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Link Posted: 10/10/2019 2:22:10 PM EDT
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Another rogue prosecutor on the loose.
That’s your excuse?
Timing of the announcement with Giuliani in the news is suspicious to you.
Link Posted: 10/10/2019 2:22:27 PM EDT
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Another rogue prosecutor on the loose.
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Not an excuse...your ability to discern criminality is not to be trusted.

You are anti Trump so you don't count.
Link Posted: 10/10/2019 2:23:58 PM EDT
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I'll tell you why the polls are wrong:  Conservatives are not polled.  Look at  how many polls heavily favored Democrats in the samples.

At the other end:  People often don't let themselves be polled.  People are sick and tired of being solicited for everything  under the sun and polling is no different.
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Except liberals.   They love to tell everyone and everything about their fucked up worldview.
Link Posted: 10/10/2019 2:43:14 PM EDT
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Timing of the announcement with Giuliani in the news is suspicious to you.
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Another rogue prosecutor on the loose.
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Timing of the announcement with Giuliani in the news is suspicious to you.
Liberals want to take down Rudy
Link Posted: 10/10/2019 3:14:29 PM EDT
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Not an excuse...your ability to discern criminality is not to be trusted.

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You seem worried, tovarishch.
Link Posted: 10/10/2019 3:17:57 PM EDT
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Liberals want to take down Rudy
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I'll be very surprised if Rudy is a popular guy around here a year from now.

I don't think he's served the president well at all.

Time will tell.
Link Posted: 10/10/2019 3:23:15 PM EDT
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I'll be very surprised if Rudy is a popular guy around here a year from now.

I don't think he's served the president well at all.

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I just don't think the guys cheese is quite centered on his cracker anymore if you know what mean
Link Posted: 10/10/2019 3:25:03 PM EDT
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I just don't think the guys cheese is quite centered on his cracker anymore if you know what mean
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I'll be very surprised if Rudy is a popular guy around here a year from now.

I don't think he's served the president well at all.

Time will tell.
I just don't think the guys cheese is quite centered on his cracker anymore if you know what mean
He must of had his salad tossed by Donald!
Link Posted: 10/10/2019 3:35:32 PM EDT
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Not quite what I was getting at ha
Link Posted: 10/10/2019 3:53:23 PM EDT
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if the pussy hat fits...
Link Posted: 10/10/2019 3:56:49 PM EDT
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I WANT the House of Representatives to hold an impeachment vote so the issue can move to the senate where Trump will most certainly be able to both bring into focus the democratic mis-deeds, and the attempted coup, then the senate can reject the impeachment and we can move on.

I have even thought that it would be smart for the Republicans in the house to ask for an impeachment vote, just to get the ball rolling into the senate and shortstop all the BS in the house.
The House democrats will drag this out as long as possible, so having republicans ask for the vote would short stop their tactic.  Much like when all the representatives were calling for the dissolution of I.C.E., then once a vote on the issue was requested they backed off.

The great irony would be if republicans asked for an impeachment vote in the house of representatives, the democrats would be faced with voting in favor of something the republicans asked for (which they hate), or voting against impeachment...  The irony of those two choices would be truly entertaining to watch.
Link Posted: 10/10/2019 4:20:59 PM EDT
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This is supposed to be the sampling data for the Fox news poll.

Link Posted: 10/10/2019 5:43:56 PM EDT
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This is supposed to be the sampling data for the Fox news poll.

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That wasn't sampled but rather manufactured to a desired outcome.

But....they have a headline

This isn't going to turn out like they think.
Link Posted: 10/10/2019 6:42:34 PM EDT
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This is supposed to be the sampling data for the Fox news poll.

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If that is accurate, then it's little wonder the results are what they are.

Republicans as sampled against Democrats:

Total Number: -29%
Men: -15%
Women: -38%
White: +2.5%
Black: -87%
Non-White: -78%
White Men: +27%
White Women: -25%
Non-White Men: -73%
Non-White Women: -83%
Under 45: -52%
45+: -4%

In the second section, they sampled Democrats that more strongly identified with the Democrat Party than Republicans that identified with the Republican Party. If I'm reading that correctly. Would also like to see the rest of this section

Again, Republicans vs Democrats sampled.

