation.... Thanks My guess is to prevent charge backs if something more substantial comes along and people feel scammed.. Not to mention the Banks CC processors will bend over backwards for the Feds when asked. They switche to crypto to protect themselves, not people buying them. Crypto is very easy to track due to block chain transactions being public. Might also be trying to put funds out of reach of the normal banking system. The Feds could try freezing his bank accounts to make legal challenges harder. |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 1:42:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, how many warnings have we had throughout history? And how many have we ignored? Sad (pathetic) thing is, unlike many of them, we had the opportunity to prevent it from happening. The Founders gave us the ability to change leadership peacefully, and a Constitution to hold them accountable to. Reelecting almost 90% of the same ones screwing us over and over will work out in the long run though... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I keep seeing references to Orwell's 1984, but another good book you should all read if you haven't already is Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn. Speaking of the mass arrests that totalitarians are so fond of: "And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? After all, you knew ahead of time that those bluecaps were out at night for no good purpose. And you could be sure ahead of time that you'd be cracking the skull of a cutthroat." Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 19181956 Yep, how many warnings have we had throughout history? And how many have we ignored? Sad (pathetic) thing is, unlike many of them, we had the opportunity to prevent it from happening. The Founders gave us the ability to change leadership peacefully, and a Constitution to hold them accountable to. Reelecting almost 90% of the same ones screwing us over and over will work out in the long run though...  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 1:44:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep, how many warnings have we had throughout history? And how many have we ignored? Sad (pathetic) thing is, unlike many of them, we had the opportunity to prevent it from happening. The Founders gave us the ability to change leadership peacefully, and a Constitution to hold them accountable to. Reelecting almost 90% of the same ones screwing us over and over will work out in the long run though... Are we though? We cannot answer the question of how much of the government was elected by the people. |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 2:22:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I read something like 10k were sold in here, but just finished MrGnG video and he claims 50k sold. Essentially, if this AFT ruling is upheld, all FRT owners are out 400$ish and are considered felons until they turn in or demolish the trigger. It would seem as if 50,000 owners are a big enough group to support a class-action lawsuit against the AFT. Even at $100/ea trigger owned, thats 5 million to fight. Suddenly making that many people felons is a mentally taxing allegation, and owners could also sue for their legal fees back as well, so the 100$ could be refunded. I'm not sure of the FTCA coverage of mental distress, but such a colossal screw-up could also help prevent the Manchild from being confirmed. Most people on here won't put their money where their mouth is, but this could be a legal fight worth standing behind. It seems as if Rare Breed has been planning for this and has some decent strategy. Nolo might be a good guy to step in as well. ETA: that's not to mention RB's motivation behind a strong defense. A potential fine of $400/trigger and losing all future business gives a grim future for RB if they lose. I like where you’re going with this. I’m good for another $400 |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 3:11:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: i give atf maybe 7 days. raid on rare breed. warrant for files forced on big daddy.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 3:23:48 PM EDT
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Quote Historyif true, that's amazing |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 3:27:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: if true, that's amazing Quote HistoryQuoted: if true, that's amazing Lol no clue... someone posted it in a 300blkout group I'm in and thought it was awesome |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 3:34:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No. But I'm still happy I won't be hassled like the people who bought the FRT's. They looked like a ton of fun, and the last thing I need is for the government to take away yet another thing I enjoyed (like the good old days of drones circa 2015). So yeah. I'm happy as fuck I didn't drop hundreds of dollars on something that was so obviously going to be banned. Magazine fed semiautos have been legally bought and sold in the US ever since they were invented over a hundred years ago, so your comparison doesn't hold water. They are in "common use". The FRT is not. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When they put guns with a detachable magazine on the NFA are you gonna be happy that you never got one? No. But I'm still happy I won't be hassled like the people who bought the FRT's. They looked like a ton of fun, and the last thing I need is for the government to take away yet another thing I enjoyed (like the good old days of drones circa 2015). So yeah. I'm happy as fuck I didn't drop hundreds of dollars on something that was so obviously going to be banned. Magazine fed semiautos have been legally bought and sold in the US ever since they were invented over a hundred years ago, so your comparison doesn't hold water. They are in "common use". The FRT is not. You are what is wrong with this country |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 3:34:38 PM EDT
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Who knows if that was the actual intent or not at this point, but it certainly seems to be what’s going down. Spikes old industry account was pimping the triggers here when they came out .
