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Posted: 12/22/2009 3:10:14 AM EDT

[#1]

Oh hell, all this talk from people that they'll do this or that.

Bull cookies, if anything along those revolutionary lines occurs it will, as usual, come from someone living in Michigan.

Posted: 12/22/2009 3:16:26 AM EDT

[#2]

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If Texas seceded I would be there in a heart beat. No lies, pack my shit and be there

Same here.

Posted: 12/22/2009 3:18:11 AM EDT

[#3]

I'd happily go visit ole Dad in El Paso (he's buried at Ft. Bliss), seeing as I doubt my new state of residence would ever secede.

I wonder if I could do a property swap with an Austin Liberal clamoring for a way out?

Posted: 12/22/2009 3:20:17 AM EDT

[#4]

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100% Looney Tunes!

Well that seals the deal. With Dave's disapproval you can break-away confidently, knowing you did the right thing.

One could live a good, moral life by living by that principal

Posted: 12/22/2009 3:27:33 AM EDT

[#5]

He lost me when he said Texas had the right to secede in our annexation agreement. Totally false.

Other than that I agree with the sentiment. But I realize that the contest for freedom more than most can or are willing to bear.

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Posted: 12/22/2009 3:29:27 AM EDT

[#6]

If I have to make a stand let it be here.

Posted: 12/22/2009 3:40:23 AM EDT

[#7]

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I really wouldn't mind Texas seceding.

But for it to work right New Mexico, Colorado, Oklahoma, Nebraska, and Kansas would need to come as well.

This would ensure abundant water, natural gas, grain, and textile production to go along with Texas' technical-manufaturing- cattle industries, and sea ports.

We could send all of the libtards in the region to Detroit, where the real estate prices are cheap and the political structure is right up their alley.

You forgot Wyoming.
Natural gas there would keep them energy independent for the next 100 years.

Posted: 12/22/2009 3:43:06 AM EDT

[#8]

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So...how many federal tax $$$ does Texas take in these days?

About 1/5 as much as is payed by the people living there.

Posted: 12/22/2009 3:46:16 AM EDT

[#9]

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I really wouldn't mind Texas seceding.

But for it to work right New Mexico, Colorado, Oklahoma, Nebraska, and Kansas would need to come as well.

This would ensure abundant water, natural gas, grain, and textile production to go along with Texas' technical-manufaturing- cattle industries, and sea ports.

We could send all of the libtards in the region to Detroit, where the real estate prices are cheap and the political structure is right up their alley.

You forgot Wyoming.
Natural gas there would keep them energy independent for the next 100 years.

Don't forget our Coal, Oil, and wind energy production as well.

Posted: 12/22/2009 3:51:46 AM EDT

[#10]

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So...how many federal tax $$$ does Texas take in these days?

About 1/5 as much as is payed by the people living there.

Hell, Michigan gets far less than Texas and Wyoming in federal spending versus the taxes we pay.

I'm just sayin'.

Posted: 12/22/2009 4:17:12 AM EDT

[#11]

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I really wouldn't mind Texas seceding.

But for it to work right New Mexico, Colorado, Oklahoma, Nebraska, and Kansas would need to come as well.

This would ensure abundant water, natural gas, grain, and textile production to go along with Texas' technical-manufaturing- cattle industries, and sea ports.

We could send all of the libtards in the region to Detroit, where the real estate prices are cheap and the political structure is right up their alley.

You forgot Wyoming.
Natural gas there would keep them energy independent for the next 100 years.

Don't forget our Coal, Oil, and wind energy production as well.

Don't remind me of the wind.
I drive a rig w/ a box.

Posted: 12/22/2009 4:26:07 AM EDT

[#12]

Randomly ask Oklahomans if they would llike their state to bail too.

Posted: 12/22/2009 4:28:59 AM EDT

[#13]

Yet another Texas thread........in...

Posted: 12/22/2009 4:39:04 AM EDT

[#14]

all states have the right to break off from the union if they feel they aren't being represented fairly it's about time everyone stood up for themselves instead of being a mindless slave to the goverment.

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:01:16 AM EDT

[#15]

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100% Looney Tunes!

