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When I was a kid, and the power company would turn our electricity off, I quickly learned how to cut the disposable lock off, pull the meter, and remove the plastic insulators off of the prongs to turn the power back on. For a while we even had a meter that would run backwards when inserted upside down, as long as we made sure not to let it run into the negative we'd get away with it. Nowadays the meters are electric, digital and usually the prongs are offset in such a way that it can't be inserted backwards.
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Quoted: i have no idea why people tolerate fucking HOAs. It's like voluntarily living in a totalitarian state....all you do is change the titles of the people 'in charge'. I don't even think the Nazis had laws about what color you painted your house, or what type of shingles you could use. They wouldn't ban flag poles / german flags either. HOAs do though. Fuck those MFers. I'd rather live in a 'hood that made 1980s Beirut seem calm than live in an HOA. I'd rather live in a Detroit hood with a whore house to the left and a crack house to the right. If every house in America was ruled by an HOA, I'd buy a motorhome. Fuck that shit with a rusty hatchet. View Quote Have you ever lived in conditions like that? Based on your post, I'm guessing not. |
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It's neat how few people seem to read before posting. Reinforces my belief that certain members are engaging in "social experiments" with their threads.
Not directed at you medicfrost, your good to go in my book. |
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Yeah, lets all water useless fucking plants in the middle of the biggest drought ever...
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This. It's not like they went to individually owned single family homes and padlocked the spigot. I can't believe they even had that to begin with. Every apartment complex I lived at didn't even have a common spigot, for the very reason this article points out: if people aren't paying for it, they don't care about wasting it needlessly, or abusing the option. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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It says it had to borrow money from its reserves to pay a water bill that was $65,000 over budget. Some examples it cites are over-washing cars, filling children’s wading pools and spraying down sidewalks. The association also claims 75 percent of the tenants are renters who are not conservation conscious. The HOA says the locked spigots are in the outdoor common areas Good lockout. This. It's not like they went to individually owned single family homes and padlocked the spigot. I can't believe they even had that to begin with. Every apartment complex I lived at didn't even have a common spigot, for the very reason this article points out: if people aren't paying for it, they don't care about wasting it needlessly, or abusing the option. My condominium has spigots all over, but they are for the building/landscape. The rules say not to use the water for washing cars. |
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Why anyone would not do some research the bylaws of their HOA is beyond me.
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Yup, I never return. since you're so unhappy with my threads, stop visiting them. You've been here for all of 2 hours, and act like you know me. GTFO. Oh, and welcome back. In before you seem familiar View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If the Association is paying for the water, that means that this must be condos or townhouses, not individual houses. This was suppose to be a CA hate thread! HAARRUMMMPPHHHH!!!!! HAARRUMMMPPHHHH!!!!! Yeah, this guy keeps posting threads with clickbait titles. I said so in the one he made a couple hours ago, but it seems like he never even returns to the thread after he makes them. Yup, I never return. since you're so unhappy with my threads, stop visiting them. You've been here for all of 2 hours, and act like you know me. GTFO. Oh, and welcome back. In before you seem familiar No shit. http://www.ar15.com/member/member.html?id=434474 Seems pretty suspicious....... |
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from the article... “There’s no water in there whatsoever. They turned the water off also,” he said. Sounds like cutting the locks off might be a satisfying, but ultimately useless, FU gesture, since the HOA has had the water turned off. Not sure why they bothered with putting locks on the spigots, unless they wanted to deliver a satisfying FU gesture to the tenants. |
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Yeah, this guy keeps posting threads with clickbait titles. I said so in the one he made a couple hours ago, but it seems like he never even returns to the thread after he makes them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If the Association is paying for the water, that means that this must be condos or townhouses, not individual houses. This was suppose to be a CA hate thread! HAARRUMMMPPHHHH!!!!! HAARRUMMMPPHHHH!!!!! Yeah, this guy keeps posting threads with clickbait titles. I said so in the one he made a couple hours ago, but it seems like he never even returns to the thread after he makes them. Will I get banned for saying Medicfrost thread? |
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That is hilarious, because Sacramento & surrounding ares are some of the worst water wasters in crap O' fornia.
