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Posted: 4/6/2019 7:19:19 AM EDT
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I am both heartbroken and in full compliance with the rule. My heartfelt thanks go out to NoloContendere, SuperMoose, wolfwood, Joshua Prince, and every other member of the legal team, as well as everyone that has supported the fight. The hours put in toward this fight are countless. The cost of this fight, on a personal level, has been great, and the debt owed is greater. Mark LaRue will always have my respect and admiration, but not just for how much money he has raised for this and other pro 2A fights. No, that is too easy - lesser men have raised as much or more money for far less just causes. Mark LaRue changed his position on bump stocks, and for a man to publicly change his position is rare. His change of heart was not because he suddenly saw them as a tactical weapons platform, but he recognized the underlying legal issues and potential for cascading failure to more precious things, and when he saw the potential for collateral damage he was man enough not only to change, but to become the largest fundraiser for the fight. It is so rare for a successful and prideful man to change his position on something so polarizing, and to do so in such bold fashion, that it is both astounding and awe inspiring. I'm spent. The fight is now academic to me. Better men than I may still have skin in the game, but after a year and half I'm all out of hope or answers. 
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Posted: 4/6/2019 8:37:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe they can still do that-lets decide this shit once and for all and get it over with.No more death of a thousand cuts-ban all semi auto's and lets see how it plays out.......... The majority seems content to allow the Circuit Courts to chip away at what remains of the Second Amendment. My best estimate is that the court will finally rule on such a ban only after the majority of the Courts of Appeals have upheld them. To date there have been four which have done so (unless I'm forgetting some case(s)). |
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Posted: 4/6/2019 8:52:17 AM EDT
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I wouldn't count on the Supreme Court to rule on a ban on "assault weapons" any time soon. The majority seems content to allow the Circuit Courts to chip away at what remains of the Second Amendment. My best estimate is that the court will finally rule on such a ban only after the majority of the Courts of Appeals have upheld them. To date there have been four which have done so (unless I'm forgetting some case(s)). Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Maybe they can still do that-lets decide this shit once and for all and get it over with.No more death of a thousand cuts-ban all semi auto's and lets see how it plays out.......... The majority seems content to allow the Circuit Courts to chip away at what remains of the Second Amendment. My best estimate is that the court will finally rule on such a ban only after the majority of the Courts of Appeals have upheld them. To date there have been four which have done so (unless I'm forgetting some case(s)). |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 3:15:50 PM EDT
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All said and done the cases were a complete FAILURE.
If you want to praise the effort then so be it. The end result is all that matters. WTF, the case for confiscation without compensation even failed. Sorry, but it was a failure at every turn. There comes a point when just trying isn't good enough. Loss after Loss after Loss. |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 3:21:59 PM EDT
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All said and done the cases were a complete FAILURE. If you want to praise the effort then so be it. The end result is all that matters. WTF, the case for confiscation without compensation even failed. Sorry, but it was a failure at every turn. They did more than you did...or ever will... all I have seen from you is criticism of people who fought for our rights........ |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 3:23:26 PM EDT
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All said and done the cases were a complete FAILURE. If you want to praise the effort then so be it. The end result is all that matters. WTF, the case for confiscation without compensation even failed. Sorry, but it was a failure at every turn. And no one cares. Not the NRA, not Trump, and not Trump supporters. No one is Foing over this blatant tyrannical action by all wings of government. Basically no one cares the game was rigged. We are alone. |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 3:49:22 PM EDT
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Did you donate to their efforts? Did you support them? I'm guess all you did is sit back and do nothing They did more than you did...or ever will... all I have seen from you is criticism of people who fought for our rights........ |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 3:58:54 PM EDT
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All said and done the cases were a complete FAILURE. If you want to praise the effort then so be it. The end result is all that matters. WTF, the case for confiscation without compensation even failed. Sorry, but it was a failure at every turn. There comes a point when just trying isn't good enough. Loss after Loss after Loss. |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 4:07:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Look Marion, we did our best. It’s not over yet. Next time y’all meet for the second amendment coalition, make sure you take adequate minutes. |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 4:12:36 PM EDT
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Join date checks out...
