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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:45:16 AM EDT
[#1]
go to UC, are you 12 years old
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:45:52 AM EDT
[#2]
Medical questions are best answered by a physician. Call your doctor and ask.
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:46:21 AM EDT
[#3]
Probably should go to a professional medical expert.
I only come to General Discussion for financial advice. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:46:22 AM EDT
[#4]
See a doctor!
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:47:30 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably should go to a professional medical expert. I only come to General Discussion for financial advice. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:47:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: go to UC, are you 12 years old This. Get on heavy antibiotics as a precaution. Don’t fuck around with spider bites and MRSA. It’s a deep puncture wound and they’ve got nasty bacteria they just injected into your blood stream. That will fuck you up worse than the venom. Personal experience here. My forearm was the size of a football and I got cellulitis (deep skin bacterial infection, can progress to life threatening) Buddy at work spent a month in the hospital on IV antibiotics from a damn spider bite because he didn’t seek medical attention. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:48:58 AM EDT
[#7]
Rub some dirt on it
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:49:34 AM EDT
[#8]
GO TO THE DOCTOR JFC
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:49:46 AM EDT
[#9]
Seeing a doctor is unnecessary unless it gets infected and you need antibiotics. It wouldn’t be infected this quickly.
If it’s gonna become necrotic, either it will or won’t. There is nothing that will prevent such. I really wonder how our ancestors survived without an urgent care or ER on every corner to run to over every little thing |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:52:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This. Get on heavy antibiotics as a precaution. Don’t fuck around with spider bites and MRSA. It’s a deep puncture wound and they’ve got nasty bacteria they just injected into your blood stream. That will fuck you up worse than the venom. Personal experience here. My forearm was the size of a football and I got cellulitis (deep skin bacterial infection, can progress to life threatening) Buddy at work spent a month in the hospital on IV antibiotics from a damn spider bite because he didn’t seek medical attention. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: go to UC, are you 12 years old This. Get on heavy antibiotics as a precaution. Don’t fuck around with spider bites and MRSA. It’s a deep puncture wound and they’ve got nasty bacteria they just injected into your blood stream. That will fuck you up worse than the venom. Personal experience here. My forearm was the size of a football and I got cellulitis (deep skin bacterial infection, can progress to life threatening) Buddy at work spent a month in the hospital on IV antibiotics from a damn spider bite because he didn’t seek medical attention. Username checks out |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:54:22 AM EDT
[#11]
Go to ER. Happened to my father. Tissue under the skin got all necrotic. Literally had a big hole about the size of a ping pong ball packed with gauze under the skin.
Not joking. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:54:25 AM EDT
[#12]
Probably just cut off your toe.
It’s what I recommend for gout too. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:54:34 AM EDT
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I was bitten by one a few years ago between the pinky and ring finger. The itch was terrible. I didn't go to the doctor until i felt nauseous and had a headache.I drained the blister several times. Doc said that was good to drain. Also said the less fatty tissue the better. Skin turned black and eventually healed.
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:54:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Medical questions are best answered by a physician. Call your doctor and ask. This is what I don't get about the internet. The person seems to know what a Recluse bite can lead to, but their first impulse is to start a thread and ask what to do. Wouldn't a person, even if not totally sure, error on the side of caution due to the possible side effects ? My heart was racing one day, I didn't start a thread, I went to the ER lol Maybe it's an age thing and people under 30 that have grown up with the internet are this idiotic when it comes to seeking medical attention. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:54:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Username checks out Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: go to UC, are you 12 years old This. Get on heavy antibiotics as a precaution. Don’t fuck around with spider bites and MRSA. It’s a deep puncture wound and they’ve got nasty bacteria they just injected into your blood stream. That will fuck you up worse than the venom. Personal experience here. My forearm was the size of a football and I got cellulitis (deep skin bacterial infection, can progress to life threatening) Buddy at work spent a month in the hospital on IV antibiotics from a damn spider bite because he didn’t seek medical attention. Username checks out But I didn’t get no super powers. 
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:55:37 AM EDT
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How much do you need that toe?
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:55:50 AM EDT
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What makes you think it's a brown recluse?
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:56:22 AM EDT
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This should be an "I'm in the ER for a Brown Recluse spider bite getting treatment, AMA" thread.
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:56:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I really wonder how our ancestors survived without an urgent care or ER on every corner to run to over every little thing How did these people survive without the internet and cell phones is a better question. It's almost like without the internet, a whole generation of people would be lying dead in the streets because it seems they can't make any decisions themselves without consulting the internet. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:57:01 AM EDT
[#20]
Get to a doctor now.
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:57:19 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Medical questions are best answered by a physician. Call your doctor and ask. The same physicians pushing the vax, right? 
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:57:41 AM EDT
[#22]
Pics of toe?
 Caddyshack - Well? We're Waiting |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:57:50 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably should go to a professional medical expert. I only come to General Discussion for financial advice. 