Urban: -55%
Suburban: -38%
Rural: +25.7%
Suburban Women: -49%

Section three. Also want to see the rest.

White College Degree: -20%
White No Degree: +22%
White Men Degree: +10%
White Men No Degree: +48%
White Women Degree: -49%
White Women No Degree: +11%

Of an interesting note is the Lib/Mod/Cons stats.

Democrats 80%/44%/20%  There is a pretty strong indicator of the fractures in the Democrat party, between the hardcore liberals and the more moderate, even occasionally conservative Democrats.

Republicans 9%/18%/62% Here, while the Republicans don't as strongly identify as conservative, there is drastically less of split in positions.

Overall, a great example of how to abuse statistics.
Link Posted: 10/10/2019 6:57:57 PM EDT
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Of the ones that showed battleground state losses, most were almost certainly within the margin of error.

- Pennsylvania won by just 44,292 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +1.9, actual was Trump +0.7
- Wisconsin won by just 22,748 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +6.5, actual was Trump +0.7
- Michigan won by just 10,704 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +3.4, actual was Trump +0.3

Of just those 3, Wisconsin is the only one that could be considered diverging significantly from the polled results in part because they expected a larger showing for Stein and Johnson. Given that it's Wisconsin, that's not really going that far out on a limb I don't think.

Polling also showed Trump winning Ohio decently, which he did, and eeking out a win in Florida, which he also did.

Again, aside from the 5.8% divergence in Wisconsin, polling for battleground states was, no surprise, pretty close.

So, again, ignore them if you want but I wouldn't recommend it. I would, however, recommend keeping an eye on Real Clear Politics for the aggregate polling which tends to give a more accurate result since it helps eliminates outliers which both sides like to use.

Of course I didn't mention it because it's not really relevant. It was more "forecasting" (aka propaganda), not polling conducted by polling firms.
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I'm pretty sure Trump was polling behind in several of the battleground states he won.
Of the ones that showed battleground state losses, most were almost certainly within the margin of error.

- Pennsylvania won by just 44,292 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +1.9, actual was Trump +0.7
- Wisconsin won by just 22,748 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +6.5, actual was Trump +0.7
- Michigan won by just 10,704 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +3.4, actual was Trump +0.3

Of just those 3, Wisconsin is the only one that could be considered diverging significantly from the polled results in part because they expected a larger showing for Stein and Johnson. Given that it's Wisconsin, that's not really going that far out on a limb I don't think.

Polling also showed Trump winning Ohio decently, which he did, and eeking out a win in Florida, which he also did.

Again, aside from the 5.8% divergence in Wisconsin, polling for battleground states was, no surprise, pretty close.

So, again, ignore them if you want but I wouldn't recommend it. I would, however, recommend keeping an eye on Real Clear Politics for the aggregate polling which tends to give a more accurate result since it helps eliminates outliers which both sides like to use.

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Plus you don't even mention the "95% chance of winning" the electoral college the whole media was talking about on election day.
Of course I didn't mention it because it's not really relevant. It was more "forecasting" (aka propaganda), not polling conducted by polling firms.
Thank you. Drives me crazy seeing people gleefully ignorant towards polling and how it works. For many it's much easier to simply scream out "fake polls!" and dismiss any polling data they don't like.

That and the fact presidential and mid-term polling pre and post 2016 has been extremely accurate. 2016 was just an outlier but the polling was accurate again during the 2018 mid terms.
Link Posted: 10/10/2019 7:04:04 PM EDT
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Thank you. Drives me crazy seeing people gleefully ignorant towards polling and how it works. For many it's much easier to simply scream out "fake polls!" and dismiss any polling data they don't like.

