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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:20:32 AM EST
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Well, since my source is your government, and I don't trust the government, none  Now that's funny. True as well. And, wise decision. I really do have the inside scoop on this stuff. And not trusting the .gov. yeah, same page. TXL |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:21:24 AM EST
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Plus we are building wind farms like they are going put of style, and they are spinning like a retard on a tricycle.
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:23:02 AM EST
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Plus we are building wind farms like they are going put of style, and they are spinning like a retard on a tricycle. Guess where a lot of your windmills are made?  My boss is trying to get a contract to haul the blades.
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:23:28 AM EST
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Damn I love this state.
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:25:12 AM EST
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Quoted: Randomly ask Oklahomans if they would llike their state to bail too. Yea , Texans and Okies might fight amongst themselves , but I don't think they'd stand by if some outsider decided to pick on the other |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:25:26 AM EST
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:26:11 AM EST
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Let the record show that EXPCustom shat in this thread on page 2.
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:26:14 AM EST
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Well, since my source is your government, and I don't trust the government, none Now that's funny. True as well. And, wise decision. I really do have the inside scoop on this stuff. And not trusting the .gov. yeah, same page. TXL The damn state 'govs are to damn odd to trust either. Here we had Huckabee, a republican, who claimed to have been very progun. Never did a thing for us. Beebe, a democrat, gets elected, and is signing the hell out of good gun bills. 
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:27:00 AM EST
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Dear Texas - please don't. I wouldn't want to take up arms against you.
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:27:23 AM EST
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Plus we are building wind farms like they are going put of style, and they are spinning like a retard on a tricycle. Guess where a lot of your windmills are made? My boss is trying to get a contract to haul the blades.Iirc some are german, and we have a few ports :) |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:27:53 AM EST
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Quoted: I would like to add: Dear California, please Secede, and stay there. Wrong thread. This ones about Texas leaving. |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:28:03 AM EST
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Plus we are building wind farms like they are going put of style, and they are spinning like a retard on a tricycle. Guess where a lot of your windmills are made? My boss is trying to get a contract to haul the blades.Iirc some are german, and we have a few ports :) Most of em are coming out of Little Rock. |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:28:14 AM EST
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Quoted: I'd happily go visit ole Dad in El Paso (he's buried at Ft. Bliss), seeing as I doubt my new state of residence would ever secede. I wonder if I could do a property swap with an Austin Liberal clamoring for a way out? You might be on to something , we could start a liberal exchange program. We'll send a liberal to FL and yall send a Conservative |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:29:07 AM EST
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Dear Texas - please don't. I wouldn't want to take up arms against you. And why would you take up arms against someone wanting freedom and liberty? TXL? |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:29:08 AM EST
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nevermind
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:29:29 AM EST
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So...how many federal tax $$$ does Texas take in these days?  Don't recall the exact numbers, but Texas "takes in" a heck of lot less than we pay out. Long live the Republic of Texas! |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:30:00 AM EST
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Dear Texas - please don't. I wouldn't want to take up arms against you. But you would?
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:30:41 AM EST
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Here's the way I see it. This country is headed down the tubes in a big hurry. I really believe that Texas would have a chance as a Republic again. Would we need help?Maybe, maybe not, but we'll never know until we try. I say we do this. If it turns out we fall flat on our face, all get killed, starve, or die of thirst, who gives a shit. At least it will be interesting, and we wouldn't have to watch the country we used to be a part of go into complete ruin at the hands of the fucktards who are in charge now. You know that live free or die thing? It's getting close to that point. Actually, by some standards it's way past that point.
