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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:38:37 AM EDT
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@swampfoxoutdoors I hate to say, "I told you so..."  I wouldn't bet the farm on that. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:38:43 AM EDT
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Let the class action suits begin...
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:39:48 AM EDT
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can you be arrested for violating an executive order? |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:39:50 AM EDT
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President Kamala Harris thanks you for your support |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:40:15 AM EDT
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Hopefully! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I wonder if this will finally be the straw that breaks the camel's back? |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:41:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Most gun owners have no other choice. Most Typical gun owners talk, I got mine fuck everyone else attitude. The attitude that kills rights. It is wrong and I and many others will continue to fight to show it is wrong. So knock it off with your "Its attitudes like this crap" |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:42:17 AM EDT
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President Kamala Harris thanks you for your support Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No wonder this is being wrapped up after the ellection and long before 2020. Trumps a politician now   Attached File |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:43:14 AM EDT
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Isn't there some unconstitutional grounds because of illegality after the fact? |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:43:52 AM EDT
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Good ole 1000yds John Burns gonna have a field day with bump stock owners.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:44:29 AM EDT
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Is she going to thank Donald Trump too? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/102941/trump_donations1_PNG-755010.JPG   
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:44:50 AM EDT
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Reality has no bearing on this situation. "At Trump's direction, however, the Justice Department submitted a proposed final rule earlier this year that upended the Obama-era interpretation, and concluded that bump-fire stocks, "slide-fire" devices, and devices with certain similar characteristics all fall within the prohibition on machine guns by allowing a "shooter of a semiautomatic firearm to initiate a continuous firing cycle with a single pull of the trigger," and therefore, they are illegal under federal law." Up is down. Black is white. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:46:19 AM EDT
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Damn. No compensation. That's a lot of moola down the drain for some of those guys. I bought mine back when they first came out (eight years ago think). The cost of the BF stock pales in comparison to the cost of the ammo that went down the barrel afterwards. If the ban ends up standing, I'll remove mine and return the rifle to stock. But I won't be destroying it or turning it in without compensation - it will just live with a bunch of other stuff that I have stashed for when the time comes that I want/need it. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:46:37 AM EDT
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... Ex post facto |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:46:43 AM EDT
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That was only 2 year before 2016 and not a single R on the list. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:47:05 AM EDT
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I supported him and I still don't give a shit. There is no excuse for this, if it comes to pass. Fucking none! Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Again for the slow. Imagine an america right now where trump had lost. Hillary making the calls. Democrat house. Possibly dem senate. 2 new liberal judges on the court. Trump isn't perfect, but he's a fuckload better than the alternative. There is no excuse for this, if it comes to pass. Fucking none! |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:47:10 AM EDT
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Well... come and get it then but put the politicians in the front When you do the door to door searches.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:49:15 AM EDT
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Thats called "Cost of doing business". We elected a businessman, not a politician. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That was only 2 year before 2016 and not a single R on the list. Because businessmen can never be politicians... 
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:49:31 AM EDT
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Gun control by executive fiat! ...Awesome precedent to set. So much winning. I can't wait to see how president Kamala Harris re-interprets our gun laws! "President Kamala Harris has re-re-interpreted "Machine Gun" to include any gun with machined parts, you have 90 days to turn them in" |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:49:39 AM EDT
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It could also make congress feel like they need to do something. That could have any number of bad or good results. Probably bad. Nancy Regan's "Just Say No" Campaign might be handy after all. Fuck em, don't mean nothing. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:49:49 AM EDT
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I'm still waiting to hear what actually happened in Las Vegas.. Come on Trump. How about some transparency?
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:50:25 AM EDT
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Fuck be upon ANYONE that supports this bullshit  And ANYONE that supports them. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:52:54 AM EDT
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I am very dissapointed in our MAGA leader about this. I don't know that we even know if the Vegas shooter used any of the planted guns with bumpstocks and even if he did I'm still not on board with banning them. They are pretty dumb, I've shot one, don't own one, but that's not the point. The fact that he is so nieve and is willing to push this agenda with so little actual factual info released on the Vegas incident, I just don't understand why he thinks this is a good idea. The only way I'll support this if we get something much better in trade like abolish the ATF...but we won't.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:53:52 AM EDT
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Yep. Pretty sure this falls under the takings clause. There’s definitely a colorable argument to that effect. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This is going to get destroyed in the courts before it ever goes into effect Letting them ban a piece of plastic and not raising hell outside of a court case let’s them know we are ok with this. Fuck them they need to listen. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:53:55 AM EDT
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Someone will file about the lack of a buyback and how that violates this, that or, the other thing.
The feds, maybe even the aggressive states will demand that the manufacturers provide lists of the distributors and retailers and from there we know what they will do. I can see the anti-2nd states doing some door kicking to get news coverage with the headline that they are serious about getting these "deadly weapons" off the streets. Think about it, one guy committed a terrible crime and look where we are now. Virtually no crimes with NFA MG's since the 34 Act and look what they did in 86. Unfortunately the planets will align again and the gun grabbers will have their day and make another grab. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:54:34 AM EDT
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The 2016 election was proof of the old adage: "When you try to pick up the clean end of the turd, you're still picking up a turd."
