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Posted: 2/10/2018 8:46:26 PM EDT
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When has Syria killed/kidnapped/mutilated Americans? Because after listening to a survivor of the USS Liberty attack at my church recently I can tell you exactly when Israel did killed and mutilated Americans. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: It's amazing that you have no similar response for Iran or Syria. Your Muslim brothers just received billions from Obama and still kill/kidnap/mutilate Americans. Show us where on the doll where Israel touched you. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 8:50:37 PM EDT
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Why the Golan Heights are ruthlessly defended by Israel should be blatantly evident by this pic, and why Syria/Hez would like it back. http://israelseen.com/shows/2016/04/iu.png |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 8:54:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ll take (C) don’t give my money to any foreign nation. I don’t want to be cucked by any country that hates America. That goes for Israel, Iran, NK, the UK, France, Germany, Mexico, etc. Given the choice of nations and twice as many more that are not on your list I don't mind Israel getting some of mine as all these other fuckin "shitholes" Israel is not a "shithole" for one, for reason #2, I don't mind a strong ally of the US in that region, with the power to kick just about anybody's fuckin ass! You don't like it, to bad, you should have voted Hillary. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 9:00:23 PM EDT
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Yeah, that was a stupid move on their part. |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 9:08:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what about people from Iran who move here and support Trump? That was easy, do you really think it matters who they say they support? |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 9:17:22 PM EDT
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Reason #1 to support Israel:
Every Muslim country in the world hates Israel as much or more than they hate the United States. Reason #2 to support Israel: Beauty and firepower If you need a third reason, you're obviously either homosexual or agree with the "Death to Israel! Death to America" rhetoric of the Iranians. Or you're a gay Iranian? |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 9:32:03 PM EDT
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Reason #1 to support Israel: Every Muslim country in the world hates Israel as much or more than they hate the United States. Reason #2 to support Israel: Beauty and firepower If you need a third reason, you're obviously either homosexual or agree with the "Death to Israel! Death to America" rhetoric of the Iranians. Or you're a gay Iranian? 
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Posted: 2/10/2018 9:50:42 PM EDT
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Yes, their called sleeper cells... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/10/2018 9:58:22 PM EDT
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Reason #1 to support Israel: Every Muslim country in the world hates Israel as much or more than they hate the United States. Reason #2 to support Israel: Beauty and firepower If you need a third reason, you're obviously either homosexual or agree with the "Death to Israel! Death to America" rhetoric of the Iranians. Or you're a gay Iranian? |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 9:58:22 PM EDT
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Here is a good article that explains how the Air Defense System has been upgraded, it appears that the rockets are still older rockets, still effective to some degree, but its the information sharing where the SAM sites now appear to be integrated via updated Russian radar systems. It appears they can 'SEE' a lot better.
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/13836/its-official-russia-and-syria-have-linked-their-air-defense-networks |
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Posted: 2/10/2018 11:54:45 PM EDT
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Reason #1 to support Israel: Every Muslim country in the world hates Israel as much or more than they hate the United States. Reason #2 to support Israel: Beauty and firepower If you need a third reason, you're obviously either homosexual or agree with the "Death to Israel! Death to America" rhetoric of the Iranians. Or you're a gay Iranian?  I think they're Iranians. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:02:18 AM EDT
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Israel is a bastion of success in a region of #shitholes. Looking at Nobel prize winners alone, they stand out against failed Arab states.
No country is perfect but I side with them everytime against the Arabs. Hope they smack Syria and Iran around. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:20:41 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/11/2018 12:51:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is my belief also. Unfortunately we have a lot of dual citizen Israelis and Apocalyptic Evangelists in our country who would gladly bleed the U.S. down to its last soldier and tax dollar if it meant pulling Israel's ass out of the fire (again). |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 1:28:45 AM EDT
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Has this been posted yet?
