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Posted: 9/25/2015 8:23:19 PM EDT
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My shocked face
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Posted: 9/25/2015 8:23:36 PM EDT
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Because they require skilled craftsmen to produce. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't quite understand why they don't make them anymore. 
Because they require skilled craftsmen to produce. As my old NCO's used to say: there are two types of problems in this world: skill problems and will problems. So I am guessing the problem is finding people who care enough, that have enough will to learn the skills to handfit gun parts. |
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Posted: 9/25/2015 8:55:50 PM EDT
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Iam glad for COLT!!!!!
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Posted: 9/25/2015 8:58:00 PM EDT
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...and bring back the Diamondback, Python, and Anaconda lines. I've wanted a .22 Diamondback 6" as a mate for my 6" .38 Diamondback forever. The Python is the sexiest handgun EVER made  More please...
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Good. Now make a new DA/SA revolver. ...and bring back the Diamondback, Python, and Anaconda lines. I've wanted a .22 Diamondback 6" as a mate for my 6" .38 Diamondback forever. The Python is the sexiest handgun EVER made More please...
LOL. Colt is a defense co tractor strictly it seems. All the brains leaked out of that company years ago. No vision or willingness to do anything other than crank out assembly line AR and SAW parts. |
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Posted: 9/25/2015 9:03:38 PM EDT
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So now that they will be flush with government money again, anybody reckon they will bring back that "too good for the civilian market" attitude? As soon as they sign the contract. |
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Posted: 9/25/2015 9:06:00 PM EDT
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From the Truth About Guns Comments. The contract is shared between FN and Colt by the way.
John Paul Epstein • 23 minutes ago
My guess is very little. Based on a feeling in my butt, the majority of it--at least $106 million, which is 50% of the contract--will likely go to FN for supplies, manufacturing and distribution. Colt would likely get royalties on the M4 patent, which would then mostly go towards paying off their debt. So FN gets to stay productive for the U.S. military (because ain't nobody buying their SCAR 'till the cost comes down) and becomes the new golden child for milspec guns, while Colt gets to stay alive until the creditors squeeze every drop of blood that they can. It'd be pretty cool if the tribe that made an offer actually got to own them, once everything is finished. Maybe then Colt will go back to making quality revolvers. |
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Posted: 9/25/2015 9:08:18 PM EDT
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in before the next "army announces program to find m4 replacement thread."
congrats to colt & FNH & please allow a box to fall of the truck next time you pass my place |
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Posted: 9/25/2015 9:16:03 PM EDT
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Tier mother-fuckin' ONE!
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Posted: 9/25/2015 9:16:48 PM EDT
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Good. Now make a new DA/SA revolver. Yes redesign the Python using 3G and get it on. |
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Posted: 9/25/2015 9:17:06 PM EDT
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I had to go to bing images to see what those are. One pic was just the upper. It was for sale on gunsamerica. He had it listed at $1,069. Cha ching! Somebody must have bought it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good! Now start cranking out 6943P or 6944P uppers please, kthxbye I had to go to bing images to see what those are. One pic was just the upper. It was for sale on gunsamerica. He had it listed at $1,069. Cha ching! Somebody must have bought it. 6943/44 or 6943/44P There's a difference..the 6943 or 6944 uppers are their normal "DI" uppers. I've never seen a 6943P or 6944P upper in the wild. |
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Posted: 9/25/2015 9:21:27 PM EDT
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Too big to fail.
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Posted: 9/25/2015 9:24:18 PM EDT
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I wonder how good the blow job was. The question should had been was how they swallowed?
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Posted: 9/25/2015 9:26:36 PM EDT
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Syrians like Colts.
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Posted: 9/25/2015 9:31:20 PM EDT
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*shrug*
Cool I guess. |
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Posted: 9/25/2015 9:36:04 PM EDT
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Colt should hire me to help them revamp their product line. I'll have them in shape in no time. I'd create a massive civvy program to cater juat to us lowly non-mil/leo/fed/state pukes!
