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Again for the slow. Imagine an america right now where trump had lost. Hillary making the calls. Democrat house. Possibly dem senate.  2  new liberal judges on the court. Trump isn't perfect, but he's a fuckload better than the alternative.

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Except that part in red isn't true.

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I wonder if this will finally be the straw that breaks the camel's back?

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I wonder if this will finally be the straw that breaks the camel's back?

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So where do owners join the class action for a violation of their 5th and 14th amendment rights?

5th
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

14th
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.[1]

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Amnesty is the answer and add them to the nfa register

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Amnesty is the answer and add them to the nfa register

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If an amnesty was ever announced
the closets and basements would empty with tons of NFA items

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IF amnesty is announced......my ARs...PTR91....and my Glock 17 will be declared machine
guns ....then be converted later.... They want to play games....I will play them right back...fuck'em

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We are promised easy access to suppressors.

We get a ban on bump stocks.

We would have been better of with Hillary, at least the republicans and NRA would have fought, instead they just followed this morons lead.

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This could literally cost Trump 2020.

His margin is razor thin and this will cause a lot of gun owners to sit it out

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'Fo 'sho!

Everything I have will be registered.

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"Sorry your gal lost."

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All you "don't comply" guys are totally full of shit.  You'll comply, for the exact same reason you don't own other illegal weapons.

Yes someone will sue, and lose... because the .gov's justification for banning bump stocks is identical to their regulating/outlawing full-auto.

"Just compensation " may be a problem for their plan though. But easily fixed.

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No wonder this is being wrapped up after the ellection and long before 2020.

Trumps a politician now

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This shit ends up going through it will be a slippery slope and it's all downhill

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No.....but the ATF seems to be able to change codeifed legal definitions.....remember the shoestring incident......and the original bumpstock ruling.......

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Even the nut case gun grabbers have been quoted in various news interviews that this is going to be caught up in court before it would ever be implemented.

Even if they have the companies list that showed who bought them, they would need to secure warrants to come get them if someone didn't turn it in.

The compliance level if put into place is not going to be what they might think, just the attempt to try and do it this way has many ramifications on a lot of other things that any president now and in the future might think they could get away with.

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This is going to get destroyed in the courts before it ever goes into effect

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Awe the beauty of it, I don't go to public ranges, ever, I honestly don't know anyone in my area that goes to public ranges either.

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curios, huh?

prove ownership of C&R license; i don't think you're really about that

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This could literally cost Trump 2020.

His margin is razor thin and this will cause a lot of gun owners to sit it out

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All you "don't comply" guys are totally full of shit.  You'll comply, for the exact same reason you don't own other illegal weapons.

Yes someone will sue, and lose... because the .gov's justification for banning bump stocks is identical to their regulating/outlawing full-auto.

"Just compensation " may be a problem for their plan though. But easily fixed.

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Damn. No compensation.

That's a lot of moola down the drain for some of those guys.

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So where do owners join the class action for a violation of their 5th and 14th amendment rights?

5th
No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

14th
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the Executive and Judicial officers of a State, or the members of the Legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such State, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such State.

Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may, by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any State shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.[1]

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This may never turn into a shooting war, but shit like this may change quite a few things that the BATF have gotten away with since 1934.  It could very well change a lot of things if enough of the right kind of legals get behind an illegal change in codified law.