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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:35:29 PM EDT
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Had a lot of time to be thorough.
A little surprised but certainly OK with this. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:35:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:37:05 PM EDT
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Very odd story if the allegations are to be believed as true. Why would someone simply wonder off his base in Afghanistan knowing full well the reputation of the Taliban concerning prisoners? Well, he did. And why would a gay, hacker-wannabee copy and handover secret war-related documents to whoever that other gay, hacker-wanabee was (I know, Julian Ass-ange)? Because they were both young, impressionable, disillusioned "soldiers" who didn't like conforming, being told what to do, following orders, etc. and had no business being in the armed forces, who realized they had fucked up by enlisting, and decided to get back at their "tormentor". And the ultimate irony is, data released by Manning (wikileaks) confirms Bergdahl deserted. And what exactly would the Taliban's reputation be? |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:37:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:38:25 PM EDT
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I see a presidential pardon on the horizon... How to negate Obama: convict Bergdahl on or after Jan 21st, 2017 I believe that the President can pardon a person for a particular crime before he has been convicted. That's essentially what Gerald Ford did for Nixon. Damn rare and maybe not legal. A moot point I suspect. Obama's gambit was to hope that nobody noticed that Bergdahl was a deserter and they bought the line of "bringing American's last POW of this war home". Now that Bergdahl has been formally charged, Obama is not going to risk any political capital or legacy for him no matter how much he might sympathize with Bergdahl's intentions. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:38:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:39:00 PM EDT
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I think someone needs to remind the public that this is an individual that the current administration publicly praised for bravery, etc. one year ago when the horrible (and illegal) trade deal was brokered. That's right -- this administration considers individuals that warrant charges such as this -- to be heroes and brave. Let that sink in for a second... Well, in their mind's eye they are brave, they believe that it takes guts to do that which is normally by polite society considered craven. We live in Bizarro World. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:39:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:41:10 PM EDT
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How to negate Obama: convict Bergdahl on or after Jan 21st, 2017 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I see a presidential pardon on the horizon... How to negate Obama: convict Bergdahl on or after Jan 21st, 2017 If he has an even semi-competent defense counsel, they'll push hard on the speedy trial provisions of the UCMJ just to ensure that an Obungo pardon is still in play. The clock has started - 90 days from charges to trail. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:43:42 PM EDT
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Whoever made the call to charge him will be fired/audited etc. for making BHO look like the buffoon and liar that he is FBHO The convening authority over the Bergdahl case: "Four-star general Mark Milley to decide Bowe Bergdahl’s fate" http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/22/bowe-bergdahl-four-star-general-mark-milley-handed/ |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:44:04 PM EDT
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about time
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:44:13 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:44:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think someone needs to remind the public that this is an individual that the current administration publicly praised for bravery, etc. one year ago when the horrible (and illegal) trade deal was brokered. That's right -- this administration considers individuals that warrant charges such as this -- to be heroes and brave. Let that sink in for a second... Dont forget that he was 'promoted' to Sergent while he was absent from his post. What does that do to/for his Chain of Command? Or did that come from the fucking kenyon as well? |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:44:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:44:46 PM EDT
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its about time but.. he should still be there and those 5 taliban members should still be at gitmo
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:45:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: THIS! Quote History |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:45:34 PM EDT
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The convening authority over the Bergdahl case: "Four-star general Mark Milley to decide Bowe Bergdahl’s fate" http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/22/bowe-bergdahl-four-star-general-mark-milley-handed/ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Whoever made the call to charge him will be fired/audited etc. for making BHO look like the buffoon and liar that he is FBHO The convening authority over the Bergdahl case: "Four-star general Mark Milley to decide Bowe Bergdahl’s fate" http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/22/bowe-bergdahl-four-star-general-mark-milley-handed/ He was my old brigade commander. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:46:46 PM EDT
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FBHO will pardon him if found guilty.
