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Posted: 10/9/2019 2:17:31 PM EDT
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I'm gonna enjoy watching your reaction when it becomes obvious what Trump is.  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/9/2019 3:22:48 PM EDT
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Video in tweet. John Roberts realizing this may all be orchestrated by Trump to bring down those seeking impeachment 
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Posted: 10/9/2019 4:27:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/9/2019 4:43:41 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/9/2019 6:30:59 PM EDT
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They want to get Trump so bad I heard today they got people over at Micheal Cohen's prison interviewing him and taking more statements so they can charge Trump with something.
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Posted: 10/9/2019 7:09:08 PM EDT
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Over 50% of voters now think he should be impeached and removed from office.
The deception game is working and we can do nothing about it. A new high of 51 percent wants Trump impeached and removed from office, another 4 percent want him impeached but not removed, and 40 percent oppose impeachment altogether. In July, 42 percent favored impeachment and removal, while 5 percent said impeach but don’t remove him, and 45 percent opposed impeachment. |
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Posted: 10/9/2019 7:12:37 PM EDT
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Over 50% of voters now think he should be impeached and removed from office. The deception game is working and we can do nothing about it. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment Quote HistoryQuoted:
Over 50% of voters now think he should be impeached and removed from office. The deception game is working and we can do nothing about it. A new high of 51 percent wants Trump impeached and removed from office, another 4 percent want him impeached but not removed, and 40 percent oppose impeachment altogether. In July, 42 percent favored impeachment and removal, while 5 percent said impeach but don’t remove him, and 45 percent opposed impeachment. They definitely speak for the entire nation |
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Posted: 10/9/2019 7:13:09 PM EDT
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Over 50% of voters now think he should be impeached and removed from office. The deception game is working and we can do nothing about it. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment Quote HistoryQuoted:
Over 50% of voters now think he should be impeached and removed from office. The deception game is working and we can do nothing about it. A new high of 51 percent wants Trump impeached and removed from office, another 4 percent want him impeached but not removed, and 40 percent oppose impeachment altogether. In July, 42 percent favored impeachment and removal, while 5 percent said impeach but don’t remove him, and 45 percent opposed impeachment. |
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Posted: 10/9/2019 7:14:38 PM EDT
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Over 50% of voters now think he should be impeached and removed from office. The deception game is working and we can do nothing about it. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/9/2019 7:28:27 PM EDT
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Don't trust the polls https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/33281/CwrD0QoXAAE2ryH_jpg-1118631.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Over 50% of voters now think he should be impeached and removed from office. The deception game is working and we can do nothing about it. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/33281/CwrD0QoXAAE2ryH_jpg-1118631.JPG |
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Posted: 10/9/2019 8:51:08 PM EDT
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Don't trust the polls https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/33281/CwrD0QoXAAE2ryH_jpg-1118631.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Over 50% of voters now think he should be impeached and removed from office. The deception game is working and we can do nothing about it. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/33281/CwrD0QoXAAE2ryH_jpg-1118631.JPG Don't bother answering that because it wasn't a poll. It was a HuffPo "forecast" with no real disclosed methodology at all. Given that I hope no one seriously considers that as a basis on which to discount the last election polling because, contrary to the belief of some, the real polling was actually pretty accurate being only off about 2% individually for most and off by 1% in the aggregate.  Attached FileWhat the raw polling couldn't account for was the Electoral College breakdown. That's why Trump lost the popular vote and eeked out the Electoral College by just 77,744 votes. So, go ahead and discount the polls at your peril just because you don't like what they may show. |
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Posted: 10/9/2019 9:24:16 PM EDT