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:54:58 AM EDT
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Amnesty is the answer and add them to the nfa register 
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:55:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey, maybe the NRA will shop for a judge to stop Trump....Oh wait.  |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:55:17 AM EDT
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I’m going to go ahead and flamesuiton here. We need to be able to disagree with President Trump on this site. When he’s wrong, he’s wrong. If President Trump denies you of your constitutional 2A rights, and/or denies your property without just compensation, trying to shut down warranted discussion about that with ‘sorry your girl lost hurr durr’ is toxic and moronic. It shouldn’t matter which politician fucks you in the ass. Only that you were, in fact, fucked in the ass; and it’s alright to be (pun intended) butthurt over it.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:56:17 AM EDT
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Fuck amnesty. The President doesn't have the authority to change codified legal definitions. He's not aGod Emperor, he's an elected official and he's constrained by the Constitution. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:58:12 AM EDT
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Haha, ok.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:58:48 AM EDT
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No one in this thread was arguing that until his comment. So one guy has that opinion....the other 99% of us fully realize that T$ is better than Hillary. That doesn't mean we shouldn't criticize him when it's blatantly warranted. You guys are like the Obama sycophants that cheered wildly no matter what he did. Suddenly, a GOP POTUS unilaterally implementing more gun control than the last D POTUS did in 8 years is really no big deal. If this was Obama, you would be crying like a little bitch. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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We get it. He's better than Hillary. No one here is arguing otherwise...literally not a single person. Quoted:
We are promised easy access to suppressors. We get a ban on bump stocks. We would have been better of with Hillary, at least the republicans and NRA would have fought, instead they just followed this morons lead. you guys are too obvious So one guy has that opinion....the other 99% of us fully realize that T$ is better than Hillary. That doesn't mean we shouldn't criticize him when it's blatantly warranted. You guys are like the Obama sycophants that cheered wildly no matter what he did. Suddenly, a GOP POTUS unilaterally implementing more gun control than the last D POTUS did in 8 years is really no big deal. If this was Obama, you would be crying like a little bitch. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:59:23 AM EDT
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I’m going to go ahead and flamesuiton here. We need to be able to disagree with President Trump on this site. When he’s wrong, he’s wrong. If President Trump denies you of your constitutional 2A rights, and/or denies your property without just compensation, trying to shut down warranted discussion about that with ‘sorry your girl lost hurr durr’ is toxic and moronic. It shouldn’t matter which politician fucks you in the ass. Only that you were, in fact, fucked in the ass; and it’s alright to be (pun intended) butthurt over it.  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 11:59:46 AM EDT
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DU's take https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211487200
A bunch of them even think it's unconstitutional without compensation |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:05:17 PM EDT
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I saw it as well but had the mute on. All the non FL GD ARF members made fun of Florida when they ban bump stocks. The rest of the US will be ban. In Florida we are not allowed to purchase rubber bands or pants with belt loops. I wear Yoda pants and drive the speed limit. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:05:45 PM EDT
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Is she going to thank Donald Trump too? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/102941/trump_donations1_PNG-755010.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No wonder this is being wrapped up after the ellection and long before 2020. Trumps a politician now https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/102941/trump_donations1_PNG-755010.JPG 
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:06:50 PM EDT
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Plans are all over the internet on how to make one in your garage. Banning something does not make it magically disappear. There are plans on how to make auto sears, explosives, poisons, bump stocks and hell, even biological weapons (crud, but effective to a smaller degree) All this is, is the government camel getting it's nose further under the tent of freedom. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:07:08 PM EDT
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Good ole 1000yds John Burns gonna have a field day with bump stock owners. 
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:08:04 PM EDT
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Only 0.03% of gun owners bother to show up 2nd Amendment rallies. If 99.97% of gun owners can't even bother to do that...do you really think of them will stand their ground and fight? |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:08:26 PM EDT
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Thats called "Cost of doing business". We elected a businessman, not a politician. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That was only 2 year before 2016 and not a single R on the list. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:09:13 PM EDT
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So I'm sure you can tell us what business Trump was doing in California that involved the incumbent Attorney General that required a $6,000 political bribe. Because businessmen can never be politicians... https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/07/25/us/25bloomberg/25bloomberg-articleLarge.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That was only 2 year before 2016 and not a single R on the list. Because businessmen can never be politicians... https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/07/25/us/25bloomberg/25bloomberg-articleLarge.jpg |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:12:12 PM EDT
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We need multiple states to set-up second amendment zones. These areas offer protection to those with undocumented firearms and components like sanctuary cities do with illegal immigrants... 
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:14:03 PM EDT
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Welcome to the new America. Where illegal aliens get amnesty but bump stock owners do not.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:14:52 PM EDT
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The enemy within |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:16:00 PM EDT
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Only 0.03% of gun owners bother to show up 2nd Amendment rallies. If 99.97% of gun owners can't even bother to do that...do you really think of them will stand their ground and fight? People sit at home and bitch, then when elections don't go their way they want to pull out guns and start acting like ANTIFA Here is an idea, how about get involved politically and make sure the (R) on the ticket isn't a jackwagon. I know, I know, it will involve leaving mom's basement...
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:16:08 PM EDT
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Welcome to the new America. Where illegal aliens get amnesty but bump stock owners do not.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:18:23 PM EDT
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+1 People sit at home and bitch, then when elections don't go their way they want to pull out guns and start acting like ANTIFA Here is an idea, how about get involved politically and make sure the (R) on the ticket isn't a jackwagon. I know, I know, it will involve leaving mom's basement... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Only 0.03% of gun owners bother to show up 2nd Amendment rallies. If 99.97% of gun owners can't even bother to do that...do you really think of them will stand their ground and fight? People sit at home and bitch, then when elections don't go their way they want to pull out guns and start acting like ANTIFA Here is an idea, how about get involved politically and make sure the (R) on the ticket isn't a jackwagon. I know, I know, it will involve leaving mom's basement... I'm worn out. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:19:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:19:56 PM EDT
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Well if she is anything like Obama we won't have to fear Federal gun legislation like we do with Trump. |
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:20:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryThey prosper only when there are threats to the RKBA.
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Posted: 11/29/2018 12:21:51 PM EDT
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As long as Wayne LaPierre's $4,000 duck guns are safe, I guess we still have a country.
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