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:47:55 PM EDT
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But...But...my president told me that he was a hero? In fact, he was such a fucking hero, my president traded some very high value terrorists for him.
You all are obviously mistaken, my president would not ever make such a mistake. Well, if he is a traitor, like the facts show, and my president got it so very wrong; I am hoping that Bowe takes a sharpened toothbrush to the guts, just enough times to cause septic peritonitis, and it is unfortunately not curable. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:48:37 PM EDT
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News conference at Fort Bragg at 3:30 pm. Desertion and misbehavior before the enemy. What are the (a) typical and (b) maximum punishments for this? |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:48:47 PM EDT
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How much coverage will msnbc give to this?
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:50:07 PM EDT
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How much coverage will msnbc give to this? It's on their front page. And fuck you for making me go there. 
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:50:16 PM EDT
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FBHO will pardon him if found guilty. He would do best to ignore the whole situation.........and try to let it pass unnoticed, but we all know he won't be able to do that. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:50:40 PM EDT
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Fuck that traitorous piece of shit. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:50:50 PM EDT
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He was my old brigade commander. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Whoever made the call to charge him will be fired/audited etc. for making BHO look like the buffoon and liar that he is FBHO The convening authority over the Bergdahl case: "Four-star general Mark Milley to decide Bowe Bergdahl’s fate" http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/22/bowe-bergdahl-four-star-general-mark-milley-handed/ He was my old brigade commander. He's, intense. 
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:51:07 PM EDT
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Good!
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:51:32 PM EDT
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Dont forget that he was 'promoted' to Sergent while he was absent from his post. What does that do to/for his Chain of Command? Or did that come from the fucking kenyon as well? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think someone needs to remind the public that this is an individual that the current administration publicly praised for bravery, etc. one year ago when the horrible (and illegal) trade deal was brokered. That's right -- this administration considers individuals that warrant charges such as this -- to be heroes and brave. Let that sink in for a second... Dont forget that he was 'promoted' to Sergent while he was absent from his post. What does that do to/for his Chain of Command? Or did that come from the fucking kenyon as well? SOP to continue pay, benefits, benefits for family members, promotions, etc. when MIA/DUSTWUN; it was automatic. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:52:17 PM EDT
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Dont forget that he was 'promoted' to Sergent while he was absent from his post. What does that do to/for his Chain of Command? Or did that come from the fucking kenyon as well? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think someone needs to remind the public that this is an individual that the current administration publicly praised for bravery, etc. one year ago when the horrible (and illegal) trade deal was brokered. That's right -- this administration considers individuals that warrant charges such as this -- to be heroes and brave. Let that sink in for a second... Dont forget that he was 'promoted' to Sergent while he was absent from his post. What does that do to/for his Chain of Command? Or did that come from the fucking kenyon as well? uhhh promotions are automatic for soldiers that are considered POW. edit-beat by a few seconds. His promotion orders will be rescinded anyways |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:52:18 PM EDT
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But...But...my president told me that he was a hero? In fact, he was such a fucking hero, my president traded some very high value terrorists for him. You all are obviously mistaken, my president would not ever make such a mistake. Well, if he is a traitor, like the facts show, and my president got it so very wrong; I am hoping that Bowe takes a sharpened toothbrush to the guts, just enough times to cause septic peritonitis, and it is unfortunately not curable. He was a Hero - to the President. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:52:46 PM EDT
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What are the (a) typical and (b) maximum punishments for this? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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News conference at Fort Bragg at 3:30 pm. Desertion and misbehavior before the enemy. What are the (a) typical and (b) maximum punishments for this? A recent case last month, a Marine for two years BCD other shit. But this kind of thing doesn't happen often, Death. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:53:07 PM EDT
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He would do best to ignore the whole situation.........and try to let it pass unnoticed, but we all know he won't be able to do that. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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FBHO will pardon him if found guilty. He would do best to ignore the whole situation.........and try to let it pass unnoticed, but we all know he won't be able to do that. That's pretty much his style; ignore fuck ups and they seem to go away. Besides, who gots time fo dat? |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:53:30 PM EDT
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Whoever made the call to charge him will be fired/audited etc. for making BHO look like the buffoon and liar that he is FBHO The convening authority over the Bergdahl case: "Four-star general Mark Milley to decide Bowe Bergdahl’s fate" http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/22/bowe-bergdahl-four-star-general-mark-milley-handed/ He was my old brigade commander. He's, intense. Do you have a feel for his politics? Will he softpedal it for obama or will he hammer Bergdahl? |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:53:52 PM EDT
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Newsmax
Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl will also be charged with misbehavior before the enemy, said the official, who was not authorized to discuss the announcement publicly on the record and spoke on condition of anonymity.
