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Posted: 8/13/2021 11:34:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That part I agree with you since most bought it with credit card online you gave AFT an easy roadmap to find you and harass you. Why do you keep changing your font to blue? It doesn't make your post more impactful, just makes it hard as fuck to read. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 11:37:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I support the 2A, but I'm not going to jail for breaking an unconstitutional law.  Attached FileThat right there is why you should not ever be taken seriously. You better turn all your guns in now because eventually all of them will be banned. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 11:37:29 AM EDT
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Just this manufacturer, or does it apply to all binary triggers? |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 11:39:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do you keep changing your font to blue? It doesn't make your post more impactful, just makes it hard as fuck to read. Blue should make it easier to read not harder unless your monitor is jacked up. The default color is less impact and boring. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 11:41:57 AM EDT
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I'm not a lawyer.
I don't think the people who purchased these items will be ins serious legal trouble outside of being forced to turn them over IF something bad comes of this. I'm still looking at buying one myself. Just be very careful with what you buy online and read up on the laws first. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 11:42:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Blue should make it easier to read not harder unless your monitor is jacked up. The default color is less impact and boring. So you are a tryhard attention whore 21'er.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 11:42:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I hope you are right for laughing. If the bureaucracy rules by fiat (or feels) in such a way to throw out the law, what makes you think that deepthroating the boot will save you? |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 11:42:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Blue should make it easier to read not harder unless your monitor is jacked up. The default color is less impact and boring. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why do you keep changing your font to blue? It doesn't make your post more impactful, just makes it hard as fuck to read. Blue should make it easier to read not harder unless your monitor is jacked up. The default color is less impact and boring. Monitor? What's that? Is that one of those big television things that used to come with personal computers before they had phones without wires? |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 11:45:13 AM EDT
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Rare breed's response from another thread:
   
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Posted: 8/13/2021 11:46:01 AM EDT
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@Removed_californian feel free to update OP with the response
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Posted: 8/13/2021 11:46:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Blue should make it easier to read not harder unless your monitor is jacked up. The default color is less impact and boring. The color of your font doesn't make your posts interesting, theyre just boring and blue now. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 11:47:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Monitor? What's that? Is that one of those big television things that used to come with personal computers before they had phones without wires? Your using an old CRT monitor and are still running Windows 95. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 11:50:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Pull vs function as well. The "function" wording of the law is how Binary Triggers evade being classed as machine guns... for now. There are shotguns that will meet the definition of machine gun if function is changed to pull. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 11:51:02 AM EDT
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Did we ever figure out who actually owns Rare Breed? I heard rumors they were founded/owned by Spike's Tactical, but setup as a completely separate entity in case something like this happened?
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Posted: 8/13/2021 11:51:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are shotguns that will meet the definition of machine gun if function is changed to pull. You mean the old Winchester slam fires? |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 11:53:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did we ever figure out who actually owns Rare Breed? I heard rumors they were founded/owned by Spike's Tactical, but setup as a completely separate entity in case something like this happened? Since they are near Spikes, and the head guy of RBT is Spike's general manager, yeah. And not so much "in case something happened" because there isn't a person on the planet who didn't see this coming, more like setting it out as bait. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 11:53:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I support the 2A, but I'm not going to jail for breaking an unconstitutional law. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So you support the 2A, but . . ,. . . . I support the 2A, but I'm not going to jail for breaking an unconstitutional law. officially on the internet, me either. Now, in minecraft... that's a different story |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 11:55:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh. Lots of GD Rambos here posting things like "grow a pair" advising people to keep their easily traced (stupidly classified) contraband - because the Rambos aren't risking anything. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Retarded comparison is still retarded  Meh. Lots of GD Rambos here posting things like "grow a pair" advising people to keep their easily traced (stupidly classified) contraband - because the Rambos aren't risking anything. They just want someone else to do the heavy lifting for them. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 11:55:50 AM EDT
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I wouldn't want to be on the mailing list.
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Posted: 8/13/2021 11:56:09 AM EDT
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When will the idiots on here and these YouTube people who get rich of people watching their videos learn about IPSec. Quit posting your stupid videos and drawing attention to these products! These social media platforms make it so easy for people to scrutinize everything the firearms community does!
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Posted: 8/13/2021 11:58:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When will the idiots on here and these YouTube people who get rich of people watching their videos learn about IPSec. Quit posting your stupid videos and drawing attention to these products! These social media platforms make it so easy for people to scrutinize everything the firearms community does! "If I don't anger him he won't have to beat me up every night" Fuck that shit. We tried your plan for decades. It didn't work. So sit down and shut up with the rest of the failures. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 11:58:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If the bureaucracy rules by fiat (or feels) in such a way to throw out the law, what makes you think that deepthroating the boot will save you? Just a magic 8 ball prediction Not looking to be saved. I might take up palm reading and buy a deck of those cards next. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:00:52 PM EDT
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Lawyer wrote a nice letter. I don't own a FRT but I hope RBT brakes it off in the ATF. This whole "it's illegal because we say it is" bullshit needs to stop.