That and the fact presidential and mid-term polling pre and post 2016 has been extremely accurate. 2016 was just an outlier but the polling was accurate again during the 2018 mid terms.
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I'm pretty sure Trump was polling behind in several of the battleground states he won.
Of the ones that showed battleground state losses, most were almost certainly within the margin of error.

- Pennsylvania won by just 44,292 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +1.9, actual was Trump +0.7
- Wisconsin won by just 22,748 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +6.5, actual was Trump +0.7
- Michigan won by just 10,704 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +3.4, actual was Trump +0.3

Of just those 3, Wisconsin is the only one that could be considered diverging significantly from the polled results in part because they expected a larger showing for Stein and Johnson. Given that it's Wisconsin, that's not really going that far out on a limb I don't think.

Polling also showed Trump winning Ohio decently, which he did, and eeking out a win in Florida, which he also did.

Again, aside from the 5.8% divergence in Wisconsin, polling for battleground states was, no surprise, pretty close.

So, again, ignore them if you want but I wouldn't recommend it. I would, however, recommend keeping an eye on Real Clear Politics for the aggregate polling which tends to give a more accurate result since it helps eliminates outliers which both sides like to use.

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Plus you don't even mention the "95% chance of winning" the electoral college the whole media was talking about on election day.
Of course I didn't mention it because it's not really relevant. It was more "forecasting" (aka propaganda), not polling conducted by polling firms.
Thank you. Drives me crazy seeing people gleefully ignorant towards polling and how it works. For many it's much easier to simply scream out "fake polls!" and dismiss any polling data they don't like.

That and the fact presidential and mid-term polling pre and post 2016 has been extremely accurate. 2016 was just an outlier but the polling was accurate again during the 2018 mid terms.
I dunno man, the poll above is pretty

Even a die hard Northwestern Conservative such as yourself can see that.
Link Posted: 10/10/2019 7:06:05 PM EDT
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Thank you. Drives me crazy seeing people gleefully ignorant towards polling and how it works. For many it's much easier to simply scream out "fake polls!" and dismiss any polling data they don't like.

That and the fact presidential and mid-term polling pre and post 2016 has been extremely accurate. 2016 was just an outlier but the polling was accurate again during the 2018 mid terms.
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What you dont seem to understand is they can make the polls say what they want.

The methodology is usually if you look into it.
Link Posted: 10/10/2019 7:09:49 PM EDT
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I WANT the House of Representatives to hold an impeachment vote so the issue can move to the senate where Trump will most certainly be able to both bring into focus the democratic mis-deeds, and the attempted coup, then the senate can reject the impeachment and we can move on.

I have even thought that it would be smart for the Republicans in the house to ask for an impeachment vote, just to get the ball rolling into the senate and shortstop all the BS in the house.
The House democrats will drag this out as long as possible, so having republicans ask for the vote would short stop their tactic.  Much like when all the representatives were calling for the dissolution of I.C.E., then once a vote on the issue was requested they backed off.

The great irony would be if republicans asked for an impeachment vote in the house of representatives, the democrats would be faced with voting in favor of something the republicans asked for (which they hate), or voting against impeachment...  The irony of those two choices would be truly entertaining to watch.
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Wont happen.  They aren't worried
about being exposed.  No one is ever going to do anything to them.

They just dont want to lose the issue
Link Posted: 10/10/2019 7:17:57 PM EDT
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I dunno man, the poll above is pretty

Even a die hard Northwestern Conservative such as yourself can see that.
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I'm pretty sure Trump was polling behind in several of the battleground states he won.
Of the ones that showed battleground state losses, most were almost certainly within the margin of error.

- Pennsylvania won by just 44,292 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +1.9, actual was Trump +0.7
- Wisconsin won by just 22,748 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +6.5, actual was Trump +0.7
- Michigan won by just 10,704 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +3.4, actual was Trump +0.3

Of just those 3, Wisconsin is the only one that could be considered diverging significantly from the polled results in part because they expected a larger showing for Stein and Johnson. Given that it's Wisconsin, that's not really going that far out on a limb I don't think.