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Posted: 8/14/2021 3:38:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I literally just received mine yesterday and it is still in the clamshell. How would I go about returning it? Just mail it back with tracking confirmation? @bravo_six I just received mine this week too, it is also still in the packaging. You can send me yours and I will destroy it when I destroy mine. |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 3:38:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are we though? We cannot answer the question of how much of the government was elected by the people. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yep, how many warnings have we had throughout history? And how many have we ignored? Sad (pathetic) thing is, unlike many of them, we had the opportunity to prevent it from happening. The Founders gave us the ability to change leadership peacefully, and a Constitution to hold them accountable to. Reelecting almost 90% of the same ones screwing us over and over will work out in the long run though... Are we though? We cannot answer the question of how much of the government was elected by the people. Yes ‘we’ are and have been for decades. There is no denying that Millions of People line up like cattle to vote for the McCain’s, McConnell’s, Biden’s, bush’s, Clintons, Romney’s, Reagan’s, Trump’s, Carter’s, Rubio’s, obamas etc of the world.. then they wonder why their are chains laid upon them and the government is so huge. The mind boggles |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 3:58:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: i give atf maybe 7 days. raid on rare breed. warrant for files forced on big daddy. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77724/FB_IMG_1628963243996_jpg-2052537.JPG 
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Posted: 8/14/2021 4:02:13 PM EDT
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Edited ~ medicmandan
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Posted: 8/14/2021 4:21:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Edited ~ medicmandan Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You are what is wrong with this country Edited ~ medicmandan Lolwut I'm not angry in the least, in fact I'm tickled fucking pink that I own one rather than being a powerless and gutless troll that does nothing about it when it really counts. Me? I put my money where my mouth is. You are just angry that I don't cower in fear and want someone to lash out at over your own insecurities. You should check out freedom sometime, we fought a war for it 2-300 years ago  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 4:23:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Edited ~ medicmandan Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You are what is wrong with this country Edited ~ medicmandan  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 4:24:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lolwut I'm not angry in the least, in fact I'm tickled fucking pink that I own one rather than being powerless and gutless troll that does nothing about it when it really counts. Me? I put my money where my mouth is. I don't cower in fear. You should check out freedom sometime, we fought a war for it 2-300 years ago https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77724/16289723028138589830496356704261_jpg-2052633.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: You are what is wrong with this country Edited ~ medicmandan Lolwut I'm not angry in the least, in fact I'm tickled fucking pink that I own one rather than being powerless and gutless troll that does nothing about it when it really counts. Me? I put my money where my mouth is. I don't cower in fear. You should check out freedom sometime, we fought a war for it 2-300 years ago https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77724/16289723028138589830496356704261_jpg-2052633.JPG You’re wasting your time… he’s apparently one of the ‘I kill thing at 1000yds’ types. |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 4:29:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You’re wasting your time… he’s apparently one of the ‘I kill thing at 1000yds’ types. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You are what is wrong with this country Edited ~ medicmandan Lolwut I'm not angry in the least, in fact I'm tickled fucking pink that I own one rather than being powerless and gutless troll that does nothing about it when it really counts. Me? I put my money where my mouth is. I don't cower in fear. You should check out freedom sometime, we fought a war for it 2-300 years ago https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77724/16289723028138589830496356704261_jpg-2052633.JPG You’re wasting your time… he’s apparently one of the ‘I kill thing at 1000yds’ types. Challenging government loyalists is never a waste of time |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 4:33:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I like where you’re going with this. I’m good for another $400 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I read something like 10k were sold in here, but just finished MrGnG video and he claims 50k sold. Essentially, if this AFT ruling is upheld, all FRT owners are out 400$ish and are considered felons until they turn in or demolish the trigger. It would seem as if 50,000 owners are a big enough group to support a class-action lawsuit against the AFT. Even at $100/ea trigger owned, thats 5 million to fight. Suddenly making that many people felons is a mentally taxing allegation, and owners could also sue for their legal fees back as well, so the 100$ could be refunded. I'm not sure of the FTCA coverage of mental distress, but such a colossal screw-up could also help prevent the Manchild from being confirmed. Most people on here won't put their money where their mouth is, but this could be a legal fight worth standing behind. It seems as if Rare Breed has been planning for this and has some decent strategy. Nolo might be a good guy to step in as well. ETA: that's not to mention RB's motivation behind a strong defense. A potential fine of $400/trigger and losing all future business gives a grim future for RB if they lose. I like where you’re going with this. I’m good for another $400 Had a similar thought last night. Someone start a 'go fund me'?... not sure how all that works, but I'm in if for nothing else than to participate in the fight in the courtroom. |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 4:44:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Had a similar thought last night. Someone start a 'go fund me'?... not sure how all that works, but I'm in if for nothing else than to participate in the fight in the courtroom. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I read something like 10k were sold in here, but just finished MrGnG video and he claims 50k sold. Essentially, if this AFT ruling is upheld, all FRT owners are out 400$ish and are considered felons until they turn in or demolish the trigger. It would seem as if 50,000 owners are a big enough group to support a class-action lawsuit against the AFT. Even at $100/ea trigger owned, thats 5 million to fight. Suddenly making that many people felons is a mentally taxing allegation, and owners could also sue for their legal fees back as well, so the 100$ could be refunded. I'm not sure of the FTCA coverage of mental distress, but such a colossal screw-up could also help prevent the Manchild from being confirmed. Most people on here won't put their money where their mouth is, but this could be a legal fight worth standing behind. It seems as if Rare Breed has been planning for this and has some decent strategy. Nolo might be a good guy to step in as well. ETA: that's not to mention RB's motivation behind a strong defense. A potential fine of $400/trigger and losing all future business gives a grim future for RB if they lose. I like where you’re going with this. I’m good for another $400 Had a similar thought last night. Someone start a 'go fund me'?... not sure how all that works, but I'm in if for nothing else than to participate in the fight in the courtroom. GFM has on several occasions shut down campaigns that run against the edicts of the crown |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 4:44:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Had a similar thought last night. Someone start a 'go fund me'?... not sure how all that works, but I'm in if for nothing else than to participate in the fight in the courtroom. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I read something like 10k were sold in here, but just finished MrGnG video and he claims 50k sold. Essentially, if this AFT ruling is upheld, all FRT owners are out 400$ish and are considered felons until they turn in or demolish the trigger. It would seem as if 50,000 owners are a big enough group to support a class-action lawsuit against the AFT. Even at $100/ea trigger owned, thats 5 million to fight. Suddenly making that many people felons is a mentally taxing allegation, and owners could also sue for their legal fees back as well, so the 100$ could be refunded. I'm not sure of the FTCA coverage of mental distress, but such a colossal screw-up could also help prevent the Manchild from being confirmed. Most people on here won't put their money where their mouth is, but this could be a legal fight worth standing behind. It seems as if Rare Breed has been planning for this and has some decent strategy. Nolo might be a good guy to step in as well. ETA: that's not to mention RB's motivation behind a strong defense. A potential fine of $400/trigger and losing all future business gives a grim future for RB if they lose. I like where you’re going with this. I’m good for another $400 Had a similar thought last night. Someone start a 'go fund me'?... not sure how all that works, but I'm in if for nothing else than to participate in the fight in the courtroom. Go fund me would freeze the funds and shut it down. It would be easier/safer to set up a crypto wallet and send funds to it if it came to that. ETA: beat by 21 seconds |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 4:57:32 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Challenging government loyalists is never a waste of time Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: You are what is wrong with this country Edited ~ medicmandan Lolwut I'm not angry in the least, in fact I'm tickled fucking pink that I own one rather than being powerless and gutless troll that does nothing about it when it really counts. Me? I put my money where my mouth is. I don't cower in fear. You should check out freedom sometime, we fought a war for it 2-300 years ago https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77724/16289723028138589830496356704261_jpg-2052633.JPG You’re wasting your time… he’s apparently one of the ‘I kill thing at 1000yds’ types. Challenging government loyalists is never a waste of time There is an entertainment factor. The statist & populist bench is Deep on this Mf. |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 5:02:11 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Go fund me would freeze the funds and shut it down. It would be easier/safer to set up a crypto wallet and send funds to it if it came to that. ETA: beat by 21 seconds Any reason why RBT can't setup a "product" on their page website that allows for the "purchase" (donation)? Either that or the ability to contribute more when buying a trigger... the big boys can ask us to "round up" to the NRA.... this can't be that hard. The crypto though, that would take me some time to learn. |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 5:13:43 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any reason why RBT can't setup a "product" on their page website that allows for the "purchase" (donation)? Either that or the ability to contribute more when buying a trigger... the big boys can ask us to "round up" to the NRA.... this can't be that hard. The crypto though, that would take me some time to learn. Ah, but buying a trigger doesn't just give a bunch of money to their legal fund, it also gets another trigger out into the world. |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 5:13:57 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You're wasting your time he's apparently one of the 'I kill thing at 1000yds' types. You obviously didn't pay attention to any of my posts back when the bumpstock ban and NPRM comment period were going on. ETA: I think I was actually the guy he said the 1000 yard comment to. |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 5:14:52 PM EDT