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:01:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When will the idiots on here and these YouTube people who get rich of people watching their videos learn about IPSec. Quit posting your stupid videos and drawing attention to these products! These social media platforms make it so easy for people to scrutinize everything the firearms community does! If you're doing something that is completely legal, why should you have to hide it? |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:02:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you're doing something that is completely legal, why should you have to hide it? Stockholm Syndrome is a hell of a drug. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:02:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "If I don't anger him he won't have to beat me up every night" Fuck that shit. We tried your plan for decades. It didn't work. So sit down and shut up with the rest of the failures. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When will the idiots on here and these YouTube people who get rich of people watching their videos learn about IPSec. Quit posting your stupid videos and drawing attention to these products! These social media platforms make it so easy for people to scrutinize everything the firearms community does! "If I don't anger him he won't have to beat me up every night" Fuck that shit. We tried your plan for decades. It didn't work. So sit down and shut up with the rest of the failures. exactly 
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:04:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When will the idiots on here and these YouTube people who get rich of people watching their videos learn about IPSec. Quit posting your stupid videos and drawing attention to these products! These social media platforms make it so easy for people to scrutinize everything the firearms community does! If you don't brag about every detail of your life on social media, did it even really happen?  And maybe I don't like living life in the shadows. 
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:05:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When will the idiots on here and these YouTube people who get rich of people watching their videos learn about IPSec. Quit posting your stupid videos and drawing attention to these products! These social media platforms make it so easy for people to scrutinize everything the firearms community does! No one would have bought an FRT-15 because they would have all considered it another ATF Shotgun News DIAS. Thanks but I'll take the videos and awareness and inclusion that Youtube and the internet have provided us. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:06:29 PM EDT
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I hope they break it off in some AFT ass.
Not that I agree with the position of the agents, but a rebuttal.  
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:07:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You want people to act like the 90s? When everyone thought machine guns and silencers and SBRs were "illegal unless you have a class 3" and every other scare mongering fairy tale that kept people from exercising their rights? No one would have bought an FRT-15 because they would have all considered it another ATF Shotgun News DIAS. Thanks but I'll take the videos and awareness and inclusion that Youtube and the internet have provided us. Don't you know the best way to win a culture war is to completely withdraw from the culture? Can't be defeated if you unconditionally surrendered before the fight even began *taps head*. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:11:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You want people to act like the 90s? When everyone thought machine guns and silencers and SBRs were "illegal unless you have a class 3" and every other scare mongering fairy tale that kept people from exercising their rights? No one would have bought an FRT-15 because they would have all considered it another ATF Shotgun News DIAS. Thanks but I'll take the videos and awareness and inclusion that Youtube and the internet have provided us. Exactly As someone that was in HS in the late 90s. I really didn't think you could own suppressors until I found out more about them from YouTube and this site. Same thing for full auto, shit I should have gotten into it more early on. Would have been good investments. Now I have 2 suppressors and looking to add more. I mean if I knew all it took as a $200 tax stamp and a 6 month wait I would have done it years ago. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:11:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When will the idiots on here and these YouTube people who get rich of people watching their videos learn about IPSec. Quit posting your stupid videos and drawing attention to these products! These social media platforms make it so easy for people to scrutinize everything the firearms community does! So the fags came out of the closet so we could go in? Not facing the issues head on is what got this country where it is today. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:13:25 PM EDT
[#33]
Damn, that letter went BALLS DEEP in ATF's ass.
Good...  Enough of the ATF making up and changing (how they interpret) laws on the fly. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:17:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/laugh-29.gif That right there is why you should not ever be taken seriously. You better turn all your guns in now because eventually all of them will be banned. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I support the 2A, but I'm not going to jail for breaking an unconstitutional law. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/laugh-29.gif That right there is why you should not ever be taken seriously. You better turn all your guns in now because eventually all of them will be banned. Lol, no. When the ATF railroads some of those FRT owners you won't be there on their street stopping them. You'll be safe in your basement posting how it's cowardly to stay out of prison.
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:17:47 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When will the idiots on here and these YouTube people who get rich of people watching their videos learn about IPSec. Quit posting your stupid videos and drawing attention to these products! These social media platforms make it so easy for people to scrutinize everything the firearms community does! We should do legal things in secret so that people who don't like it won't find out about them and make them illegal. If they do that then we'll have to do them in secret.