Polling also showed Trump winning Ohio decently, which he did, and eeking out a win in Florida, which he also did.

Again, aside from the 5.8% divergence in Wisconsin, polling for battleground states was, no surprise, pretty close.

So, again, ignore them if you want but I wouldn't recommend it. I would, however, recommend keeping an eye on Real Clear Politics for the aggregate polling which tends to give a more accurate result since it helps eliminates outliers which both sides like to use.

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Plus you don't even mention the "95% chance of winning" the electoral college the whole media was talking about on election day.
Of course I didn't mention it because it's not really relevant. It was more "forecasting" (aka propaganda), not polling conducted by polling firms.
Thank you. Drives me crazy seeing people gleefully ignorant towards polling and how it works. For many it's much easier to simply scream out "fake polls!" and dismiss any polling data they don't like.

That and the fact presidential and mid-term polling pre and post 2016 has been extremely accurate. 2016 was just an outlier but the polling was accurate again during the 2018 mid terms.
I dunno man, the poll above is pretty

Even a die hard Northwestern Conservative such as yourself can see that.
I agree, I was just talking specifically about the 2016 election polling.

I usually just go on realclearpolitics to see an overview of multiple polls to get a general idea.
Link Posted: 10/10/2019 7:28:52 PM EDT
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I agree, I was just talking specifically about the 2016 election polling.

I usually just go on realclearpolitics to see an overview of multiple polls to get a general idea.
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I'm pretty sure Trump was polling behind in several of the battleground states he won.
Of the ones that showed battleground state losses, most were almost certainly within the margin of error.

- Pennsylvania won by just 44,292 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +1.9, actual was Trump +0.7
- Wisconsin won by just 22,748 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +6.5, actual was Trump +0.7
- Michigan won by just 10,704 votes. Aggregate polling indicated Clinton +3.4, actual was Trump +0.3

Of just those 3, Wisconsin is the only one that could be considered diverging significantly from the polled results in part because they expected a larger showing for Stein and Johnson. Given that it's Wisconsin, that's not really going that far out on a limb I don't think.

Polling also showed Trump winning Ohio decently, which he did, and eeking out a win in Florida, which he also did.

Again, aside from the 5.8% divergence in Wisconsin, polling for battleground states was, no surprise, pretty close.

So, again, ignore them if you want but I wouldn't recommend it. I would, however, recommend keeping an eye on Real Clear Politics for the aggregate polling which tends to give a more accurate result since it helps eliminates outliers which both sides like to use.

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Plus you don't even mention the "95% chance of winning" the electoral college the whole media was talking about on election day.
Of course I didn't mention it because it's not really relevant. It was more "forecasting" (aka propaganda), not polling conducted by polling firms.
Thank you. Drives me crazy seeing people gleefully ignorant towards polling and how it works. For many it's much easier to simply scream out "fake polls!" and dismiss any polling data they don't like.

That and the fact presidential and mid-term polling pre and post 2016 has been extremely accurate. 2016 was just an outlier but the polling was accurate again during the 2018 mid terms.
I dunno man, the poll above is pretty

Even a die hard Northwestern Conservative such as yourself can see that.
I agree, I was just talking specifically about the 2016 election polling.

I usually just go on realclearpolitics to see an overview of multiple polls to get a general idea.
2016 was an interesting year in that regard
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This is supposed to be the sampling data for the Fox news poll.

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I hate to be the bearer of more bad news but, "oversampling" of Democrats isn't necessarily incorrect.

I mentioned this in a previous post but there is not an even breakdown in numbers in the political parties.

Take a look around at the state of our society and culture. In terms of raw numbers, Republicans are assuredly outnumbered by Dems and Constitutional Conservatives even more so.

You're talking about an electorate that just gave a hardcore Maxist not one but two Presidential terms. That doesn't happen in a center-right nation.

The damage has been done by the Left and we're on the wrong side of demographics.