Half of Sacramento has no meters at all, and pays a flat 42 bucks a month: http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2015/04/10/nearly-half-of-sacramento-homes-have-no-water-meters/ |
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The clickbait thread title was to fool people into thinking that an HOA was going around and locking the spigots on people's free-standing houses that they own.
The reality of it is that this is a condominium association and the owners of the units only own the "air inside" and the rest of the building is common element. The spigots are supplied by the association. |
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Why anyone would not do some research the bylaws of their HOA is beyond me. View Quote Lol the residents use excess water to the tune of $65,000. Take action to prevent it and then the people bitch it could be worse they could have slapped them with a special assessment and jacked up the dues to pay for it. Don't get me wrong I Despise HOAs and would never live in one but they aren't wrong here. |
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The clickbait thread title was to fool people into thinking that an HOA was going around and locking the spigots on people's free-standing houses that they own. The reality of it is that this is a condominium association and the owners of the units only own the "air inside" and the rest of the building is common element. The spigots are supplied by the association. View Quote What's your other screen name? |
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When condos become rentals they go downhill pretty fast. Renters won't pay attention to rules because it's owners who are fined or otherwise sanctioned for their violations.
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from the article... Sounds like cutting the locks off might be a satisfying, but ultimately useless, FU gesture, since the HOA has had the water turned off. Not sure why they bothered with putting locks on the spigots, unless they wanted to deliver a satisfying FU gesture to the tenants. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Lol, what lock? I don't remember seeing a lock. from the article... “There’s no water in there whatsoever. They turned the water off also,” he said. Sounds like cutting the locks off might be a satisfying, but ultimately useless, FU gesture, since the HOA has had the water turned off. Not sure why they bothered with putting locks on the spigots, unless they wanted to deliver a satisfying FU gesture to the tenants. They may turn them on when crews are doing landscape work. They're likely doing SOME irrigation and want to control it. |
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Lol the residents use excess water to the tune of $65,000. Take action to prevent it and then the people bitch it could be worse they could have slapped them with a special assessment and jacked up the dues to pay for it. Don't get me wrong I Despise HOAs and would never live in one but they aren't wrong here. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Why anyone would not do some research the bylaws of their HOA is beyond me. Lol the residents use excess water to the tune of $65,000. Take action to prevent it and then the people bitch it could be worse they could have slapped them with a special assessment and jacked up the dues to pay for it. Don't get me wrong I Despise HOAs and would never live in one but they aren't wrong here. Not to mention the CC&R's for most HOA's are rather a bit thick and dense for most people....If you're not a lawyer, at best most people just glance at them |
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When condos become rentals they go downhill pretty fast. Renters won't pay attention to rules because it's owners who are fined or otherwise sanctioned for their violations. Maybe some exceptions like luxury condos. View Quote What do you base this off of? In my experience, most condo associations allow the unit owners to rent their unit out. I have never seen that effect the value of the condo. Sure, if there is garbage all over the place and degenerate looking people all over, it will effect the value. But barring that, the ability to rent out a condo will increase it's value, not decrease it. |
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The clickbait thread title was to fool people into thinking that an HOA was going around and locking the spigots on people's free-standing houses that they own. The reality of it is that this is a condominium association and the owners of the units only own the "air inside" and the rest of the building is common element. The spigots are supplied by the association. What's your other screen name? How many times are you going to ask me the same question? It's not witty or funny. It's already been proven that I have never had any other username here. |
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What do you base this off of? In my experience, most condo associations allow the unit owners to rent their unit out. I have never seen that effect the value of the condo. Sure, if there is garbage all over the place and degenerate looking people all over, it will effect the value. But barring that, the ability to rent out a condo will increase it's value, not decrease it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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When condos become rentals they go downhill pretty fast. Renters won't pay attention to rules because it's owners who are fined or otherwise sanctioned for their violations. Maybe some exceptions like luxury condos. What do you base this off of? In my experience, most condo associations allow the unit owners to rent their unit out. I have never seen that effect the value of the condo. Sure, if there is garbage all over the place and degenerate looking people all over, it will effect the value. But barring that, the ability to rent out a condo will increase it's value, not decrease it. Well for one, mortgage companies will skew the value of a condo based on the percentage of units that are being rented vs. units occupied by owners. Two, 'pride-in-ownership'.......renters have none. Renters often are the biggest rule breakers, and source of the most issues pertaining to "right to quiet enjoyment" |
