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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:51:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah that makes NO sense at all...built on a GMC 1/2 truck frame? What's next all Jeep vehicles? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Horrible. I can't believe that it includes H1s. They have full DOT approval like any other passenger vehicle. Yeah that makes NO sense at all...built on a GMC 1/2 truck frame? What's next all Jeep vehicles? H1s are not built on the 1/2 ton chassis. It is identical to a HMMWV except for wiring and interior. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:52:10 AM EDT
[#2]
Colorado! The new and improved California.
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:52:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My 96 H1 had a 17 digit vin but the title said AM General. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How would a commercially manufactured Hummer H1 fall under military surplus vehicle? Under that logic wouldn't every commercial Jeep also be a mil vehicle? What about Chevy Pick-ups and Blazers? CUCV anyone? It doesn't, the H1 isn't included, it has all federally required safety/emissions equipment for a normal passenger vehicle., An H1 built by AM General IS included. Read the link. Mine did have a 17 digit Vin, but I don't remember who was listed as the manufacturer on the title. If it says GM, it is good to go like the H2s and 3s. My 96 H1 had a 17 digit vin but the title said AM General. Thanks. I couldn't remember. I had a 96 and a 99. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:56:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: if correct minded Coloradans where to register ALL of their vehicles out of state, in great enough numbers, that would likely send a message. But correct minded people usually suck at organizing, so that idea is just fantasy Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Guess they'd rather those people send their money to Montana then. if correct minded Coloradans where to register ALL of their vehicles out of state, in great enough numbers, that would likely send a message. But correct minded people usually suck at organizing, so that idea is just fantasy I register all of my trailers out of state but didn’t realize I could do vehicles. In to learn more about this. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:56:24 AM EDT
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Put a water tank in the back, hook up a small water pump run by a generator, and presto, you have a rig made for grass fire mitigation.
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:56:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you register it in a neighboring state? You can here in Oklahoma and we're a neighboring state. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:57:03 AM EDT
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Set up LLC in Montana, tags for dirt cheap, problem solved. This is what most super car owners in states like GA with insane taxes do.
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:57:53 AM EDT
[#8]
Well,you get what you vote for. More pot needles and less freedom. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:58:12 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Horrible. I can't believe that it includes H1s. They have full DOT approval like any other passenger vehicle. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:58:22 AM EDT
[#10]
Register it in Vermont
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Posted: 4/19/2022 9:58:54 AM EDT
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Looking at the text of the bill- When introduced it all boils down to one simple thing:
Emissions If I am interpreting and reading between the lines correctly they really had no way to define emissions standards and testing so they took the easy route and just banned them. Military Motor Vehicle bill SB 19-054 You can scroll down and see all the revisions etc. I personally don't have a direct dog in this fight, I don't own a surplus vehicle. I do know a gent whose business is Pinzgauers and another that owns a towing company who has a surplus OshKosh he uses for heavy recovery- curious how it will affect them. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 10:00:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lawsuits should be incoming... BIGLY. And all legal fees should be taken taken frim every communist scumbag who helped write it or voted for it. Wouldn't said law constitute a "taking" of private property ergo the state would have to buy all those vehicles at the current market going price? That would get the stupid law dumped in a hurry. Not enough money for greeny weenie projects if you're forced to buy all the things you suddenly made illegal. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 10:02:02 AM EDT
[#13]
Texas allows you to register your vehicle out of state,
https://www.visitor.us/how-to-register-a-vehicle-as-a-non-us-resident-in/texas |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 10:02:17 AM EDT
[#14]
Hmmm, vehicles greater than 25 years old do not have to meet Federal Safety Standards that's why old military vehicles have been allowed to be registered and driven on the streets.
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Posted: 4/19/2022 10:04:58 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hmmm, vehicles greater than 25 years old do not have to meet Federal Safety Standards that's why old military vehicles have been allowed to be registered and driven on the streets. This is not accurate. And the State Police captain told me that they consider "date of manufacture" to be the date it LEFT THE MILITARY. Every bureaucracy is out of control. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 10:05:12 AM EDT
[#16]
This includes a civilian hummer? That makes no sense.
Colorado has been going to shit for a long time. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 10:05:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can you register it in a neighboring state? You can, but then the State of Colorado will go after you for not registering your vehicle/paying sales tax in Colorado per State Law. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 10:06:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A stree/civilian version H1 isn't a military vehicle, so why would it be affected? It's not, only the military models. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 10:07:19 AM EDT
[#19]
Nvm
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Posted: 4/19/2022 10:08:35 AM EDT
[#20]
Civilian H1’s were never “military surplus” vehicles.
Not even a little bit. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 10:08:43 AM EDT
[#21]
Thou shalt not have toys!
