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Posted: 2/25/2020 11:41:32 AM EDT
ITT we discuss one of my favorite items. Concertina wire.

Deals, quick deploy systems, stories, effectiveness, e.t.c anything and everything related to the slice king, Concertina wire.

Lol YOU JUST GOT CONCERTINA'D

Link Posted: 2/25/2020 11:45:02 AM EDT
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I have scars from it.
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 11:46:53 AM EDT
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How did you get concertina'd(tm)?
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 11:46:58 AM EDT
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It's surprisingly cheap.  Been thinking about picking some up!
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 11:47:28 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/25/2020 11:47:57 AM EDT
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I can see a stacks and runs of concertina wire out my window right now. Looks shiny
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 11:49:10 AM EDT
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Same.

Actually the only reason I haven't is because I can see myself giggling while drunk on a Saturday night setting up cwire in my neighborhood.

Wake up to angry neighbors and lots of cuts.
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 11:55:31 AM EDT
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I bought a bunch off the EE many years ago. My advice, get the best gloves you can find to handle it
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 11:59:17 AM EDT
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In for ideas about beefing up the 'ol homestead.
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:02:15 PM EDT
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I've seen gloves with metal inserts in them
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:04:04 PM EDT
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They have specific gloves for handling it.  They are very thick leather with big metal staples all over them to prevent cuts.
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:04:42 PM EDT
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I was talking about c wire the other day with my brother and he referenced the special gloves the give you to handle it.  I'm like "the...what?"
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:06:30 PM EDT
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They have specific gloves for handling it.  They are very thick leather with big metal staples all over them to prevent cuts.
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Yeah those are the ones I've seen.
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:11:25 PM EDT
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Eh, C-wire is just annoying.

What you want is razor wire.

You need chain mail gloves to handle razor wire. We did not have chainmail gloves.
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:15:31 PM EDT
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Eh, C-wire is just annoying.

What you want is razor wire.

You need chain mail gloves to handle razor wire. We did not have chainmail gloves.
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I thought razor wire was just a different name for concertina wire
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:19:32 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:26:23 PM EDT
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Same.

Always thought it'd be kinda neat to try to replicate those concertina trap things from Rainbow 6 as impromptu defenses I mean you're sure as hell not walking through an exploded roll of razor wire thrown down a hallway. At worst it'd just be some badass mall ninja shit
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:26:52 PM EDT
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It seems the nomenclature is pretty muddy. What we knew as C-wire had pointed barbs that you would get caught on. With razor wire the entire barb was sharp; literally a wire lined with razor blades that will slice into you.

One pokes, the other slices. Either should work for area denial, but you can make it through C-wire eventually.
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:28:13 PM EDT
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Running miles of triple strand is so much fun
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:28:47 PM EDT
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Same.

Always thought it'd be kinda neat to try to replicate those concertina trap things from Rainbow 6 as impromptu defenses I mean you're sure as hell not walking through an exploded roll of razor wire thrown down a hallway. At worst it'd just be some badass mall ninja shit
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Same.

Always thought it'd be kinda neat to try to replicate those concertina trap things from Rainbow 6 as impromptu defenses I mean you're sure as hell not walking through an exploded roll of razor wire thrown down a hallway. At worst it'd just be some badass mall ninja shit
I haven't played Rainbow 6, but if it's the triple stands count me in.
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:31:40 PM EDT
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I had a PL that was obsessed with it. We'd put that shit out at NTC and opfor would drive around it. It's an open desert, ya moron. lol
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:32:06 PM EDT
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Seen HMMWVs buried in roll after roll of that shit at JRTC. OPFOR will string it right across the roads, 7+ strand deep to jack up vehicles driving under NVGs at night.
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:34:33 PM EDT
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Popped up in a Craigslist ad when I was looking for fencing.

I thought it would make nice Christmas decorations.  

https://www.repurposedmaterialsinc.com/razor-wire/
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:35:03 PM EDT
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Do you have to do them one at a time or can you quick deploy triple strands into the triangle shape I see
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:35:25 PM EDT
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So it taking it down.
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:35:38 PM EDT
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I want to know all the things about it...
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:37:26 PM EDT
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I can see a stacks and runs of concertina wire out my window right now. Looks shiny
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That's cool they let you surf arfcom from prison

Oh...I guess you could be somewhere else, instead.
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:37:33 PM EDT
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People can't go over it
Vehicles can't go over it
Tanks can't go over it.
It's pretty cheap
It's legal

What's not to love?
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:38:20 PM EDT
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Instead of a thread, shouldn't this be a....

strand?

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Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:40:25 PM EDT
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Did somebody say, "Razor Wire?"

Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:40:35 PM EDT
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Instead of a thread, shouldn't this be a....

strand?

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Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:40:46 PM EDT
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I was escorting an MTVR full of troops off of route Mobile into Ramadi, and we had to drive through a blacked out ECP.

He was right behind me, but somehow ended up in the ditch and wound a huge strand of wire around his tire and axle. There were several pickets in the engine compartment.


Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:42:23 PM EDT
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Hell yes I can.

Or under it.

Or I can steal it and wrap it around a tree

/OPFOR
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:45:53 PM EDT
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I was escorting an MTVRfull of troops off of route Mobile into Ramadi, and we had to drive through a blacked out ECP.

He was right behind me, but somehow ended up in the ditch and wound a huge strand of wire around his tire and axle. There were several pickets in the engine compartment.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/86695/P5140083_JPG-1290761.jpg
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Holy shit!