Bergdahl's attorney told Reuters that his client will be charged with desertion and misbehavior. A hearing is set for April 22 in San Antonio, Texas. 
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:53:57 PM EDT
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Early whisperings are he will likely get an other than honorable discharge and his sentence will be time served for the time he spent with his captors. No jail time in the US and definitely not a firing squad.
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:54:56 PM EDT
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If he has an even semi-competent defense counsel, they'll push hard on the speedy trial provisions of the UCMJ just to ensure that an Obungo pardon is still in play. The clock has started - 90 days from charges to trail. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I see a presidential pardon on the horizon... How to negate Obama: convict Bergdahl on or after Jan 21st, 2017 If he has an even semi-competent defense counsel, they'll push hard on the speedy trial provisions of the UCMJ just to ensure that an Obungo pardon is still in play. The clock has started - 90 days from charges to trail. From the article. " His attorney, Gene Fidell says he hasn't seen the charges yet for himself, but Bergdahl had passed along what officials had said he would be charged with earlier Wednesday." Looks like no formal charges yet; only intent announced. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:55:24 PM EDT
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Early whisperings are he will likely get an other than honorable discharge and his sentence will be time served for the time he spent with his captors. No jail time in the US and definitely not a firing squad. I hope you're kidding. Didn't soldiers die looking for him? |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:56:50 PM EDT
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Dont forget that he was 'promoted' to Sergent while he was absent from his post. What does that do to/for his Chain of Command? Or did that come from the fucking kenyon as well? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think someone needs to remind the public that this is an individual that the current administration publicly praised for bravery, etc. one year ago when the horrible (and illegal) trade deal was brokered. That's right -- this administration considers individuals that warrant charges such as this -- to be heroes and brave. Let that sink in for a second... Dont forget that he was 'promoted' to Sergent while he was absent from his post. What does that do to/for his Chain of Command? Or did that come from the fucking kenyon as well? Same things goes for POWs. Is that why he was promoted ? |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:57:28 PM EDT
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Early whisperings are he will likely get an other than honorable discharge and his sentence will be time served for the time he spent with his captors. No jail time in the US and definitely not a firing squad. I sincerely hope the whisperings you're hearing are WAY off base. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:57:56 PM EDT
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That's pretty much his style; ignore fuck ups and they seem to go away. Besides, who gots time fo dat? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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FBHO will pardon him if found guilty. He would do best to ignore the whole situation.........and try to let it pass unnoticed, but we all know he won't be able to do that. That's pretty much his style; ignore fuck ups and they seem to go away. Besides, who gots time fo dat? The new one will be "I don't comment on active cases" when he's asked about it next. Except for when he does comment on active cases (cough Trayvon cough). |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:58:01 PM EDT
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Early whisperings are he will likely get an other than honorable discharge and his sentence will be time served for the time he spent with his captors. No jail time in the US and definitely not a firing squad. Yes, but the burning question is, what position in the Administration will he get? Head of the VA maybe? |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:58:18 PM EDT
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Early whisperings are he will likely get an other than honorable discharge and his sentence will be time served for the time he spent with his captors. No jail time in the US and definitely not a firing squad. I wouldn't doubt that. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:58:26 PM EDT
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The US Army has been sitting on this case for months because it proves that Obama and his admin are liars. Susan Rice: Bergdahl Served With 'Honor and Distinction'  http://youtu.be/BdGe0uP7W-c
Rice has served with lies, corruption, stupidity and an innate desire to kiss a Kenyon's ass everyday of her life. She is ripe for some type of an award.  