F-16 pilot parachuting after being shot down. https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=61a_1518250543 |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 1:34:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve never heard it Quote HistoryQuoted: I’ve never heard it https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-scientific-equivalent-of-when-did-you-stop-beating-493171652 http://www.mrmediatraining.com/2011/09/19/when-did-you-stop-beating-your-wife/ https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/212706/on-using-phrases-like-have-you-stopped-beating-your-wife-to-point-out-logical https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/wife-beating_question And those are just the results that have the question in the URL. Trust me, it's pretty widely known. Quoted: lol With all the History PhDs in this thread, you'd think someone would have told you about Avigdor Lieberman. Sometimes, I wonder what planet some people live on. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 1:44:54 AM EDT
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He got three COC6 explanations he's going to have to explain, I'm just reporting him at this point. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Real simple philosophy i have. LEAVE MY FAMILY OUT OF ANY PART OF THE MOTHERFUCKING DISCUSSION. I don't give a shit what expectation of a thread you want, three times now Bland85 made disparaging remarks about my family. This isn't fucking 4chan. I don't care if he was speaking in riddles or metaphors or rhetorically or in fucking jest. Negatively mention my family, THOSE ARE FIGHTING WORDS.  Grown men all up in arfcom tonight
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Posted: 2/11/2018 1:47:01 AM EDT
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Would the mods care if we started a different thread discussing this same topic but without all the purse swinging? This thread is a dumpster fire. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 3:31:00 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/11/2018 3:50:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/11/2018 5:00:30 AM EDT
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So...like they have been? Quote HistoryQuoted:
So...like they have been? Russia slums around with their fellow derelict countries. What else is new. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 7:59:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To be fair, this is a Syria related thread, no? |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 8:09:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/11/2018 10:04:00 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/11/2018 10:20:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/11/2018 11:36:36 AM EDT
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LOL seriously? So are you inferring that they haven't been up to this point? Quote HistoryQuoted:
LOL seriously? So are you inferring that they haven't been up to this point? I know reading and reading comprehension is hard for GD. So there it is. 
Let's see if Russia brings in a bunch of S-400s and starts painting Israel's aircraft when they get close to the border. That may be where this goes if Israel doesn't back down and stop targeting Iranian assets. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 11:46:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not in regards to Israel. They have been staying out of Israel's way up to this point and allowing them to launch strikes inside Syria unoppsed. That may change if they continue targeting Iranians and Iranian assets inside Syria. Until now, Israel has largely only targeted Hezbollah weapons shipments with a Russian understanding that that was cool. This new aggressiveness Israel is taking may change things. I know reading and reading comprehension is hard for GD. So there it is.
Let's see if Russia brings in a bunch of S-400s and starts painting Israel's aircraft when they get close to the border. That may be where this goes if Israel doesn't back down and stop targeting Iranian assets. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 11:54:24 AM EDT
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I hope those S-400s have had their shots. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Not in regards to Israel. They have been staying out of Israel's way up to this point and allowing them to launch strikes inside Syria unoppsed. That may change if they continue targeting Iranians and Iranian assets inside Syria. Until now, Israel has largely only targeted Hezbollah weapons shipments with a Russian understanding that that was cool. This new aggressiveness Israel is taking may change things. I know reading and reading comprehension is hard for GD. So there it is.
Let's see if Russia brings in a bunch of S-400s and starts painting Israel's aircraft when they get close to the border. That may be where this goes if Israel doesn't back down and stop targeting Iranian assets. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:06:45 PM EDT
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Not in regards to Israel. They have been staying out of Israel's way up to this point and allowing them to launch strikes inside Syria unoppsed. That may change if they continue targeting Iranians and Iranian assets inside Syria. Until now, Israel has largely only targeted Hezbollah weapons shipments with a Russian understanding that that was cool. This new aggressiveness Israel is taking may change things. I know reading and reading comprehension is hard for GD. So there it is.
Let's see if Russia brings in a bunch of S-400s and starts painting Israel's aircraft when they get close to the border. That may be where this goes if Israel doesn't back down and stop targeting Iranian assets. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL seriously? So are you inferring that they haven't been up to this point? I know reading and reading comprehension is hard for GD. So there it is.
Let's see if Russia brings in a bunch of S-400s and starts painting Israel's aircraft when they get close to the border. That may be where this goes if Israel doesn't back down and stop targeting Iranian assets. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:24:46 PM EDT
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Israel does not have the luxury of being able to back down. They cannot signal weakness. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL seriously? So are you inferring that they haven't been up to this point? I know reading and reading comprehension is hard for GD. So there it is.
Let's see if Russia brings in a bunch of S-400s and starts painting Israel's aircraft when they get close to the border. That may be where this goes if Israel doesn't back down and stop targeting Iranian assets. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:31:08 PM EDT
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What they can't afford is to get into a shooting war with Russia. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL seriously? So are you inferring that they haven't been up to this point? I know reading and reading comprehension is hard for GD. So there it is.
