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Posted: 2/3/2016 7:50:06 PM EST
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He will back Rubio after the GOPe cuts him a 7 figure check. His plan all along.
Watch. ETA: All ready happened apparently lol 
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Posted: 2/3/2016 7:51:08 PM EST
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I REALLY want a Cruz Trump ticket. Don't care who leads. Would The Donald take a VP spot? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And the winner is: Rubio I knew it. The candidates got their marching orders from the establishment. Drop out and back Rubio to defeat Cruz and Trump I REALLY want a Cruz Trump ticket. Don't care who leads. Would The Donald take a VP spot? No way the Donald is taking a VP spot and no way is the man-child going to pick Cruz as VP either. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 7:51:27 PM EST
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He will back Rubio after the GOPe cuts him a 7 figure check. His plan all along. Watch. ETA: All ready happened apparently lol Now just watch the rest of the candidates drop out and also endorse Rubio It's so obvious |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 7:51:34 PM EST
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Santorum is easily the most politically irrelevant boob "in" the race.
Kermit the Frog would have had better poll numbers. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 7:52:51 PM EST
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I REALLY want a Cruz Trump ticket. Don't care who leads. Would The Donald take a VP spot? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And the winner is: Rubio I knew it. The candidates got their marching orders from the establishment. Drop out and back Rubio to defeat Cruz and Trump I REALLY want a Cruz Trump ticket. Don't care who leads. Would The Donald take a VP spot? I'm just at a point where I do NOT want Rubio. Trump would be preferable to Cruz, but I'll be tickled fucking pink if we can just avoid getting stuck with squishy faggot moderate Rubio. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 7:53:35 PM EST
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Now just watch the rest of the candidates drop out and also endorse Rubio It's so obvious Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He will back Rubio after the GOPe cuts him a 7 figure check. His plan all along. Watch. ETA: All ready happened apparently lol Now just watch the rest of the candidates drop out and also endorse Rubio It's so obvious Trump and Cruz will need to team up to defeat the establishment I'm afraid. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 7:53:56 PM EST
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I'm just at a point where I do NOT want Rubio. Trump would be preferable to Cruz, but I'll be tickled fucking pink if we can just avoid getting stuck with squishy faggot moderate Rubio. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And the winner is: Rubio I knew it. The candidates got their marching orders from the establishment. Drop out and back Rubio to defeat Cruz and Trump I REALLY want a Cruz Trump ticket. Don't care who leads. Would The Donald take a VP spot? I'm just at a point where I do NOT want Rubio. Trump would be preferable to Cruz, but I'll be tickled fucking pink if we can just avoid getting stuck with squishy faggot moderate Rubio. I have a bad feeling we're going to get stuck with another weak, soft-spoken "moderate conservative" who will most likely get crushed by the Dems once again The GOPe can't seem to learn after McCain and Romney failures |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 7:54:25 PM EST
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Trump and Cruz will need to team up to defeat the establishment I'm afraid. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He will back Rubio after the GOPe cuts him a 7 figure check. His plan all along. Watch. ETA: All ready happened apparently lol Now just watch the rest of the candidates drop out and also endorse Rubio It's so obvious Trump and Cruz will need to team up to defeat the establishment I'm afraid. Cruz would probably jump on Trump's ship if Trump offered, despite all that has happened. Trump will NEVER be anybody's VP. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:02:43 PM EST
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I have a bad feeling we're going to get stuck with another weak, soft-spoken "moderate conservative" who will most likely get crushed by the Dems once again The GOPe can't seem to learn after McCain and Romney failures Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And the winner is: Rubio I knew it. The candidates got their marching orders from the establishment. Drop out and back Rubio to defeat Cruz and Trump I REALLY want a Cruz Trump ticket. Don't care who leads. Would The Donald take a VP spot? I'm just at a point where I do NOT want Rubio. Trump would be preferable to Cruz, but I'll be tickled fucking pink if we can just avoid getting stuck with squishy faggot moderate Rubio. I have a bad feeling we're going to get stuck with another weak, soft-spoken "moderate conservative" who will most likely get crushed by the Dems once again The GOPe can't seem to learn after McCain and Romney failures I mean, realistically we're probably not fucked. It's not like he actually WON Iowa. I'm just fucking pissed that so many people voted for the gay latin Romney in Iowa. Like what the fuck is wrong with these people? Are they NOT tired of losing more than they win, and getting NONE of what they want when they do win? |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:05:37 PM EST
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I mean, realistically we're probably not fucked. It's not like he actually WON Iowa. I'm just fucking pissed that so many people voted for the gay latin Romney in Iowa. Like what the fuck is wrong with these people? Are they NOT tired of losing more than they win, and getting NONE of what they want when they do win? Well, just look at GD, where people tend to be more politically savvy. Many here still think that Rubio is a "real conservative" and is not beholden to the establishment. Now imagine the average voter that picks who they want based on their looks or soundbites on Fox News. We're fucked Rubio finished 3rd....basically tied with Trump. Now imagine when all the other candidates drop and put support behind Rubio and he gets the entire establishment power and backing behind him. Not good. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:06:33 PM EST
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When I saw him endorse Rubio on Greta, I said to my wife, I wonder how much the republican establishment is paying him for that endorsement?