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So who took that poll and what was the methodology? Don't bother answering that because it wasn't a poll. It was a HuffPo "forecast" with no real disclosed methodology at all. Given that I hope no one seriously considers that as a basis on which to discount the last election polling because, contrary to the belief of some, the real polling was actually pretty accurate being only off about 2% individually for most and off by 1% in the aggregate. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/102941/2018-12-26_22-54-11_jpg-1118747.JPG What the raw polling couldn't account for was the Electoral College breakdown. That's why Trump lost the popular vote and eeked out the Electoral College by just 77,744 votes. So, go ahead and discount the polls at your peril just because you don't like what they may show. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Over 50% of voters now think he should be impeached and removed from office. The deception game is working and we can do nothing about it. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/33281/CwrD0QoXAAE2ryH_jpg-1118631.JPG Don't bother answering that because it wasn't a poll. It was a HuffPo "forecast" with no real disclosed methodology at all. Given that I hope no one seriously considers that as a basis on which to discount the last election polling because, contrary to the belief of some, the real polling was actually pretty accurate being only off about 2% individually for most and off by 1% in the aggregate. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/102941/2018-12-26_22-54-11_jpg-1118747.JPG What the raw polling couldn't account for was the Electoral College breakdown. That's why Trump lost the popular vote and eeked out the Electoral College by just 77,744 votes. So, go ahead and discount the polls at your peril just because you don't like what they may show. Plus you don't even mention the "95% chance of winning" the electoral college the whole media was talking about on election day. |
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Posted: 10/9/2019 9:29:17 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure Trump was polling behind in several of the battleground states he won. Plus you don't even mention the "95% chance of winning" the electoral college the whole media was talking about on election day. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Over 50% of voters now think he should be impeached and removed from office. The deception game is working and we can do nothing about it. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/33281/CwrD0QoXAAE2ryH_jpg-1118631.JPG Don't bother answering that because it wasn't a poll. It was a HuffPo "forecast" with no real disclosed methodology at all. Given that I hope no one seriously considers that as a basis on which to discount the last election polling because, contrary to the belief of some, the real polling was actually pretty accurate being only off about 2% individually for most and off by 1% in the aggregate. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/102941/2018-12-26_22-54-11_jpg-1118747.JPG What the raw polling couldn't account for was the Electoral College breakdown. That's why Trump lost the popular vote and eeked out the Electoral College by just 77,744 votes. So, go ahead and discount the polls at your peril just because you don't like what they may show. Plus you don't even mention the "95% chance of winning" the electoral college the whole media was talking about on election day. |
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Posted: 10/9/2019 9:30:45 PM EDT
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The polls are used to shape public opinion not reflect it. Here's what they were pushing in April 2016
https://www.businessinsider.com/quinnipiac-poll-clinton-trump-landslide-2016-8 New poll shows we're 'starting to hear the faint rumblings of a Hillary Clinton landslide' |
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Posted: 10/9/2019 9:46:08 PM EDT
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Voting to impeach Trump will be voting to start Civil War 2.0
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Posted: 10/9/2019 10:23:15 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure Trump was polling behind in several of the battleground states he won. Quote HistoryQuoted:
I'm pretty sure Trump was polling behind in several of the battleground states he won. - Pennsylvania won by just 44,292 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +1.9, actual was Trump +0.7 - Wisconsin won by just 22,748 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +6.5, actual was Trump +0.7 - Michigan won by just 10,704 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +3.4, actual was Trump +0.3 Of just those 3, Wisconsin is the only one that could be considered diverging significantly from the polled results in part because they expected a larger showing for Stein and Johnson. Given that it's Wisconsin, that's not really going that far out on a limb I don't think. Polling also showed Trump winning Ohio decently, which he did, and eeking out a win in Florida, which he also did. Again, aside from the 5.8% divergence in Wisconsin, polling for battleground states was, no surprise, pretty close. So, again, ignore them if you want but I wouldn't recommend it. I would, however, recommend keeping an eye on Real Clear Politics for the aggregate polling which tends to give a more accurate result since it helps eliminates outliers which both sides like to use. Quoted:
Plus you don't even mention the "95% chance of winning" the electoral college the whole media was talking about on election day. |
