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Posted: 2/8/2018 10:36:29 PM EDT
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14001 OWNAGE!
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Posted: 2/17/2018 12:04:08 AM EDT
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So what date in the Spring, will they start back on phase II of the spillway rebuild?
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Posted: 2/17/2018 3:18:13 AM EDT
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There were somewhat similar issues after Katrina. Buildings were destroyed, but were also completely substandard to begin with. The government would only rebuild to original, but original could never be built again since it was completely inadequate. Sort of like wrecking your 30 year old beater car and expecting to be reimbursed with a completely new car. It was inadequate to begin with, you didn't take care of it, let it go to shit, and now expect us to get you a new one? Sorry, ain't gonna' happen. Problem with that is inspections noting faulty.. everything.. called for them to do a rebuild LONG before it got to the "nearly wipe out a city and destroy the 'never use unless absolute last resort' emergency spillway (NOT Auxillary Spillway, can't believe they tried to push that crap). The cynical side of says they wanted to make sure the Emergency Spillway was employed to Guarantee federal funds for repair, and the fact that it nearly failed was just a cherry on top to .gov Brown. I'd wager the lives endangered didn't cost him one minute of sleep. |
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Posted: 2/21/2018 1:55:03 PM EDT
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 Oroville Spillways Phase 2 Update Mid-February 2018 |
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Posted: 2/24/2018 8:41:23 PM EDT
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 Oroville Spillways Phase 2 Update February 20, 2018 |
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Posted: 2/24/2018 11:09:37 PM EDT
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 Oroville 22 Feb 2018 Update |
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Posted: 3/2/2018 9:04:19 PM EDT
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Cal DWR has redesigned their web site. Anyone have a link on the new web page for updates and videos?
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Posted: 3/6/2018 5:38:23 PM EDT
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they're starting the RCC at the secant cutoff wall
http://www.parks.ca.gov/live/lakeorovillesra_emergency_spillway |
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Posted: 3/6/2018 6:26:47 PM EDT
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Thanks.
Looks like the OP, ProfRyan is gone for good. He left an Awesome Thread. 
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Posted: 3/6/2018 9:11:21 PM EDT
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Wrong tab.
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Posted: 3/8/2018 1:51:36 PM EDT
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they're starting the RCC at the secant cutoff wall http://www.parks.ca.gov/live/lakeorovillesra_emergency_spillway Looks like the forecast is calling for more rain over the weekend and into next week. |
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Posted: 3/9/2018 5:32:29 PM EDT
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 Oroville Spillways Phase 2 Update Late February 2018 |
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Posted: 3/9/2018 5:45:28 PM EDT
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Not having a sub sucks. I missed this thread. I missed Juan. I missed this damn dam.
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Posted: 3/9/2018 7:41:36 PM EDT
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they're starting the RCC at the secant cutoff wall http://www.parks.ca.gov/live/lakeorovillesra_emergency_spillway 
I'm troubled by the fact they used 'incompetent rock' to make their concrete as well, but as long as it was already fractured and not smooth, shouldn't be an issue.
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Posted: 3/9/2018 9:59:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm amazed that they've already used all the rock piles that was washed out/dredged and need to haul more in.
I'm troubled by the fact they used 'incompetent rock' to make their concrete as well, but as long as it was already fractured and not smooth, shouldn't be an issue. |
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Posted: 3/10/2018 9:48:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryJuan gives a much better explanation of the current sequence of events. |
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Posted: 3/10/2018 9:58:28 PM EDT
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They have moved an insane amount of dirt and rock.