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:07:34 PM EST
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Any guesses? Let's see whose right And whose left? |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:07:59 PM EST
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I REALLY want a Cruz Trump ticket. Don't care who leads. Would The Donald take a VP spot? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And the winner is: Rubio I knew it. The candidates got their marching orders from the establishment. Drop out and back Rubio to defeat Cruz and Trump I REALLY want a Cruz Trump ticket. Don't care who leads. Would The Donald take a VP spot? No way his ego would allow a VP spot. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:08:01 PM EST
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Cruz is unelectable. Sorry, but it's obvious to anyone who isn't a blind follower. And I'm a big Cruz supporter. Rubio has the best chance of winning not only mainstream "middle" where most voters are, but more hispanic voters compared to Romney. And no, he is not not a full blown constitutionalist like Cruz, or Rand Paul. But at this point, Republicans are not going to get more Caucasian voters compared to 2012, and since now the Democratic nominee will be white as well, any voters that where swayed from voting for Obama, to give Romney the edge in white voters, will be erased. And since our hispanic population is outgrowing both black, and white voters, it is simply not possible to win with someone who is unreasonable on immigration policy such as Trump who directly attacks Mexico or other direct country where most illegals are from. We need to gain hispanic voters. We absolutely need to. While I do agree that immigration needs to get under control, and fast, it is also a double edged sword. While you can get a lot of support from your base to show up from this issues, as Trump has shown, it will simply not be enough. We need the most electable, most conservative candidate. And Rubio is the only one who I ca see take votes away from Clinton. Has nothing to do with his conservative record, it has to do with appearance. And the guy is not perfect. Not at all. My guy would be either Rand Paul or Cruz. But I also want to win. And I rather put a Rubio in, and deal with republicans later. Because it's easier to put pressure on your own party by holding them accountable, then it is with someone like Obama, Clinton or Sanders.
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:08:16 PM EST
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I don't see Rubio winning the general election regardless of if its Clinton or sanders. If he gets the nom we're screwed
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:08:43 PM EST
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Cruz is unelectable. Sorry, but it's obvious to anyone who isn't a blind follower. And I'm a big Cruz supporter. Rubio has the best chance of winning not only mainstream "middle" where most voters are, but more hispanic voters compared to Romney. And no, he is not not a full blown constitutionalist like Cruz, or Rand Paul. But at this point, Republicans are not going to get more Caucasian voters compared to 2012, and since now the Democratic nominee will be white as well, any voters that where swayed from voting for Obama, to give Romney the edge in white voters, will be erased. And since our hispanic population is outgrowing both black, and white voters, it is simply not possible to win with someone who is unreasonable on immigration policy such as Trump who directly attacks Mexico or other direct country where most illegals are from. We need to gain hispanic voters. We absolutely need to. While I do agree that immigration needs to get under control, and fast, it is also a double edged sword. While you can get a lot of support from your base to show up from this issues, as Trump has shown, it will simply not be enough. We need the most electable, most conservative candidate. And Rubio is the only one who I ca see take votes away from Clinton. Has nothing to do with his conservative record, it has to do with appearance. And the guy is not perfect. Not at all. My guy would be either Rand Paul or Cruz. But I also want to win. And I rather put a Rubio in, and deal with republicans later. Because it's easier to put pressure on your own party by holding them accountable, then it is with someone like Obama, Clinton or Sanders. Yawn Heard that before with McCain and Romney I'm tired of weak, soft-spoken politically correct moderate, progressive Republicans |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:10:11 PM EST
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Santorum even managed to fuck this up
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:13:16 PM EST