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http://www.hardcasesurvival.com/bogota-ti-lock-picks-6pc/ Really easy to use And that is a really chump lock View Quote That's the best way to do it, leave no visible damage. California residents may end up in jail for looking at that website, and probably prison if they make an order. |
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Well for one, mortgage companies will skew the value of a condo based on the percentage of units that are being rented vs. units occupied by owners. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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When condos become rentals they go downhill pretty fast. Renters won't pay attention to rules because it's owners who are fined or otherwise sanctioned for their violations. Maybe some exceptions like luxury condos. What do you base this off of? In my experience, most condo associations allow the unit owners to rent their unit out. I have never seen that effect the value of the condo. Sure, if there is garbage all over the place and degenerate looking people all over, it will effect the value. But barring that, the ability to rent out a condo will increase it's value, not decrease it. Well for one, mortgage companies will skew the value of a condo based on the percentage of units that are being rented vs. units occupied by owners. Two, 'pride-in-ownership'.......renters have none. Renters often are the biggest rule breakers, and source of the most issues pertaining to "right to quiet enjoyment" |
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Quoted: Quoted: Why not fill a watering can in your kitchen sink, then carry it to your garden? It's also really easy to hook up a split valve to a washing machine feed and run a hose outside from it. You can also put a threaded connector to almost any faucet inside your house. It's a small hassle, but, definitely an easy work around. Edit: Worth repeating. |
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What the mortgage company appraises the place for is pretty meaningless. As long as you are putting enough down, it doesn't matter at all. Again, this does not effect the value unless these lower class people are actually outside doing their dirty deeds when the perspective buyer comes to look at the place. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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When condos become rentals they go downhill pretty fast. Renters won't pay attention to rules because it's owners who are fined or otherwise sanctioned for their violations. Maybe some exceptions like luxury condos. What do you base this off of? In my experience, most condo associations allow the unit owners to rent their unit out. I have never seen that effect the value of the condo. Sure, if there is garbage all over the place and degenerate looking people all over, it will effect the value. But barring that, the ability to rent out a condo will increase it's value, not decrease it. Well for one, mortgage companies will skew the value of a condo based on the percentage of units that are being rented vs. units occupied by owners. Two, 'pride-in-ownership'.......renters have none. Renters often are the biggest rule breakers, and source of the most issues pertaining to "right to quiet enjoyment" Doesn't matter? No, not unless you want to buy or sell. |
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You mean the guys that put them on? yeah that's a good idea. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I would call up the maintenance people who handle fixing stuff outside the house, and have them cut off the locks. Simple. You mean the guys that put them on? yeah that's a good idea. It is actually, Every time they ever do anything for me, I slip then a hundred. Some of those guys would happily do damn near anything I asked of them. |
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Quoted: There is no fucking way. I'd be cutting those locks off. http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2015/08/14/north-highlands-neighborhood-says-hoa-abruptly-locked-water-spigots-citing-costs/ NORTH HIGHLANDS (CBS13) — Residents in a North Highlands neighborhood woke up to find locks on their water spigots after their homeowners association turned off some of its water without warning. Mike Louden is retired and loves tinkering in his drought-resistant garden. But he says his roses are in jeopardy. "I hate to see it die. I spent all these years keeping it going,” he said. Louden and his neighbors woke up on Thursday to find locks on their water spigots. He says the HOA cut them off without warning. "There’s no water in there whatsoever. They turned the water off also,” he said. "If we’re supposed to limit our water use even more then let us know before you lock us out,” said resident Maritza Carouth. But the HOA tells CBS13 the residents’ water wasting is sending the association’s utility bill through the roof. It says it had to borrow money from its reserves to pay a water bill that was $65,000 over budget. Some examples it cites are over-washing cars, filling children’s wading pools and spraying down sidewalks. The association also claims 75 percent of the tenants are renters who are not conservation conscious. "That’s absolutely nothing to do with me,” Louden said. He owns his home and says he’s not a water waster. He feels he and his roses should not fall victim to irresponsible neighbors. "I pay $200 in association dues, and they say not everybody pays,” he said. "I pay.” The HOA says the locked spigots are in the outdoor common areas and that water systems inside the homes are not affected. View Quote Interesting. Are residents' yards defined as common areas in this HOA? If so, GD should consider the implications of that. These people bought houses in a place where their yard is not their property. |
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id solder a spigot under the kitchen sink, and get a hose. run hot water too. more energy wasted.
