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Posted: 6/17/2022 8:27:36 AM EDT
Thought this was an interesting article. The Chinese never seem to slow down.
China has launched its largest and most impressive aircraft carrier to date. The Type-003 carrier rivals U.S. Navy carriers in size, the first non-American carrier to do so. 10 years after China commissioned its first aircraft carrier, the Type-003 Fujian will further expand and mature the Chinese Navy’s capabilities. It is part of a shift to a true blue water navy, operating in the Pacific and, if called upon, globally. The Type-003 is comparable in size to the U.S. Navy’s Nimitz and Ford classes. And it’s design is similar in many ways. By coming late to the game, Chinese designers benefit from decades of research and development by others. Bypassing intermediate steps, the new carrier incorporates much of the latest thinking. Like the U.S. Navy’s Ford class carrier, the catapults will be EMALS (Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System). This uses electricity instead of traditional steam, which should confers some advantages. The system takes up less room and should be able to launch aircraft at a higher rate. In recent months the first carrier Liaoning was operating in the open waters of the Western Pacific. Japanese defense officials noted that over 100 aircraft launches were undertaken. This shows a significant operational tempo. Story 
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Posted: 6/17/2022 8:51:41 AM EDT
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Of course it’s of ‘similar design’ to our carriers.
Our politicians have been giving China military and industrial secrets for 30 years or more. TC |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 8:54:38 AM EDT
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In b4 the "lol china so far behind" tards
We sit here for the last few decades worrying about social programs and political theater in our military 
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Posted: 6/17/2022 8:55:11 AM EDT
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A decade ago Many on arfcom assured me that China would never have a blue water navy capable of doing carrier operations.
It's scary how quickly they advance by stealing technology. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 8:55:13 AM EDT
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Cool, makes it easier for us to sink.
That is, if it doesn't turn into a submarine on its own. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 8:58:04 AM EDT
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What's the power source? Every article I can find lists it as "probably conventional."
Does that mean fuel oil, or what? Is that a range limiter? |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:00:36 AM EDT
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BS, it doesn't " compare" to our stuff, the ship or the aircraft it carries.
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:01:37 AM EDT
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How many transgender anal glory hole docking spaces does it have? Where does it fly the Groomer Pride flag? Do they have a crew that is checked out in the latest Monkey Pox anal sex PowerPoint?
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:01:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cool, makes it easier for us to sink. That is, if it doesn't turn into a submarine on its own. We should send them Russian training videos! |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:01:45 AM EDT
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Who sold, gave or left the catapult schematics unencrypted?
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:03:27 AM EDT
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If they build boats like they build skyscrapers I'm not that concerned.
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:05:37 AM EDT
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Well, they seem to be better at carriers than the Russians.
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:06:01 AM EDT
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Lulz, wake me up when they have launched their 11th aircraft carrier
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:06:04 AM EDT
[#13]
Made in China
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:07:59 AM EDT
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It would be interesting to have an "EMALS" expert who knows the details of the Ford system, be able to see the Chinese system and see if it's pretty much a direct copy.
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:14:15 AM EDT
[#15]
Welcome to superpower 4.0
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:16:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the power source? Every article I can find lists it as "probably conventional." Does that mean fuel oil, or what? Is that a range limiter? Yes, either boilers with steam turbines or gas turbines or a combo drive system. Range limit compared to our nukes but China will be fighting much closer to home than we will |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:20:54 AM EDT
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Been here a week now, waiting to get underway, getting softer. Every minute I watch this PowerPoint on tranny acceptance, I get weaker, and every minute Chang launches a ship, he gets stronger.
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:23:05 AM EDT
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Looks like a video game.
It sure carries a lot of buildings. Can they fly? |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:31:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the power source? Every article I can find lists it as "probably conventional." Does that mean fuel oil, or what? Is that a range limiter? That one (Type-003) is an oil burner. Their next one (Type-004) is nuclear. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:32:47 AM EDT
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Do the elevators work? Maybe we should ask them how.
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:33:17 AM EDT
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It must be Pride Month in China, too.
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:33:29 AM EDT
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Why cover the deck? Something super secret?
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:35:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why cover the deck? Something super secret? |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:36:26 AM EDT
[#24]
 Be a shame if somefing were to 'appen to it.... |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:38:03 AM EDT
[#25]
Probably smells like Harbor Freight.
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:39:40 AM EDT
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Yeah, but an hour after launching it they felt the need to build another.