Well that seals the deal. With Dave's disapproval you can break-away confidently, knowing you did the right thing.

In a world where the unraveling of the US, and the dooming of both the residents of TX, and the rest of the union to destruction is a 'good thing'...

See my original comment....

Nothing good can come of an attempt to break up the union - regardless of the success or failure of said attempt...

News flash, the union is already being destroyed... Christmas eve is a whopper.

Just say Texas did secede, what would the population explosion be like? I'd certainly be headed there. Hope there are enough IT jobs.

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:02:53 AM EDT

[#16]

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God bless Texas

except Austin

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:04:27 AM EDT

[#17]

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Because secessions always go so well.

I seem to recall one that went pretty well in the 18th century.

And the Texas secession from Mexico was successful, too.

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:09:22 AM EDT

[#18]

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100% Looney Tunes!

Well that seals the deal. With Dave's disapproval you can break-away confidently, knowing you did the right thing.

One could live a good, moral life by living by that principal

Sad but true.

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:13:44 AM EDT

[#19]

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Because secessions always go so well.

OOOOH the pretentious sarcasm meter is off the charts. Good for you but I think you forgot

at the end of your post.

You seem to have a very limited recollection of history. There are far more examples of successful secession than of failed attempts.

Oh and as far as the OP: tldr

I'd like to see some of these example of successful secession and to see how well they fit the current world situation.

I'm sure you realize the reality that the US is in danger of becomingirrelevant on the world stage and turning into a bulkanized collectionof two or more countries will only jump this process ahead decades.

Can't wait for a china ruled world? Succession is the fastest way there.

Succession would have ruined us 145 years ago, and it will ruin us now.

Things are different than they were then. China is going to rule the world anyway. As for secession, I'd be ok with Ohio and Michigan going to Canada. In the long run, we'll probably come out ahead in terms of gun rights. Yes, we'll be a socialist country, but at least we won't have a president that runs around the world bashing us.

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:16:29 AM EDT

[#20]

Texas already doesn't want anyone from the rest of the nation as a state so I kinda doubt that would change much with Texas as a nation.

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:17:30 AM EDT

[#21]

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Because secessions always go so well.

war of northern agression 2. they just want their tax money.

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:19:06 AM EDT

[#22]

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Because secessions always go so well.

That doesn't mean it isn't right and legal.

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:37:27 AM EDT

[#23]

I thought Texas Secession threads were Fridays? I need a copy of the schedule.

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:40:24 AM EDT

[#24]

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I thought Texas Secession threads were Fridays? I need a copy of the schedule.

This Friday is a holiday. We had to bump it up. The weekly Thursday Evolution vs. Creationism is going to be tomorrow night due to this Thursday also being a holiday.

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:42:14 AM EDT

[#25]

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God bless Texas

except Austin

Now, now... No need to paint with such a large brush.

D(SouthAustin)Peacher

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:44:34 AM EDT

[#26]

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I will say again...as I do in all secession threads...if secession occurs then we would need to secure all the military bases to prevent all the equipment from being moved out so that we would have the means to defend ourselves with more than just personally owned rifles, pistols, and shotguns.

LOL that worked so well last time.

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:46:20 AM EDT

[#27]

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So...how many federal tax $$$ does Texas take in these days?

Believe the bullshit. We'll be fine. Hello, oil, nat gas. WE have our own electrical grid.

And we have no problem cutting welfare payments to the lazy, when the shtf.

TXL

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:48:10 AM EDT

[#28]

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Still too many fed $$$ worth. Face it, until a state has the balls to completely refuse federal funding, no one's going to secede anytime soon. Money ties this union together far more than any ideology can ever hope break.

Genius, you say when we quit taking fed money. For the record, we'd quit sending money as well, and we'd be a net positive.

TXL

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:49:35 AM EDT

[#29]

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Because secessions always go so well.

war of northern agression 2. they just want their tax money.

I wonder, if TX wanted to leave the union, and offered up enough money to buy there way out, if the democrats would just let them? If done right I bet TX and a few other red states the libs have no hope of ever carrying could leave in peace if they made the right offer. It would let the democrats cement control over the rest of the county, and give them some cash they could spend on stupid bullshit.