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Posted: 3/10/2018 10:22:22 PM EDT
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Kind of hard to follow this video; its too disjointed. There is little to no overall perspective of general progress. What are they trying to accomplish below the dentils on the main spillway? Juan gives a much better explanation of the current sequence of events. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Kind of hard to follow this video; its too disjointed. There is little to no overall perspective of general progress. What are they trying to accomplish below the dentils on the main spillway? Juan gives a much better explanation of the current sequence of events. They are reinforcing the base of the spillway, and adding a solid outflow ramp out into the river and maybe a flow diversion system to reduce riverbed cutting/burying when spillway is in use. |
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Posted: 3/11/2018 4:25:32 PM EDT
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They are getting to 'competent rock' below the dragon's teeth and building a smooth ramp there, as the rock below the teeth was eroding and nearly undercutting on left side (viewed from river). They are leaving the beat up/scarred Dragon's Teeth for a reminder of how bad things can go, the last I heard. Saving that memento is pretty cool, at least. They are reinforcing the base of the spillway, and adding a solid outflow ramp out into the river and maybe a flow diversion system to reduce riverbed cutting/burying when spillway is in use. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Kind of hard to follow this video; its too disjointed. There is little to no overall perspective of general progress. What are they trying to accomplish below the dentils on the main spillway? Juan gives a much better explanation of the current sequence of events. They are reinforcing the base of the spillway, and adding a solid outflow ramp out into the river and maybe a flow diversion system to reduce riverbed cutting/burying when spillway is in use. |
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Posted: 3/13/2018 7:13:34 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/13/2018 4:38:15 PM EDT
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 Oroville Spillways Phase 2 Update Early March 2018 |
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Posted: 3/14/2018 9:41:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/15/2018 7:16:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/17/2018 8:50:03 PM EDT
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 Oroville Update! 12-16 March 2018 + Crosswind Landing |
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Posted: 3/17/2018 10:06:30 PM EDT
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Looks like a good bit of water standing on the RCC with a nice convective build up in the background
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Posted: 3/18/2018 10:18:29 AM EDT
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Is it just me or does anyone else think it would be a blast to go 4-wheeling around that site?
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Posted: 3/18/2018 12:03:55 PM EDT
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Is it just me or does anyone else think it would be a blast to go 4-wheeling around that site? |
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Posted: 3/18/2018 1:24:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's probably illegal to disturb the dirt in CA. Only approved roads, otherwise you may run over some nearly extinct salamander or something. 
California is illegal to possess in California.
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Posted: 3/21/2018 1:47:38 PM EDT
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 Oroville Spillways Phase 2 Update Mid-March 2018 |
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Posted: 3/21/2018 1:50:33 PM EDT
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This was the thread where I found out the State of California itself contains materials known to the State of California to cause cancer. It's made of serpentine.
California is illegal to possess in California. |
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Posted: 3/22/2018 6:31:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/28/2018 2:08:57 PM EDT
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Lake is up to 786 feet, up 50 feet in the past 2 weeks.
How's the winter/snowmelt looking there on the gorund? |
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Posted: 3/28/2018 11:12:38 PM EDT
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I thought this was a neat video. I never thought about all the trees that got removed.
 Wolfpack Wood Recycling: From Crisis to Clean-up at the Oroville Dam (Morbark Owner) |
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Posted: 3/30/2018 4:28:36 PM EDT
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I don't know when these were put up on Google Earth, but I'm interested to see an updated sat. shot with all the work they've completed.
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Posted: 3/30/2018 4:43:03 PM EDT
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I don't know when these were put up on Google Earth, but I'm interested to see an updated sat. shot with all the work they've completed. https://i.imgur.com/2QOgsYz.png" target="_blank">https://i.imgur.com/2QOgsYz.png https://i.imgur.com/QnZaiqr.png https://i.imgur.com/ee2PJSz.png https://i.imgur.com/WDZG4m1.png |
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Posted: 4/4/2018 3:54:34 PM EDT
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 Oroville Spillways Phase 2 Update Late March 2018 |
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Posted: 4/4/2018 6:36:04 PM EDT
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KFBK Radio in Sacto reported this afternoon that the incoming Pineapple Express may get the water up onto the spillway
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Posted: 4/4/2018 7:27:25 PM EDT
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KFBK Radio in Sacto reported this afternoon that the incoming Pineapple Express may get the water up onto the spillway |
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Posted: 4/4/2018 7:29:56 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/5/2018 3:14:16 PM EDT
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Gonna be the thread to watch again this weekend
Hopefully no water flows under that new RCC |
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Posted: 4/5/2018 3:35:30 PM EDT
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Isn't the max level 900 feet or so?
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Posted: 4/5/2018 3:43:10 PM EDT
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New video from Juan.