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Posted: 10/9/2019 10:24:38 PM EDT
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Over 50% of voters now think he should be impeached and removed from office. The deception game is working and we can do nothing about it. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment |
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Posted: 10/9/2019 10:25:05 PM EDT
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Of the ones that showed battleground state losses, most were almost certainly within the margin of error. - Pennsylvania won by just 44,292 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +1.9, actual was Trump +0.7 - Wisconsin won by just 22,748 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +6.5, actual was Trump +0.7 - Michigan won by just 10,704 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +3.4, actual was Trump +0.3 Of just those 3, Wisconsin is the only one that could be considered diverging significantly from the polled results in part because they expected a larger showing for Stein and Johnson. Given that it's Wisconsin, that's not really going that far out on a limb I don't think. Polling also showed Trump winning Ohio decently, which he did, and eeking out a win in Florida, which he also did. Again, aside from the 5.8% divergence in Wisconsin, polling for battleground states was, no surprise, pretty close. So, again, ignore them if you want but I wouldn't recommend it. I would, however, recommend keeping an eye on Real Clear Politics for the aggregate polling which tends to give a more accurate result since it helps eliminates outliers which both sides like to use. Of course I didn't mention it because it's not really relevant. It was more "forecasting" (aka propaganda), not polling conducted by polling firms. |
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Posted: 10/9/2019 10:27:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/9/2019 10:35:57 PM EDT
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“Rep. Mark Pocan finally has made the play that Rep. Elijah Cummings called months ago. Those employees of Camp Runamuck who decline to participate in the impeachment inquiry will find their pay docked.”
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Posted: 10/9/2019 10:39:13 PM EDT
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Let them. He wants to get in court. That's when he take them down. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Over 50% of voters now think he should be impeached and removed from office. The deception game is working and we can do nothing about it. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment Too many variables in the Senate and the "leaks" will only escalate and cause more confusion. Keep this shit contained in the house. If it moves any further....get ready for the boogaloo. |
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Posted: 10/9/2019 10:44:47 PM EDT
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Of the ones that showed battleground state losses, most were almost certainly within the margin of error. - Pennsylvania won by just 44,292 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +1.9, actual was Trump +0.7 - Wisconsin won by just 22,748 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +6.5, actual was Trump +0.7 - Michigan won by just 10,704 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +3.4, actual was Trump +0.3 Of just those 3, Wisconsin is the only one that could be considered diverging significantly from the polled results in part because they expected a larger showing for Stein and Johnson. Given that it's Wisconsin, that's not really going that far out on a limb I don't think. Polling also showed Trump winning Ohio decently, which he did, and eeking out a win in Florida, which he also did. Again, aside from the 5.8% divergence in Wisconsin, polling for battleground states was, no surprise, pretty close. So, again, ignore them if you want but I wouldn't recommend it. I would, however, recommend keeping an eye on Real Clear Politics for the aggregate polling which tends to give a more accurate result since it helps eliminates outliers which both sides like to use. Of course I didn't mention it because it's not really relevant. It was more "forecasting" (aka propaganda), not polling conducted by polling firms. 
Maybe you can post an InfoWars link next... The numbers were provided for you. Sorry it doesn't jive with your world view. |
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Posted: 10/9/2019 10:47:01 PM EDT
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Over 50% of voters now think he should be impeached and removed from office. The deception game is working and we can do nothing about it. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment Quote HistoryQuoted:
Over 50% of voters now think he should be impeached and removed from office. The deception game is working and we can do nothing about it. A new high of 51 percent wants Trump impeached and removed from office, another 4 percent want him impeached but not removed, and 40 percent oppose impeachment altogether. In July, 42 percent favored impeachment and removal, while 5 percent said impeach but don’t remove him, and 45 percent opposed impeachment. |
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Posted: 10/9/2019 10:49:53 PM EDT
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Vote to impeach and let’s have a trial.