You all should be preparing accordingly.
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I hate to be the bearer of more bad news but, "oversampling" of Democrats isn't necessarily incorrect.

I mentioned this in a previous post but there is not an even breakdown in numbers in the political parties.

Take a look around at the state of our society and culture. In terms of raw numbers, Republicans are assuredly outnumbered by Dems and Constitutional Conservatives even more so.

You're talking about an electorate that just gave a hardcore Maxist not one but two Presidential terms. That doesn't happen in a center-right nation.

The damage has been done by the Left and we're on the wrong side of demographics.

You all should be preparing accordingly.
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As much as I'd like to call you crazy, I don't disagree.  We are indeed the minority.  
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I hate to be the bearer of more bad news but, "oversampling" of Democrats isn't necessarily incorrect.

I mentioned this in a previous post but there is not an even breakdown in numbers in the political parties.

Take a look around at the state of our society and culture. In terms of raw numbers, Republicans are assuredly outnumbered by Dems and Constitutional Conservatives even more so.

You're talking about an electorate that just gave a hardcore Maxist not one but two Presidential terms. That doesn't happen in a center-right nation.

The damage has been done by the Left and we're on the wrong side of demographics.

You all should be preparing accordingly.
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Democrats are 31 percent not 48, but keep on never trumping
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Democrats are 31 percent not 48, but keep on never trumping
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I hate to be the bearer of more bad news but, "oversampling" of Democrats isn't necessarily incorrect.

I mentioned this in a previous post but there is not an even breakdown in numbers in the political parties.

Take a look around at the state of our society and culture. In terms of raw numbers, Republicans are assuredly outnumbered by Dems and Constitutional Conservatives even more so.

You're talking about an electorate that just gave a hardcore Maxist not one but two Presidential terms. That doesn't happen in a center-right nation.

The damage has been done by the Left and we're on the wrong side of demographics.

You all should be preparing accordingly.
Democrats are 31 percent not 48, but keep on never trumping
Please, don't back up your numbers with any citations or anything useful.

And I'm never what-ing now?

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I'm wondering if you actually know what the word "never" means or, if you're just as reactionary as the left with throwing "racist" out at everything that hurts your feelings, thus rendering it completely meaningless.

As for the demographics side of things, how's the view in that sand you've got your head in? I'm sure Texas really isn't turning purple right before our eyes and it's all just a bad dream... Sleep tight.
Link Posted: 10/10/2019 10:43:20 PM EDT
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It was Joe.

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You know how I know it is all bullshit?

The Democrats won't even come back for recess to vote in favor of an inquiry. If they were confident in the votes, they would come back from recess today and vote.

If by this time next week, there isn't a full House vote to start an inquiry - there won't ever be an impeachment vote.

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You are not wrong.  Part of their strategy was to use the recess to drum up support and of course the media was going to go and help them do it...which of course means clicks/likes for them.

The problem was their case is so garbage and weak it was quickly refuted and a lot of the public aren't interested.  They don't need Bezos and Soros to support them, they already have that.  They need enough of the electorate and from what I've seen a lot of non-political people are rolling their eyes at yet another muh-Russia.
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BTW rogue cops and prosecutors arresting these two "Guliani" guys.

It it reads more like the usual IC operation we've gotten to see along with NSA database abuses.

Pathetic.
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It would be a lot less successful if he weren't, you know, a criminal.
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Please, don't back up your numbers with any citations or anything useful.

And I'm never what-ing now?

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/102941/my_2016_election_ballot_filled_JPG-1119888.JPG

I'm wondering if you actually know what the word "never" means or, if you're just as reactionary as the left with throwing "racist" out at everything that hurts your feelings, thus rendering it completely meaningless.

As for the demographics side of things, how's the view in that sand you've got your head in? I'm sure Texas really isn't turning purple right before our eyes and it's all just a bad dream... Sleep tight.
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The fact that you voted for him means little considering you trash the man non-stop on a conservative (more or less) forum of which the majority of the members feel he is doing a good job considering the hostile environment he works in.