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:49:57 AM EDT

[#30]

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Still too many fed $$$ worth. Face it, until a state has the balls to completely refuse federal funding, no one's going to secede anytime soon. Money ties this union together far more than any ideology can ever hope break.

Did you not see what we posted? If we remove ourself from the US, stop paying federal taxes, and start paying what we were paying in fed tax, to the state, we will be better off than we are now.

As long as you can convince other states to keep selling y'all electricity and freshwater since you don't have enough.

I'm willing to bet QUITE A FEW PAYCHECKS that you are wrong about the electricity thing. How much are you willing to bet on that?

Economics will allow some folks to bring in power from oklahoma, as an arbitrage, but there is no need at all to bring in power. It's actually the free electrical market here in TX that allows it to happen.

TXL

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:51:40 AM EDT

[#31]

Well leave already!

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:51:49 AM EDT

[#32]

These threads show the seed is already planted for eventual secession movements. If something is said enough times it becomes "no big deal". Follow that with talk of secession becomes hip and cool. Break up of the union is inevitable somewhere.It will be similar to the philosophy of tell a lie enough and it becomes truth. Most Americans don't define reality themselves and just follow what's "cool".

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:52:42 AM EDT

[#33]

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I will say again...as I do in all secession threads...if secession occurs then we would need to secure all the military bases to prevent all the equipment from being moved out so that we would have the means to defend ourselves with more than just personally owned rifles, pistols, and shotguns.

LOL that worked so well last time.

It worked pretty good the first time.
2 outta 3 wouldn't be bad.

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:53:04 AM EDT

[#34]

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So...how many federal tax $$$ does Texas take in these days?

Believe the bullshit. We'll be fine. Hello, oil, nat gas. WE have our own electrical grid.

And we have no problem cutting welfare payments to the lazy, when the shtf.

TXL

If you did it now, I'd probably move there. Texas seems like a nice place. Very aggressive driving, but I suppose its something you adjust to. But, Texas isn't as hardcore right as you guys like to make it sound. My sister in law is a public school teacher in Houston. Some of the crap that people get away with makes me think "ya'll" are no better than any other state. Who's BRILLIANT idea was it to bring in all the tangos post-Katrina?

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:55:49 AM EDT

[#35]

Why is it that the States that want to secede are down south? I HATE the heat! I sweat like it's my job!

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:57:25 AM EDT

[#36]

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So...how many federal tax $$$ does Texas take in these days?

Believe the bullshit. We'll be fine. Hello, oil, nat gas. WE have our own electrical grid.

And we have no problem cutting welfare payments to the lazy, when the shtf.

TXL

If you did it now, I'd probably move there. Texas seems like a nice place. Very aggressive driving, but I suppose its something you adjust to. But, Texas isn't as hardcore right as you guys like to make it sound. My sister in law is a public school teacher in Houston. Some of the crap that people get away with makes me think "ya'll" are no better than any other state. Who's BRILLIANT idea was it to bring in all the tangos post-Katrina?

Houstons socialist mayor.

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:58:23 AM EDT

[#37]

I would like to add: Dear California, please Secede, and stay there.

Posted: 12/22/2009 5:59:35 AM EDT

[#38]

Posted: 12/22/2009 6:00:48 AM EDT

[#39]

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Still too many fed $$$ worth. Face it, until a state has the balls to completely refuse federal funding, no one's going to secede anytime soon. Money ties this union together far more than any ideology can ever hope break.

Did you not see what we posted? If we remove ourself from the US, stop paying federal taxes, and start paying what we were paying in fed tax, to the state, we will be better off than we are now.

As long as you can convince other states to keep selling y'all electricity and freshwater since you don't have enough.

I'm willing to bet QUITE A FEW PAYCHECKS that you are wrong about the electricity thing. How much are you willing to bet on that?

Economics will allow some folks to bring in power from oklahoma, as an arbitrage, but there is no need at all to bring in power. It's actually the free electrical market here in TX that allows it to happen.