I want to see them present a case with evidence. |
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Posted: 10/9/2019 10:49:56 PM EDT
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I'm not reading Conservative Nut House.
Maybe you can post an InfoWars link next... The numbers were provided for you. Sorry it doesn't jive with your world view. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Of the ones that showed battleground state losses, most were almost certainly within the margin of error. - Pennsylvania won by just 44,292 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +1.9, actual was Trump +0.7 - Wisconsin won by just 22,748 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +6.5, actual was Trump +0.7 - Michigan won by just 10,704 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +3.4, actual was Trump +0.3 Of just those 3, Wisconsin is the only one that could be considered diverging significantly from the polled results in part because they expected a larger showing for Stein and Johnson. Given that it's Wisconsin, that's not really going that far out on a limb I don't think. Polling also showed Trump winning Ohio decently, which he did, and eeking out a win in Florida, which he also did. Again, aside from the 5.8% divergence in Wisconsin, polling for battleground states was, no surprise, pretty close. So, again, ignore them if you want but I wouldn't recommend it. I would, however, recommend keeping an eye on Real Clear Politics for the aggregate polling which tends to give a more accurate result since it helps eliminates outliers which both sides like to use. Of course I didn't mention it because it's not really relevant. It was more "forecasting" (aka propaganda), not polling conducted by polling firms.
Maybe you can post an InfoWars link next... The numbers were provided for you. Sorry it doesn't jive with your world view. 1000 people doesn't represent the overall opinion of 350 million people |
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Posted: 10/9/2019 10:51:02 PM EDT
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Take the polls seriously but not literally.
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Posted: 10/9/2019 11:05:54 PM EDT
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Point is, polls can and are manipulated to shape opinion. 1000 people doesn't represent the overall opinion of 350 million people Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Of the ones that showed battleground state losses, most were almost certainly within the margin of error. - Pennsylvania won by just 44,292 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +1.9, actual was Trump +0.7 - Wisconsin won by just 22,748 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +6.5, actual was Trump +0.7 - Michigan won by just 10,704 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +3.4, actual was Trump +0.3 Of just those 3, Wisconsin is the only one that could be considered diverging significantly from the polled results in part because they expected a larger showing for Stein and Johnson. Given that it's Wisconsin, that's not really going that far out on a limb I don't think. Polling also showed Trump winning Ohio decently, which he did, and eeking out a win in Florida, which he also did. Again, aside from the 5.8% divergence in Wisconsin, polling for battleground states was, no surprise, pretty close. So, again, ignore them if you want but I wouldn't recommend it. I would, however, recommend keeping an eye on Real Clear Politics for the aggregate polling which tends to give a more accurate result since it helps eliminates outliers which both sides like to use. Of course I didn't mention it because it's not really relevant. It was more "forecasting" (aka propaganda), not polling conducted by polling firms.
