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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:45:41 PM EDT
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So I am just getting into this due to a bunch of other shit going on in my life. Is it still around Montana or has it drifted somewhere else?
There's a RIVET JOINT in orbit around Wyoming, South Dakota, Nebraska border right now and one in the Northwest Montana currently. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:46:00 PM EDT
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“And we have a late entry for the Macy Day Parade!”
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:46:18 PM EDT
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Any chance it's manned?
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:46:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know a couple guys at whiteman. I bet they could come up with something creative to put on the runway before it floated over. Not sure that would impress an ELINT platform much. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:46:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait, there are really people who think this is from China? If that’s truth then we are fucked. A group of five year olds with those balsa wood planes where the propeller winds up via a rubber band could gain air superiority over the US. Do you guys really think Jina snuck that in? “We” know exactly what it is, where it came from, where it’s going, who launched it, and what that person wiped their ass with this morning. We are getting played. Again. EXCUSE ME, SIR Are you suggesting that our problems aren't the cause of external boogeymen like China? Are you suggesting that the Balloon Gap isn't REAL? |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:46:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
 They must be monitoring the Arf "shoot it down" thread.  But really, I don't see any point in not disclosing the location. Chinese know where it is, .gov knows where it is, hiding it from the public just breeds speculation and suspicion. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:47:10 PM EDT
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 Suspected Chinese spy balloon spotted over United States |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:47:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also MTG just posted:
 
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:48:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:48:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Seems odd in a age of satellites |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:49:34 PM EDT
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Wait until they send in the clowns.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:49:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait, there are really people who think this is from China? If that’s truth then we are fucked. A group of five year olds with those balsa wood planes where the propeller winds up via a rubber band could gain air superiority over the US. Do you guys really think Jina snuck that in? “We” know exactly what it is, where it came from, where it’s going, who launched it, and what that person wiped their ass with this morning. We are getting played. Again. I think you give us too much credit. Yes, I think we are asleep at the wheel. It should have been handled as soon as it was in our airspace and not allowed to be over land. Said it before - reminds me of Russian military incompetence. Looks like we have something in common. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:50:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So I am just getting into this due to a bunch of other shit going on in my life. Is it still around Montana or has it drifted somewhere else? There's a RIVET JOINT in orbit around Wyoming, South Dakota, Nebraska border right now and one in the Northwest Montana currently. I have some shitty pictures.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:50:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Retrofit a sidewinder hard point to a U2? You can’t tell me this wasn’t a known scenario before yesterday. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Could a UAV with a tail hook snag it and fly it down? At 70,000ft? No, there's just no flight margin up there. All the crazy stuff we've done with C-130s over the years? That doesn't translate to higher altitudes like this, even when considering higher flying aircraft. Retrofit a sidewinder hard point to a U2? You can’t tell me this wasn’t a known scenario before yesterday. A pickup truck based platform can do this. It's a low-kinetics intercept, and the rocket warhead would be nothing more than a light expanding chain and recovery/drag chute system to mitigate return to ground kinetics of the missile, and possibly lessen the kinetics of the balloon mission systems. Parachute would also serve for range control for misses. Just use air mobility to move the things around, if needed. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:50:18 PM EDT
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Well that’s a relief since our #1 nuclear waste official had to leave for stealing other people’s suitcases. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:50:29 PM EDT
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There is a second balloon over Canada that is heading our way now.
https://twitter.com/UpwardNewsHQ/status/1621471868396904449 
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:50:29 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:50:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They must be monitoring the Arf "shoot it down" thread. But really, I don't see any point in not disclosing the location. Chinese know where it is, .gov knows where it is, hiding it from the public just breeds speculation and suspicion. Civilians on a plane are the ones that first discovered it. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:52:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It passed over north of the St Joseph Missouri area about an hour and a half ago. I have some shitty pictures. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So I am just getting into this due to a bunch of other shit going on in my life. Is it still around Montana or has it drifted somewhere else? There's a RIVET JOINT in orbit around Wyoming, South Dakota, Nebraska border right now and one in the Northwest Montana currently. I have some shitty pictures. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:52:56 PM EDT
[#20]
You know they may just have virus for us to try.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:54:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh snap there's a C-130J over there. Maybe they found some JATO rockets to get it up to altitude to snag it with one of those old school recovery systems. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So I am just getting into this due to a bunch of other shit going on in my life. Is it still around Montana or has it drifted somewhere else? There's a RIVET JOINT in orbit around Wyoming, South Dakota, Nebraska border right now and one in the Northwest Montana currently. I have some shitty pictures. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:54:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wait, there are really people who think this is from China? If that's truth then we are fucked. A group of five year olds with those balsa wood planes where the propeller winds up via a rubber band could gain air superiority over the US. Do you guys really think Jina snuck that in? "We" know exactly what it is, where it came from, where it's going, who launched it, and what that person wiped their ass with this morning. We are getting played. Again. The US gov is already the most clearly implicated by it being in our air space. Either they are doing it, support it or are so incredibly incompetent, negligent.. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:55:00 PM EDT
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How do we know it's of Chinese origin?