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Santorum even managed to fuck this up Did you watch him? He seemed really uncomfortable. I think he got a phone call from D.C. with his marching orders |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:20:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cruz is unelectable. Sorry, but it's obvious to anyone who isn't a blind follower. And I'm a big Cruz supporter. Rubio has the best chance of winning not only mainstream "middle" where most voters are, but more hispanic voters compared to Romney. And no, he is not not a full blown constitutionalist like Cruz, or Rand Paul. But at this point, Republicans are not going to get more Caucasian voters compared to 2012, and since now the Democratic nominee will be white as well, any voters that where swayed from voting for Obama, to give Romney the edge in white voters, will be erased. And since our hispanic population is outgrowing both black, and white voters, it is simply not possible to win with someone who is unreasonable on immigration policy such as Trump who directly attacks Mexico or other direct country where most illegals are from. We need to gain hispanic voters. We absolutely need to. While I do agree that immigration needs to get under control, and fast, it is also a double edged sword. While you can get a lot of support from your base to show up from this issues, as Trump has shown, it will simply not be enough. We need the most electable, most conservative candidate. And Rubio is the only one who I ca see take votes away from Clinton. Has nothing to do with his conservative record, it has to do with appearance. And the guy is not perfect. Not at all. My guy would be either Rand Paul or Cruz. But I also want to win. And I rather put a Rubio in, and deal with republicans later. Because it's easier to put pressure on your own party by holding them accountable, then it is with someone like Obama, Clinton or Sanders. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:22:42 PM EST
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Cruz is unelectable. Sorry, but it's obvious to anyone who isn't a blind follower. And I'm a big Cruz supporter. Rubio has the best chance of winning not only mainstream "middle" where most voters are, but more hispanic voters compared to Romney. And no, he is not not a full blown constitutionalist like Cruz, or Rand Paul. But at this point, Republicans are not going to get more Caucasian voters compared to 2012, and since now the Democratic nominee will be white as well, any voters that where swayed from voting for Obama, to give Romney the edge in white voters, will be erased. And since our hispanic population is outgrowing both black, and white voters, it is simply not possible to win with someone who is unreasonable on immigration policy such as Trump who directly attacks Mexico or other direct country where most illegals are from. We need to gain hispanic voters. We absolutely need to. While I do agree that immigration needs to get under control, and fast, it is also a double edged sword. While you can get a lot of support from your base to show up from this issues, as Trump has shown, it will simply not be enough. We need the most electable, most conservative candidate. And Rubio is the only one who I ca see take votes away from Clinton. Has nothing to do with his conservative record, it has to do with appearance. And the guy is not perfect. Not at all. My guy would be either Rand Paul or Cruz. But I also want to win. And I rather put a Rubio in, and deal with republicans later. Because it's easier to put pressure on your own party by holding them accountable, then it is with someone like Obama, Clinton or Sanders. "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:25:45 PM EST
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Cruz is unelectable. Sorry, but it's obvious to anyone who isn't a blind follower. And I'm a big Cruz supporter. Rubio has the best chance of winning not only mainstream "middle" where most voters are, but more hispanic voters compared to Romney. And no, he is not not a full blown constitutionalist like Cruz, or Rand Paul. But at this point, Republicans are not going to get more Caucasian voters compared to 2012, and since now the Democratic nominee will be white as well, any voters that where swayed from voting for Obama, to give Romney the edge in white voters, will be erased. And since our hispanic population is outgrowing both black, and white voters, it is simply not possible to win with someone who is unreasonable on immigration policy such as Trump who directly attacks Mexico or other direct country where most illegals are from. We need to gain hispanic voters. We absolutely need to. While I do agree that immigration needs to get under control, and fast, it is also a double edged sword. While you can get a lot of support from your base to show up from this issues, as Trump has shown, it will simply not be enough. We need the most electable, most conservative candidate. And Rubio is the only one who I ca see take votes away from Clinton. Has nothing to do with his conservative record, it has to do with appearance. And the guy is not perfect. Not at all. My guy would be either Rand Paul or Cruz. But I also want to win. And I rather put a Rubio in, and deal with republicans later. Because it's easier to put pressure on your own party by holding them accountable, then it is with someone like Obama, Clinton or Sanders. You are wrong |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:26:44 PM EST
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He's just trying to make amends to gay America by endorsing Rubio.
