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I don’t enjoy a gun jammed into my Johnson when I try to drive a car. Maybe that’s just me.
2-3 o’clock here. |
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Quoted: I've carried at the appendix for 24 years. The ru-tarded ones are those who shoot themselves while doing so. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Really ru-tarded You'll shoot your balls off or hit the femoral artery. Don't This... |
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It really depends on where your belt line is. People's bodies conform to where they wear their belt. I don't "sag" my pants by any means but my belt line rides slightly lower than normal I guess. So appendix isn't comfortable for me. 3:30-4 position is what's comfortable for me.
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Maybe too high on the waist. Do you wear mom jeans?
Butt of gun pivoting outward, holster loops on trigger guard area or past it, to pull butt in. Also try canting gun muzzle ahead of butt so the grip is more parallel to your waistline. |
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Quoted: What is the proper holster then? I even tried a tier 1 View Quote https://www.jmcustomkydex.com/p/AIWBWC2-G19.html |
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Quoted: 5'11" 168# 32" waist .... can't figure it out View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/476319/20210608_182917-1974670.jpg I aiwb carry this in the summer from time to time. I'm 5'8" and 165#. Easy peasy. Don't want to shoot yourself in the dick? Don't squeeze the trigger while it's pointed at it. 5'11" 168# 32" waist .... can't figure it out Good holster and belt make a big difference. And you've got a good belt already. I have a Hidden Hybrid holster for it and is very comfortable. Also play with the cant of the holster and where, side to side you like to have it. Eta: clothing and habits make a big difference when it comes to comfort and safety while aiwb. Keep loose under layers tucked in. You don't want a shirt getting caught in the trigger while reholstering, which you should NOT do with the holster tucked into your pants. Good way to shoot yourself in the junk. |
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I am almost exactly your height and weight. I have carried a 19 or 19x aiwb for almost 4 years. I use a vedder holster day to day, and a raven vanguard for deep concealment. The 19x in the vedder definitely prints, but I don’t care, and neither does anyone else. If I need to carry in a no carry area, I use the vanguard, pull my aegis belt tight and my 19 will disappear.
It wasn’t all day comfortable at first, but I could now work my 7-4 and then do work at home and not even notice it. |
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Quoted: T shirt, shorts. Not super fitted but not moo moo fit either. I'm comfortable at 3-4 o'clock not appendix really View Quote Also if your problem is that you feel like the grip of the gun is tipping forward try a larger gun (G17,G34) the extra length will help. |
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Quoted: Quoted: What is the proper holster then? I even tried a tier 1 https://www.jmcustomkydex.com/p/AIWBWC2-G19.html It's the most comfortable way for me to IWB carry while walking, but while sitting a 4 o'clock is more comfortable. AIWB conceals better all around though, for me. Also, you're just as likely to have a ND at the appendix as any other method of carry. Don't finger fuck your trigger, dummies. |
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@greenspan check out Phlster. Pro series or skeleton if you're not using a WML. Otherwise floodlight is what you want.
They also put up a good guide recently with visuals. Hope it helps! |
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My holster has a piece of replaceable foam rubber on it that causes the grip of the gun to tuck more into my stomach instead of printing. You can buy them that way but I made mine with some pieces of industrial velcro, a piece of foam floor tile, and a belt sander.
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T.Rex Sidecar Blue Alpha low profile belt Sig 365XL with a 12rnd flush mag and a Holosun 507k 15rnder in the mag holder Works for me fine. But I also don’t wear skintight T-shirt’s and then bitch about printing. I’m typically in jeans or slacks and a untucked dress shirt. Gun disappears. ETA for all the you’re going to shoot your dick off tards, if you don’t pull the trigger your don’t shoot your dick. |
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Quoted: My holster has a piece of replaceable foam rubber on it that causes the grip of the gun to tuck more into my stomach instead of printing. You can buy them that way but I made mine with some pieces of industrial velcro, a piece of foam floor tile, and a belt sander. View Quote I had an issue with the butt of the gun pushing out until I did what this poster describes. Definitely more comfortable to wear now. Here’s a how to video. Appendix Carry Yoga Block Modification |
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Quoted: In about two weeks there will be a new thread and poll called "I shot my freaking balls off!!!! What do now?" View Quote Attached File |
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Appendix isn’t a plug and play like 3-4 o clock. But when it works, it REALLY works. I’ve had plenty of trained eyes around me surprised to see a 2011/x300u or Roland special in my pants. Pretty much a jeans and a tee shirt guy off duty.
It requires different pants, holster, belt combinations. I currently use a phlster spotlight with a mean gene leather belt for appendix. You don’t need anything crazy Uber stuff for a belt like OwB requires. A comptac holster shouldn’t even be remotely considered appendix ready. Also experiment with various wedges and wings on the holster. Dark star gear and phlster make top tier appendix holsters, look at them OP before moving on. |
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Why anyone would want to point a pistol at their pecker is be on me.....
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I have a 28" waist and visible abs and I can't conceal anything larger than a 43 AIWB unless I'm wearing a hoodie or something.