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:58:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I really wonder how our ancestors survived without an urgent care or ER on every corner to run to over every little thing |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:58:24 AM EDT
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It's all fun and games until losing a toe turns into losing a foot.
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:59:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seeing a doctor is unnecessary unless it gets infected and you need antibiotics. It wouldn’t be infected this quickly. If it’s gonna become necrotic, either it will or won’t. There is nothing that will prevent such. I really wonder how our ancestors survived without an urgent care or ER on every corner to run to over every little thing I don't know when people became such pansies. Doctors these days seem to do nothing more than prescribe something that can be obtained over the counter, slap you with a massive bill, then tell you to have a nice day. Why bother? These days "go to the emergency room!" is the default like it's synonymous with getting some gas. Ridiculous. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 11:59:57 AM EDT
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Go to the ER NOW. I had a friend several years ago that was bitten by one in the thigh and he waited until it was too late to see a doctor. He ended up having several surgeries and regrafts. The poison is a fleash eating toxin. He is still on blood thinners and can't drink alcohol. Don't be a fool.
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Posted: 7/16/2021 12:00:27 PM EDT
[#28]
You'll be fine
Or You'll die 50/50 |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 12:01:39 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Many didn't and died of things we deem almost trivial. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I really wonder how our ancestors survived without an urgent care or ER on every corner to run to over every little thing Google says that male life expectancy in 1900 was 46.3 years
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Posted: 7/16/2021 12:02:10 PM EDT
[#30]
When I got bit on my trigger finger by one went to base hospital, dr’s there put my hand in ice gave me a bunch of antibiotics drew a line on the bite spot and that was all they could do.
Go get checked I was there in 30 min after getting bit and still had problems. Quick action made it a lot better then it could of been. It ate to the first joint but better then the whole finger or hand. I still have trouble with that finger to this day. Those little bastards are some bad motherfuckers. Go get looked at sooner than later. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 12:03:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Medical questions are best answered by a physician. Call your doctor and ask. I understand your advise and agree, although there are Docs here and from what I have read there really isn't anything they can do except watch it progress and excise the necrosis. Yes, antibiotics may be needed and a local Doc will be needed at that point. Although, I have a supply of antibiotics when necessary For those saying go to the Doc, what exactly do you think they can do at this point? Serious question. As far as I know, all they can look at it and say yep, spider bite, come back in a couple days and we will take the toe off. I am hoping they can save enough of the toe so I can still wear flipflops |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 12:03:23 PM EDT
[#32]
"hi guys I just got shot in the belly twice in a botched robbery. the bleeding wont stop, but it doesn't hurt too bad. should I make a dr appointment"
hyperbole for dramatic emphasis but fucking hell people. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 12:03:43 PM EDT
[#33]
Hey, fellas......I just got bit by a black mamba. Should I..........
*THUNK* 
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Posted: 7/16/2021 12:03:45 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Go to the ER NOW. I had a friend several years ago that was bitten by one in the thigh and he waited until it was too late to see a doctor. He ended up having several surgeries and regrafts. The poison is a fleash eating toxin. He is still on blood thinners and can't drink alcohol. Don't be a fool. Would have likely had the same outcome even with early care. There is no anti-toxin. Doctors that prescribe antibiotics for an early spider bite are only doing so to make you happy |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 12:04:16 PM EDT
[#35]
Quoted: my second toe,next to the big toe. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 12:04:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How much do you need that toe? Only to hold my flipflops on |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 12:05:13 PM EDT
[#37]
Go to doc or ER now. Got bit three years ago on the back of my thigh. I waited a week to go to the doctor. The infection got into my bloodstream. I had to go on heavy duty antibiotics that almost drove me to blow my brains out.