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:18:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You mean the old Winchester slam fires? Release triggers. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:31:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, no. When the ATF railroads some of those FRT owners you won't be there on their street stopping them. You'll be safe in your basement posting how it's cowardly to stay out of prison. I fight battles that I can win, as me by myself would get slaughtered in vain quickly if I fought them and am smart enough not to buy anything that can be traced back to me that will likely be contraband not long after. The FRT owners have plausible deniability along with getting a lawyer. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:34:39 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I fight battles that I can win, as me by myself would get slaughtered in vain quickly if I fought them and am smart enough not to buy anything that can be traced back to me that will likely be contraband not long after. The FRT owners have plausible deniability along with getting a lawyer. Ooooooh! So when other people pick their battles they should turn in all their guns now, but YOU are smart enough not to get tangled up in anything that skirts the line. Troll. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:39:32 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ooooooh! So when other people pick their battles they should turn in all their guns now, but YOU are smart enough not to get tangled up in anything that skirts the line. Troll. No they should do what they feel is best for themselves and I don't pay with anything other than cash for controversial items that could be contraband in short notice. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:44:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No they should do what they feel is best for themselves and I don't pay with anything other than cash for controversial items that could be contraband in short notice. First, you look like either a super-boomer or 12 years old. Second, I just ignore most of your posts because it is harder to read blue font. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:46:32 PM EDT
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Link from the other thread: now the big guns are coming out.
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:50:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seriously, stop using blue. First, you look like either a super-boomer or 12 years old. Second, I just ignore most of your posts because it is harder to read blue font. Black is the only color font you can see clearly. Here is the same what I posted in black. No they should do what they feel is best for themselves and I don't pay with anything other than cash for controversial items that could be contraband in short notice. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:53:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:53:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Black is the only color font you can see clearly. Here is the same what I posted in black. No they should do what they feel is best for themselves and I don't pay with anything other than cash for controversial items that could be contraband in short notice. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Seriously, stop using blue. First, you look like either a super-boomer or 12 years old. Second, I just ignore most of your posts because it is harder to read blue font. Black is the only color font you can see clearly. Here is the same what I posted in black. No they should do what they feel is best for themselves and I don't pay with anything other than cash for controversial items that could be contraband in short notice. It may be scary, but it is OK. You will get used to it after some time. Those feelings of anxiety go away. Breathe, good. Pro tip: If black regular font is good enough for Nolo, it is plenty fine for you. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:54:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When will the idiots on here and these YouTube people who get rich of people watching their videos learn about IPSec. Quit posting your stupid videos and drawing attention to these products! These social media platforms make it so easy for people to scrutinize everything the firearms community does! Apparently, Rare Breed WANTED the AFT's attention. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 12:57:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Apparently, Rare Breed WANTED the AFT's attention. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: When will the idiots on here and these YouTube people who get rich of people watching their videos learn about IPSec. Quit posting your stupid videos and drawing attention to these products! These social media platforms make it so easy for people to scrutinize everything the firearms community does! Apparently, Rare Breed WANTED the AFT's attention. Or it could bring to plain to see daylight that the fed.gov is REALLY out of control and may spur some changes in the people. Not sure. At some point, the legal battle (and resulting clarifications) needed to be had. These things sure as fuck were good bait. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 1:06:43 PM EDT
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I always thought it would be easy to argue binarys were MGs. Although they follow the 1 pull of the trigger=one shot that argument only works for the first pull of the trigger. If 1 pull = 1 shot then 5 pulls should mean 5 shots but we know 5 pulls of the binary trigger gets you 9 shots if you dont release the trig.
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Posted: 8/13/2021 1:06:45 PM EDT
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The big difference between RR trigger and DIAS is one forces the user to use a repeated forced backwards squeezing pressure to continually fire with a short reset every time like every other semi auto trigger whereas a DIAS is pull the trigger once and holding it for continued fire without a reset of any kind.
Taking this to court they will win because your still having to complete more than one trigger action to get the gun to fire repeatedly it is the speed of the user and the short reset that makes it seem like a full auto but is just rapid fire semi auto actions. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 1:07:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No they should do what they feel is best for themselves and I don't pay with anything other than cash for controversial items that could be contraband in short notice. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ooooooh! So when other people pick their battles they should turn in all their guns now, but YOU are smart enough not to get tangled up in anything that skirts the line. Troll. No they should do what they feel is best for themselves and I don't pay with anything other than cash for controversial items that could be contraband in short notice. |
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Posted: 8/13/2021 1:08:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 13 days into your life here and I have now grey barred you because your font color is irritating.  Attached File |
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