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Try a "fat guy" holster from JX Tactical. IT sits deeper than others and helps to conceal. That might help especially since you're using a quality belt like the Blue Alpha
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Whole lot of '20s accounts weighing in with some really stupid shit. How many times have you boneheads accidentally discharged your sidearm drawing from a holster?
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Quoted: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/476319/20210608_182917-1974670.jpg I aiwb carry this in the summer from time to time. I'm 5'8" and 165#. Easy peasy. Don't want to shoot yourself in the dick? Don't squeeze the trigger while it's pointed at it. View Quote What happened to, "never point a weapon at anything you don't intend to destroy"? |
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I like a much more flexible belt for AIWB than I do for other forms of carry. It lets me reposition the gun more easily depending if I am sitting or standing.
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Quoted: What is the proper holster then? I even tried a tier 1 View Quote I really like my Concealment Express for AIWB. But I do an actual "appendix carry." By that I mean about 10:00 (I'm left handed); that would be 2:00 (over the appendix) for normal people. I don't understand how appendix carry became 12:00! Of course that would be uncomfortable! |
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A good quality holster, built for AIWB and a damn good belt designed for CCW makes a world of difference.
I carry my G43x in a Davis Tactical holster with a Kore Essentials belt. And I could stand to lose 20 lbs. Works great for me and is completely comfortable Attached File https://www.koreessentials.com/collections/western-belts/products/flag-buckle-western-black-full-grain-leather-gun-belt |
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LOL,. All these folks that think they'll shoot themselves.
I mean,. Are you using a holster that covers your trigger guard? What's stopping you from shooting yourself in the other positions? I've never had a problem carrying appendix. |
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Quoted: I can’t either. Maybe my body isn’t made for it (long torso, short legs). But it protrudes and will print, the “claw” helps tilt it some but now it’s even wider. I can do it with a scrub shirt over jeans. But not a t shirt or polo. And I cannot find a comfortable position while seated View Quote Pull your pants up higher. |
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Quoted: I also don't have the body type for it. I can't even do it with a little Sig P238. View Quote Thats because the dmaller guns are actually harder to appendix carry than a G19. They want to roll out of your pants because they don't have enough length to act as a rudder. I carry a 43 in a 48 length holster, and many times, the G19 feels better than the 43. And I have plenty of gut to deal with. |
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Quoted: AIWB won’t work if you have a belly that pokes. That’s all there is to that. It’ll just be painfully uncomfortable if you force it and your draw will suffer. Lose the weight if you really want to do it. View Quote That's simply not true. I've got plenty of gut and have no issues. And I train with other guys with more gut than me that have no issues drawing from appendix much faster than fat guys cwrrying at 3 or 4 oclock. |
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I'm the opposite, have found AIWB is the only way for me to comfortably carry. Key is a good holster. Lately I've settled on Tier One. Use them for a 19x or 2011
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There are dozens of videos on the topic and many of them will give you a better idea than someone trying to type you through it.
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I struggled with it too until I got the right setup. Holster
from ANR Design and a belt from Nexbelt. I usually carry a S&W Shield so a bit thinner than your G19 but occasionally an M&P compact and it still carries great. Unlike pretty much everyone, I actually carry it slightly the left (I'm still a righty though). I guess you'd say about 11 o'clock. I find slightly off center in either direction to be more comfortable because it kind of rides in the crease (for lack of better word) between your leg and pelvic area. I can't keep it to the right (1 oclock) due to a previous surgery and it's wicked uncomfortable for me... so 11 o'clock it is. By keeping it at 11 o'clock too it places the grip of the pistol across my belly too instead of sticking past it to the right... if that makes sense? I just find it sits flatter to me when it's that way. I wear Tshirts no problem with that setup, and moderate length drives are no problem either. Check out ANR Design, solid AIWB holsters. I use the claw with the M&P compact but no claw with the Shield. |
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Quoted: Blackpoint with the wings, ctac, and a couple of specific ones made for appendix all print a ton. At 3 o'clock my wife can't even notice it but appendix she always can point it out. Eta oh and a tier 1 with a sidecar View Quote Can you pull your belt tighter a notch? I made a wedge foe my Tier 1 using a Dr Scholl's gel heel cup and velcro. Tips the top of the gun inward too. |
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I used to hate it as well and one day it sort of clicked for me. Carry a P365xl in a Raven Vanguard II or Tulster Oath depending
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I've tried it a number of times with an XDS, P365, and G48 in standard kydex holsters that I normally wear on my hip. I have no issues while on my feet, but momemt I sit down, I can't stand the muzzle jamming into my groin. It's very uncomfortable and starts to become painful. I've carried into work like that to "try again", but by noon I have to move the holster back to my hip. I can't imagine that a dedicated AIWB holster would alleviate that.
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I’m too skinny, it’s the only way I can carry in the summer. Right now I’m carrying small of back with the back of my shirt untucked. I always tuck my shirt in so it’s the only option.
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