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Posted: 7/16/2021 12:05:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Google says that male life expectancy in 1900 was 46.3 years if memory serves that number is deceptive, most people didn't die at 46.3 years, the averages were dragged down by high rates of infant mortality. doesn't negate the point, but everyone seems to have this perception that a hundred+ years ago a dude in his 40s was considered an old man. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 12:05:48 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably should go to a professional medical expert. I only come to General Discussion for financial advice. I have $20 in my pocket. Should I tell my wife we need to introduce a hooker into our marriage? |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 12:07:50 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I understand your advise and agree, although there are Docs here and from what I have read there really isn't anything they can do except watch it progress and excise the necrosis. Yes, antibiotics may be needed and a local Doc will be needed at that point. Although, I have a supply of antibiotics when necessary For those saying go to the Doc, what exactly do you think they can do at this point? Serious question. As far as I know, all they can look at it and say yep, spider bite, come back in a couple days and we will take the toe off. I am hoping they can save enough of the toe so I can still wear flipflops Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Medical questions are best answered by a physician. Call your doctor and ask. I understand your advise and agree, although there are Docs here and from what I have read there really isn't anything they can do except watch it progress and excise the necrosis. Yes, antibiotics may be needed and a local Doc will be needed at that point. Although, I have a supply of antibiotics when necessary For those saying go to the Doc, what exactly do you think they can do at this point? Serious question. As far as I know, all they can look at it and say yep, spider bite, come back in a couple days and we will take the toe off. I am hoping they can save enough of the toe so I can still wear flipflops Doc can prescribe serious antibiotics that will prevent a serious infection before it gets bad. It’s a deep puncture wound, not something to fuck around with. Their fangs have nasty bacteria on them they just put in your body. They defeated your body’s best defense…your skin. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 12:08:10 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I understand your advise and agree, although there are Docs here and from what I have read there really isn't anything they can do except watch it progress and excise the necrosis. Yes, antibiotics may be needed and a local Doc will be needed at that point. Although, I have a supply of antibiotics when necessary For those saying go to the Doc, what exactly do you think they can do at this point? Serious question. As far as I know, all they can look at it and say yep, spider bite, come back in a couple days and we will take the toe off. I am hoping they can save enough of the toe so I can still wear flipflops |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 12:09:19 PM EDT
[#42]
90% chance it’s MRSA (most reported “spider bites” are).
If the infection spreads to your lymph system there is a good chance you could die. Sit here and ponder this while you ask a bunch of goofballs for medical advice over the net. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 12:09:43 PM EDT
[#43]
Still no pics???
 This thread sucks.
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Posted: 7/16/2021 12:10:04 PM EDT
[#44]
I had a bite and went to the doc as soon as I recognized it. He prescribed a round of heavy antibiotics and I didn't get the necrosis. If I touch that spot it is still tender but not mushy anymore. I got bit in 2001.
Don't dick around, get medical attention now. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 12:10:12 PM EDT
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Black widow bite for me hit me three times while I was sleeping at my grandmothers. I ended up rolling on it as we found the spider in the bed. I woke up drenched in sweat and my sheets drenched in sweat, back was in level 9.5 pain, muscles in my back felt like they were being stretched and wrenched apart like the worst Charlie horse ever, and the only way I could describe the pain was 10 people standing around me hitting me with sledgehammers all over my body. Went to the hospital and they gave me morphine which kind of took the edge off but the muscles just hurt so bad for days afterwards.
Call your doctor and ask what you should do at the very least. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 12:10:43 PM EDT
[#46]
just kind of wondering, how do you know it was a brown recluse spider that bit you? and did you save it for positive identification?
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Posted: 7/16/2021 12:10:45 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What makes you think it's a brown recluse? You must not have gotten the memo, everything that can't be easily explained is a spider bite. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 12:11:44 PM EDT
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In the absence of antivenom (not available in the United States), we suggest that patients with dermal necrosis receive only symptomatic and supportive wound care; the use of dapsone should be avoided. Dapsone has been advocated by some, but there is no clear benefit from existing evidence and substantial risk of adverse effects including aplastic anemia, methemoglobinemia, and dapsone hypersensitivity [39,40]. In addition, adverse side effects may confound the monitoring of patients with possible systemic loxoscelism.
As discussed further below, early surgical excision and/or curettage of a necrotic lesion as the lesion is still evolving should be avoided. However, once the lesion is demarcated and clinically stable, debridement and wound care may permit better healing. In one series of eight patients, vacuum-assisted wound closure was used to promote healing of necrotic lesions [41] and, in one animal trial, this method was associated with more rapid wound healing [42]. A small minority of necrotic lesions later require surgical revision of scars, including skin grafting. Several other therapies have been proposed or performed but are not recommended: ?Tetracycline – Application of topical tetracycline has been shown to reduce the progression of dermonecrotic lesions in rabbits exposed to Loxosceles intermedia venom but awaits further study in humans [43]. ?Insufficiently studied treatments – Therapies which have not been adequately studied in humans include antihistamines, glucocorticoids, empiric administration of topical or systemic antibiotics, vasodilators, heparin, nitroglycerin, hyperbaric oxygen, dextran, and local electric shock [40,43-45]. ?Early surgical interventions – Early surgical excision and/or curettage of a necrotic lesion is potentially harmful [44,46-48]. One retrospective study of 31 patients with bites affecting the upper extremity or hand concluded that painful and recurrent wound breakdown occurred more often with early surgical excision [47]. |
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Posted: 7/16/2021 12:13:15 PM EDT
[#49]
antibiotic and steroid is what I have seen in time past. The latter seems to be the most important.
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Posted: 7/16/2021 12:13:36 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know when people became such pansies. Doctors these days seem to do nothing more than prescribe something that can be obtained over the counter, slap you with a massive bill, then tell you to have a nice day. Why bother? These days "go to the emergency room!" is the default like it's synonymous with getting some gas. Ridiculous. Seriously, if some of these guys were girls, they'd be in the ER a week every month cause they were bleeding to death........ |
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