Let's see if Russia brings in a bunch of S-400s and starts painting Israel's aircraft when they get close to the border. That may be where this goes if Israel doesn't back down and stop targeting Iranian assets. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:33:19 PM EDT
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Let's see if Russia brings in a bunch of S-400s and starts painting Israel's aircraft when they get close to the border. That may be where this goes if Israel doesn't back down and stop targeting Iranian assets.  Israel has nukes. What happens when someone purposely escalates something into a shooting war with a nuclear power, based solely on previous examples in history? Make sure you list all the times the Russians or US shot down opposing forces whose nation possessed a nuclear arsenal. You'll probably need lots of spaces to fill in allllllllllllllllllll those examples. But forget nukes for a second. Go open up Google Maps and look where "Syria" is located. Is it close to Russia? Go read up on how those Russian ADA and aircraft are supplied. What route cargo flights must maintain and the route naval vessels must go? What factor do "supply lines" play in military operations? What happens when Russia, surrounded on the south by the Israelis they are attacking, and to the east by the US, who are allies of the Israelis and already antagonistic to Russia, escalates a war in which they have fuck all for forces in theater and no hopes for resupply? And what happens to a ADA radar is left on? What can opposing forces learn from getting "painted?" By doing so, can intelligence be learned to counter such radars? Can drones track radar signatures to decipher exact locations? What happens to S-400 missile batteries when they have no radar to guide them? I know you're giddy for a Russian reaction to put the evil Israelis in their place because they keep killing those brave Hezbollah controlled by most proud and illustrious Iranian people, but your giddiness is negatively infecting your analytical abilities. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:36:08 PM EDT
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That is fucking hilarious, Russia got fought to a stand still by the Ukraine. THE FUCKING UKRAINE! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL seriously? So are you inferring that they haven't been up to this point? I know reading and reading comprehension is hard for GD. So there it is.
Let's see if Russia brings in a bunch of S-400s and starts painting Israel's aircraft when they get close to the border. That may be where this goes if Israel doesn't back down and stop targeting Iranian assets. They have also carved out a buffer zone in eastern Ukraine, which they've maintained. Most of their objectives have been accomplished there, including the taking of Crimea. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:39:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Israel would not need, and does not need, us to pull their ass out of the fire... we hold them back. How many SCUDs rained down on them during the Gulf War that they did not respond to because we asked them not to? They could take care of themselves just fine if we let them make decisions wholly in their interest, without giving in to our demands that they hold back. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:40:01 PM EDT
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What they can't afford is to get into a shooting war with Russia. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL seriously? So are you inferring that they haven't been up to this point? I know reading and reading comprehension is hard for GD. So there it is.
Let's see if Russia brings in a bunch of S-400s and starts painting Israel's aircraft when they get close to the border. That may be where this goes if Israel doesn't back down and stop targeting Iranian assets. 
Russian can't afford to get into a shooting war with anyone. They're being hemmed in everywhere, their govt is being crippled by existing sanctions, severe enough that Russia slashed their entire budget, to include the defense budget (say bye bye to the reforms idea). Israel is hardly the only state actor that Russia would go to war with in this scenario, I love how you avoid the fact that Israel's defense is guaranteed by the US, who might have issues with Russians doing what you're claiming they should do. Your eye is so focused on micro, driven by your love affair for Iran and your hatred for Israel, that its clouding your ability to see big picture. In your esteemed and no doubt highly educated mind, what happens to Putin and Russian short and long term by going to war against two nuclear powers, the US and Israel, the former of the two also having the legitimate ability to utterly destroy Russia militarily and economically? You think Putin will do this to stop Israelis from retaliating against Syrian and Iran when THEY are the ones who initially invaded someone else's airspace? Get real. Putin doesn't have a death wish. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:49:11 PM EDT