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Posted: 9/25/2015 9:38:08 PM EDT
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So does this mean my 89 dollar lowers are worth 40 bucks now?I feel I've been shafted like vw tdi owners.
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Posted: 9/25/2015 9:40:25 PM EDT
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Colt should hire me to help them revamp their product line. I'll have them in shape in no time. I'd create a massive civvy program to cater juat to us lowly non-mil/leo/fed/state pukes! Bring me on board, I'll market them right and we'll sell a crap ton of stuff. 
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Posted: 9/25/2015 9:41:44 PM EDT
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Clinton bail them out?
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Posted: 9/25/2015 9:43:56 PM EDT
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i find it preferable for the US Gov't to have arms built by Americans. But you are correct that is isn't necessary. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's called a mercy bailout. The .mil didn't need Colt..........plenty of others who do just as good or better job at making M4's honest question, how many american owned companies can product at that volume & quality? Doesn't need to be an American company. The world has changed. like it or not. And besides, if a man (or company) can't stand on their own two feet...I would prefer if they went away. We have too many useless eaters in this world as it is. i find it preferable for the US Gov't to have arms built by Americans. But you are correct that is isn't necessary. True this. |
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Posted: 9/25/2015 9:44:36 PM EDT
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I'm good with this.
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Posted: 9/25/2015 9:57:58 PM EDT
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The government motors of the gun world.
My prediction is that they will still end up bankrupt before the contract ends or they will be bought out. |
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Posted: 9/25/2015 10:12:23 PM EDT
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i felt the same as alot of the other nay-sayers regarding colt.then,one day at walmart...they were 500 bucks.i bought it ,then shot it the next day..call me crazy,but it shoots better (smoother) than any other ar ive shot..i love colt and jesus
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Posted: 9/25/2015 10:13:20 PM EDT
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honest question, how many american owned companies can product at that volume & quality? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's called a mercy bailout. The .mil didn't need Colt..........plenty of others who do just as good or better job at making M4's honest question, how many american owned companies can product at that volume & quality? while $212,000,000 may seem large, the actual number of rifles is probably under 100,000. would not be surpised if it was closer to 20,000. The 212,000,000 dollar figure (I haven't seen the exact contract so I can say 100%) is likely for rifles, replacement parts, accessories, and upkeep over the next 4 years. There are quite a few companies that could have likely produced the quantity and the quality desired. Hell ruger makes over 1 million guns a year by itself, plenty of other companies out there could make the less than 25,000 a year figure likely in place for this contract. |
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Posted: 9/25/2015 11:16:13 PM EDT
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From the Truth About Guns Comments. The contract is shared between FN and Colt by the way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
From the Truth About Guns Comments. The contract is shared between FN and Colt by the way. John Paul Epstein • 23 minutes ago
My guess is very little. Based on a feeling in my butt, the majority of it--at least $106 million, which is 50% of the contract--will likely go to FN for supplies, manufacturing and distribution. Colt would likely get royalties on the M4 patent, which would then mostly go towards paying off their debt. So FN gets to stay productive for the U.S. military (because ain't nobody buying their SCAR 'till the cost comes down) and becomes the new golden child for milspec guns, while Colt gets to stay alive until the creditors squeeze every drop of blood that they can. It'd be pretty cool if the tribe that made an offer actually got to own them, once everything is finished. Maybe then Colt will go back to making quality revolvers. Everyone will ignore you to hate on Colt. |
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Posted: 9/26/2015 1:45:55 AM EDT
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So how much of the contract goes to Colt and how much to FN? |
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Posted: 9/26/2015 2:16:05 AM EDT
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It seems like a lot of people buy Colts.
How did they get into such financial delinquency? Anyone clue me in? Just incompetence? |
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Posted: 9/26/2015 2:18:47 AM EDT
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You're welcome, Colt.
