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Posted: 6/15/2019 11:21:10 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/15/2019 11:22:22 PM EDT
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Do you want a kill dozer? Cause that’s how you get a kill dozer.
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Posted: 6/15/2019 11:22:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The dream was an elevated rail system to bypass what has been some of the country’s worst traffic, whisking commuters from the farmland and swelling suburbs of West Oahu into the heart of Honolulu. The 20-mile route parallels one of the world’s most glorious tropical shorelines.  Simpsons - Monorail Song |
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Posted: 6/15/2019 11:23:41 PM EDT
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Good luck. Doesn't matter whether the state is D or R. I've been through eminent domain in a conservative state and start to finish was 7 years.
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Posted: 6/15/2019 11:24:50 PM EDT
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Liberals want EVERYTHING for free.
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Posted: 6/15/2019 11:43:59 PM EDT
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I think I should invest in Caterpillar stock.
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Posted: 6/15/2019 11:47:59 PM EDT
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Communists care neither about laws nor morality. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How can they not pay?
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Posted: 6/16/2019 12:15:54 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/16/2019 12:19:24 AM EDT
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I think I should invest in Caterpillar stock. 
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Posted: 6/16/2019 12:36:07 AM EDT
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I love how the government acts with such righteous indignation when you owe them money... but they sure fucking take their damned time when they owe you money. Especially worse, is when they owe you money, because they STEAL YOUR FUCKING LAND ON THEIR TERMS, AND THEN STILL FAIL TO PAY YOU WHAT THEY PROMISED YOU!
Fuck the government. Next time, I think these Farmers should just say "No!" plant their feet on the ground and dare the Government to move them. Our founding fathers would be so ashamed of us. But honestly, what else do you expect from that Banana Republic we call California. https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-bullet-train-cash-20190610-story.html Better yet (you'd need about 50 people to do this); put signs up on the property and about a mile or two out in both directions. Park a giant fucking rock on the tracks in both directions and start disassembling the tracks with heavy machinery. They defaulted on payment, so the land is yours again. Start selling the rail line for scrap immediately and dynamite (with the proper explosive permits) the rail beds, get up the lumber for tracks and sell the scrap. Destroy the grading with front end loaders. LOL Watch the hilarity. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 12:38:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/16/2019 2:37:30 AM EDT
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they were never going to use the money they have to pay for it. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 2:44:05 AM EDT
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Seems like it would be a no brained in court. You have compensate people. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How can they not pay? (Which I find funny, BTW, because I know certain arfcom heads are close to exploding because they swore the state was close to bankruptcy.) |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 2:49:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Especially when you brag out of the other side of your mouth about the $22 billion budget surplus. (Which I find funny, BTW, because I know certain arfcom heads are close to exploding because they swore the state was close to bankruptcy.) |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 2:51:49 AM EDT
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I love how the government acts with such righteous indignation when you owe them money... but they sure fucking take their damned time when they owe you money. Especially worse, is when they owe you money, because they STEAL YOUR FUCKING LAND ON THEIR TERMS, AND THEN STILL FAIL TO PAY YOU WHAT THEY PROMISED YOU!
Fuck the government. Next time, I think these Farmers should just say "No!" plant their feet on the ground and dare the Government to move them. Our founding fathers would be so ashamed of us. But honestly, what else do you expect from that Banana Republic we call California. https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-bullet-train-cash-20190610-story.html |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 2:52:46 AM EDT
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Communists care neither about laws nor morality. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How can they not pay? |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 3:07:19 AM EDT
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The farmers need to demand to either get paid now or price of food goes up 25%. That requires farmers to unite, and we know that won't happen. Commies win round 2. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 3:10:34 AM EDT
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I think I should invest in Caterpillar stock. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 3:12:09 AM EDT
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Soup cans everywhere shudder in fear. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 6/16/2019 3:16:09 AM EDT
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OP... you show in AZ. Who cares about what CA does. Sooner that place falls into the ocean the better.
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Posted: 6/16/2019 3:19:52 AM EDT
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They wasted billions of dollars lining the pockets of their cronies........at this point, the rail project really smells like a laundering scheme.