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:56:08 PM EDT
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It contains covid 20
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:56:26 PM EDT
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These bastards are flying that thing all over our sovereign skies...and our pussy leaders won't do shit...
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:56:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:57:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Since we're acknowledging the existence of such a thing isn't confirmed, that is exactly the type of action such a balloon is attempting to stimulate and gather data on. Ground based industrial laser. Nothing new about using a repurposed industrial laser. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:57:24 PM EDT
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I cant believe we don't have close up footage from a redneck drone pilot yet
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:58:40 PM EDT
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It should have been shot down before it ever reached our shores claiming it was a hazard to navigation. Then see who claims it.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:58:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How do we know it's of Chinese origin? 87% of our problems stem from the USA sucking chinesium coc. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:58:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It passed over north of the St Joseph Missouri area about an hour and a half ago. I have some shitty pictures. Post em up |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:59:04 PM EDT
[#32]
Fun fact -
I had a pretty intensive class years ago for first responders to terrorist events. It was taught by some FBI terrorism dudes and the fire chief that was the incident commander at the OKC bombing. One of the scenarios discussed was the utilization of balloons launched off our coasts to drop biologicals into mainland USA. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 1:59:32 PM EDT
[#33]
The fact the Pentagon admitted it is maneuverable is concerning. Also make the SR71 great again.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 2:01:00 PM EDT
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Its not that hard to hit the thing honestly.
Get your own weather balloon and sling from it: A UHF/VHF repeater A powered or unpowered rocket style RC controllable craft (preferably with wide fins to cover a large area / poke a big hole) with a FPV camera rig A camera on the lifting package A release for the interceptor RC craft. Make half a dozen of these (should be all off the shelf parts for the most part) and seed the airspace around said spy balloon. Plan your lift to reach 10k to 20k above the target. Drop the interceptor closest to the target and guide it through the envelope. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 2:01:54 PM EDT
[#35]
Pentagon is designing an $87B system to shoot it down. Ready by 2041.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 2:02:48 PM EDT
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Hmm? I wonder if we have ever flown anything over another country?… I wonder if they were pissed off when we did it?
.  Attached File. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 2:03:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/3/2023 2:04:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any chance it's manned? I was just thinking the same thing. Was someone trying to defect or spy? |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 2:06:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/3/2023 2:06:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was just thinking the same thing. Was someone trying to defect or spy? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Any chance it's manned? I was just thinking the same thing. Was someone trying to defect or spy? How long did it take this thing to waft over here? If there's a guy inside, he might have starved or died of dehydration already. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 2:07:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You know they may just have virus for us to try. In 1945, a Japanese Balloon Bomb Killed Six Americans, Five of Them Children, in Oregon The military kept the true story of their deaths, the only civilians to die at enemy hands on the U.S. mainland, under wraps https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/1945-japanese-balloon-bomb-killed-six-americansfive-them-children-oregon-180972259/ "Other schemes proposed including infecting U.S. cattle and grain crops, or using balloon bombs as a means to disperse plague agents in North America." https://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/japans-forgotten-plan-drop-plague-bombs-america-world-war-ii-174737 |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 2:08:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Post em up Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It passed over north of the St Joseph Missouri area about an hour and a half ago. I have some shitty pictures. Post em up  Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 2:10:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bringing this down intact would be a treasure-trove of information, especially learning exactly what data it was capturing. Not a trivial task but not impossible. I'm sure some NSA and Air Force teams are researching options for this. We're going to find out they were listening to our rock-n-roll while conducting missile drills. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 2:10:51 PM EDT
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Where is it now?
How are civilians not able to track this thing in their own? |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 2:11:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was just thinking the same thing. Was someone trying to defect or spy? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Any chance it's manned? I was just thinking the same thing. Was someone trying to defect or spy? "I would like to have seen Montana."  |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 2:11:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where is it now? How are civilians not able to track this thing in their own? This. Can't believe there isn't a tracker on twitter. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 2:11:56 PM EDT
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Extremely weak leadership. We has.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 2:12:00 PM EDT
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Probably has U.S. made chips and stolen IP.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 2:12:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/3/2023 2:12:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Fun fact - I had a pretty intensive class years ago for first responders to terrorist events. It was taught by some FBI terrorism dudes and the fire chief that was the incident commander at the OKC bombing. One of the scenarios discussed was the utilization of balloons launched off our coasts to drop biologicals into mainland USA. |
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