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Posted: 9/26/2015 3:39:08 AM EDT
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Early prediction: they'll be bankrupt again by 2021...
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Posted: 9/26/2015 4:32:16 AM EDT
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Good news but it would be icing on the cake if their current management/owners were changed.
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Posted: 9/26/2015 4:35:21 AM EDT
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You would be a serious minority in the gun buying market. We had the limited run Anaconda, the custom shop Python, and we always had a Single Action Army in stock. They gathered dust. It says a lot about Colt management that they could be bankrupt after Obama and Newtown. My favorite was the custom shop Anaconda we got with no rifling. The gun was dirty. They proofed it. If they could make a stainless Detective Special with a stainless lockwork, and make it competitive with the Model 60, that would sell. Most likely they would make it sell for at least $1,000.00 and convince themselves that people will pay that much because it says Colt on it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Good. Now make a new DA/SA revolver. Be prepared to pay "Les Baer money" for it. I'm okay with that. Me too. Why don't they get it? We would buy that shit You would be a serious minority in the gun buying market. We had the limited run Anaconda, the custom shop Python, and we always had a Single Action Army in stock. They gathered dust. It says a lot about Colt management that they could be bankrupt after Obama and Newtown. My favorite was the custom shop Anaconda we got with no rifling. The gun was dirty. They proofed it. If they could make a stainless Detective Special with a stainless lockwork, and make it competitive with the Model 60, that would sell. Most likely they would make it sell for at least $1,000.00 and convince themselves that people will pay that much because it says Colt on it. Yeah, it says that Colt is actually owned by a bunch of hedge fund types who've been pilfering all the cash they can off the company rather than, you know, running a business. |
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Posted: 9/26/2015 4:38:02 AM EDT
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Oh boy, pretty sure I called this in the first thread full of colt haters.
Colt is pretty much Ford. |
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Posted: 9/26/2015 5:03:40 AM EDT
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so is that like 2-3000 rifles? Ha! Good one. 
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Posted: 9/26/2015 8:57:32 AM EDT
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this is pathetic GD can't be happy with a damn thing just bitch bitch bitch.
I am ecstatic the contract did not go to H&K a tleast FNH & colt sell & make firearms for the civilian market. |
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Posted: 9/26/2015 8:58:47 AM EDT
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Syrians like Colts. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/--6o9_W24JMY/T_zI-442GoI/AAAAAAAABi4/MxApIcoxLFk/s1600/Rastan_Syria_resistance.jpg Cheek weld? He ain't got time for that. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/26/2015 9:10:48 AM EDT
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The upside is Colt will be around when I can afford one.
Thing is, they have GOT to figure out great new products and how to sell them to people. |
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Posted: 9/26/2015 9:11:48 AM EDT
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I predict all of the little things they have been doing lately to pretend like they care about the civilian market will go away. The OEM guns, complete uppers, etc. Colt no longer has time for all of that, nor do they care.
There will be zero innovation until 2020. I agree with the above statements about bringing back the revolvers, but I could honestly not care less about Colt rifles. There is nothing special about them and today there are better options with higher fit and finish quality and much better customer service. |
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Posted: 9/26/2015 9:14:29 AM EDT
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Jesus isn't the only savior
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Posted: 9/26/2015 9:15:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can I go back to being a Colt fanboy now?  I thought we hated Colt. We like Colt now? I'm confused. |
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Posted: 9/26/2015 9:18:08 AM EDT
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I guess it wouldn't hurt your pride for the white house to fly American flags made in China then? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's called a mercy bailout. The .mil didn't need Colt..........plenty of others who do just as good or better job at making M4's honest question, how many american owned companies can product at that volume & quality? Doesn't need to be an American company. The world has changed. like it or not. And besides, if a man (or company) can't stand on their own two feet...I would prefer if they went away. We have too many useless eaters in this world as it is. I guess it wouldn't hurt your pride for the white house to fly American flags made in China then? The Pretender-in-Chief doesn't even have flags in the room when he has a press conference. 