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:32:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, just look at GD, where people tend to be more politically savvy. Many here still think that Rubio is a "real conservative" and is not beholden to the establishment. Now imagine the average voter that picks who they want based on their looks or soundbites on Fox News. We're fucked Rubio finished 3rd....basically tied with Trump. Now imagine when all the other candidates drop and put support behind Rubio and he gets the entire establishment power and backing behind him. Not good. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I mean, realistically we're probably not fucked. It's not like he actually WON Iowa. I'm just fucking pissed that so many people voted for the gay latin Romney in Iowa. Like what the fuck is wrong with these people? Are they NOT tired of losing more than they win, and getting NONE of what they want when they do win? Well, just look at GD, where people tend to be more politically savvy. Many here still think that Rubio is a "real conservative" and is not beholden to the establishment. Now imagine the average voter that picks who they want based on their looks or soundbites on Fox News. We're fucked Rubio finished 3rd....basically tied with Trump. Now imagine when all the other candidates drop and put support behind Rubio and he gets the entire establishment power and backing behind him. Not good. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:32:25 PM EST
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Rubio must be destroyed. The Establishment inertia is backing him fully now.
He's in a position to take the nomination with ease. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:33:18 PM EST
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I don't see Rubio winning the general election regardless of if its Clinton or sanders. If he gets the nom we're screwed If you look at generational studies and the electorate, he would crush Hillary. If you look at arfcom GD, you would think we are just waiting on Hillary's coronation ceremony, even though she is unelectable. Nobody wants to hear the angry mentally ill mother-in-law all the time. Fingernails on the chalkboard are like a sweet sonata sung by angels compared to the horrendous cackle that violates the atmosphere when the Hilldebeast exhales her anger. Rubio, on the other hand, is able to connect with people from across all walks of life. Neither Hillary nor Cruz are good at that. I like Cruz a lot. I think he's doing God's work in the Senate. To the 20-35yr-old voters, he comes across like one of those know-it-all intellectuals with bad personal hygiene, and they simply will not vote for that. This has nothing to do with what gun-issue GD'ers think. Our minds are already made up. The undeciced, publicly-schooled masses of voters who don't know the Senate from the House will be determining this election based on their feels. Cruz is way over their heads, even when he tries to break it down for the layman. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:34:49 PM EST
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Cruz is unelectable. Sorry, but it's obvious to anyone who isn't a blind follower. And I'm a big Cruz supporter. Rubio has the best chance of winning not only mainstream "middle" where most voters are, but more hispanic voters compared to Romney. And no, he is not not a full blown constitutionalist like Cruz, or Rand Paul. But at this point, Republicans are not going to get more Caucasian voters compared to 2012, and since now the Democratic nominee will be white as well, any voters that where swayed from voting for Obama, to give Romney the edge in white voters, will be erased. And since our hispanic population is outgrowing both black, and white voters, it is simply not possible to win with someone who is unreasonable on immigration policy such as Trump who directly attacks Mexico or other direct country where most illegals are from. We need to gain hispanic voters. We absolutely need to. While I do agree that immigration needs to get under control, and fast, it is also a double edged sword. While you can get a lot of support from your base to show up from this issues, as Trump has shown, it will simply not be enough. We need the most electable, most conservative candidate. And Rubio is the only one who I ca see take votes away from Clinton. Has nothing to do with his conservative record, it has to do with appearance. And the guy is not perfect. Not at all. My guy would be either Rand Paul or Cruz. But I also want to win. And I rather put a Rubio in, and deal with republicans later. Because it's easier to put pressure on your own party by holding them accountable, then it is with someone like Obama, Clinton or Sanders. You are wrong Cruz and Donald Trump are unelectable. The numbers are not in our favor. You may even say, it's too late at this point. I would even love to see Cruz get the nomination, and to watch GD in dismay when he would lose by over 5 points in the general. Almost would, just to teach GD a lesson, but I want to win. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:35:38 PM EST
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Rubio must be destroyed. The Establishment inertia is backing him fully now. He's in a position to take the nomination with ease. Yep, Fox News is getting lots of thrills up its leg lately because they see a clear path to victory for Rubio here Not looking good. I expect to see more candidates drop out and be told to back Rubio |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:37:54 PM EST