[#42]
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Posted: 8/14/2021 5:16:51 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Any reason why RBT can't setup a "product" on their page website that allows for the "purchase" (donation)? Either that or the ability to contribute more when buying a trigger... the big boys can ask us to "round up" to the NRA.... this can't be that hard. The crypto though, that would take me some time to learn. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Go fund me would freeze the funds and shut it down. It would be easier/safer to set up a crypto wallet and send funds to it if it came to that. ETA: beat by 21 seconds Any reason why RBT can't setup a "product" on their page website that allows for the "purchase" (donation)? Either that or the ability to contribute more when buying a trigger... the big boys can ask us to "round up" to the NRA.... this can't be that hard. The crypto though, that would take me some time to learn. Nope, no reason at all. Although, someone said Rare Breed is only taking crypto for purchases right now. You’re stuck using crypto unless you buy from another retailer. As for learning to send crypto, it’s not that hard. You can get a Coinbase account, validate it, then buy some crypto using a bank account. If you can use a website to do your banking, it’s not that much more complicated. You’ll have to go through the know your customer process for Coinbase because they’re a regulated exchange, it’s the same as opening a brokerage account basically. |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 5:20:31 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ah, but buying a trigger doesn't just give a bunch of money to their legal fund, it also gets another trigger out into the world. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Any reason why RBT can't setup a "product" on their page website that allows for the "purchase" (donation)? Either that or the ability to contribute more when buying a trigger... the big boys can ask us to "round up" to the NRA.... this can't be that hard. The crypto though, that would take me some time to learn. Ah, but buying a trigger doesn't just give a bunch of money to their legal fund, it also gets another trigger out into the world. At almost 400 dollars a trigger, I think that the whole purpose of this trigger is to support a legal defense fund. Larue can sell a MBT at $118.00, and Mr. G can do a SSA at $240. The FRT-15 isn’t that complicated, so that extra money has to be going somewhere. |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 5:22:37 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: At almost 400 dollars a trigger, I think that the whole purpose of this trigger is to support a legal defense fund. Larue can sell a MBT at $118.00, and Mr. G can do a SSA at $240. The FRT-15 isn’t that complicated, so that extra money has to be going somewhere. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Any reason why RBT can't setup a "product" on their page website that allows for the "purchase" (donation)? Either that or the ability to contribute more when buying a trigger... the big boys can ask us to "round up" to the NRA.... this can't be that hard. The crypto though, that would take me some time to learn. Ah, but buying a trigger doesn't just give a bunch of money to their legal fund, it also gets another trigger out into the world. At almost 400 dollars a trigger, I think that the whole purpose of this trigger is to support a legal defense fund. Larue can sell a MBT at $118.00, and Mr. G can do a SSA at $240. The FRT-15 isn’t that complicated, so that extra money has to be going somewhere. Exactly. I would be shocked if less than half of the price was legal. Probably more like 75%, |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 5:24:01 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol you probably work for the ATF and are trying to get as many last minute entrapments to buy them as possible. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Challenging government loyalists is never a waste of time Lol you probably work for the ATF and are trying to get as many last minute entrapments to buy them as possible. Oh good one champ  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 5:27:23 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No. But I'm still happy I won't be hassled like the people who bought the FRT's. They looked like a ton of fun, and the last thing I need is for the government to take away yet another thing I enjoyed (like the good old days of drones circa 2015). So yeah. I'm happy as fuck I didn't drop hundreds of dollars on something that was so obviously going to be banned. Magazine fed semiautos have been legally bought and sold in the US ever since they were invented over a hundred years ago, so your comparison doesn't hold water. They are in "common use". The FRT is not. "Hold up, guys, don't throw that tea in the harbor. You're gonna get us all in trouble. Let's just pay the tax on it and be thankful they only take part of our money and not all of it." |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 5:34:39 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: By the time they get to the guys that kill things at 1000 yds, there will be no one left to stand with them. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Today the flavor of the month is a trigger….tomorrow will be a magazine, or BCG, or night vision, body armor, etc… Fuck them By the time they get to the guys that kill things at 1000 yds, there will be no one left to stand with them. Those fat Fudds will voluntarily hand in their deer rifles as soon as possible. |
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Posted: 8/14/2021 5:36:05 PM EDT
[#49]
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Posted: 8/14/2021 5:36:24 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: GFM has on several occasions shut down campaigns that run against the edicts of the crown GFM for a guy who pulls a knife on cops in Kenosha? GTG GFM for a kid who shoots a convicted child molester who chased him down and attacked him? Not allowed. |
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