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Posted: 9/26/2015 9:21:27 AM EDT
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Just going to prolong the misery at colt. Not nearly enough to put them in the black.
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Posted: 9/26/2015 9:24:33 AM EDT
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Oh boy, pretty sure I called this in the first thread full of colt haters. Colt is pretty much Ford Chevy. FIFY |
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Posted: 9/26/2015 9:27:10 AM EDT
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this is pathetic GD can't be happy with a damn thing just bitch bitch bitch. I am ecstatic the contract did not go to H&K a tleast FNH & colt sell & make firearms for the civilian market. Until Colt is owned and run by people that give a fuck about making guns that the public wants (as well as mil), and runs the company in a non-retarded manner, it isn't going to make a bit of difference. They have a fucking history of going bankrupt. They have this history for a reason. They have been mismanaged for a long time. |
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Posted: 9/26/2015 9:28:56 AM EDT
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Why didn't PSA bid or did they? Cause PSA's shit is made by FN. Why stick a middle man in there? Besides, PSA couldn't get the shipment in the mail by 2020.
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Posted: 9/26/2015 9:32:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cheek weld? He ain't got time for that. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Syrians like Colts. Cheek weld? He ain't got time for that. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Hard to get a good cheek weld while smoking a Marlboro. |
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Posted: 9/26/2015 9:37:10 AM EDT
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Everyone will ignore you to hate on Colt. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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From the Truth About Guns Comments. The contract is shared between FN and Colt by the way. John Paul Epstein • 23 minutes ago
My guess is very little. Based on a feeling in my butt, the majority of it--at least $106 million, which is 50% of the contract--will likely go to FN for supplies, manufacturing and distribution. Colt would likely get royalties on the M4 patent, which would then mostly go towards paying off their debt. So FN gets to stay productive for the U.S. military (because ain't nobody buying their SCAR 'till the cost comes down) and becomes the new golden child for milspec guns, while Colt gets to stay alive until the creditors squeeze every drop of blood that they can. It'd be pretty cool if the tribe that made an offer actually got to own them, once everything is finished. Maybe then Colt will go back to making quality revolvers. Everyone will ignore you to hate on Colt. Colt is not getting all of that money, which is the point of the post. |
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Posted: 9/26/2015 9:43:09 AM EDT
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so is that like 2-3000 rifles? Nope. They're buying them at Walmart for 600 each. |
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Posted: 9/26/2015 9:46:48 AM EDT
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Kicking the can down the road. Expect more of the same and zero innovation. Then it'll be OMG OMG BANKRUPTCY!1!1!1 again in a few years. I stopped caring. Pretty much this. |
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Posted: 9/26/2015 9:47:40 AM EDT
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...and bring back the Diamondback, Python, and Anaconda lines. I've wanted a .22 Diamondback 6" as a mate for my 6" .38 Diamondback forever. The Python is the sexiest handgun EVER made More please...
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Good. Now make a new DA/SA revolver. ...and bring back the Diamondback, Python, and Anaconda lines. I've wanted a .22 Diamondback 6" as a mate for my 6" .38 Diamondback forever. The Python is the sexiest handgun EVER made More please...
It wont be as nice as the old ones were. They no longer have the tooling to make them. |
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Posted: 9/26/2015 9:48:01 AM EDT
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I don't quite understand why they don't make them anymore.
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Good. Now make a new DA/SA revolver. ...and bring back the Diamondback, Python, and Anaconda lines. I've wanted a .22 Diamondback 6" as a mate for my 6" .38 Diamondback forever. The Python is the sexiest handgun EVER made More please...
I don't quite understand why they don't make them anymore.
If you have to ask, then you can't afford it. 
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Posted: 9/26/2015 9:54:35 AM EDT
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Now the union can demand higher everything and threaten the company with a strike.
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