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Cruz is unelectable. Sorry, but it's obvious to anyone who isn't a blind follower. And I'm a big Cruz supporter. Rubio has the best chance of winning not only mainstream "middle" where most voters are, but more hispanic voters compared to Romney. And no, he is not not a full blown constitutionalist like Cruz, or Rand Paul. But at this point, Republicans are not going to get more Caucasian voters compared to 2012, and since now the Democratic nominee will be white as well, any voters that where swayed from voting for Obama, to give Romney the edge in white voters, will be erased. And since our hispanic population is outgrowing both black, and white voters, it is simply not possible to win with someone who is unreasonable on immigration policy such as Trump who directly attacks Mexico or other direct country where most illegals are from. We need to gain hispanic voters. We absolutely need to. While I do agree that immigration needs to get under control, and fast, it is also a double edged sword. While you can get a lot of support from your base to show up from this issues, as Trump has shown, it will simply not be enough. We need the most electable, most conservative candidate. And Rubio is the only one who I ca see take votes away from Clinton. Has nothing to do with his conservative record, it has to do with appearance. And the guy is not perfect. Not at all. My guy would be either Rand Paul or Cruz. But I also want to win. And I rather put a Rubio in, and deal with republicans later. Because it's easier to put pressure on your own party by holding them accountable, then it is with someone like Obama, Clinton or Sanders. LOL what????? Republicans will almost CERTAINLY get more white voters than 2012 because the incumbent black President has spent the last four years DEMONIZING the FUCK out of white people. He has single handedly converted the Democratic party from the de facto minority party to the blatantly anti-white party. Good fucking job Barry! Trump ESPECIALLY would do a great job increasing both white share and white turnout. His support is strongest among blue collar whites, and not just blue collar whites in the South, either. He has appealed to them in a way that no candidate has even bothered to try since Pat Buchanan over TWENTY years ago and you want to throw all of that away for Marco fucking Rubio???? What the fuck dude lol. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:38:50 PM EST
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Cruz and Donald Trump are unelectable. The numbers are not in our favor. You may even say, it's too late at this point. I would even love to see Cruz get the nomination, and to watch GD in dismay when he would lose by over 5 points in the general. Almost would, just to teach GD a lesson, but I want to win. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cruz is unelectable. Sorry, but it's obvious to anyone who isn't a blind follower. And I'm a big Cruz supporter. Rubio has the best chance of winning not only mainstream "middle" where most voters are, but more hispanic voters compared to Romney. And no, he is not not a full blown constitutionalist like Cruz, or Rand Paul. But at this point, Republicans are not going to get more Caucasian voters compared to 2012, and since now the Democratic nominee will be white as well, any voters that where swayed from voting for Obama, to give Romney the edge in white voters, will be erased. And since our hispanic population is outgrowing both black, and white voters, it is simply not possible to win with someone who is unreasonable on immigration policy such as Trump who directly attacks Mexico or other direct country where most illegals are from. We need to gain hispanic voters. We absolutely need to. While I do agree that immigration needs to get under control, and fast, it is also a double edged sword. While you can get a lot of support from your base to show up from this issues, as Trump has shown, it will simply not be enough. We need the most electable, most conservative candidate. And Rubio is the only one who I ca see take votes away from Clinton. Has nothing to do with his conservative record, it has to do with appearance. And the guy is not perfect. Not at all. My guy would be either Rand Paul or Cruz. But I also want to win. And I rather put a Rubio in, and deal with republicans later. Because it's easier to put pressure on your own party by holding them accountable, then it is with someone like Obama, Clinton or Sanders. You are wrong Cruz and Donald Trump are unelectable. The numbers are not in our favor. You may even say, it's too late at this point. I would even love to see Cruz get the nomination, and to watch GD in dismay when he would lose by over 5 points in the general. Almost would, just to teach GD a lesson, but I want to win. Which numbers? http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_cruz_vs_clinton-4034.html and that's before she is destroyed in any debate with Cruz 1 on 1. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:39:28 PM EST
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Cruz is unelectable. Sorry, but it's obvious to anyone who isn't a blind follower. And I'm a big Cruz supporter. Rubio has the best chance of winning not only mainstream "middle" where most voters are, but more hispanic voters compared to Romney. And no, he is not not a full blown constitutionalist like Cruz, or Rand Paul. But at this point, Republicans are not going to get more Caucasian voters compared to 2012, and since now the Democratic nominee will be white as well, any voters that where swayed from voting for Obama, to give Romney the edge in white voters, will be erased. And since our hispanic population is outgrowing both black, and white voters, it is simply not possible to win with someone who is unreasonable on immigration policy such as Trump who directly attacks Mexico or other direct country where most illegals are from. We