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:41:19 AM EDT
[#27]
Neat. Now let's see if they can conduct carrier air ops under pressure...
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:41:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who sold, gave or left the catapult schematics unencrypted? Noticed the lack of a ski jump at the bow |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:47:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That one (Type-003) is an oil burner. Their next one (Type-004) is nuclear. It'll be interesting to see if the powerplant can generate adequate MW's for EMALS and other power-hungry systems. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:47:59 AM EDT
[#30]
No worries,
We have Pride Month! And diversity! And green energy! |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:50:07 AM EDT
[#31]
Thanks to Diane Feinstein’s driver
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:51:21 AM EDT
[#32]
TopGun3 - Carrier vs Carrier.
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:55:46 AM EDT
[#33]
Yep. Looks like ours.
When I was in Thailand I took a speedboat ferry between islands one time. As the boat approached it looked like the old Cobalt (a really nice boat) my mom used to own. When I boarded, I saw that it wasn't nearly as nice as the worst Bayliner (a budget boat) ever to hit the water. Point being, what it looks like from a distance and how it's built on the inside are two radically different things, sometimes, and I hope this is one of those times. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:55:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:58:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Made in China Not necessarily all of it, Europe has been selling a lot of shit to China’s navy https://amp.dw.com/en/german-engine-technology-found-in-chinese-warships-report/a-59740301 |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 9:58:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cool, makes it easier for us to sink. That is, if it doesn't turn into a submarine on its own. Thundersub / Blue Noah? |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 10:00:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who sold, gave or left the catapult schematics unencrypted? https://www.defensenews.com/breaking-news/2016/03/24/chinese-businessman-pleads-guilty-of-spying-on-f-35-and-f-22/ |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 10:00:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks to Diane Feinstein’s driver Imagine the Intel that was gathered by that one asset, not to mention her driver... |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 10:01:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A decade ago Many on arfcom assured me that China would never have a blue water navy capable of doing carrier operations. It's scary how quickly they advance by stealing technology. Or that North Korean missiles could reach the USA 
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Posted: 6/17/2022 10:02:17 AM EDT
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They are building them so they have airpower on the backside of Taiwain far out in the ocean out of range of anti-ship missiles.
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Posted: 6/17/2022 10:06:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who sold, gave or left the catapult schematics unencrypted? The same people who developed it..... |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 10:08:08 AM EDT
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Made in China Nuclear Propulsion Reactor, let’s watch and see what it does lol.
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Posted: 6/17/2022 10:10:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A decade ago Many on arfcom assured me that China would never have a blue water navy capable of doing carrier operations. It's scary how quickly they advance by stealing technology. A perfect example is Japanese and Korean manufacturing in the 70's vs. the 90's and beyond. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 10:11:34 AM EDT
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For the people going on about how many we have v theirs, ask how many we have in theater now v what they will have in a few years. Modern war won't be what you have across the earth that will take months to arrive, but what you have there immediately at the time of crisis. Conflict won't last long enough to mobilize and reallocate from other theaters.
It's not just a carrier question either. Look at their cruisers and destroyers (that are all in 1 place) v what we have. Then look at the trend over the next few years. It's not good and getting measurably worse. The real story is the trend line. It's not in our favor. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 10:12:15 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/17/2022 10:12:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The same people who developed it..... So PLAN has the version that doesn't work all that well...?
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Posted: 6/17/2022 10:13:10 AM EDT
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It looks like a Chinese buffet.
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Posted: 6/17/2022 10:13:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: For the people going on about how many we have v theirs, ask how many we have in theater now v what they will have in a few years. Modern war won't be what you have across the earth that will take months to arrive, but what you have there immediately at the time of crisis. Conflict won't last long enough to mobilize and reallocate from other theaters. It's not just a carrier question either. Look at their cruisers and destroyers (that are all in 1 place) v what we have. Then look at the trend over the next few years. It's not good and getting measurably worse. The real story is the trend line. It's not in our favor. Shipbuilding and ship repair is an advantage for China which is why I’m so fixated on the S-500. Dies it actually work? If so China could prevent us from damaging those facilities. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 10:14:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They are building them so they have airpower on the backside of Taiwain far out in the ocean out of range of anti-ship missiles. Some here think that the invasion of Ukraine and thousands of murders isn't any of our business, and supporting Ukraine is a waste of taxpayers money. They probably say the same thing about Taiwan. Maybe this will wake some of them up. |
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Posted: 6/17/2022 10:16:33 AM EDT
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What's with the artillery mount on the stbd sponson?
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