TXL

See my previous post to the other guy where a Texas state website says you have a net IMPORT of electricity. Water? Not enough. Your AG industry is so heavily geared towards production of feed for cattle, that it's sorely lacking in the human consumables area. Texas is a great state, but it can't do it on it's own right now.

Posted: 12/22/2009 6:02:42 AM EDT

[#40]

Y'all don't think Texas would go this alone do you? Oklahoma carried McCain to a county. Not one blue county last election.

We have plenty of oil, natural gas as well as wheat, beef, etc. We also have a couple of air bases. If Kansas were to join in, there would be even more military infrastructure (Ft. Riley).

Posted: 12/22/2009 6:05:06 AM EDT

[#41]

Quoted:

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Still too many fed $$$ worth. Face it, until a state has the balls to completely refuse federal funding, no one's going to secede anytime soon. Money ties this union together far more than any ideology can ever hope break.

Did you not see what we posted? If we remove ourself from the US, stop paying federal taxes, and start paying what we were paying in fed tax, to the state, we will be better off than we are now.

As long as you can convince other states to keep selling y'all electricity and freshwater since you don't have enough.

I'm willing to bet QUITE A FEW PAYCHECKS that you are wrong about the electricity thing. How much are you willing to bet on that?

Economics will allow some folks to bring in power from oklahoma, as an arbitrage, but there is no need at all to bring in power. It's actually the free electrical market here in TX that allows it to happen.

TXL

See my previous post to the other guy where a Texas state website says you have a net IMPORT of electricity. Water? Not enough. Your AG industry is so heavily geared towards production of feed for cattle, that it's sorely lacking in the human consumables area. Texas is a great state, but it can't do it on it's own right now.

Pssst, Texas. Wanna buy some wheat?

Posted: 12/22/2009 6:07:36 AM EDT

[#42]

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Y'all don't think Texas would go this alone do you? Oklahoma carried McCain to a county. Not one blue county last election.

We have plenty of oil, natural gas as well as wheat, beef, etc. We also have a couple of air bases. If Kansas were to join in, there would be even more military infrastructure (Ft. Riley).

Arkansas, Oklahoma, Texas, and Louisiana would give a good balance of power, ag, natural resources, chemcial, bio, and nuclear weapons. Good balance of other weapons, the best medical resources in the world and plenty of port space. Get rid of the non hackers in towns like Pine Bluff, Houston, New Orleans, etc etc and we'd be cookin with gas.

Posted: 12/22/2009 6:07:48 AM EDT

[#43]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Still too many fed $$$ worth. Face it, until a state has the balls to completely refuse federal funding, no one's going to secede anytime soon. Money ties this union together far more than any ideology can ever hope break.

Did you not see what we posted? If we remove ourself from the US, stop paying federal taxes, and start paying what we were paying in fed tax, to the state, we will be better off than we are now.

As long as you can convince other states to keep selling y'all electricity and freshwater since you don't have enough.

I'm willing to bet QUITE A FEW PAYCHECKS that you are wrong about the electricity thing. How much are you willing to bet on that?

Economics will allow some folks to bring in power from oklahoma, as an arbitrage, but there is no need at all to bring in power. It's actually the free electrical market here in TX that allows it to happen.

TXL

See my previous post to the other guy where a Texas state website says you have a net IMPORT of electricity. Water? Not enough. Your AG industry is so heavily geared towards production of feed for cattle, that it's sorely lacking in the human consumables area. Texas is a great state, but it can't do it on it's own right now.

We'd likely have already broken ground on the two newest nuclear power plants in the nation, except for the several YEARS of paperwork the companies were required to file with the Feds, first.

Posted: 12/22/2009 6:09:30 AM EDT

[#44]

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Change is comming. What? I don't know, but I'd rather face it here.

Amen, Brother

Posted: 12/22/2009 6:11:55 AM EDT

[#45]

We don't need to secede. We just need to take charge.

Rick Perry for President 2012!

Posted: 12/22/2009 6:12:47 AM EDT

[#46]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Still too many fed $$$ worth. Face it, until a state has the balls to completely refuse federal funding, no one's going to secede anytime soon. Money ties this union together far more than any ideology can ever hope break.