need to gain hispanic voters. We absolutely need to. While I do agree that immigration needs to get under control, and fast, it is also a double edged sword. While you can get a lot of support from your base to show up from this issues, as Trump has shown, it will simply not be enough. We need the most electable, most conservative candidate. And Rubio is the only one who I ca see take votes away from Clinton. Has nothing to do with his conservative record, it has to do with appearance. And the guy is not perfect. Not at all. My guy would be either Rand Paul or Cruz. But I also want to win. And I rather put a Rubio in, and deal with republicans later. Because it's easier to put pressure on your own party by holding them accountable, then it is with someone like Obama, Clinton or Sanders. Yawn Heard that before with McCain and Romney I'm tired of weak, soft-spoken politically correct moderate, progressive Republicans Above. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:39:45 PM EST
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Cruz is unelectable. Sorry, but it's obvious to anyone who isn't a blind follower. And I'm a big Cruz supporter. Rubio has the best chance of winning not only mainstream "middle" where most voters are, but more hispanic voters compared to Romney. And no, he is not not a full blown constitutionalist like Cruz, or Rand Paul. But at this point, Republicans are not going to get more Caucasian voters compared to 2012, and since now the Democratic nominee will be white as well, any voters that where swayed from voting for Obama, to give Romney the edge in white voters, will be erased. And since our hispanic population is outgrowing both black, and white voters, it is simply not possible to win with someone who is unreasonable on immigration policy such as Trump who directly attacks Mexico or other direct country where most illegals are from. We need to gain hispanic voters. We absolutely need to. While I do agree that immigration needs to get under control, and fast, it is also a double edged sword. While you can get a lot of support from your base to show up from this issues, as Trump has shown, it will simply not be enough. We need the most electable, most conservative candidate. And Rubio is the only one who I ca see take votes away from Clinton. Has nothing to do with his conservative record, it has to do with appearance. And the guy is not perfect. Not at all. My guy would be either Rand Paul or Cruz. But I also want to win. And I rather put a Rubio in, and deal with republicans later. Because it's easier to put pressure on your own party by holding them accountable, then it is with someone like Obama, Clinton or Sanders. Yawn Heard that before with McCain and Romney I'm tired of weak, soft-spoken politically correct moderate, progressive Republicans When WAS the last time you had a "conservative" President...or better yet...a REAL Conservative Republican win an election? I'll wait.... |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:40:02 PM EST
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If you look at generational studies and the electorate, he would crush Hillary. If you look at arfcom GD, you would think we are just waiting on Hillary's coronation ceremony, even though she is unelectable. Nobody wants to hear the angry mentally ill mother-in-law all the time. Fingernails on the chalkboard are like a sweet sonata sung by angels compared to the horrendous cackle that violates the atmosphere when the Hilldebeast exhales her anger. Rubio, on the other hand, is able to connect with people from across all walks of life. Neither Hillary nor Cruz are good at that. I like Cruz a lot. I think he's doing God's work in the Senate. To the 20-35yr-old voters, he comes across like one of those know-it-all intellectuals with bad personal hygiene, and they simply will not vote for that. This has nothing to do with what gun-issue GD'ers think. Our minds are already made up. The undeciced, publicly-schooled masses of voters who don't know the Senate from the House will be determining this election based on their feels. Cruz is way over their heads, even when he tries to break it down for the layman. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't see Rubio winning the general election regardless of if its Clinton or sanders. If he gets the nom we're screwed If you look at generational studies and the electorate, he would crush Hillary. If you look at arfcom GD, you would think we are just waiting on Hillary's coronation ceremony, even though she is unelectable. Nobody wants to hear the angry mentally ill mother-in-law all the time. Fingernails on the chalkboard are like a sweet sonata sung by angels compared to the horrendous cackle that violates the atmosphere when the Hilldebeast exhales her anger. Rubio, on the other hand, is able to connect with people from across all walks of life. Neither Hillary nor Cruz are good at that. I like Cruz a lot. I think he's doing God's work in the Senate. To the 20-35yr-old voters, he comes across like one of those know-it-all intellectuals with bad personal hygiene, and they simply will not vote for that. This has nothing to do with what gun-issue GD'ers think. Our minds are already made up. The undeciced, publicly-schooled masses of voters who don't know the Senate from the House will be determining this election based on their feels. Cruz is way over their heads, even when he tries to break it down for the layman. Amnesty is the suicide of conservatism. Rubio will give us amnesty. You seem to prefer suicide by our own hands to death in battle. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:41:56 PM EST
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Just think, all of Jeb's, Christie's, and Kasich's, supporters will likely go to Rubio too.