Maybe you can post an InfoWars link next... The numbers were provided for you. Sorry it doesn't jive with your world view. 1000 people doesn't represent the overall opinion of 350 million people As I said, use RCP as a more reliable guide that only counts reputable polling firms and pay attention to their aggregate scores because it helps eliminate outliers which can be used for misrepresentation. |
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Posted: 10/9/2019 11:20:27 PM EDT
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I'm pretty sure Trump was polling behind in several of the battleground states he won. Plus you don't even mention the "95% chance of winning" the electoral college the whole media was talking about on election day. That was the situation Trump was in most of the campaign, plus he had to win at least one solid blue state. Sometimes you actually draw the gutshot straight. |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 7:47:00 AM EDT
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Sure they can. That's why you only pay attention to polls with the methodology publicly published and available for review. It's easy enough to tell if a poll is being skewed for propaganda purposes in the published methodology. And a helpful hint, just because a poll polls more Democrats doesn't automatically make it skewed because there isn't an even breakdown in party. As I said, use RCP as a more reliable guide that only counts reputable polling firms and pay attention to their aggregate scores because it helps eliminate outliers which can be used for misrepresentation. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Of the ones that showed battleground state losses, most were almost certainly within the margin of error. - Pennsylvania won by just 44,292 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +1.9, actual was Trump +0.7 - Wisconsin won by just 22,748 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +6.5, actual was Trump +0.7 - Michigan won by just 10,704 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +3.4, actual was Trump +0.3 Of just those 3, Wisconsin is the only one that could be considered diverging significantly from the polled results in part because they expected a larger showing for Stein and Johnson. Given that it's Wisconsin, that's not really going that far out on a limb I don't think. Polling also showed Trump winning Ohio decently, which he did, and eeking out a win in Florida, which he also did. Again, aside from the 5.8% divergence in Wisconsin, polling for battleground states was, no surprise, pretty close. So, again, ignore them if you want but I wouldn't recommend it. I would, however, recommend keeping an eye on Real Clear Politics for the aggregate polling which tends to give a more accurate result since it helps eliminates outliers which both sides like to use. Of course I didn't mention it because it's not really relevant. It was more "forecasting" (aka propaganda), not polling conducted by polling firms.
Maybe you can post an InfoWars link next... The numbers were provided for you. Sorry it doesn't jive with your world view. 1000 people doesn't represent the overall opinion of 350 million people As I said, use RCP as a more reliable guide that only counts reputable polling firms and pay attention to their aggregate scores because it helps eliminate outliers which can be used for misrepresentation. |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 7:59:12 AM EDT
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Fuck Predictit.
https://www.predictit.org/research "PredictIt is a research project of Victoria University of Wellington. In order to take full advantage of the research opportunities presented by prediction markets like PredictIt, we make our data available to members of the academic community at no cost..." New Zealand can eat a bag of dicks. Buncha commies. |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 8:22:34 AM EDT
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Over 50% of voters now think he should be impeached and removed from office. The deception game is working and we can do nothing about it. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment  And in other Fox news: 
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Posted: 10/10/2019 8:26:56 AM EDT
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You know how I know it is all bullshit?
The Democrats won't even come back for recess to vote in favor of an inquiry. If they were confident in the votes, they would come back from recess today and vote. If by this time next week, there isn't a full House vote to start an inquiry - there won't ever be an impeachment vote. Actions speak louder than words (and polls). |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 8:42:01 AM EDT
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You know how I know it is all bullshit? The Democrats won't even come back for recess to vote in favor of an inquiry. If they were confident in the votes, they would come back from recess today and vote. If by this time next week, there isn't a full House vote to start an inquiry - there won't ever be an impeachment vote. Actions speak louder than words (and polls).  Impeachment BACKFIRES On Moderate Democrats BAD, OUTRAGE And Booing Erupts, People Cry "Coup" |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 8:54:55 AM EDT
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The moderate Dems are busy being booed and heckled in their home districts by grassroots anti-impeachment (or coup, as many of them are saying) protesters:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ix0kWJOqMQuote HistoryQuoted:
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You know how I know it is all bullshit? The Democrats won't even come back for recess to vote in favor of an inquiry. If they were confident in the votes, they would come back from recess today and vote. If by this time next week, there isn't a full House vote to start an inquiry - there won't ever be an impeachment vote. Actions speak louder than words (and polls). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59ix0kWJOqM |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 8:59:20 AM EDT
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Vote to impeach and let’s have a trial. I want to see them present a case with evidence. |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 9:03:29 AM EDT
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Of the ones that showed battleground state losses, most were almost certainly within the margin of error. - Pennsylvania won by just 44,292 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +1.9, actual was Trump +0.7 - Wisconsin won by just 22,748 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +6.5, actual was Trump +0.7 - Michigan won by just 10,704 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +3.4, actual was Trump +0.3 Of just those 3, Wisconsin is the only one that could be considered diverging significantly from the polled results in part because they expected a larger showing for Stein and Johnson. Given that it's Wisconsin, that's not really going that far out on a limb I don't think. Polling also showed Trump winning Ohio decently, which he did, and eeking out a win in Florida, which he also did. Again, aside from the 5.8% divergence in Wisconsin, polling for battleground states was, no surprise, pretty close. So, again, ignore them if you want but I wouldn't recommend it. I would, however, recommend keeping an eye on Real Clear Politics for the aggregate polling which tends to give a more accurate result since it helps eliminates outliers which both sides like to use. Of course I didn't mention it because it's not really relevant. It was more "forecasting" (aka propaganda), not polling conducted by polling firms. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm pretty sure Trump was polling behind in several of the battleground states he won. - Pennsylvania won by just 44,292 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +1.9, actual was Trump +0.7 - Wisconsin won by just 22,748 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +6.5, actual was Trump +0.7 - Michigan won by just 10,704 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +3.4, actual was Trump +0.3 Of just those 3, Wisconsin is the only one that could be considered diverging significantly from the polled results in part because they expected a larger showing for Stein and Johnson. Given that it's Wisconsin, that's not really going that far out on a limb I don't think. Polling also showed Trump winning Ohio decently, which he did, and eeking out a win in Florida, which he also did. Again, aside from the 5.8% divergence in Wisconsin, polling for battleground states was, no surprise, pretty close. So, again, ignore them if you want but I wouldn't recommend it. I would, however, recommend keeping an eye on Real Clear Politics for the aggregate polling which tends to give a more accurate result since it helps eliminates outliers which both sides like to use. Quoted:
Plus you don't even mention the "95% chance of winning" the electoral college the whole media was talking about on election day. They also always tighen into the margin of error in the last week. They are propaganda. |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 9:52:59 AM EDT
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I think the 2016 vote breakdown is largely irrelevant now because Trump is doing the job, keeping most of his promises, and winning new voters. The Dems, meanwhile, can only produce losers and far left loons to run against him. The mainstream American public might be left of center, but not that far left of center. I predict an even larger win in 2020.
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Posted: 10/10/2019 10:11:12 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/10/2019 10:29:32 AM EDT
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Quoted: Does this poll represent the overall opinion of Americans? You do realize that A) not every one of 350M Americans are eligible to vote, B) not every one of those eligible are even registered to vote, and C) of the registered voters barely more than 40% actually vote. Quoted:
Yet notice. They always are slightly off ONLY ONE WAY. Political polling orgs arent stupid. They know what they are doing. They also always tighen into the margin of error in the last week. They are propaganda. The margin of error tightening closer to the election couldn't have anything to do with people's decisions becoming more fixed and inflexible the closer you get to actual decision making time, could it? |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 10:38:11 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/10/2019 10:46:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryHuffpo?
Princeton? CNN? MSNBC?
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Posted: 10/10/2019 10:52:04 AM EDT
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Huffpo? Princeton? CNN? MSNBC? Quote HistoryAND HE’S ALL OUT OF STEEL AND STONE!  Attached File |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 11:03:28 AM EDT
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“Rep. Mark Pocan finally has made the play that Rep. Elijah Cummings called months ago. Those employees of Camp Runamuck who decline to participate in the impeachment inquiry will find their pay docked.” Ops |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 1:51:41 PM EDT
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“Two men who reportedly have assisted Rudy Giuliani in his efforts to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden's family have been arrested and are expected to face charges for allegedly violating campaign finance laws, a federal law enforcement official told ABC News on Thursday.”
