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Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:12:50 PM EDT
[#1]
Stickin' it to the poors, as usual.
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:14:06 PM EDT
[#2]
Yep, lets put all of California on the electric system. What could possibly go wrong
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:14:36 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:16:31 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:16:45 PM EDT
[#5]
One of the lessons I learned reading Blockade The Diary of an Austrian Middle-Class Woman 1914-1924 was one had to act beyond these sorts of laws if you wanted to live.
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:17:05 PM EDT
[#6]
Ummmmmmm isn't natural gas heating way, way more efficient than electric? Like I can't see how this would be a net positive for CO2 reduction because their power grid is definitely not all renewables.
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:20:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:20:46 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:23:05 PM EDT
[#9]
They should ban natural gas powerplants as well. Solar and wind only.
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:24:31 PM EDT
[#10]
Democrats love suffering.
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:24:47 PM EDT
[#11]
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Ummmmmmm isn't natural gas heating way, way more efficient than electric? Like I can't see how this would be a net positive for CO2 reduction because their power grid is definitely not all renewables.
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That's not the point of the sanction.
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:25:10 PM EDT
[#12]
They'll have Californians eating bugs and chopping of their dicks in no time.
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:26:09 PM EDT
[#13]
Drat! Those damn kids and their dog foiled our plans, again! We'll get them, next time!  

Let us retreat back to our white supremecy headquarters and plan other ways to... Provide low income families with affordable heating.
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:29:45 PM EDT
[#14]
What's that state that made it the law that they have to follow all California greenie laws?

lol be they're enjoying it immensely.

Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:31:31 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:33:06 PM EDT
[#16]
I’m going to Home Depot to buy a bunch of gas water heaters, then sell them to Californians after the ban.
It’ll be like pre ban mags on a larger scale.
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:33:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:35:44 PM EDT
[#18]
And please don't import energy from Arizona or Nevada.  We wouldn't want you to virtue signal clean energy and then under the table suck electricity from the grid generated from anything but pixie farts and unicorn smiles.
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:35:48 PM EDT
[#19]
What about beef?  
They should ban beef, and beef products, too.

Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:36:29 PM EDT
[#20]
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Yep, NG is quite a bit more efficient when used for heating.

Electric heaters are cheaper to install & maintain than propane furnaces.  But that difference is made up within a few years  - at today's prices. Electricity rates will most likely soar, of course.
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:36:38 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:37:06 PM EDT
[#22]
So what do you do about gas fireplaces or ranges or propane grills? I mean come on California! Think of the damn planet! Let’s GOOOO
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:39:11 PM EDT
[#23]
Virtue signalling once again.  People in Cali rarely have need to heat their home.
To show them up, perhaps Wyoming should ban surfing
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:46:24 PM EDT
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You can keep them but if you ever try to sell your house that's when it's enforced.
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:48:16 PM EDT
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Virtue signalling once again.  People in Cali rarely have need to heat their home.
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Northern Cali is not tropical...

But, I do like your analogy ...
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:50:01 PM EDT
[#26]
What a bunch of dumb asses.

I guess methane from cows is the sole fuel source for heating gas.
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:52:46 PM EDT
[#27]
Screw California, they make me want to release the hundreds of plastic bags when the wind is right.
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:53:34 PM EDT
[#28]
Can things like this be fought as unconstitutional?  I don't have a right to heat my home with a common and proven energy source?  The State can just ban whatever the fuck it wants?  I know, this is more rhetorical, but I don't think the founders intended the state's to be abke to be the new totalitarian monarchy.
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 7:54:54 PM EDT
[#29]
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It's a brilliant idea! Seriously, what COULD go wrong??  


Link Posted: 9/23/2022 8:00:12 PM EDT
[#30]
By design -- to increase their control of the little people.

'Ok, no one can use anything but energy type "A".  '


and soon after:

"Ok, energy type "A" is in low supply, so we're going to restrict it via rolling black-outs"
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 8:03:15 PM EDT
[#31]
Turning fuel to heat is much more efficient than turning fuel to heat to mechanical energy to electricity and back to heat with line losses.
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 8:06:20 PM EDT
[#32]
The residents of Arvin thank you
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 8:09:35 PM EDT
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A bunch of chefs in LA were pissed because there was a recent ban or attempted ban on new gas stoves.
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 8:16:20 PM EDT
[#34]
Send them some blankets
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 8:17:05 PM EDT
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IBTL!...
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 8:18:11 PM EDT
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Virtue signalling once again.  People in Cali rarely have need to heat their home.
To show them up, perhaps Wyoming should ban surfing
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Yup, 99% of Cali doesn't get below 65% ever...
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 8:20:19 PM EDT
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They'll have Californians eating bugs and chopping of their dicks in no time.
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I've always wondered how many...red lines...the California members here have redrawn...or is it just there are none
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 9:13:13 PM EDT
[#38]
We know...
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 9:14:49 PM EDT
[#39]
What a bunch of fucking retards.
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 9:19:38 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/23/2022 9:21:17 PM EDT
[#41]
The Golden State will ban the sale of all new natural gas-fired space heaters and water heating appliances by 2030
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 9:24:22 PM EDT
[#42]
More for us
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 9:25:49 PM EDT
[#43]
So now government has succeeded in creating a black market for heaters and the fuel to run them.
Actually, this might work in Northern California.
They can buy wood burning heaters and stoves, go into the forests and gather up all that dead brush
The state basically refuses to clean up.
Could really cut down on those wildfires while simultaneously heating stoves for warmth and cooking.
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 9:32:38 PM EDT
[#44]
There goes VA’s heating.
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 9:35:56 PM EDT
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Yep, NG is quite a bit more efficient when used for heating.

Electric heaters are cheaper to install & maintain than propane furnaces.  But that difference is made up within a few years  - at today's prices. Electricity rates will most likely soar, of course.
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Our gas hot water boiler and baseboard heat has been very reliable since we bought the house in 2005.  Only thing that ever failed was the thermocouple.  
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 9:36:47 PM EDT
[#46]
I want to see CA ban itself into the stone ages for the sake of wokeness and progression.

When they've had enough and whine and complain, I shall laugh.



Link Posted: 9/23/2022 9:37:15 PM EDT
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Virtue signalling once again.  People in Cali rarely have need to heat their home.
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NY wants to do the same thing.  We get down below zero in the winter time.  Fuck that, people will go to VT or PA to buy gas appliances if they need to.
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 9:42:25 PM EDT
[#48]
Good luck with that.
Link Posted: 9/23/2022 9:43:48 PM EDT
[#49]
The annual investment in maintaining natural gas distribution systems is massive. Why would any board of directors continue to  invest in the infrastructure if the state is banning new appliances.

Link Posted: 9/23/2022 10:02:08 PM EDT
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And what did they replace that NG with? Coal power? Wind power that occurs every few days? Solar here and there? It sure has been a super cloudy monsoon season so I guess no power during that 3 month period.
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