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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:33:26 PM EST
[#1]
Do we really think China would use a balloon to spy on us geographically?
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:34:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Do we really think China would use a balloon to spy on us geographically? Why not? |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:35:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The KC CENTER sector HI freqs are where all the action is right now. Is this something hams can listen in on or is this more specialized? If I pull out my hf antenna can I listen to this? What freq? |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:35:18 PM EST
[#4]
Goldfinger.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:36:46 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Someone is sneaking around. 242.525 MHz has Vinson secure traffic. Curious. What kind of technology does one need to listen to mil/civil air traffic? |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:37:00 PM EST
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:37:50 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's hauling ass right toward it. I'm surprised it took this long...called it up on page 12. Kind of tailor-made for this mission. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:38:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why not? seems like satellites would be a bit easier. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:39:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So, your theory is that China is sending first strike nukes via balloon? I'm gonna have to see some proof of this... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Fox News is reporting it is carrying a heavy payload the size of two school buses. How much does a nuke weigh? Could it have 2 on board, one to drop and the other to detonate when it is at 150,000 ft? So, your theory is that China is sending first strike nukes via balloon? I'm gonna have to see some proof of this... Whether they are or not, it appears they certainly could have. 
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:40:18 PM EST
[#10]
There's a C40A heading around that way but not sure WTF that is doing since their navy cargo planes. Maybe just hauling around some GO looky-loos.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:40:40 PM EST
[#11]
Xiden is Chyna's bitch so Chyna will do whatever it wants.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:40:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: seems like satellites would be a bit easier. Heck if they can throw weather balloons our way and all we are going to do is tell people to go look up in the sky it's probably a heck of a lot more cheaper to keep filling up those balloons than launch satellites. 
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:40:52 PM EST
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 it did descend lower once.... |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:41:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Curtis LeMay is spinning in his grave. indeed........ *_° |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:41:15 PM EST
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Chinese don’t take a dump without a plan. So, what’s behind this? There is a reason. I say test run.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:42:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: None of course. The PGU ammo is pretty hot stuff and at that altitude it will have a lot of smash a lot further out. A Viper can go that high. The problem is, if the motor quits you loose ECS and eventually cabin pressure. Add to that, no pressure suit. The pilots all said they wouldn’t want to stay that high very long. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So, around the office, who's go the most experience with cannon engagements above 60kft? That guy should go first. None of course. The PGU ammo is pretty hot stuff and at that altitude it will have a lot of smash a lot further out. A Viper can go that high. The problem is, if the motor quits you loose ECS and eventually cabin pressure. Add to that, no pressure suit. The pilots all said they wouldn’t want to stay that high very long. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:42:26 PM EST
[#17]
Maybe it’s a holosun delivery?
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:42:52 PM EST
[#18]
I work near the airport in STL and haven't heard any jets scrambling yet.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:43:21 PM EST
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: seems like satellites would be a bit easier. True but they might have other objectives, plus low cost op, gauge the response and be provocative all at the same time, I'm sure I can list more reasons but you get the idea...also just throwing those ideas out. I see your point as well. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:44:29 PM EST
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DIXIE16 over in Kansas just gained a lot of altitude. Could be wanting to go take a look two or heading up to refuel some little fellas.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:45:20 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He's hauling ass right toward it. 33K' and 510ktas. Fuck the cost of fuel. ETA: https://www.flightradar24.com/COBRA47/2f11b8f3 |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:45:45 PM EST
[#22]
Well, looking at the track, Canadas air defense systems seem to be somewhat lax.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:46:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What if this thing is dropping fkn fentynal or some shit  I mean.. Im not saying it is.. But all we are doing is fucking looking at it... How have we became such pussies?Odd huh? we usually have zero tolerance policy for border incursions, err....wait 
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:47:36 PM EST
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:48:17 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, looking at the track, Canadas air defense systems seem to be somewhat lax. Must have had it's vax documents in order. 
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:48:40 PM EST
[#26]
Anyone here really believe we're being told the truth about this ? Come on man!
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:50:37 PM EST
[#27]
They're going to set up a shootdown with a high fast flier coming out of the SW, cannon fire going NW. Rounds estimated to impact ground in East St Louis. Estimated damage to civilian property: indeterminant.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:51:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Odd huh? we usually have zero tolerance policy for border incursions, err....wait Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What if this thing is dropping fkn fentynal or some shit I mean.. Im not saying it is.. But all we are doing is fucking looking at it... How have we became such pussies?Odd huh? we usually have zero tolerance policy for border incursions, err....wait Why would the gov care about our airspace when they don't care about our border? China is verifying that. Nothing will fappen. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:51:01 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: True but they might have other objectives, plus low cost op, gauge the response and be provocative all at the same time, I'm sure I can list more reasons but you get the idea...also just throwing those ideas out. I see your point as well. yeah. its just strange i guess. I mean if the USA legit believes its a China spy balloon and we havent shot it down then... 1. We are being told NOT to shoot it down. (china tells this admin what to do) 2. We are allowing them to gather intel under the guise of "the situation is unfolding" sort of slow to response giving them the most time possible. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:52:46 PM EST
[#30]
How long before it descends enough for some dude in a Cessna 172 or even better a Cub to go take it out?