 Oroville Update 4 April 18 "The Calm Before the Storm" |
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Posted: 4/5/2018 5:51:39 PM EDT
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Isn't the max level 900 feet or so? They should be running the power house and river valve outlets all out, the water shouldn't have risen close to 800 to keep the run-up to the spillway gates dry. That would allow them to pave it and work on the spillway gates immediately so they could drain it faster without worries of scouring/cavitating the dirt lead in cut. Did fine all winter, but now it's going to get wet, making them dry it out for a month before they can work on it. Sadly, they ALWAYS save the water, It's a flood control dam, not a storage dam, but it's being treated like a storage dam, which is how this whole thing started, they don't learn. 
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Posted: 4/5/2018 5:58:35 PM EDT
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Gotcha.
I should have remembered that, followed this since page 1, day 1. |
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Posted: 4/5/2018 5:59:52 PM EDT
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813 is where it will touch the normal spillway gates. 900.5 is the top of the emergency/never use spillway, NOT the "auxillary spillway". You screwed up horribly if water goes over the emergency spillway on an earthen dam. They should be running the power house and river valve outlets all out, the water shouldn't have risen close to 800 to keep the run-up to the spillway gates dry. That would allow them to pave it and work on the spillway gates immediately so they could drain it faster without worries of scouring/cavitating the dirt lead in cut. Did fine all winter, but now it's going to get wet, making them dry it out for a month before they can work on it. Sadly, they ALWAYS save the water, It's a flood control dam, not a storage dam, but it's being treated like a storage dam, which is how this whole thing started, they don't learn. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Isn't the max level 900 feet or so? They should be running the power house and river valve outlets all out, the water shouldn't have risen close to 800 to keep the run-up to the spillway gates dry. That would allow them to pave it and work on the spillway gates immediately so they could drain it faster without worries of scouring/cavitating the dirt lead in cut. Did fine all winter, but now it's going to get wet, making them dry it out for a month before they can work on it. Sadly, they ALWAYS save the water, It's a flood control dam, not a storage dam, but it's being treated like a storage dam, which is how this whole thing started, they don't learn. |
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Posted: 4/5/2018 8:50:36 PM EDT
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Thats what Juan said adding that one of the turbines is out the others running at full capacity right now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Isn't the max level 900 feet or so? They should be running the power house and river valve outlets all out, the water shouldn't have risen close to 800 to keep the run-up to the spillway gates dry. That would allow them to pave it and work on the spillway gates immediately so they could drain it faster without worries of scouring/cavitating the dirt lead in cut. Did fine all winter, but now it's going to get wet, making them dry it out for a month before they can work on it. Sadly, they ALWAYS save the water, It's a flood control dam, not a storage dam, but it's being treated like a storage dam, which is how this whole thing started, they don't learn. The other thing I find odd is they don't need rely/on the power, even in a very high population density state, where are they getting power from? They only run the oroville and other dam turbines if the water is too high, what's supplying the power when the water isn't? |
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Posted: 4/5/2018 8:50:53 PM EDT
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Zombie 500 error reposted.
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Posted: 4/5/2018 8:58:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just watched the video. They didn't put the power plant to full and open the RVOS until Apr 3. They should have been keeping it around 750 that whole time since it's not fully functional. The good news from that vid is they did get a new water management plan to treat 830 ft as "completely full" instead of 875 ft. That alone should negate the need for the spillway entirely now that the RVOS is operational, and when all turbines are running. The other thing I find odd is they don't need rely/on the power, even in a very high population density state, where are they getting power from? They only run the oroville and other dam turbines if the water is too high, what's supplying the power when the water isn't? |
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Posted: 4/5/2018 9:10:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just watched the video. They didn't put the power plant to full and open the RVOS until Apr 3. They should have been keeping it around 750 that whole time since it's not fully functional. The good news from that vid is they did get a new water management plan to treat 830 ft as "completely full" instead of 875 ft. That alone should negate the need for the spillway entirely now that the RVOS is operational, and when all turbines are running. The other thing I find odd is they don't need rely/on the power, even in a very high population density state, where are they getting power from? They only run the oroville and other dam turbines if the water is too high, what's supplying the power when the water isn't? |
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Posted: 4/5/2018 9:56:47 PM EDT
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I didn't think that water would come up through the new stuff.
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