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:42:08 PM EST
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Which numbers? http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_cruz_vs_clinton-4034.html and that's before she is destroyed in any debate with Cruz 1 on 1. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Cruz is unelectable. Sorry, but it's obvious to anyone who isn't a blind follower. And I'm a big Cruz supporter. Rubio has the best chance of winning not only mainstream "middle" where most voters are, but more hispanic voters compared to Romney. And no, he is not not a full blown constitutionalist like Cruz, or Rand Paul. But at this point, Republicans are not going to get more Caucasian voters compared to 2012, and since now the Democratic nominee will be white as well, any voters that where swayed from voting for Obama, to give Romney the edge in white voters, will be erased. And since our hispanic population is outgrowing both black, and white voters, it is simply not possible to win with someone who is unreasonable on immigration policy such as Trump who directly attacks Mexico or other direct country where most illegals are from. We need to gain hispanic voters. We absolutely need to. While I do agree that immigration needs to get under control, and fast, it is also a double edged sword. While you can get a lot of support from your base to show up from this issues, as Trump has shown, it will simply not be enough. We need the most electable, most conservative candidate. And Rubio is the only one who I ca see take votes away from Clinton. Has nothing to do with his conservative record, it has to do with appearance. And the guy is not perfect. Not at all. My guy would be either Rand Paul or Cruz. But I also want to win. And I rather put a Rubio in, and deal with republicans later. Because it's easier to put pressure on your own party by holding them accountable, then it is with someone like Obama, Clinton or Sanders. You are wrong Cruz and Donald Trump are unelectable. The numbers are not in our favor. You may even say, it's too late at this point. I would even love to see Cruz get the nomination, and to watch GD in dismay when he would lose by over 5 points in the general. Almost would, just to teach GD a lesson, but I want to win. Which numbers? http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_cruz_vs_clinton-4034.html and that's before she is destroyed in any debate with Cruz 1 on 1. The same polls that showed Romney even and winning in some polls over Obama during last election? LoL |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:43:33 PM EST
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Cruz is unelectable. Sorry, but it's obvious to anyone who isn't a blind follower. And I'm a big Cruz supporter. Rubio has the best chance of winning not only mainstream "middle" where most voters are, but more hispanic voters compared to Romney. And no, he is not not a full blown constitutionalist like Cruz, or Rand Paul. But at this point, Republicans are not going to get more Caucasian voters compared to 2012, and since now the Democratic nominee will be white as well, any voters that where swayed from voting for Obama, to give Romney the edge in white voters, will be erased. And since our hispanic population is outgrowing both black, and white voters, it is simply not possible to win with someone who is unreasonable on immigration policy such as Trump who directly attacks Mexico or other direct country where most illegals are from. We need to gain hispanic voters. We absolutely need to. While I do agree that immigration needs to get under control, and fast, it is also a double edged sword. While you can get a lot of support from your base to show up from this issues, as Trump has shown, it will simply not be enough. We need the most electable, most conservative candidate. And Rubio is the only one who I ca see take votes away from Clinton. Has nothing to do with his conservative record, it has to do with appearance. And the guy is not perfect. Not at all. My guy would be either Rand Paul or Cruz. But I also want to win. And I rather put a Rubio in, and deal with republicans later. Because it's easier to put pressure on your own party by holding them accountable, then it is with someone like Obama, Clinton or Sanders. You are wrong Cruz and Donald Trump are unelectable. The numbers are not in our favor. You may even say, it's too late at this point. I would even love to see Cruz get the nomination, and to watch GD in dismay when he would lose by over 5 points in the general. Almost would, just to teach GD a lesson, but I want to win. You want to win.... so you recommend we use the same strategy that got us obliterated in 2008 and 2012? Good plan. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:44:37 PM EST
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Fuck this guy...the fact that he is supporting Rubio proves he is a piece of shit. That is why he didn't get any votes.....people are sick of him.
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:45:53 PM EST
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:46:26 PM EST
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LOL what????? Republicans will almost CERTAINLY get more white voters than 2012 because the incumbent black President has spent the last four years DEMONIZING the FUCK out of white people. He has single handedly converted the Democratic party from the de facto minority party to the blatantly anti-white party. Good fucking job Barry! Trump ESPECIALLY would do a great job increasing both white share and white turnout. His support is strongest among blue collar whites, and not just blue collar whites in the South, either. He has appealed to them in a way that no candidate has even bothered to try since Pat Buchanan over TWENTY years ago and you want to throw all of that away for Marco fucking Rubio???? What the fuck dude lol. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:47:40 PM EST
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Just think, all of Jeb's, Christie's, and Kasich's, supporters will likely go to Rubio too. Yep don't forget Fiorina too, she will endorse Rubio. That should tip Rubio's numbers to beat Trump and Cruz We're fucked. Here we thought we would finally get an outsider (Trump or Cruz) and the GOPe wins again |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:47:46 PM EST
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The same polls that showed Romney even and winning in some polls over Obama during last election? LoL You said the numbers don't agree. I asked which ones. With Hillarys shit record, and sanders socialist agenda. Any R candidate should win. If not, then there isn't any candidate in the GOP primary better than another. If hillary or Sanders can beat any republican, we are already past the tipping point. That's why you put the best man forward. I think any of them can beat the Hillary and sanders because everything they say is easily crushed after 8 years of obama. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:48:55 PM EST
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I almost think his endorsement could be a negative. The proof will be if Sanitarium goes out and campaigns for Rubio or if Rubio just says no thanks, we got it covered...
