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Posted: 8/30/2020 1:36:18 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/30/2020 1:58:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: May I point out....................plane hits building and not even knocks the stucco off....but a jet liner knocks down the world trade center. Just saying. Not even a crack in the stucco. Not a troll or bullshit post. Just an observation. . Jesus, do they not teach physics in school anymore?  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 2:12:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When did “you must log in to prove age” bullshit start on liveleak?  Right? Wtf? |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 2:20:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: May I point out....................plane hits building and not even knocks the stucco off....but a jet liner knocks down the world trade center. Just saying. Not even a crack in the stucco. Not a troll or bullshit post. Just an observation. . reason that was on bugs bunny is because even children could tell that was absurd and it made them laugh. Private aircraft are really light. They also don't fly very fast. The passengers alone on a 767 weigh several times what a little airplane like that weighs. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 2:21:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: May I point out....................plane hits building and not even knocks the stucco off....but a jet liner knocks down the world trade center. Just saying. Not even a crack in the stucco. Not a troll or bullshit post. Just an observation. . "Just asking questions!!"  
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Posted: 8/30/2020 2:49:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Should have tried on the face and took a selfie I know you're joking and I appreciate gallows humor, believe me I do. But, when you're there looking at something like that stuff like you mention doesn't really cross your mind. Unless there's something wrong with you. Afterwards, maybe.  I saw a woman in a tree that was killed in a tornado and a branch was running through her from behind with her heart on it. That's probably not the worst thing I have seen but it stuck out based on your post and the content of this thread. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 8:43:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I remember troofers being such retards, that they expected the Pentagon to have the outline of a jet airliner like when bugs bunny runs through a door and you can see the outline of his floppy ears. I mean the whole reason that was on bugs bunny is because even children could tell that was absurd and it made them laugh. Private aircraft are really light. They also don't fly very fast. The passengers alone on a 767 weigh several times what a little airplane like that weighs. I know this is semantics, however just for information's sake... InB4: Acchthually..... I think you're referring to FAR part 91 prop driven aircraft, but realistically privately owned aircraft can go pretty fucking fast, depending on the plane. They can be jets too. John Travolta owned a Boeing 707, granted he wasn't flying it under part 91. He also owned an Eclipse 500 which would be fucking sweet. Some of the bigger Piper propeller driven products can get up into the mid 300's KTS/hr, and then there are experimentals and aerobatic little buggers that can really cook. Lastly there are people flying, under 91, old WWII fighters and those can do 400+! |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 9:22:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: May I point out....................plane hits building and not even knocks the stucco off....but a jet liner knocks down the world trade center. Just saying. Not even a crack in the stucco. Not a troll or bullshit post. Just an observation. . You fail at observing and clearly fail at understanding mass, impact forces, the effects of heat, and how things are built, both vehicles as well as buildings. You fail at trolling and you are in fact full of it. I would say it is not too much of a stretch to say you fail at life. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:39:41 AM EDT
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I live near a municipal airport and walked up on a twin engine plane that had crashed into the woods behind some houses. This was back in the late 70s. All 4 bodies appeared to be crammed up together in the front of the cabin under the dashboard. It seems that they had stopped at the airport to refuel and the attendant filled it with jet fuel instead of gas!
 They had enough gas in the lines to takeoff and were trying to circle back to the airport. I heard this is pilot error as he is responsible to monitor the refueling situation? 
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Posted: 8/30/2020 10:42:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Must have run out of fuel. On the pro pilot forums...a misfuel is suspected. Commanders can come with turbo props or pistons. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:05:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I live near a municipal airport and walked up on a twin engine plane that had crashed into the woods behind some houses. This was back in the late 70s. All 4 bodies appeared to be crammed up together in the front of the cabin under the dashboard. It seems that they had stopped at the airport to refuel and the attendant filled it with jet fuel instead of gas! They had enough gas in the lines to takeoff and were trying to circle back to the airport. I heard this is pilot error as he is responsible to monitor the refueling situation? 4 highly trained doctors, one a pilot, were flying a piston twin and experienced total whiteout on landing and hit the ground in a nose low attitude. All 4 grown men smashed up under the instrument panel. I'll never forget the feeling of looking at such a tremendous loss of life and skill in one small place. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:36:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When did “you must log in to prove age” bullshit start on liveleak? This. Wtf Eta: saw the pics in the spoiler posts. That's brutal, but to be expected when you suddenly stop and drop |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 11:39:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: May I point out....................plane hits building and not even knocks the stucco off....but a jet liner knocks down the world trade center. Just saying. Not even a crack in the stucco. Not a troll or bullshit post. Just an observation. . "I'm just asking questions." |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 12:28:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: May I point out....................plane hits building and not even knocks the stucco off....but a jet liner knocks down the world trade center. Just saying. Not even a crack in the stucco. Not a troll or bullshit post. Just an observation. . This is why people are supposed to be taught basic physics and chemistry before they are allowed to graduate high school.