They are fucking Russians by the way. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/men-ties-giuliani-arrested-campaign-finance-charges-florida/story?id=66181930&cid=clicksource_4380645_null_hero_hed |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 1:56:54 PM EDT
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“Two men who reportedly have assisted Rudy Giuliani in his efforts to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden's family have been arrested and are expected to face charges for allegedly violating campaign finance laws, a federal law enforcement official told ABC News on Thursday.” They are fucking Russians by the way. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/men-ties-giuliani-arrested-campaign-finance-charges-florida/story?id=66181930&cid=clicksource_4380645_null_hero_hed Quote HistoryQuoted:
“Two men who reportedly have assisted Rudy Giuliani in his efforts to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden's family have been arrested and are expected to face charges for allegedly violating campaign finance laws, a federal law enforcement official told ABC News on Thursday.” They are fucking Russians by the way. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/men-ties-giuliani-arrested-campaign-finance-charges-florida/story?id=66181930&cid=clicksource_4380645_null_hero_hed It was not immediately clear the nature of the charges related to Parnas and Fruman or if the charges have any relation to the work being done by Giuliani. |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 2:05:30 PM EDT
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So who took that poll and what was the methodology? Don't bother answering that because it wasn't a poll. It was a HuffPo "forecast" with no real disclosed methodology at all. Given that I hope no one seriously considers that as a basis on which to discount the last election polling because, contrary to the belief of some, the real polling was actually pretty accurate being only off about 2% individually for most and off by 1% in the aggregate. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/102941/2018-12-26_22-54-11_jpg-1118747.JPG What the raw polling couldn't account for was the Electoral College breakdown. That's why Trump lost the popular vote and eeked out the Electoral College by just 77,744 votes. So, go ahead and discount the polls at your peril just because you don't like what they may show. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Over 50% of voters now think he should be impeached and removed from office. The deception game is working and we can do nothing about it. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-record-support-for-trump-impeachment https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/33281/CwrD0QoXAAE2ryH_jpg-1118631.JPG Don't bother answering that because it wasn't a poll. It was a HuffPo "forecast" with no real disclosed methodology at all. Given that I hope no one seriously considers that as a basis on which to discount the last election polling because, contrary to the belief of some, the real polling was actually pretty accurate being only off about 2% individually for most and off by 1% in the aggregate. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/102941/2018-12-26_22-54-11_jpg-1118747.JPG What the raw polling couldn't account for was the Electoral College breakdown. That's why Trump lost the popular vote and eeked out the Electoral College by just 77,744 votes. So, go ahead and discount the polls at your peril just because you don't like what they may show. How could the polls have been so wrong about the state of the election? There is a great deal of speculation but no clear answers as to the cause of the disconnect, but there is one point of agreement: Across the board, polls underestimated Trump’s level of support. With few exceptions, the final round of public polling showed Clinton with a lead of 1 to 7 percentage points in the national popular vote. State-level polling was more variable, but there were few instances where polls overstated Trump’s support. The fact that so many forecasts were off-target was particularly notable given the increasingly wide variety of methodologies being tested and reported via the mainstream media and other channels. The traditional telephone polls of recent decades are now joined by increasing numbers of high profile, online probability and nonprobability sample surveys, as well as prediction markets, all of which showed similar errors. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/why-2016-election-polls-missed-their-mark/  Why 2016 election polls missed their mark |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 2:08:24 PM EDT
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So the feds just arrested two of Guiliani associates on campaign donation finances.
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Posted: 10/10/2019 2:10:42 PM EDT
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I'll tell you why the polls are wrong: Conservatives are not polled. Look at how many polls heavily favored Democrats in the samples.
At the other end: People often don't let themselves be polled. People are sick and tired of being solicited for everything under the sun and polling is no different. |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 2:11:02 PM EDT
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“Two men who reportedly have assisted Rudy Giuliani in his efforts to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden's family have been arrested and are expected to face charges for allegedly violating campaign finance laws, a federal law enforcement official told ABC News on Thursday.” They are fucking Russians by the way. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/men-ties-giuliani-arrested-campaign-finance-charges-florida/story?id=66181930&cid=clicksource_4380645_null_hero_hed |
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Posted: 10/10/2019 2:16:02 PM EDT
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Another rogue prosecutor on the loose. 
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