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:50:25 PM EST
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You said the numbers don't agree. I asked which ones. With Hillarys shit record, and sanders socialist agenda. Any R candidate should win. If not, then there isn't any candidate in the GOP primary better than another. If hillary or Sanders can beat any republican, we are already past the tipping point. That's why you put the best man forward. I think any of them can beat the Hillary and sanders because everything they say is easily crushed after 8 years of obama. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The same polls that showed Romney even and winning in some polls over Obama during last election? LoL You said the numbers don't agree. I asked which ones. With Hillarys shit record, and sanders socialist agenda. Any R candidate should win. If not, then there isn't any candidate in the GOP primary better than another. If hillary or Sanders can beat any republican, we are already past the tipping point. That's why you put the best man forward. I think any of them can beat the Hillary and sanders because everything they say is easily crushed after 8 years of obama. I don't share your optimism, unfortunately. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:51:21 PM EST
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So GOPe endorses GOPe. Big surprise.
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:53:26 PM EST
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Rubio....wtf?
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:56:26 PM EST
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:56:47 PM EST
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:57:30 PM EST
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Posted: 2/3/2016 8:59:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yawn Heard that before with McCain and Romney I'm tired of weak, soft-spoken politically correct moderate, progressive Republicans Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Cruz is unelectable. Sorry, but it's obvious to anyone who isn't a blind follower. And I'm a big Cruz supporter. Rubio has the best chance of winning not only mainstream "middle" where most voters are, but more hispanic voters compared to Romney. And no, he is not not a full blown constitutionalist like Cruz, or Rand Paul. But at this point, Republicans are not going to get more Caucasian voters compared to 2012, and since now the Democratic nominee will be white as well, any voters that where swayed from voting for Obama, to give Romney the edge in white voters, will be erased. And since our hispanic population is outgrowing both black, and white voters, it is simply not possible to win with someone who is unreasonable on immigration policy such as Trump who directly attacks Mexico or other direct country where most illegals are from. We need to gain hispanic voters. We absolutely need to. While I do agree that immigration needs to get under control, and fast, it is also a double edged sword. While you can get a lot of support from your base to show up from this issues, as Trump has shown, it will simply not be enough. We need the most electable, most conservative candidate. And Rubio is the only one who I ca see take votes away from Clinton. Has nothing to do with his conservative record, it has to do with appearance. And the guy is not perfect. Not at all. My guy would be either Rand Paul or Cruz. But I also want to win. And I rather put a Rubio in, and deal with republicans later. Because it's easier to put pressure on your own party by holding them accountable, then it is with someone like Obama, Clinton or Sanders. Yawn Heard that before with McCain and Romney I'm tired of weak, soft-spoken politically correct moderate, progressive Republicans Rubio is way younger than the desiccated Commie or Nurse Ratched, as is Cruz. That is going to matter this time, just as it mattered then. Trump is old, too. |
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Posted: 2/3/2016 9:01:01 PM EST
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Posted: 2/3/2016 9:03:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I mean, realistically we're probably not fucked. It's not like he actually WON Iowa. I'm just fucking pissed that so many people voted for the gay latin Romney in Iowa. Like what the fuck is wrong with these people? Are they NOT tired of losing more than they win, and getting NONE of what they want when they do win? Well, just look at GD, where people tend to be more politically savvy. Many here still think that Rubio is a "real conservative" and is not beholden to the establishment. Now imagine the average voter that picks who they want based on their looks or soundbites on Fox News. We're fucked Rubio finished 3rd....basically tied with Trump. Now imagine when all the other candidates drop and put support behind Rubio and he gets the entire establishment power and backing behind him. Not good. And then Rubio will lose, and 4 years from now guys like Gym will blame Rubio, instead of themselves, when the Dem wins yet again. |
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