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Posted: 6/16/2019 3:20:07 AM EDT
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We had a member that claimed he could kill anything within a 1000 yards but sure backed the quasi eminent domaining of bump stocks. 
He uses SFP Leupolds, he can't be that good. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 3:20:52 AM EDT
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Everything remotely associated with Obama Feinswine and every other Democrat was or is a laundering scheme to pay back or line the pockets of their buddies and themselves Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They wasted billions of dollars lining the pockets of their cronies........at this point, the rail project really smells like a laundering scheme. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 3:25:53 AM EDT
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They just dont? The government seems to have selective competence. They always know who owes them, but can't seem to get their shit together when they owe someone. FUCK The government. Especially when they FORCE you to "Sell" your land to them and never pay you. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How can they not pay? The government seems to have selective competence. They always know who owes them, but can't seem to get their shit together when they owe someone. FUCK The government. Especially when they FORCE you to "Sell" your land to them and never pay you. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 3:25:55 AM EDT
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Dead politicians don't act like this. 
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Posted: 6/16/2019 3:27:42 AM EDT
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OP... you show in AZ. Who cares about what CA does. Sooner that place falls into the ocean the better. 
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Posted: 6/16/2019 3:29:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What are you going to do about it? Lawsuits cost money, and when the judge tosses the suit because they're a fucking clown, you're out that money. This is the same state that started paying bills with IOU's a few years back. They give no fucks. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 3:32:08 AM EDT
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There is land near Hanford, Washington, and Tremont, Illinois, that the US government took during WWII. Not all landowners were ever paid. Hanford was a nuclear site and Tremont was a POW camp and training base. FDR was not too concerned about property rights or eminent domain, or anything else. This the situation AOC, Bernie and Elizabeth Warren would like to be in today. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 5:36:50 AM EDT
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I bet Feinstein's husband got paid. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 5:55:49 AM EDT
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what kind of fucked up convoluted bureaucracy is this
The rail authority's unusual relationship with consultants is another issue. The agency appointed attorney Odell as director of real property in September. Odell reports to a consultant, Kristina Assouri of WSP, whose title is chief of real property. Assouri reports up the line to WSP's Roy Hill, who is on suspension pending an ethics review. Hill reports to Chief Operating Officer Joe Hedges, a state employee. Rail authority Chief Executive Brian Kelly said he had initiated a job-by-job review of such complicated lines of authority and hoped to streamline the organization, putting state employees in charge of key functions. Neither Odell nor Assouri can sign a check. That function resides with the state controller after a payment goes through a tangled state bureaucracy. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 6:17:04 AM EDT
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Love Terminal Partners v. United States gives one answer. Quote HistorySome one should propose a plan to make the homes of all the judges who wrote that decision into parks and parking lots like they tried in NH against Justice Souter, Assuming their homes are in residential zones and no in-home business programs going on they have zero cash flow, therefore the city or county where they live can take them for free. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 6:19:50 AM EDT
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This is how you get a fleet of Killdozers all crawling towards Sacramento |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 6:21:13 AM EDT
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Post more. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dead politicians don't act like this. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 7:25:40 AM EDT
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Seems like it would be a no brained in court. You have compensate people. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 7:35:10 AM EDT
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This is a California problem, not a national problem. If California citizens won't act on it, don't care.
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Posted: 6/16/2019 7:36:08 AM EDT
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Politicians and judges should be forced to go in person to remove people from their land instead of hiding behind police. Do you have a newsletter? |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 7:37:44 AM EDT
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Who do you think pays the judges? Who decides which judges get appointed to higher courts? It's so cute when people say "go to court" when something like this happens, or when we get an anti 2A law. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 7:51:37 AM EDT
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Who do you think pays the judges? Who decides which judges get appointed to higher courts? It's so cute when people say "go to court" when something like this happens, or when we get an anti 2A law. 