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:31:01 AM EST
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Well leave already!  The only thing that will happen sooner is watching Cali explode. lol Are you bothered by others wanting freedom and taking the steps to secure that freedom? TXL |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:32:31 AM EST
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Y'all don't think Texas would go this alone do you? Oklahoma carried McCain to a county. Not one blue county last election. We have plenty of oil, natural gas as well as wheat, beef, etc. We also have a couple of air bases. If Kansas were to join in, there would be even more military infrastructure (Ft. Riley). Get Kentucky, Tennessee, Missouri, and Arkansas to join and you're completely and easily viable. Besides, we've got good bourbon in Kentucky, not to mention assloads of coal. Maybe we could put all the coal powered plants right along the eastern border, with small smoke stacks. Those prevailing winds would be a bitch for DC with all the particulate matter... |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:33:47 AM EST
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Quoted: Dear Texas - please don't. I wouldn't want to take up arms against you. So you are of a mind that it is justified for a man to beat his wife if she grows tired of his abuse and leaves him? |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:35:49 AM EST
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It's interesting to say Obama would let us leave. I wonder if someone else would form a coup in order to depose Obama and attempt to save the Union anyway.
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So...how many federal tax $$$ does Texas take in these days? Who cares, as soon as the welfare stops, the leaches would leave. All the better! |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:38:36 AM EST
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I will say again...as I do in all secession threads...if secession occurs then we would need to secure all the military bases to prevent all the equipment from being moved out so that we would have the means to defend ourselves with more than just personally owned rifles, pistols, and shotguns. I'm pretty sure with all of texas' factories, machining facilities, chemical plants and engineers, ports, and manpower, we could build up a nice armory in no time flat. Hell, i'm sure Larue would be the standard issue rifle to our military. how sweet would that be? |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:42:36 AM EST
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I will say again...as I do in all secession threads...if secession occurs then we would need to secure all the military bases to prevent all the equipment from being moved out so that we would have the means to defend ourselves with more than just personally owned rifles, pistols, and shotguns. Sorry thats US Govt property and they will take it by force if it came to that. Not saying I would wish that but you don't mess with Texas and you sure as hell don't fuck with the US Military, they will ruin your day. |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:45:27 AM EST
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I will say again...as I do in all secession threads...if secession occurs then we would need to secure all the military bases to prevent all the equipment from being moved out so that we would have the means to defend ourselves with more than just personally owned rifles, pistols, and shotguns. Sorry thats US Govt property and they will take it by force if it came to that. Not saying I would wish that but you don't mess with Texas and you sure as hell don't fuck with the US Military, they will ruin your day. Come... and take it? |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:47:30 AM EST
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Quoted: Quoted: Well leave already! The only thing that will happen sooner is watching Cali explode. lol Are you bothered by others wanting freedom and taking the steps to secure that freedom? TXL No, I am not so go on and beat it! We got our Union and The Constitution, we dont need Texas. |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:48:28 AM EST
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Dear Texas - please don't. I wouldn't want to take up arms against you. And why would you take up arms against someone wanting freedom and liberty? TXL? Because secession is treason. Splitting up the US will lead to nothing but more blood shed across the nation, weaken our stance internationally, damage everyone economically, damage the value of the dollar, and a host of other consequences. So your quest for 'freedom and liberty' is going to adversely effect mine and millions of other American's 'freedom and liberty'. Your energies would be better spent elsewhere. |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:49:02 AM EST
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Dear Texas - please don't. I wouldn't want to take up arms against you. So you are of a mind that it is justified for a man to beat his wife if she grows tired of his abuse and leaves him? Horrible, inaccurate analogy. |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:49:28 AM EST
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I will say again...as I do in all secession threads...if secession occurs then we would need to secure all the military bases to prevent all the equipment from being moved out so that we would have the means to defend ourselves with more than just personally owned rifles, pistols, and shotguns. Sorry thats US Govt property and they will take it by force if it came to that. Not saying I would wish that but you don't mess with Texas and you sure as hell don't fuck with the US Military, they will ruin your day. If it comes to secession, they'll be coming for us anyways. So I wouldn't really have a problem with it. |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:49:30 AM EST
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Not sure how being a federal military reservist in a seceding state would go down...... Simple read the OATH you took when you signed up. It clearly states who you owe your allegiance too. Unless that oath meant noting to you ? Given that situation that would make Texas a domestic enemy of the US. (If it were not a mutual agreement) I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:49:36 AM EST
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Well leave already! The only thing that will happen sooner is watching Cali explode. lol Are you bothered by others wanting freedom and taking the steps to secure that freedom? TXL No, I am not so go on and beat it!