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Top notch analysis, you'd be the pride of the CIA. Israel has nukes. What happens when someone purposely escalates something into a shooting war with a nuclear power, based solely on previous examples in history? Make sure you list all the times the Russians or US shot down opposing forces whose nation possessed a nuclear arsenal. You'll probably need lots of spaces to fill in allllllllllllllllllll those examples. But forget nukes for a second. Go open up Google Maps and look where "Syria" is located. Is it close to Russia? Go read up on how those Russian ADA and aircraft are supplied. What route cargo flights must maintain and the route naval vessels must go? What factor do "supply lines" play in military operations? What happens when Russia, surrounded on the south by the Israelis they are attacking, and to the east by the US, who are allies of the Israelis and already antagonistic to Russia, escalates a war in which they have fuck all for forces in theater and no hopes for resupply? And what happens to a ADA radar is left on? What can opposing forces learn from getting "painted?" By doing so, can intelligence be learned to counter such radars? Can drones track radar signatures to decipher exact locations? What happens to S-400 missile batteries when they have no radar to guide them? I know you're giddy for a Russian reaction to put the evil Israelis in their place because they keep killing those brave Hezbollah controlled by most proud and illustrious Iranian people, but your giddiness is negatively infecting your analytical abilities. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Let's see if Russia brings in a bunch of S-400s and starts painting Israel's aircraft when they get close to the border. That may be where this goes if Israel doesn't back down and stop targeting Iranian assets. Israel has nukes. What happens when someone purposely escalates something into a shooting war with a nuclear power, based solely on previous examples in history? Make sure you list all the times the Russians or US shot down opposing forces whose nation possessed a nuclear arsenal. You'll probably need lots of spaces to fill in allllllllllllllllllll those examples. But forget nukes for a second. Go open up Google Maps and look where "Syria" is located. Is it close to Russia? Go read up on how those Russian ADA and aircraft are supplied. What route cargo flights must maintain and the route naval vessels must go? What factor do "supply lines" play in military operations? What happens when Russia, surrounded on the south by the Israelis they are attacking, and to the east by the US, who are allies of the Israelis and already antagonistic to Russia, escalates a war in which they have fuck all for forces in theater and no hopes for resupply? And what happens to a ADA radar is left on? What can opposing forces learn from getting "painted?" By doing so, can intelligence be learned to counter such radars? Can drones track radar signatures to decipher exact locations? What happens to S-400 missile batteries when they have no radar to guide them? I know you're giddy for a Russian reaction to put the evil Israelis in their place because they keep killing those brave Hezbollah controlled by most proud and illustrious Iranian people, but your giddiness is negatively infecting your analytical abilities. MAD would always deter the Israelis from engaging Russia with nukes. Russia would be able to resupply easily... if Israel tried to sink Russian ships in the Med, it would be an escalation they couldn't control. Iran and Iraq also provide a friendly corridor via their airspace, the same way all other material has been getting into the country for years. The ADA radars would give a couple warnings, then start shooting down planes if needed. Russia has the surveillance assets necessary to know when an Israeli strike is coming. I have nether the time or inclination to debate you point by point, because you are wrong. You're only trying to antagonize me because you don't like my posts, though you can't, because I don't give 2 shits what you think. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 2:53:00 PM EDT
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Russian can't afford to get into a shooting war with anyone. They're being hemmed in everywhere, their govt is being crippled by existing sanctions, severe enough that Russia slashed their entire budget, to include the defense budget (say bye bye to the reforms idea). Israel is hardly the only state actor that Russia would go to war with in this scenario, I love how you avoid the fact that Israel's defense is guaranteed by the US, who might have issues with Russians doing what you're claiming they should do. Your eye is so focused on micro, driven by your love affair for Iran and your hatred for Israel, that its clouding your ability to see big picture. In your esteemed and no doubt highly educated mind, what happens to Putin and Russian short and long term by going to war against two nuclear powers, the US and Israel, the former of the two also having the legitimate ability to utterly destroy Russia militarily and economically? You think Putin will do this to stop Israelis from retaliating against Syrian and Iran when THEY are the ones who initially invaded someone else's airspace? Get real. Putin doesn't have a death wish. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL seriously? So are you inferring that they haven't been up to this point? I know reading and reading comprehension is hard for GD. So there it is.
Let's see if Russia brings in a bunch of S-400s and starts painting Israel's aircraft when they get close to the border. That may be where this goes if Israel doesn't back down and stop targeting Iranian assets.