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Posted: 8/30/2020 12:35:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know this is semantics, however just for information's sake... InB4: Acchthually..... I think you're referring to FAR part 91 prop driven aircraft, but realistically privately owned aircraft can go pretty fucking fast, depending on the plane. They can be jets too. John Travolta owned a Boeing 707, granted he wasn't flying it under part 91. He also owned an Eclipse 500 which would be fucking sweet. Some of the bigger Piper propeller driven products can get up into the mid 300's KTS/hr, and then there are experimentals and aerobatic little buggers that can really cook. Lastly there are people flying, under 91, old WWII fighters and those can do 400+! He also didn't hit the building so much as scraping it with a wing. He nailed the parking lot at an angle. He didn't head directly into. This is about troofers being absurdly stupid. Not lessons on other aircraft not involved in this wreck. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 12:39:13 PM EDT
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 One Crazy Summer - Rescue Team |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 12:43:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: On the pro pilot forums...a misfuel is suspected. Commanders can come with turbo props or pistons. It’s one of the most misfueled prop planes of the day. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 12:50:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When did “you must log in to prove age” bullshit start on liveleak? I think they made some changes after the Christchurch New Zealand Mosque Shooting. Didn’t the government there start threatening sites or users that had or watched the video? It may be related to that fallout. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 12:57:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I remember troofers being such retards, that they expected the Pentagon to have the outline of a jet airliner like when bugs bunny runs through a door and you can see the outline of his floppy ears. I mean the whole reason that was on bugs bunny is because even children could tell that was absurd and it made them laugh. Private aircraft are really light. They also don't fly very fast. The passengers alone on a 767 weigh several times what a little airplane like that weighs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: May I point out....................plane hits building and not even knocks the stucco off....but a jet liner knocks down the world trade center. Just saying. Not even a crack in the stucco. Not a troll or bullshit post. Just an observation. . reason that was on bugs bunny is because even children could tell that was absurd and it made them laugh. Private aircraft are really light. They also don't fly very fast. The passengers alone on a 767 weigh several times what a little airplane like that weighs. B-25 hit the Empire State Building . It is still standing |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 1:01:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: B-25 hit the Empire State Building . It is still standing Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: May I point out....................plane hits building and not even knocks the stucco off....but a jet liner knocks down the world trade center. Just saying. Not even a crack in the stucco. Not a troll or bullshit post. Just an observation. . reason that was on bugs bunny is because even children could tell that was absurd and it made them laugh. Private aircraft are really light. They also don't fly very fast. The passengers alone on a 767 weigh several times what a little airplane like that weighs. B-25 hit the Empire State Building . It is still standing A B-25 is slow and little compared to a 767 The Empire State Building is build like a brick shot house The twin towers were built cheaply |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 1:03:20 PM EDT
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Almost certain there was very little fuel on the aircraft. Ive seen this before many times.
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Posted: 8/30/2020 1:04:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Almost certain there was very little fuel on the aircraft. Ive seen this before many times. I agree, no fire at all means zero fuel Now did they not check the tanks prior to take off or did somthing crazy happen? Even if someone messes up and put jet A in there we should have still seen a fire |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 1:07:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's rough. Hopefully it was over fast. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah, that was nasty. That's rough. Hopefully it was over fast. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 1:07:34 PM EDT
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Even if the wrong fuel was aboard if would have most likely caught fire.
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Posted: 8/30/2020 1:08:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When did “you must log in to prove age” bullshit start on liveleak? Didn't know this either. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 1:12:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Even if the wrong fuel was aboard if would have most likely caught fire. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 1:14:52 PM EDT
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This thread has turned into a 3 way disaster.
Truthers People who are shocked that Live-Leak now requires a login People who have seen small plane crash victims. I can't look away! |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 1:19:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Aero Commander 500S: Max Gross Weight: 6,750 Lbs Top Speed: 228MPH UA175 Boeing 767-200 Weight of fuel alone: ~66,700Lbs Max Takeoff Weight: 315,000LBS Cruise speed: 528ish MPH Get out of here with your truther bullshit. I was going to post this, thank you. People don't understand science or engineering and then make ridiculous correlations. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 1:26:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: May I point out....................plane hits building and not even knocks the stucco off....but a jet liner knocks down the world trade center. Just saying. Not even a crack in the stucco. Not a troll or bullshit post. Just an observation. . Plane at MTOW is 6750lbs MTOW 767-300 is 400,000lbs Max speed 215 mph at Sea level v VM0 of 412mph iirc So you spot the differences not even factoring in fire. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 1:31:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's one of the most misfueled prop planes of the day. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 1:32:42 PM EDT
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That aircraft had very little forward motion.