We got our Union and The Constitution, we dont need Texas.
You need plenty of other states though. Cali is another state that can't make it on it's own. Hell, y'all are steadily detroying yourselves. The idiots in your state will shut down a hydro electric power plant to save a minnow.
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:50:14 AM EST
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Who cares if we are a net importer or exporter of electricity? We have the power grid, and without government regulation, we could throw up some nuke plants PDQ. I'm pretty sure they're already working on a couple near Houston. Now we just have to find some fuel rods, or at least get the material and make our own rods(we already make nuclear weapons material in Amarillo, don't we?). Plus all the oil (and refining capacity) and natural gas.
My biggest concern would be water. |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:50:45 AM EST
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Well leave already! The only thing that will happen sooner is watching Cali explode. lol Are you bothered by others wanting freedom and taking the steps to secure that freedom? TXL No, I am not so go on and beat it! We got our Union and The Constitution, we dont need Texas. You sure seem to spend a lot of effort stroking your keyboard over a State you don't need... |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:52:11 AM EST
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In a world where the unraveling of the US, and the dooming of both the residents of TX, and the rest of the union to destruction is a 'good thing'... Oh yes. The residents of Texas would be DOOMED! You can't help trolling huh Kstanton? By the way how long could Texas survive with out protection of the US military. Not long pal , not long at all. |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:52:48 AM EST
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Dear Texas - please don't. I wouldn't want to take up arms against you. So you are of a mind that it is justified for a man to beat his wife if she grows tired of his abuse and leaves him? Horrible, inaccurate analogy. No, it's perfectly accurate. It's none of the other States' business if Texas leaves or stays. This isn't a death pact and the "perpetual union" bullshit was invented out of thin air by men who wanted to give the Federal government a life of it's own. |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:53:42 AM EST
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He lost me when he said Texas had the right to secede in our annexation agreement. Totally false. Other than that I agree with the sentiment. But I realize that the contest for freedom more than most can or are willing to bear. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile It always amazes me that misinformation still hangs around. |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:53:54 AM EST
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In a world where the unraveling of the US, and the dooming of both the residents of TX, and the rest of the union to destruction is a 'good thing'... Oh yes. The residents of Texas would be DOOMED! You can't help trolling huh Kstanton? By the way how long could Texas survive with out protection of the US military. Not long pal , not long at all. 
Where do you think most of the military personnel COME from? |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:54:24 AM EST
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Dear Texas - please don't. I wouldn't want to take up arms against you. So you are of a mind that it is justified for a man to beat his wife if she grows tired of his abuse and leaves him? Horrible, inaccurate analogy. The analogy is spot on. Abuse is abuse. It matters not if the abuser is an individual or the government. The abused have every right to take ALL measures to stop those that harm them. |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:55:25 AM EST
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I really wouldn't mind Texas seceding. But for it to work right New Mexico, Colorado, Oklahoma, Nebraska, and Kansas would need to come as well. This would ensure abundant water, natural gas, grain, and textile production to go along with Texas' technical-manufaturing- cattle industries, and sea ports. We could send all of the libtards in the region to Detroit, where the real estate prices are cheap and the political structure is right up their alley. You forgot Wyoming. Natural gas there would keep them energy independent for the next 100 years. Well, LA and MS would be nifty too, what with extra port access, rice crops, and the like. |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:55:34 AM EST
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Damn I love this state. See if you love it if the USA blocks exports to the country of Texas? |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:55:45 AM EST
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Dear Texas - please don't. I wouldn't want to take up arms against you. So you are of a mind that it is justified for a man to beat his wife if she grows tired of his abuse and leaves him? Horrible, inaccurate analogy. It's actually pretty fucking good. |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:55:58 AM EST
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Damn I love this state. See if you love it if the USA blocks exports to the country of Texas? I hope ya'll can do without refined petroleum products.