I'd love to see Bergdahl die by firing squad. A waste of money to have to pay for his keep for the rest of his life. Those terrorist cousins of the Kenyon are probably cab drivers in Milwaukee....no worries. 
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:58:51 PM EDT
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Hillary Clinton: Bowe Bergdahl actions irrelevant
By LUCY MCCALMONT | 6/6/14 6:16 PM EDT Updated: 6/9/14 11:54 AM EDT
Hillary Clinton is defending the deal that freed Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, dismissing questions about how he fell into the hands of the Taliban as beside the point. “It doesn’t matter,” Clinton said in an interview with ABC’s Diane Sawyer that aired Friday. “We bring our people home.” The former secretary of state’s argument echoes that of President Barack Obama, who has come under fire for the prisoner swap that led to Bergdahl’s freedom amid questions about whether he may have abandoned his post and deserted or defected. The military is investigating. Clinton’s comments come as the former secretary of state begins to make the rounds ahead of the release of her latest memoir, “Hard Choices,” on Tuedsay. “I think this was a very hard choice, which is why I think my book is aptly named,” Clinton said, referring to the Bergdahl deal. “If you look at what the factors were going into the decision, of course there are competing interests and values. And one of our values is we bring everybody home off the battlefield the best we can. It doesn’t matter how they ended up in a prisoner of war situation.” The Daily Beast reported this week that when Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, she was skeptical of the possible deal with the Taliban and was pressing for strict conditions in any agreement. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:59:09 PM EDT
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Do you have a feel for his politics? Will he softpedal it for obama or will he hammer Bergdahl? IMHO, if Gen Milley were left to his own diescretion, Bergdahl would be hammered into the dirt like a tent peg. I think, however, that there will be external influences to cause him to be more pragmatic. My bet is 5-10 yrs confinement, BCD. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:59:31 PM EDT
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Early whisperings are he will likely get an other than honorable discharge and his sentence will be time served for the time he spent with his captors. No jail time in the US and definitely not a firing squad. I hope you're kidding. Didn't soldiers die looking for him? Unfortunately no, I am not kidding. This isn't from any "official" source, but there is pressure to count the five years he spent in captivity as time served for any sentence he may get. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 2:59:40 PM EDT
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And what exactly would the Taliban's reputation be? Mistreatment of prisoners and possibly behead you. That's what I understand their reputation to be. Now, I've never been a Taliban prisoner or had a conversation with one, but I don't imagine it's like being a prisoner of the Germans in WW2 where you get care packages from the Red Cross. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 3:00:23 PM EDT
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Did Hitlary ever make a comment on this whole situation?
edited to add: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/06/06/hillary-clinton-defends-obama-on-bergdahl-says-it-doesnt-matter-how-he-was-captured/ She thinks "it doesn't matter" how he fell into enemy hands. |
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Posted: 3/25/2015 3:00:33 PM EDT
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Good, now he can pay for the lives we lost while trying to find his sorry ass.
FUCK HIM.
RIP, BROTHERS. 
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Posted: 3/25/2015 3:03:21 PM EDT
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Fuck Leavenworth. Throw him in gitmo
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Posted: 3/25/2015 3:03:34 PM EDT
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Early whisperings are he will likely get an other than honorable discharge and his sentence will be time served for the time he spent with his captors. No jail time in the US and definitely not a firing squad. OTH? I would hope a big chicken dinner would be the minimum, if not a DD. Same with 'time served' as it's hard to discern if his time served in captivity was indeed captivity or voluntary, harsh or not. |
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