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Posted: 4/7/2019 4:16:35 PM EDT
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With all due respect Sir, I have no praise for you based on performance. You are probably a great guy, but as far as praise goes.................. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Look Marion, we did our best. It's not over yet. Next time y'all meet for the second amendment coalition, make sure you take adequate minutes. |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 4:16:43 PM EDT
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All said and done the cases were a complete FAILURE. If you want to praise the effort then so be it. The end result is all that matters. WTF, the case for confiscation without compensation even failed. Sorry, but it was a failure at every turn. There comes a point when just trying isn't good enough. Loss after Loss after Loss. |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 4:18:38 PM EDT
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With all due respect Sir, I have no praise for you based on performance. You are probably a great guy, but as far as praise goes.................. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Look Marion, we did our best. It's not over yet. Next time y'all meet for the second amendment coalition, make sure you take adequate minutes. |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 4:18:45 PM EDT
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With all due respect Sir, I have no praise for you based on performance. You are probably a great guy, but as far as praise goes.................. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Look Marion, we did our best. It’s not over yet. Next time y’all meet for the second amendment coalition, make sure you take adequate minutes. |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 4:21:42 PM EDT
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Don't worry guys. The troll is actually a 3%er.
I'm sure he is gearing up to take the fight to the man personally and make it all right by the founding fathers. He just hastily made a free account to 87d chess us before he fo'd. |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 4:24:55 PM EDT
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All said and done the cases were a complete FAILURE. If you want to praise the effort then so be it. The end result is all that matters. WTF, the case for confiscation without compensation even failed. Sorry, but it was a failure at every turn. There comes a point when just trying isn't good enough. Loss after Loss after Loss. 
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Posted: 4/7/2019 4:25:48 PM EDT
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All said and done the cases were a complete FAILURE. If you want to praise the effort then so be it. The end result is all that matters. WTF, the case for confiscation without compensation even failed. Sorry, but it was a failure at every turn. There comes a point when just trying isn't good enough. Loss after Loss after Loss. |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 4:28:41 PM EDT
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With all due respect Sir, I have no praise for you based on performance. You are probably a great guy, but as far as praise goes.................. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Look Marion, we did our best. It’s not over yet. Next time y’all meet for the second amendment coalition, make sure you take adequate minutes. |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 4:30:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No worries. I'm sure if/when we lose this case your DIAS will increase in value, so there's that. And I'm really not that great of a guy anyway. 
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Posted: 4/7/2019 4:54:10 PM EDT
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Fought for our rights? Its due time for a WIN for our rights. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Did you donate to their efforts? Did you support them? I'm guess all you did is sit back and do nothing They did more than you did...or ever will... all I have seen from you is criticism of people who fought for our rights........ |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 6:09:38 PM EDT
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All said and done the cases were a complete FAILURE. If you want to praise the effort then so be it. The end result is all that matters. WTF, the case for confiscation without compensation even failed. Sorry, but it was a failure at every turn. There comes a point when just trying isn't good enough. Loss after Loss after Loss. |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 6:14:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With all due respect Sir, I have no praise for you based on performance. You are probably a great guy, but as far as praise goes.................. |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 6:34:49 PM EDT
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Adam is the only one I voted for!!!! Thanks all 
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Posted: 4/7/2019 6:38:00 PM EDT
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Thank you gentlemen for fighting for our rights, we all appreciate it  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Thanks for the continued fight, Nolo.
Give 'em hell! 
Patiently waiting for round 6 dillos.