Did you not see what we posted? If we remove ourself from the US, stop paying federal taxes, and start paying what we were paying in fed tax, to the state, we will be better off than we are now.

As long as you can convince other states to keep selling y'all electricity and freshwater since you don't have enough.

I'm willing to bet QUITE A FEW PAYCHECKS that you are wrong about the electricity thing. How much are you willing to bet on that?

Economics will allow some folks to bring in power from oklahoma, as an arbitrage, but there is no need at all to bring in power. It's actually the free electrical market here in TX that allows it to happen.

TXL

See my previous post to the other guy where a Texas state website says you have a net IMPORT of electricity. Water? Not enough. Your AG industry is so heavily geared towards production of feed for cattle, that it's sorely lacking in the human consumables area. Texas is a great state, but it can't do it on it's own right now.

Once again, how much money are you willing to lose on this bet?

TXL

Posted: 12/22/2009 6:14:15 AM EDT

[#47]

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We'd likely have already broken ground on the two newest nuclear power plants in the nation, except for the several YEARS of paperwork the companies were required to file with the Feds, first.

We're dealing with the same shit. Our nuclear power plant is wanting to add a reactor and the .gov is having none of it. We're sitting on the same natural gas reserves as north texas. We have a lot of hydroelectric power, but we're still trying for more nuclear power.

Posted: 12/22/2009 6:14:58 AM EDT

[#48]

Quoted:

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Still too many fed $$$ worth. Face it, until a state has the balls to completely refuse federal funding, no one's going to secede anytime soon. Money ties this union together far more than any ideology can ever hope break.

Did you not see what we posted? If we remove ourself from the US, stop paying federal taxes, and start paying what we were paying in fed tax, to the state, we will be better off than we are now.

As long as you can convince other states to keep selling y'all electricity and freshwater since you don't have enough.

I'm willing to bet QUITE A FEW PAYCHECKS that you are wrong about the electricity thing. How much are you willing to bet on that?

Economics will allow some folks to bring in power from oklahoma, as an arbitrage, but there is no need at all to bring in power. It's actually the free electrical market here in TX that allows it to happen.

TXL

See my previous post to the other guy where a Texas state website says you have a net IMPORT of electricity. Water? Not enough. Your AG industry is so heavily geared towards production of feed for cattle, that it's sorely lacking in the human consumables area. Texas is a great state, but it can't do it on it's own right now.

Once again, how much money are you willing to lose on this bet?

TXL

Well, since my source is your government, and I don't trust the government, none

Posted: 12/22/2009 6:16:05 AM EDT

[#49]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Still too many fed $$$ worth. Face it, until a state has the balls to completely refuse federal funding, no one's going to secede anytime soon. Money ties this union together far more than any ideology can ever hope break.

Did you not see what we posted? If we remove ourself from the US, stop paying federal taxes, and start paying what we were paying in fed tax, to the state, we will be better off than we are now.

As long as you can convince other states to keep selling y'all electricity and freshwater since you don't have enough.

We're a net exporter of electricity and we have our own grid.

Posted: 12/22/2009 6:16:33 AM EDT

[#50]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Still too many fed $$$ worth. Face it, until a state has the balls to completely refuse federal funding, no one's going to secede anytime soon. Money ties this union together far more than any ideology can ever hope break.

Did you not see what we posted? If we remove ourself from the US, stop paying federal taxes, and start paying what we were paying in fed tax, to the state, we will be better off than we are now.

As long as you can convince other states to keep selling y'all electricity and freshwater since you don't have enough.

I'm willing to bet QUITE A FEW PAYCHECKS that you are wrong about the electricity thing. How much are you willing to bet on that?

Economics will allow some folks to bring in power from oklahoma, as an arbitrage, but there is no need at all to bring in power. It's actually the free electrical market here in TX that allows it to happen.

TXL

See my previous post to the other guy where a Texas state website says you have a net IMPORT of electricity. Water? Not enough. Your AG industry is so heavily geared towards production of feed for cattle, that it's sorely lacking in the human consumables area. Texas is a great state, but it can't do it on it's own right now.

Pssst, Texas. Wanna buy some wheat water?

Fixed

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