Russian can't afford to get into a shooting war with anyone. They're being hemmed in everywhere, their govt is being crippled by existing sanctions, severe enough that Russia slashed their entire budget, to include the defense budget (say bye bye to the reforms idea). Israel is hardly the only state actor that Russia would go to war with in this scenario, I love how you avoid the fact that Israel's defense is guaranteed by the US, who might have issues with Russians doing what you're claiming they should do. Your eye is so focused on micro, driven by your love affair for Iran and your hatred for Israel, that its clouding your ability to see big picture. In your esteemed and no doubt highly educated mind, what happens to Putin and Russian short and long term by going to war against two nuclear powers, the US and Israel, the former of the two also having the legitimate ability to utterly destroy Russia militarily and economically? You think Putin will do this to stop Israelis from retaliating against Syrian and Iran when THEY are the ones who initially invaded someone else's airspace? Get real. Putin doesn't have a death wish. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 3:03:30 PM EDT
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No one has any doubt that Russia is active in Ukraine. But Russia has tried to keep a token level of deniability by avoiding using its air force and many other major combat systems in Ukraine. Russia's goal in Ukraine was never to win that conflict, but to totally destabilize it, in order to spoil any attempt for Ukraine to enter NATO. You fundamentally misunderstand Russia's goals / objectives in Ukraine. Go do some reading on the subject. They have also carved out a buffer zone in eastern Ukraine, which they've maintained. Most of their objectives have been accomplished there, including the taking of Crimea. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL seriously? So are you inferring that they haven't been up to this point? I know reading and reading comprehension is hard for GD. So there it is.
Let's see if Russia brings in a bunch of S-400s and starts painting Israel's aircraft when they get close to the border. That may be where this goes if Israel doesn't back down and stop targeting Iranian assets. They have also carved out a buffer zone in eastern Ukraine, which they've maintained. Most of their objectives have been accomplished there, including the taking of Crimea. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 3:05:13 PM EDT
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Has this been posted yet? F-16 pilot parachuting after being shot down. https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=61a_1518250543 |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 3:13:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia would get their shit pushed in if they went air to air in the Middle east with Israel. Russia will not go into Israel on the ground any more than Israel would in Syria. (Israel might use unconventional troops in Syria, Russia will never use unconventional troops in Israel) So I wouldn't put it past the Russians to try something similarly stupid in Israel. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 3:13:22 PM EDT
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Fuck's sake. Russia wouldn't put proper forces into Syria and you are thinking they're going to war with Israel? This is disregarding the fact that their defense minister is a bigger Putin fan than Paul Manafort. It's not happening.
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Posted: 2/11/2018 3:21:26 PM EDT
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Russia would get their shit pushed in if they went air to air in the Middle east with Israel. Russia will not go into Israel on the ground any more than Israel would in Syria. (Israel might use unconventional troops in Syria, Russia will never use unconventional troops in Israel) Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL seriously? So are you inferring that they haven't been up to this point? I know reading and reading comprehension is hard for GD. So there it is.
Let's see if Russia brings in a bunch of S-400s and starts painting Israel's aircraft when they get close to the border. That may be where this goes if Israel doesn't back down and stop targeting Iranian assets. They have also carved out a buffer zone in eastern Ukraine, which they've maintained. Most of their objectives have been accomplished there, including the taking of Crimea. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 3:23:49 PM EDT
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Fuck's sake. Russia wouldn't put proper forces into Syria and you are thinking they're going to war with Israel? This is disregarding the fact that their defense minister is a bigger Putin fan than Paul Manafort. It's not happening. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 3:24:46 PM EDT
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And why do you suppose they hold back at our request? Because they know the free weapons will stop arriving if they don't play nice. It's time to stop borrowing money from China only to turn around and hand it to other nations. I'm tired of watching the debt blow up. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 3:39:22 PM EDT
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Ezekiel Chapter 38 - end of story. I dare anyone to doubt it.
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Posted: 2/11/2018 3:51:16 PM EDT
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Lol if you think Mattis is going to go to war with Russia because Israel wants to pick a fight with Russia and Iran. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL seriously? So are you inferring that they haven't been up to this point? I know reading and reading comprehension is hard for GD. So there it is.
Let's see if Russia brings in a bunch of S-400s and starts painting Israel's aircraft when they get close to the border. That may be where this goes if Israel doesn't back down and stop targeting Iranian assets.
Russian can't afford to get into a shooting war with anyone. They're being hemmed in everywhere, their govt is being crippled by existing sanctions, severe enough that Russia slashed their entire budget, to include the defense budget (say bye bye to the reforms idea). Israel is hardly the only state actor that Russia would go to war with in this scenario, I love how you avoid the fact that Israel's defense is guaranteed by the US, who might have issues with Russians doing what you're claiming they should do. Your eye is so focused on micro, driven by your love affair for Iran and your hatred for Israel, that its clouding your ability to see big picture. In your esteemed and no doubt highly educated mind, what happens to Putin and Russian short and long term by going to war against two nuclear powers, the US and Israel, the former of the two also having the legitimate ability to utterly destroy Russia militarily and economically? You think Putin will do this to stop Israelis from retaliating against Syrian and Iran when THEY are the ones who initially invaded someone else's airspace? Get real. Putin doesn't have a death wish. Better question. Do you think Putin is willing to go to war with Mattis? |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 3:53:02 PM EDT
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Why the Golan Heights are ruthlessly defended by Israel should be blatantly evident by this pic, and why Syria/Hez would like it back. http://israelseen.com/shows/2016/04/iu.png |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 3:57:16 PM EDT
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You do know Obama is gone, right? Better question. Do you think Putin is willing to go to war with Mattis? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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LOL seriously? So are you inferring that they haven't been up to this point? I know reading and reading comprehension is hard for GD. So there it is.