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Posted: 4/19/2022 10:17:04 AM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You can, but then the State of Colorado will go after you for not registering your vehicle/paying sales tax in Colorado per State Law. Plus you probably don't want to run into the insurance hassle if you have an accident or otherwise file a claim. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 10:30:39 AM EDT
[#23]
 Fuck all that! I would drive them up the state capitol steps. The old vets at the local VFW would be pissed if I couldn't bring my trucks to the local parades for them to ride in. The Memorial Day Parade was dying off as the older guys could no longer make the march through town to the cemetery until I started bringing my trucks. Now it's one of the largest parades in our county. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 10:34:46 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is not accurate. And the State Police captain told me that they consider "date of manufacture" to be the date it LEFT THE MILITARY. Every bureaucracy is out of control. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hmmm, vehicles greater than 25 years old do not have to meet Federal Safety Standards that's why old military vehicles have been allowed to be registered and driven on the streets. This is not accurate. And the State Police captain told me that they consider "date of manufacture" to be the date it LEFT THE MILITARY. Every bureaucracy is out of control. FWIW I've had police tell me all sorts of BS that's simply not true. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 10:37:13 AM EDT
[#25]
Colorado, my state and im embarrased to even admit it.
This place was wonderful when I came here in 1990. Maybe im a curse but about a year or two after I arrived, its been a steady decline into Shitholeistan ever since. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 10:49:08 AM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Reasoning? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: What was the reasoning? Reasoning? Reasoning?  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 10:49:33 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Colorado, my state and im embarrased to even admit it. This place was wonderful when I came here in 1990. Maybe im a curse but about a year or two after I arrived, its been a steady decline into Shitholeistan ever since. Agreed. I know a guy who fixes and sells surplus Mogs and Pingauzers. As in, he gets flown to other states to fix them up and fixes up specific rigs for security teams. This looks like complete bullshit. I'll have to chat with him next time I see him at 4H. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 10:51:39 AM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: H1s are not built on the 1/2 ton chassis. It is identical to a HMMWV except for wiring and interior. H1's were manufactured to meet US Federal Safety Standards. What Colorado is doing is going against what the UD DOT/National Highway Traffic Safety Administration tells states. Colorado has gone full retard. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 10:54:26 AM EDT
[#29]
It is things like this, the abortion up until birth bill and others that have got me itching to get out of here.
I recently bought land in Tennessee with the idea of staying here for another two years while I slowly build over there. I might just go ahead and list my house and get out of this leftist controlled Moloch worshipping state. Living in a camper on my Tennessee property is better than sticking around here. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 10:55:32 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: FWIW I've had police tell me all sorts of BS that's simply not true. This was the guy in charge of state inspections who was the "expert witness" to the senators in the transportation subcommittee. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 11:01:03 AM EDT
[#31]
A new side industry is soon to emerge: Anyone with a small farm will issue certificates that the vehicle is used on his/her small farm so it can be registered as a farm vehicle. Bring your vehicle out to his/her farm, and haul one bale of hay/alfalfa to the barn..BAM, it is used as a farm vehicle. Certificates will be sold for $100...or haul one potato to the potato shed.
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Posted: 4/19/2022 11:02:46 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A new side industry is soon to emerge: Anyone with a small farm will issue certificates that the vehicle is used on his/her small farm so it can be registered as a farm vehicle. Bring your vehicle out to his/her farm, and haul one bale of hay/alfalfa to the barn..BAM, it is used as a farm vehicle. Certificates will be sold for $100...or haul one potato to the potato shed. VA just heavily restricted Farm Use vehicles as well. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 11:06:44 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This is not accurate. And the State Police captain told me that they consider "date of manufacture" to be the date it LEFT THE MILITARY. Every bureaucracy is out of control. By the FED Standards it is accurate. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 11:09:07 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: This was the guy in charge of state inspections who was the "expert witness" to the senators in the transportation subcommittee. Per what NHTSA states he is wrong. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 11:10:57 AM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: By the FED Standards it is accurate. No, the military vehicles have nothing to do with the 25 year "antique" rule. That's why my truck was only 13 years old when auctioned off. The military vehicles are a separate thing in federal code. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 11:12:44 AM EDT
[#36]
CO = East CA.