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:52:57 PM EST
[#31]
Maybe it's a trap.
China wants us to shoot it down and then they'll use an anti satellite missile on one of our recon birds over China in protest. A precedent that reconnaissance at ANY altitude over China will not be tolerated by China. "You did it first, USA." |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:53:10 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He's hauling ass right toward it. 33K' and 510ktas. Fuck the cost of fuel. ETA: https://www.flightradar24.com/COBRA47/2f11b8f3 Definitely looks like an intercept. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:53:17 PM EST
[#33]
Spy balloon doesn't sound like a viable system. At the mercy of the winds as far as where it goes and when. Clearly not stealthy. Not sure what this is accomplishing.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:53:44 PM EST
[#34]
COBRA47's in an orbit now. CNV4926 just passing through the area too. DIXIE16 looks to be heading that way too.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:55:53 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe it's a trap. China wants us to shoot it down and then they'll use an anti satellite missile on one of our recon birds over China in protest. A precedent that reconnaissance at ANY altitude over China will not be tolerated by China. "You did it first, USA." Careful. If someone shoots it with an AR-15 China will have justification to ban assault rifles. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:56:02 PM EST
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Spy balloon doesn't sound like a viable system. At the mercy of the winds as far as where it goes and when. Clearly not stealthy. Not sure what this is accomplishing. Mapping wind currents, sucking up comm data as it goes, noting our active efforts to track it. Seeing what we do in response to what it does. Learning the other teams playbook is useful. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:56:30 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: yeah. its just strange i guess. I mean if the USA legit believes its a China spy balloon and we havent shot it down then... 1. We are being told NOT to shoot it down. (china tells this admin what to do) 2. We are allowing them to gather intel under the guise of "the situation is unfolding" sort of slow to response giving them the most time possible. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: True but they might have other objectives, plus low cost op, gauge the response and be provocative all at the same time, I'm sure I can list more reasons but you get the idea...also just throwing those ideas out. I see your point as well. yeah. its just strange i guess. I mean if the USA legit believes its a China spy balloon and we havent shot it down then... 1. We are being told NOT to shoot it down. (china tells this admin what to do) 2. We are allowing them to gather intel under the guise of "the situation is unfolding" sort of slow to response giving them the most time possible. We are probably trying to track where the information signal is being sent. Shooting it down would kill that transmission. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:56:38 PM EST
[#38]
DIXIE16 hit the fucking nitrous.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:57:18 PM EST
[#39]
Quoted: The “I stand with ukrain” assholes are to blame for this communist shit, fucking liberal shits.. Quoted: Cant you see this is psyops directed to the liberal sheep to fund a war that is directed to deplete our arsonal? I can see you can't spell worth a shit. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:57:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It will be interesting to see what happens to it once it gets out over the Atlantic... At that point what difference does it make? |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:58:00 PM EST
[#41]
 Pentagon reveals movements of Chinese spy balloon |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:58:10 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryHave they put a number on the ballon so it can be tracked yet? Thanks |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 3:59:06 PM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yay! lets send all of our munnitions to ukraine…. ya thats the ticket. bleed us dry so when the real assault comes we got no ammo…. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Cant you see this is psyops directed to the liberal sheep to fund a war that is directed to deplete our arsonal? Yay! lets send all of our munnitions to ukraine…. ya thats the ticket. bleed us dry so when the real assault comes we got no ammo…. Whoopsies...someone forgot to switch accounts! |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 4:00:00 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Do we really think China would use a balloon to spy on us geographically? "tHeY'rE mAppINg tHe nOrThErN u.S.!!!1" |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 4:00:02 PM EST
[#45]
COBRA47 broke orbit. Heading southeast now.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 4:00:24 PM EST
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Is this something hams can listen in on or is this more specialized? If I pull out my hf antenna can I listen to this? What freq? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The KC CENTER sector HI freqs are where all the action is right now. Is this something hams can listen in on or is this more specialized? If I pull out my hf antenna can I listen to this? What freq? VHF AM within about 200 miles of the aircraft. About any scanner works. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 4:00:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 60,000 feet there weekend warrior. this is ARFCOM GD my millionaire wife has a balloon  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 4:01:27 PM EST
[#48]
Embarrassing as all fuck. It takes a real pussy not to shoot this thing down. Luckily for us we have the biggest bitch imaginable as president. President Installed can suck my balls. Traitor piece of shit.
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Posted: 2/3/2023 4:01:42 PM EST
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Curious. What kind of technology does one need to listen to mil/civil air traffic? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Someone is sneaking around. 242.525 MHz has Vinson secure traffic. Curious. What kind of technology does one need to listen to mil/civil air traffic? An SDR receiver or any scanner that covers 118-136 and 225-400 with AM. Most cover 118-136. Most of the newer ones do both. I have a TACO 225-400 antenna up at about 25' and a DPD Productions log periodic broadband. I'm using an Airspy R2 SDR, RSP DUO dual receiver SDR and a BCD786XLT among others. |
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Posted: 2/3/2023 4:03:04 PM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Embarrassing as all fuck. It takes a real pussy not to shoot this thing down. Luckily for us we have the biggest bitch imaginable as president. President Installed can suck my balls. Traitor piece of shit. It's a great excuse to conduct counter Intel At least I hope |
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