Let's see if Russia brings in a bunch of S-400s and starts painting Israel's aircraft when they get close to the border. That may be where this goes if Israel doesn't back down and stop targeting Iranian assets.
Russian can't afford to get into a shooting war with anyone. They're being hemmed in everywhere, their govt is being crippled by existing sanctions, severe enough that Russia slashed their entire budget, to include the defense budget (say bye bye to the reforms idea). Israel is hardly the only state actor that Russia would go to war with in this scenario, I love how you avoid the fact that Israel's defense is guaranteed by the US, who might have issues with Russians doing what you're claiming they should do. Your eye is so focused on micro, driven by your love affair for Iran and your hatred for Israel, that its clouding your ability to see big picture. In your esteemed and no doubt highly educated mind, what happens to Putin and Russian short and long term by going to war against two nuclear powers, the US and Israel, the former of the two also having the legitimate ability to utterly destroy Russia militarily and economically? You think Putin will do this to stop Israelis from retaliating against Syrian and Iran when THEY are the ones who initially invaded someone else's airspace? Get real. Putin doesn't have a death wish. Better question. Do you think Putin is willing to go to war with Mattis? |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 4:00:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Top notch analysis, you'd be the pride of the CIA. Israel has nukes. What happens when someone purposely escalates something into a shooting war with a nuclear power, based solely on previous examples in history? Make sure you list all the times the Russians or US shot down opposing forces whose nation possessed a nuclear arsenal. You'll probably need lots of spaces to fill in allllllllllllllllllll those examples. But forget nukes for a second. Go open up Google Maps and look where "Syria" is located. Is it close to Russia? Go read up on how those Russian ADA and aircraft are supplied. What route cargo flights must maintain and the route naval vessels must go? What factor do "supply lines" play in military operations? What happens when Russia, surrounded on the south by the Israelis they are attacking, and to the east by the US, who are allies of the Israelis and already antagonistic to Russia, escalates a war in which they have fuck all for forces in theater and no hopes for resupply? And what happens to a ADA radar is left on? What can opposing forces learn from getting "painted?" By doing so, can intelligence be learned to counter such radars? Can drones track radar signatures to decipher exact locations? What happens to S-400 missile batteries when they have no radar to guide them? I know you're giddy for a Russian reaction to put the evil Israelis in their place because they keep killing those brave Hezbollah controlled by most proud and illustrious Iranian people, but your giddiness is negatively infecting your analytical abilities. |
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Posted: 2/11/2018 4:05:53 PM EDT
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LOL seriously? So are you inferring that they haven't been up to this point? I know reading and reading comprehension is hard for GD. So there it is.
Let's see if Russia brings in a bunch of S-400s and starts painting Israel's aircraft when they get close to the border. That may be where this goes if Israel doesn't back down and stop targeting Iranian assets.
Russian can't afford to get into a shooting war with anyone. They're being hemmed in everywhere, their govt is being crippled by existing sanctions, severe enough that Russia slashed their entire budget, to include the defense budget (say bye bye to the reforms idea). Israel is hardly the only state actor that Russia would go to war with in this scenario, I love how you avoid the fact that Israel's defense is guaranteed by the US, who might have issues with Russians doing what you're claiming they should do. Your eye is so focused on micro, driven by your love affair for Iran and your hatred for Israel, that its clouding your ability to see big picture. In your esteemed and no doubt highly educated mind, what happens to Putin and Russian short and long term by going to war against two nuclear powers, the US and Israel, the former of the two also having the legitimate ability to utterly destroy Russia militarily and economically? You think Putin will do this to stop Israelis from retaliating against Syrian and Iran when THEY are the ones who initially invaded someone else's airspace? Get real. Putin doesn't have a death wish. Better question. Do you think Putin is willing to go to war with Mattis? |
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