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Posted: 4/7/2019 6:53:47 PM EDT
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All said and done the cases were a complete FAILURE. If you want to praise the effort then so be it. The end result is all that matters. WTF, the case for confiscation without compensation even failed. Sorry, but it was a failure at every turn. There comes a point when just trying isn't good enough. Loss after Loss after Loss. |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 7:00:31 PM EDT
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With all due respect Sir, I have no praise for you based on performance. You are probably a great guy, but as far as praise goes.................. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Look Marion, we did our best. It’s not over yet. Next time y’all meet for the second amendment coalition, make sure you take adequate minutes. |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 7:07:39 PM EDT
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With all due respect Sir, I have no praise for you based on performance. You are probably a great guy, but as far as praise goes.................. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Look Marion, we did our best. It’s not over yet. Next time y’all meet for the second amendment coalition, make sure you take adequate minutes. |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 7:37:35 PM EDT
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With all due respect Sir, I have no praise for you based on performance. You are probably a great guy, but as far as praise goes.................. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Look Marion, we did our best. It’s not over yet. Next time y’all meet for the second amendment coalition, make sure you take adequate minutes. |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 7:45:49 PM EDT
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Post up the 2A court cases you have won.............I will wait. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 4/7/2019 7:47:16 PM EDT
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BRN-180 v ARFCOM- Went Full Retard Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Look Marion, we did our best. It’s not over yet. Next time y’all meet for the second amendment coalition, make sure you take adequate minutes. |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 7:52:29 PM EDT
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But Trump and his SCOTUS nominees where promised to be 2A friendly...  Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So that means Kavanaugh denied as well? Wow much 2A, such conservative! 
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Posted: 4/7/2019 7:53:12 PM EDT
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The operative word was won. He ain't agonna win this one. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 4/7/2019 7:54:38 PM EDT
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He may not have won the lawsuit.....but he unlocked the achievement! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 4/7/2019 7:56:41 PM EDT
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ohh he went past full retard and went straight to full potato Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Look Marion, we did our best. It's not over yet. Next time y'all meet for the second amendment coalition, make sure you take adequate minutes. BRN v. Nolo- Went Full Potato |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 7:57:08 PM EDT
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I am both heartbroken and in full compliance with the rule. My heartfelt thanks go out to NoloContendere, SuperMoose, wolfwood, Joshua Prince, and every other member of the legal team, as well as everyone that has supported the fight. The hours put in toward this fight are countless. The cost of this fight, on a personal level, has been great, and the debt owed is greater. Mark LaRue will always have my respect and admiration, but not just for how much money he has raised for this and other pro 2A fights. No, that is too easy - lesser men have raised as much or more money for far less just causes. Mark LaRue changed his position on bump stocks, and for a man to publicly change his position is rare. His change of heart was not because he suddenly saw them as a tactical weapons platform, but he recognized the underlying legal issues and potential for cascading failure to more precious things, and when he saw the potential for collateral damage he was man enough not only to change, but to become the largest fundraiser for the fight. It is so rare for a successful and prideful man to change his position on something so polarizing, and to do so in such bold fashion, that it is both astounding and awe inspiring. I'm spent. The fight is now academic to me. Better men than I may still have skin in the game, but after a year and half I'm all out of hope or answers. |
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Posted: 4/7/2019 9:06:16 PM EDT
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With all due respect Sir, I have no praise for you based on performance. You are probably a great guy, but as far as praise goes.................. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Look Marion, we did our best. It’s not over yet. Next time y’all meet for the second amendment coalition, make sure you take adequate minutes. |
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Posted: 4/8/2019 7:27:03 AM EDT
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At this point I wouldn't be surprised to learn that BRN-180 's post is part of a stategic effort to demoralize the opposition to progressive civil disarmament. A "kick them while they're down" strike.
It's a rigged game as anyone can see through both this case and the earlier machine gun cases. Justice has become blind to facts, history, and logic, which Nolo et al have been busting their ass to bring to the fight. It would be ominous enough itself if it weren't accompanied by random voices popping up with sketchy join dates and post counts to throw in deceptive, disinformative, or demotivational content (like this or the comment in another thread where a newby joined to inject lies about the bcg and buffer spring creating an automatic forward motion of the upper that doesn't exist). The ongoing work of Nolo et al has been the appropriate attempt to petition and seek redress for grievances that a good people should pursue when the actions and the trajectory of the state has been toward errosion and suppression of their essential civil liberties. They should be applauded for their exemplary efforts to perform this work. |
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Posted: 4/8/2019 8:35:23 AM EDT
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Look Marion, we did our best. It’s not over yet. Next time y’all meet for the second amendment coalition, make sure you take adequate minutes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All said and done the cases were a complete FAILURE. If you want to praise the effort then so be it. The end result is all that matters. WTF, the case for confiscation without compensation even failed. Sorry, but it was a failure at every turn. There comes a point when just trying isn't good enough. Loss after Loss after Loss. 