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Interesting. Are residents' yards defined as common areas in this HOA? If so, GD should consider the implications of that. These people bought houses in a place where their yard is not their property. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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There is no fucking way. I'd be cutting those locks off. http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2015/08/14/north-highlands-neighborhood-says-hoa-abruptly-locked-water-spigots-citing-costs/ NORTH HIGHLANDS (CBS13) — Residents in a North Highlands neighborhood woke up to find locks on their water spigots after their homeowners association turned off some of its water without warning. Mike Louden is retired and loves tinkering in his drought-resistant garden. But he says his roses are in jeopardy. "I hate to see it die. I spent all these years keeping it going,” he said. Louden and his neighbors woke up on Thursday to find locks on their water spigots. He says the HOA cut them off without warning. "There’s no water in there whatsoever. They turned the water off also,” he said. "If we’re supposed to limit our water use even more then let us know before you lock us out,” said resident Maritza Carouth. But the HOA tells CBS13 the residents’ water wasting is sending the association’s utility bill through the roof. It says it had to borrow money from its reserves to pay a water bill that was $65,000 over budget. Some examples it cites are over-washing cars, filling children’s wading pools and spraying down sidewalks. The association also claims 75 percent of the tenants are renters who are not conservation conscious. "That’s absolutely nothing to do with me,” Louden said. He owns his home and says he’s not a water waster. He feels he and his roses should not fall victim to irresponsible neighbors. "I pay $200 in association dues, and they say not everybody pays,” he said. "I pay.” The HOA says the locked spigots are in the outdoor common areas and that water systems inside the homes are not affected. Interesting. Are residents' yards defined as common areas in this HOA? If so, GD should consider the implications of that. These people bought houses in a place where their yard is not their property. That's what makes me think these are townhouses. |
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Quoted: That's what makes me think these are townhouses. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: There is no fucking way. I'd be cutting those locks off. http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2015/08/14/north-highlands-neighborhood-says-hoa-abruptly-locked-water-spigots-citing-costs/ NORTH HIGHLANDS (CBS13) — Residents in a North Highlands neighborhood woke up to find locks on their water spigots after their homeowners association turned off some of its water without warning. Mike Louden is retired and loves tinkering in his drought-resistant garden. But he says his roses are in jeopardy. "I hate to see it die. I spent all these years keeping it going,” he said. Louden and his neighbors woke up on Thursday to find locks on their water spigots. He says the HOA cut them off without warning. "There’s no water in there whatsoever. They turned the water off also,” he said. "If we’re supposed to limit our water use even more then let us know before you lock us out,” said resident Maritza Carouth. But the HOA tells CBS13 the residents’ water wasting is sending the association’s utility bill through the roof. It says it had to borrow money from its reserves to pay a water bill that was $65,000 over budget. Some examples it cites are over-washing cars, filling children’s wading pools and spraying down sidewalks. The association also claims 75 percent of the tenants are renters who are not conservation conscious. "That’s absolutely nothing to do with me,” Louden said. He owns his home and says he’s not a water waster. He feels he and his roses should not fall victim to irresponsible neighbors. "I pay $200 in association dues, and they say not everybody pays,” he said. "I pay.” The HOA says the locked spigots are in the outdoor common areas and that water systems inside the homes are not affected. Interesting. Are residents' yards defined as common areas in this HOA? If so, GD should consider the implications of that. These people bought houses in a place where their yard is not their property. That's what makes me think these are townhouses. I saw it a non-townhouse setting earlier this year. I did a closing for a house in the $600k range (that's a very, very expensive house around here). Single family, standalone structure. Only the house itself belonged to the homeowner. Everything else - including driveway and the attached back deck - were the property of the HOA. The development was on water and had its own marina with boat slips, storage, etc, which is (I suppose) someone would pay what they did under those conditions. |
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One well placed cigarette butt will end that policy in a hurry.