Looks like prop strikes along the leading edge of the starboard wing. Bent tips on the propeller still attached to the piston engine laying a distance away from the aircraft is a huge tell. Could have been a catastrophic engine mount failure. Just because there was no fire does not mean it did not have any fuel , the wings are quite intact and fuel tanks may not have been compromised. @goodn , what do you think ? Sad deal either way. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 1:36:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: May I point out....................plane hits building and not even knocks the stucco off....but a jet liner knocks down the world trade center. Just saying. Not even a crack in the stucco. Not a troll or bullshit post. Just an observation. . Never knew a small plane carries more fuel and is faster than a jet liner. Learn something new everyday. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 1:39:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: B-25 hit the Empire State Building . It is still standing This is all it did.  |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 1:43:42 PM EDT
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Fucking liveleak
 Guess I’ll forget about that place. No way I’ll register an account there lol |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 1:44:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That aircraft had very little forward motion. Looks like prop strikes along the leading edge of the starboard wing. Bent tips on the propeller still attached to the piston engine laying a distance away from the aircraft is a huge tell. Could have been a catastrophic engine mount failure. Just because there was no fire does not mean it did not have any fuel , the wings are quite intact and fuel tanks may not have been compromised. @goodn , what do you think ? Sad deal either way. I will have to look more when I am at my computer. Phone screen is too small. Initial guess... It is an aero commander. Some jackwagon filled it with jet a. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 1:46:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd like to know what brand of suitcase that was next to the dead guy. Looks like it must be pretty tough. FPIA First Post Is Autistic.
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Posted: 8/30/2020 1:46:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Plane at MTOW is 6750lbs MTOW 767-300 is 400,000lbs Max speed 215 mph at Sea level v VM0 of 412mph iirc So you spot the differences not even factoring in fire.
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Posted: 8/30/2020 1:48:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: May I point out....................plane hits building and not even knocks the stucco off....but a jet liner knocks down the world trade center. Just saying. Not even a crack in the stucco. Not a troll or bullshit post. Just an observation. . That part in red is bullshit. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 1:49:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When did “you must log in to prove age” bullshit start on liveleak? The whole internet is turning into a children's nursery. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 2:02:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s rough. Hopefully it was over fast. It doesn't get much faster than that. One second alive, the next you are crushed and torn asunder and your soul has left your body. I wonder if they target fixated on the building...or were just so out of energy the plane was uncontrollable. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 2:03:25 PM EDT
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Looks like the smear birds leave when they hit my windows. Atleast the finishing move was painless and quick.
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Posted: 8/30/2020 2:05:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This thread has turned into a 3 way disaster. Truthers People who are shocked that Live-Leak now requires a login People who have seen small plane crash victims. I can't look away! Last fatal I was part of was a part 137 helicopter. Part 137 is agricultural, like crop sprayers. Dude was in a Bell 47, so imagine a dragonfly scaled up for a good visual. When he hit, he hit HARD. He looked like wet dog food to be honest. Most was barely recognizable as "used to be human." |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 2:05:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It doesn't get much faster than that. One second alive, the next you are crushed and torn asunder and your soul has left your body. I wonder if they target fixated on the building...or were just so out of energy the plane was uncontrollable. I think the aircraft was in a stall and possibly in a flat spin. Falling out of the sky with no control. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 2:07:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 5000 lbs at 150mph vs 200000 lbs at 500mph YUGE difference in kinnetic energy Any probably closer to 75, plane was probably on the edge of or fully stalled. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 2:09:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fuck the piece of shit that uploaded that video. For real. Sure, take it, it might help the investigation. But uploader is a POS. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 2:14:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: May I point out....................plane hits building and not even knocks the stucco off....but a jet liner knocks down the world trade center. Just saying. Not even a crack in the stucco. Not a troll or bullshit post. Just an observation. . physics are hard.......85-90 mph in a light weight aircraft versus 500+ mph in a aircraft weighing over 400k.... |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 2:17:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s one of the most misfueled prop planes of the day. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: On the pro pilot forums...a misfuel is suspected. Commanders can come with turbo props or pistons. It’s one of the most misfueled prop planes of the day. Misfueling today should be fucking negligent manslaughter. If I remember correctly, there was either a recommendation or AD for Twin Commanders to get reduced filler necks that won't fit Jet-A hose nozzles. That is THE reason Jet-A nozzles on pumps and trucks have the wide rectangular opening and 100LL/AVGAS is a straight pipe. I'd that plane had AVGAS sized openings and still got Jet-A someone on the ground needs to pay. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 2:27:09 PM EDT
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Did LL remove the video?
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Posted: 8/30/2020 2:28:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: May I point out....................plane hits building and not even knocks the stucco off....but a jet liner knocks down the world trade center. Just saying. Not even a crack in the stucco. Not a troll or bullshit post. Just an observation. .  Your high school completely didn’t prepare you in the area of basic scientific thought and physics. |
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Posted: 8/30/2020 2:29:39 PM EDT
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I don't think they stayed woke.
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