I believe Kangaroo dude voted for him too.
Link Posted: 10/11/2019 12:28:24 AM EDT
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If that is accurate, then it's little wonder the results are what they are.

Republicans as sampled against Democrats:

Total Number: -29%
Men: -15%
Women: -38%
White: +2.5%
Black: -87%
Non-White: -78%
White Men: +27%
White Women: -25%
Non-White Men: -73%
Non-White Women: -83%
Under 45: -52%
45+: -4%

In the second section, they sampled Democrats that more strongly identified with the Democrat Party than Republicans that identified with the Republican Party. If I'm reading that correctly. Would also like to see the rest of this section

Again, Republicans vs Democrats sampled.

Urban: -55%
Suburban: -38%
Rural: +25.7%
Suburban Women: -49%

Section three. Also want to see the rest.

White College Degree: -20%
White No Degree: +22%
White Men Degree: +10%
White Men No Degree: +48%
White Women Degree: -49%
White Women No Degree: +11%

Of an interesting note is the Lib/Mod/Cons stats.

Democrats 80%/44%/20%  There is a pretty strong indicator of the fractures in the Democrat party, between the hardcore liberals and the more moderate, even occasionally conservative Democrats.

Republicans 9%/18%/62% Here, while the Republicans don't as strongly identify as conservative, there is drastically less of split in positions.

Overall, a great example of how to abuse statistics.
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This is supposed to be the sampling data for the Fox news poll.

https://i.redd.it/96a4nbxnhpr31.jpg
If that is accurate, then it's little wonder the results are what they are.

Republicans as sampled against Democrats:

Total Number: -29%
Men: -15%
Women: -38%
White: +2.5%
Black: -87%
Non-White: -78%
White Men: +27%
White Women: -25%
Non-White Men: -73%
Non-White Women: -83%
Under 45: -52%
45+: -4%

In the second section, they sampled Democrats that more strongly identified with the Democrat Party than Republicans that identified with the Republican Party. If I'm reading that correctly. Would also like to see the rest of this section

Again, Republicans vs Democrats sampled.

Urban: -55%
Suburban: -38%
Rural: +25.7%
Suburban Women: -49%

Section three. Also want to see the rest.

White College Degree: -20%
White No Degree: +22%
White Men Degree: +10%
White Men No Degree: +48%
White Women Degree: -49%
White Women No Degree: +11%

Of an interesting note is the Lib/Mod/Cons stats.

Democrats 80%/44%/20%  There is a pretty strong indicator of the fractures in the Democrat party, between the hardcore liberals and the more moderate, even occasionally conservative Democrats.

Republicans 9%/18%/62% Here, while the Republicans don't as strongly identify as conservative, there is drastically less of split in positions.

Overall, a great example of how to abuse statistics.
Lies, damn lies and polling data
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Another rogue prosecutor on the loose.
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Same exact Prosecutor that just went to court to block Dems from getting Trump's taxes. But you knew that, right?
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It would be a lot less successful if he weren't, you know, a criminal.
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He's a Dem so, it kinda goes with the territory.

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The fact that you voted for him means little considering you trash the man non-stop on a conservative (more or less) forum of which the majority of the members feel he is doing a good job considering the hostile environment he works in.

I believe Kangaroo dude voted for him too.
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I don't think you actually know what "Conservative" means.

Hint: It's not a Republican President politically equivalent to a Democrat from 50-60 years ago. The fact you think it is, is why we're screwed.
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You seem worried, tovarishch.
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Not an excuse...your ability to discern criminality is not to be trusted.

You are anti Trump so you don't count.
You seem worried, tovarishch.
Link Posted: 10/11/2019 12:57:26 AM EDT
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Same exact Prosecutor that just went to court to block Dems from getting Trump's taxes. But you knew that, right?
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Another rogue prosecutor on the loose.
Same exact Prosecutor that just went to court to block Dems from getting Trump's taxes. But you knew that, right?
Ouch...that's going to sting.
Link Posted: 10/11/2019 1:01:58 AM EDT
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If that is accurate, then it's little wonder the results are what they are.