Judges don't give a fuck who pays them. Judges do whatever they want. For example, if a judge requests $25 million for FY 2020, and the legislature or county commission responds with $20 million, the judge will issue a court order requiring $25 million in funding. If that order is disregarded, the judge initiates contempt proceedings, and starts throwing people in jail until they comply with the court order. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 8:12:17 AM EDT
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It’s solveable... https://s3.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/personalexperience/0/0/8/649008_v2.gif You want a killdozer? Because this is how you get a killdozer. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 8:25:13 AM EDT
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In a classic example, the US Army Corps of Engineers took an old man's (Felix Uithoven's) farm land and home in northeast Mississippi to build a recreation area along the bank of the Tennessee-Tombigbee canal the Corps was building. It was 163 acres and a house in his family since the 1840s that was willed to him by his country doctor father.
Felix fought the taking via eminent domain up through the courts and lost. The Corps bulldozed his house and took his land and gave him money for it. Fast forward several years, the Corps never got around to building the recreation area and declared the Uithoven property excess and offered it for sale to the highest bidder. Uithoven argued that, since the Corps never developed the land for the purpose they took it from him, he should get his land back. He lost that case, too. Part of the story (before the Corps decided that they didn't need the property): https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1986/12/26/a-fight-to-the-end/166093d5-5161-4891-9bba-e69e07340672/?utm_term=.1ca9608f964a The sale notice (about half way down): https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2011-07-08/html/2011-16916.htm Like the Lord, the government giveth and the government taketh---but unlike the Lord, not to the same people. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 9:28:45 AM EDT
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OP... you show in AZ. Who cares about what CA does. Sooner that place falls into the ocean the better. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 9:31:57 AM EDT
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This is a California problem, not a national problem. If California citizens won't act on it, don't care. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 9:47:12 AM EDT
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CoC prevents me from saying what should be done. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 10:41:03 AM EDT
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Well, they set the trend when they stole the land from Mexico.....so there's that!
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Posted: 6/16/2019 12:03:25 PM EDT
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It has always amused me to hear people talk about how the government can't take things from you without due compensation. That's been a lie since government started...
Friends of the family, growing up, had some really nice land for an ammunition terminal during WWII. There was some chicanery about how it was chosen, because there was plenty of other land along the Columbia River that might have been used, and which would have been better choices for siting. However, they were immigrant Finns, weren't connected in with the local power structure, and it was their land that got taken. They weren't paid for it, either--Just shoved off it. Land was used for an ammunition terminal up until the 1960s, when it was "declared surplus" and sold to one of the local port authorities. By that time, the husband was dead, due to the stress of trying to fight all this, and the wife was living in much reduced circumstances. Their land had been a fairly prosperous dairy, and the family home was still standing when they sold the land to the port authority, but they wouldn't even let her have the tiny parcel with the family home on it that her husband had built himself. Whole thing was a travesty, from start to finish. Lots of that crap went on--And, still does. You don't have property rights in this country, you've got temporary permission to use their land, and if it's convenient to them, they'll take it from you. |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 12:06:14 PM EDT
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Communists care neither about laws nor morality. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How can they not pay? The .gov can (and does) do whatever the fuck they want. Not a motherfucking thing you or I can do about it either. I need a .gif from rounders movie. When Teddy KGB says "I'll do what ever the fuckkkk I please".gif |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 12:06:42 PM EDT
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Seems like it would be a no brained in court. You have compensate people. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How can they not pay? 
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Posted: 6/16/2019 12:10:43 PM EDT
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Same thin happened in Seattle with a monorail.
Over $100,000,000 was collected, then the project was cancelled. Most of the funds came from a $5 fee on car tabs, so all state residents all paid for Seattle. Money's gone.......... Don't know what's going on with the property that was purchase. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Monorail_Project |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 12:18:31 PM EDT
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Same thin happened in Seattle with a monorail. Over $100,000,000 was collected, then the project was cancelled. Most of the funds came from a $5 fee on car tabs, so all state residents all paid for Seattle. Money's gone.......... Don't know what's going on with the property that was purchase. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Monorail_Project |
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Posted: 6/16/2019 12:19:27 PM EDT
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How can they not pay? |
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