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What do you base this off of? In my experience, most condo associations allow the unit owners to rent their unit out. I have never seen that effect the value of the condo. Sure, if there is garbage all over the place and degenerate looking people all over, it will effect the value. But barring that, the ability to rent out a condo will increase it's value, not decrease it. Well for one, mortgage companies will skew the value of a condo based on the percentage of units that are being rented vs. units occupied by owners. Two, 'pride-in-ownership'.......renters have none. Renters often are the biggest rule breakers, and source of the most issues pertaining to "right to quiet enjoyment" Doesn't matter? No, not unless you want to buy or sell. LOL, you are talking in circles. For the last time, the ability to rent a condo increases the value, it does not decrease it. |
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I would be hard pressed not to respond violently to folks padlocking any goddamn thing on my home.
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You just signed up yesterday and you have already posted 95 times? Yeah, suuuurrrrrrrrre......... http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn291/Variable556/7d293a747a197ba9f4cab600d489bad3_zpsvzpev18r.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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The clickbait thread title was to fool people into thinking that an HOA was going around and locking the spigots on people's free-standing houses that they own. The reality of it is that this is a condominium association and the owners of the units only own the "air inside" and the rest of the building is common element. The spigots are supplied by the association. What's your other screen name? How many times are you going to ask me the same question? It's not witty or funny. It's already been proven that I have never had any other username here. You just signed up yesterday and you have already posted 95 times? Yeah, suuuurrrrrrrrre......... http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn291/Variable556/7d293a747a197ba9f4cab600d489bad3_zpsvzpev18r.jpg You don't believe it? Are they fake posts? |
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He owns his home and says he’s not a water waster. He feels he and his roses should not fall victim to irresponsible neighbors. “I pay $200 in association dues, and they say not everybody pays,” he said. “I pay.” The HOA says the locked spigots are in the outdoor common areas and that water systems inside the homes are not affected. View Quote Welcome to socialism! |
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The clickbait thread title was to fool people into thinking that an HOA was going around and locking the spigots on people's free-standing houses that they own. The reality of it is that this is a condominium association and the owners of the units only own the "air inside" and the rest of the building is common element. The spigots are supplied by the association. What's your other screen name? How many times are you going to ask me the same question? It's not witty or funny. It's already been proven that I have never had any other username here. So what was your previous username? |
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The clickbait thread title was to fool people into thinking that an HOA was going around and locking the spigots on people's free-standing houses that they own. The reality of it is that this is a condominium association and the owners of the units only own the "air inside" and the rest of the building is common element. The spigots are supplied by the association. What's your other screen name? How many times are you going to ask me the same question? It's not witty or funny. It's already been proven that I have never had any other username here. So what was your previous username? Umm, John. But that was a different forum. |
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LOL, you are talking in circles. For the last time, the ability to rent a condo increases the value, it does not decrease it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Well for one, mortgage companies will skew the value of a condo based on the percentage of units that are being rented vs. units occupied by owners. Two, 'pride-in-ownership'.......renters have none. Renters often are the biggest rule breakers, and source of the most issues pertaining to "right to quiet enjoyment" Doesn't matter? No, not unless you want to buy or sell. LOL, you are talking in circles. For the last time, the ability to rent a condo increases the value, it does not decrease it. Is that a promise? Because you post like a troll. I don't suppose you deal much in the LA real estate market? Regardless, while the the ability to rent a unit may make it more desirable to a buyer, the fact remains that condos with an over abundance or units occupied by renters LOWERS the value of the property, and can adversely effect not only a buyers ability to acquire financing, but also a sellers ability to maximize their profit. That's life in the real world. I'm not sure what world you live in, but thanks for playing. |
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You guys complain about a HOA.
But you forgot this back in June. http://libertynews.com/2015/06/state-cuts-off-water-to-california-town-city-managers-fear-water-will-run-out-within-days/ http://www.recordnet.com/article/20150615/NEWS/150619752 |
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I cannot blame the HOA for doing this.
They are working in the best interest of the Member/unit owners. The renters dont give a shit. Biut the local water company along with county and state officials can fine the HOA up into the hundreds of thousand and combined into the millions of dollars. Worst case scenerio is they shut off the water as they are doing to other private communities and small towns. Lets face it. The State needs the water for their public buildings lawns since they are exempted from laws.. |
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