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Posted: 4/8/2019 8:49:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With all due respect Sir, I have no praise for you based on performance. You are probably a great guy, but as far as praise goes.................. |
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Posted: 4/8/2019 8:55:46 AM EDT
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Did you donate to their efforts? Did you support them? I'm guess all you did is sit back and do nothing They did more than you did...or ever will... all I have seen from you is criticism of people who fought for our rights........ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All said and done the cases were a complete FAILURE. If you want to praise the effort then so be it. The end result is all that matters. WTF, the case for confiscation without compensation even failed. Sorry, but it was a failure at every turn. They did more than you did...or ever will... all I have seen from you is criticism of people who fought for our rights........ |
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Posted: 4/8/2019 8:58:47 AM EDT
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You won't be here long. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Look Marion, we did our best. It's not over yet. Next time y'all meet for the second amendment coalition, make sure you take adequate minutes. |
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Posted: 4/8/2019 9:15:18 AM EDT
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Whether we agree or like what someone says is a fundamental idea of the US. If we begin kicking people out not for COC violations, instead because they criticized one who should not be criticized. Sounds like "some animals are more equal than others". Or exactly what does occur at the DU. Many of us discovered that while trolling them.
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Posted: 4/8/2019 9:24:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: With all due respect Sir, I have no praise for you based on performance. You are probably a great guy, but as far as praise goes.................. 
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Posted: 4/8/2019 9:36:26 AM EDT
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I’ll gladly take a time-out for this, Nola is a friend and a patriot, you’re a shit talking 19er that’s probably a worthless retread. Bugger off little boy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: With all due respect Sir, I have no praise for you based on performance. You are probably a great guy, but as far as praise goes.................. What he said. |
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Posted: 4/8/2019 9:38:40 AM EDT
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I'm with you Men, 3 makes a crowd.
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Posted: 4/8/2019 9:41:59 AM EDT
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Not worth it guys. While he sits and types, I’m catching a plane to DC for court. But hey, it’s not a real fight.
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Posted: 4/8/2019 9:45:28 AM EDT
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No one here fought for me. Some people may have argued, but trust me no one fought. Hell i can't recall the last war that was fought for the USA. We just sent how much money, or "donations" to make you happy, down south? Trace Adkins is still raising money for wounded warrior project because the us gov and Trump do not care about vets. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All said and done the cases were a complete FAILURE. If you want to praise the effort then so be it. The end result is all that matters. WTF, the case for confiscation without compensation even failed. Sorry, but it was a failure at every turn. They did more than you did...or ever will... all I have seen from you is criticism of people who fought for our rights........ Look how much goes to vets vs how much goes to Executive pay.....it's disgusting. They are about the worst .org to donate to for helping vets...... |
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Posted: 4/8/2019 9:46:10 AM EDT
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Not worth it guys. While he sits and types, I'm catching a plane to DC for court. But hey, it's not a real fight. |
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Posted: 4/8/2019 9:51:44 AM EDT
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Thanks for everything you do for us Nolo (and others), it is very much appreciated by well over 99.9999% of gun owners!
Ignore the haters and general asshats |
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Posted: 4/8/2019 10:05:04 AM EDT
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And you think Wounded Warrior Project does????? Look how much goes to vets vs how much goes to Executive pay.....it's disgusting. They are about the worst .org to donate to for helping vets...... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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All said and done the cases were a complete FAILURE. If you want to praise the effort then so be it. The end result is all that matters. WTF, the case for confiscation without compensation even failed. Sorry, but it was a failure at every turn. They did more than you did...or ever will... all I have seen from you is criticism of people who fought for our rights........ Look how much goes to vets vs how much goes to Executive pay.....it's disgusting. They are about the worst .org to donate to for helping vets...... It is IMHO that any attempt to win anything while playing in their courts is a waste of time. Like the final call in the playoffs this year. No matter how wrong it is we are told to accept it. I have tried at the state level. I have picketted in front of Fl rep tom lees office, wrote, called, and all I can get is a phone call from him. Never a sit down meeting. They do not care about us. Either party. When the MSD bill was going on here in Fl I tried to participate with @miami_jbt, but he never once responded to me. I offered in threads, and by IM. So I began a one man fight against lee and galvano. |
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