Republicans as sampled against Democrats:

Total Number: -29%
Men: -15%
Women: -38%
White: +2.5%
Black: -87%
Non-White: -78%
White Men: +27%
White Women: -25%
Non-White Men: -73%
Non-White Women: -83%
Under 45: -52%
45+: -4%

In the second section, they sampled Democrats that more strongly identified with the Democrat Party than Republicans that identified with the Republican Party. If I'm reading that correctly. Would also like to see the rest of this section

Again, Republicans vs Democrats sampled.

Urban: -55%
Suburban: -38%
Rural: +25.7%
Suburban Women: -49%

Section three. Also want to see the rest.

White College Degree: -20%
White No Degree: +22%
White Men Degree: +10%
White Men No Degree: +48%
White Women Degree: -49%
White Women No Degree: +11%

Of an interesting note is the Lib/Mod/Cons stats.

Democrats 80%/44%/20%  There is a pretty strong indicator of the fractures in the Democrat party, between the hardcore liberals and the more moderate, even occasionally conservative Democrats.

Republicans 9%/18%/62% Here, while the Republicans don't as strongly identify as conservative, there is drastically less of split in positions.

Overall, a great example of how to abuse statistics.
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Shit like this is exactly how they got those ABC Hillary +12 polls in early October.

I think NBC had the  +14 one.
Naturally Nate Cheapsilver, RCP,  and all the others kept those polls in there, ruining the averages.

The message: "Omg guise he cant win srsly.
...stay home plz.. dont donate and tell everyone else to quit.."
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Ouch...that's going to sting.
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Another rogue prosecutor on the loose.
Same exact Prosecutor that just went to court to block Dems from getting Trump's taxes. But you knew that, right?
Ouch...that's going to sting.
Did I forget to mention AG Barr was informed of the investigation back in February and strongly supported it? But, yes, obviously it's a "rogue" prosecutor.
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Another rogue prosecutor on the loose.
That's strange

Wonder when they had contact with Adam Schiff.  Could this be another setup
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Did I forget to mention AG Barr was informed of the investigation back in February and strongly supported it? But, yes, obviously it's a "rogue" prosecutor.
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Another rogue prosecutor on the loose.
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Ouch...that's going to sting.
Did I forget to mention AG Barr was informed of the investigation back in February and strongly supported it? But, yes, obviously it's a "rogue" prosecutor.
Hate to be a a skeptic but have you noticed all the BS indictments and allegations levied against Trump and his campaign?

My faith in any prosecutor, Trump appointee or not, is non existent. From what I've seen, Democrats and the GOPe have managed to sneak a few of their own into the mix of these appointments and they later on become part of the resistance brigade.
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Hate to be a a skeptic but have you noticed all the BS indictments and allegations levied against Trump and his campaign?

My faith in any prosecutor, Trump appointee or not, is non existent. From what I've seen, Democrats and the GOPe have managed to sneak a few of their own into the mix of these appointments and they later on become part of the resistance brigade.
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Well at least there are Hannity's "bombshells".
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Well at least there are Hannity's "bombshells".
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Hate to be a a skeptic but have you noticed all the BS indictments and allegations levied against Trump and his campaign?

My faith in any prosecutor, Trump appointee or not, is non existent. From what I've seen, Democrats and the GOPe have managed to sneak a few of their own into the mix of these appointments and they later on become part of the resistance brigade.
Well at least there are Hannity's "bombshells".
Hannity is a low-IQ conservative grifter boomer with those stupid “tick tock” tweets that turn out to be nothing burgers.
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Hannity is a low-IQ conservative grifter boomer with those stupid “tick tock” tweets that turn out to be nothing burgers.
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The "record" for "bombshells" I remember seeing on Hannity (might be far more but I don't watch him that often) was 4 of them.

You know how many resulted in ANYTHING prosecutorial or Grand Jury actions?

NONE!!!
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