eta: I'm sure we can print up some new "Freeze the Yankee" bumper stickers if the need arises. |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:56:17 AM EST
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Randomly ask Oklahomans if they would llike their state to bail too. Yea , Texans and Okies might fight amongst themselves , but I don't think they'd stand by if some outsider decided to pick on the other kind of serious question: i understand many native americans (indians) were placed in oklahoma and tribes have contracts/treaties with the US gov. if oklahoma were to secede, wtf would happen with the tribes? trail of tears 2.0? except they'd have grey hound instead of walking in the winter with small pox blankets. |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:56:59 AM EST
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I thought Texas Secession threads were Fridays? I need a copy of the schedule. This Friday is a holiday. We had to bump it up. The weekly Thursday Evolution vs. Creationism is going to be tomorrow night due to this Thursday also being a holiday. Crap. I have two Christmas parties tomorrow night.................. |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:57:55 AM EST
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Randomly ask Oklahomans if they would llike their state to bail too. Yea , Texans and Okies might fight amongst themselves , but I don't think they'd stand by if some outsider decided to pick on the other kind of serious question: i understand many native americans (indians) were placed in oklahoma and tribes have contracts/treaties with the US gov. if oklahoma were to secede, wtf would happen with the tribes? trail of tears 2.0? except they'd have grey hound instead of walking in the winter with small pox blankets. They'd still own their land. They'd still be just as autonomous as they are now. |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:58:12 AM EST
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Damn I love this state. See if you love it if the USA blocks exports to the country of Texas? That would be an act of war. |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:58:24 AM EST
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In a world where the unraveling of the US, and the dooming of both the residents of TX, and the rest of the union to destruction is a 'good thing'... Oh yes. The residents of Texas would be DOOMED! You can't help trolling huh Kstanton? By the way how long could Texas survive with out protection of the US military. Not long pal , not long at all. Hmm, are you aware of the disproportionate amount of US military troops Texas, Oklahoma, and a few other states field? How many of those active duty troops do you honestly think will take up arms against their families when they know that the military they are currently serving in, is taking orders from an asshat administration that is expressly NOT following the Constitution? How exactly do you think this will all go down Yankee? It isn't a north v south dispute, but it will certainly be a states right's thing once again. The problem for the Federal side this time around is that most of the industrial infrastructure is firmly in the conservative states this time around, and that, inconveniently enough, is where most of the troops are from. |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:58:52 AM EST
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Well leave already! The only thing that will happen sooner is watching Cali explode. lol Are you bothered by others wanting freedom and taking the steps to secure that freedom? TXL When it could damage the US as a whole? You're fucking right, My allegence is to the United States Of America Anything else or first is fucking treason! |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:59:19 AM EST
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I really wouldn't mind Texas seceding. But for it to work right New Mexico, Colorado, Oklahoma, Nebraska, and Kansas would need to come as well. This would ensure abundant water, natural gas, grain, and textile production to go along with Texas' technical-manufaturing- cattle industries, and sea ports. We could send all of the libtards in the region to Detroit, where the real estate prices are cheap and the political structure is right up their alley. You forgot Wyoming. Natural gas there would keep them energy independent for the next 100 years. Well, LA and MS would be nifty too, what with extra port access, rice crops, and the like. and Cajuns.... I like Cajuns.... |
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Posted: 12/22/2009 5:59:20 AM EST
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Dear Texas - please don't. I wouldn't want to take up arms against you. So you are of a mind that it is justified for a man to beat his wife if she grows tired of his abuse and leaves him? BS analogy |
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