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Posted: 4/19/2022 11:18:30 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: CO trying to outdo CA? Isnt it more like Californians transplants trying to out do California while living in Colorado ? ?? |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 11:19:22 AM EDT
[#38]
Quoted: Nice job you liberal fucks. Colorado DMV just revoked the titles to all military surplus vehicles. They will only be issued an “ORV” (Off Road Vehicle.) title. This includes HMMV vehicles even if it was purchased from a dealer as a civilian vehicle when new. You spent $70k on a brand new Hummvee H1 from your local Chevy dealer when they came out? Fuck you, you can’t drive it on the street anymore. Bought a surplus HMMV and spent $50k to put it back together correctly? Fuck you, you can’t drive it on the street anymore. Got grandpas flat fender Jeep he bought as surplus after WWII and restored it? Fuck you, you can’t drive it on the street anymore. No more surplus vehicles in parades either. This was a silent and sudden law. “Arbitrary and Capricious” anybody? Fuck you Military Vehicle Owners 3. Can any Surplus military vehicle be registered for on road use? The only surplus military vehicles that can be registered for on-road use are vehicles that are leased or owned by a municipality, county or fire protection district for the purposes of assisting with firefighting efforts, including mitigating the risk of wildfires. What about the surplus .mil vehicles LE agencies have? 8. I currently have a M998 (HMMWV) registered with a Colorado license plate. What will happen with that registration? The registration will be permitted to remain until it expires at which time it cannot be renewed or you can cancel it you will be eligible for a credit for another vehicle that you own. This credit is valid until the end of the registration period of the Surplus Military Vehicle. No refunds will be issued. The currently issued title will be replaced with an OHV title, and will be mailed to you at no additional charge. You want Killdozer? This is how you get Killdozer. Fucking pricks Zero fucks given! What in the hell do you expect when you vote into office radical Leftist that hate America!!!!!! You created this mess Colorado, now deal with it…. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 11:19:57 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What was the reasoning? Hahahahahahahahahahaha they don’t need one |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 11:22:50 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Coldifornia strikes again. NIMBYs and PAVEs. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 11:23:53 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Besides them just being assholes my guess is this is a way to get as many military style vehicles out of civilian hands as possible! I can’t imagine why they’d want to do that… |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 11:25:54 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Probably due to all of the Californians who brought their “values” to the state when they relocated. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: CO trying to outdo CA? Probably due to all of the Californians who brought their “values” to the state when they relocated. Does CA ban street registration of .mil surplus vehicles? I’ll have to tell my friend in Sacramento that has 6-8 AM General Hummvees…… |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 11:27:24 AM EDT
[#43]
The only thing good that liberals contribute to society is when they get turned to fertilizer. They're on the same level as cancer, killing and destroying everything decent
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Posted: 4/19/2022 11:34:04 AM EDT
[#44]
Why anyone would choose to live in a State like that is beyond me.
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Posted: 4/19/2022 11:36:37 AM EDT
[#45]
Colorado seems to have really swung hard left over the past 20 years. It's like California 2.0 now.
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Posted: 4/19/2022 11:38:29 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: CO is so full of fuck it isn't funny. That shithole state is lost. 
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Posted: 4/19/2022 11:39:32 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's weird. What was their reasoning? Because they can hold more than 15 rounds.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 11:40:00 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Zero fucks given! What in the hell do you expect when you vote into office radical Leftist that hate America!!!!!! You created this mess Colorado, now deal with it…. When you say " YOU " who the fuck are you talking to? Because I'm fairly certain anyone on this board from CO didnt vote for any of these commie fucks to ruin our state. |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 11:42:06 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: CO is so full of fuck it isn't funny. That shithole state is lost. Fact, this state is long lost. Im here for a max of 3-5 until my kids are grown ass adults and I leave here. Where will I go that wont be ruined in 3-5 more years.... thats the bigger Quesrtion |
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Posted: 4/19/2022 11:42:07 AM EDT
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Quoted: Nice job you liberal fucks. Colorado DMV just revoked the titles to all military surplus vehicles. They will only be issued an “ORV” (Off Road Vehicle.) title. This includes HMMV vehicles even if it was purchased from a dealer as a civilian vehicle when new. You spent $70k on a brand new Hummvee H1 from your local Chevy dealer when they came out? Fuck you, you can’t drive it on the street anymore. Bought a surplus HMMV and spent $50k to put it back together correctly? Fuck you, you can’t drive it on the street anymore. Got grandpas flat fender Jeep he bought as surplus after WWII and restored it? Fuck you, you can’t drive it on the street anymore. No more surplus vehicles in parades either. This was a silent and sudden law. “Arbitrary and Capricious” anybody? Fuck you Military Vehicle Owners 3. Can any Surplus military vehicle be registered for on road use? The only surplus military vehicles that can be registered for on-road use are vehicles that are leased or owned by a municipality, county or fire protection district for the purposes of assisting with firefighting efforts, including mitigating the risk of wildfires. What about the surplus .mil vehicles LE agencies have? 8. I currently have a M998 (HMMWV) registered with a Colorado license plate. What will happen with that registration? The registration will be permitted to remain until it expires at which time it cannot be renewed or you can cancel it you will be eligible for a credit for another vehicle that you own. This credit is valid until the end of the registration period of the Surplus Military Vehicle. No refunds will be issued. The currently issued title will be replaced with an OHV title, and will be mailed to you at no additional charge. You want Killdozer? This is how you get Killdozer. Fucking pricks Fact. |
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