How long did that take to fix?
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:46:34 PM EDT
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Hell yes I can.

Or under it.

Or I can steal it and wrap it around a tree

/OPFOR
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People can't go over it
Hell yes I can.

Or under it.

Or I can steal it and wrap it around a tree

/OPFOR
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:52:12 PM EDT
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I was escorting an MTVRfull of troops off of route Mobile into Ramadi, and we had to drive through a blacked out ECP.

He was right behind me, but somehow ended up in the ditch and wound a huge strand of wire around his tire and axle. There were several pickets in the engine compartment.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/86695/P5140083_JPG-1290761.jpg
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Link Posted: 2/25/2020 12:52:23 PM EDT
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We spent 20-30 minutes on it with bolt cutters, until someone from the owner's command showed up to take custody, then we bailed.  It was about 2/3 free at that point.

It was supposed to be a five minute turnaround max, with the rest of my team waiting out on the highway.
Link Posted: 2/25/2020 1:59:24 PM EDT
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“A captured VC sapper reported: 'You had lots of wire around Polei Kleng but it was easy to get through. I just don't think you have a defensive barrier that is effective against us.' At Hue, a spearheading sapper company formed four 10-man teams equipped with two B40 and one 1341 rocket launchers as well as AK and CKZ rifles with 200 rounds of ammunition. Each sapper also carried 20 explosive charges to breach fortified defences. Nearly naked, to avoid tangling in wire, a former VC sapper demonstrates infiltration technique.”

Link Posted: 2/26/2020 1:52:20 PM EDT
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“A captured VC sapper reported: 'You had lots of wire around Polei Kleng but it was easy to get through. I just don't think you have a defensive barrier that is effective against us.' At Hue, a spearheading sapper company formed four 10-man teams equipped with two B40 and one 1341 rocket launchers as well as AK and CKZ rifles with 200 rounds of ammunition. Each sapper also carried 20 explosive charges to breach fortified defences. Nearly naked, to avoid tangling in wire, a former VC sapper demonstrates infiltration technique.”

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The problem here is dumb dumbs who think they can throw up wire and count on that as an effective barrier without covering it with fires.

Concertina/Razor wire is a force multiplier that is incredibly effective given its simplicity- provided you have it covered with direct fire weapon systems.  The benefit is allowing a much, much smaller unit the ability to effectively cover a much larger front while funneling the enemy towards your desired engagement areas.

Simply throwing up wire is never enough.
Link Posted: 2/26/2020 2:07:46 PM EDT
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I was escorting an MTVR full of troops off of route Mobile into Ramadi, and we had to drive through a blacked out ECP.

He was right behind me, but somehow ended up in the ditch and wound a huge strand of wire around his tire and axle. There were several pickets in the engine compartment.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/86695/P5140083_JPG-1290761.jpg
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That is a shitty day.
Link Posted: 2/26/2020 2:14:10 PM EDT
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Are there any legal issues with deploying this on private property?
Link Posted: 2/26/2020 2:17:09 PM EDT
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I've got 10 rolls, because why not. I need some of those red triangle "mines" signs now.
Link Posted: 2/26/2020 2:20:06 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 2/26/2020 2:23:37 PM EDT
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I used to install quite a bit of both at the fence company..the normal wire is childs play, the razor wire is a bitch. Don't care what you wear, by the time you are done, you are going to have at least 2 cuts from it. Easiest way to handle it is with the proper gloves and a good set of fence pliers.
Link Posted: 2/26/2020 2:24:48 PM EDT
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I ordered 20 rolls on Amazon to secure house against Corona zombies.
Link Posted: 2/26/2020 2:25:10 PM EDT
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So right up against the NJ border huh?
Link Posted: 2/26/2020 2:34:29 PM EDT
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I was escorting an MTVR full of troops off of route Mobile into Ramadi, and we had to drive through a blacked out ECP.

He was right behind me, but somehow ended up in the ditch and wound a huge strand of wire around his tire and axle. There were several pickets in the engine compartment.

https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/86695/P5140083_JPG-1290761.jpg
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Oh fuck that.
Link Posted: 2/26/2020 2:35:12 PM EDT
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We spent 20-30 minutes on it with bolt cutters, until someone from the owner's command showed up to take custody, then we bailed.  It was about 2/3 free at that point.

It was supposed to be a five minute turnaround max, with the rest of my team waiting out on the highway.
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Well that isn't too bad. Still shity.
Link Posted: 2/26/2020 2:39:11 PM EDT
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This machine takes all the fun out of it.

deploy-rapid deployment barrier ( mobile security barrier, Razor barbed wire barrier)
Link Posted: 2/26/2020 2:48:42 PM EDT
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I had a PL that was obsessed with it. We'd put that shit out at NTC and opfor would drive around it. It's an open desert, ya moron. lol
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I had a PL that was obsessed with it. We'd put that shit out at NTC and opfor would drive around it. It's an open desert, ya moron. lol
Maybe he wanted them to go that way . Just a thought . Every self respecting American should have a stockpile of  concertina/razor and/ or barbed wire sitting around . For reasons .
Link Posted: 2/26/2020 2:49:57 PM EDT
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They made use carry a couple roles on the back of our tanks, draped over the tail lights and wired to the rear engine grill and release pin for fender

The wire would break and the next thing you knew, it rotated down and into the tracks (it happened so often we would remove the 4 rear skirts BEFORE going to the field)
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