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Link Posted: 4/28/2019 6:30:35 PM EST
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Student loan forgiveness is a bad idea.  Holding crooked lending servicers accountable and mitigating their fuckery is not a bad idea.

People who didn't go through the loan nationalization fiasco in 2009/2010 have no clue how fucked up things are, or why.

Doesn't matter how much you want to pay off your loans - you can't really do fuckall when the Dems contract them over to servicing companies that don't have office space, phone numbers, a mailing address, or employees to service them.
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 6:33:15 PM EST
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But you don’t want to leave that million extra dollars on the table!

Well, maybe. If it works out.
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With what I've seen of the pay rates for experienced underground miners, you don't leave a whole lot on the table!

It's a roll of the dice with many degrees, even STEM. I've got an engineering degree and still couldn't find a job right out of college, so I took that plant job and busted my ass for a year. To be perfectly honest, I learned more fixing screens, troubleshooting conveyors, and running equipment for a year than I did in four years of college, and that experience landed me a pretty great position with my current employer.

(On another note - many of the engineering grads who got their degree at the same time as me took months after graduation to find jobs, and many went to grad school to buy themselves some more time. Even STEM isn't a sure bet now, and it doesn't help that the quality of instruction declined noticeably while I was there)
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 6:37:22 PM EST
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You are an idiot to get a STEM degree now.

Patel is gonna get your job at 25k per year on an H1B while his wife, mother, father, MIL, FIL and cousins all collect social security SSDI, foodstamps and medicare.

buy muy free market....
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 6:39:43 PM EST
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You are an idiot to get a STEM degree now.

Patel is gonna get your job at 25k per year on an H1B while his wife, mother, father, MIL, FIL and cousins all collect social security SSDI, foodstamps and medicare.

buy muy free market....
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. Yup - being smart is stupid
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 6:43:29 PM EST
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You think getting a STEM degree makes you smart?  especially when the market is flooded with off shore "engineers" with fake degrees?

Nothing says brilliant like sitting in a cube for 35 years.
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 6:54:13 PM EST
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College is a business that sales a service/product, if you can't afford the service/business then don't but it. Blaming college for student debt is the equivalent of blaming sugar manufactures for diabetes.

Dang GD sure does turn liberal on some topics.
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You do realize that government policies can distort markets, right?

Like when student loan providers no longer have skin in the game, which massively increases student loan capacity, which causes colleges to bloat costs just because they can.
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 6:55:58 PM EST
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You think getting a STEM degree makes you smart?  especially when the market is flooded with off shore "engineers" with fake degrees?

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I will agree with you there - a smart person would get a .gov job and suck that teet for 20 yrs and then retire with a tax-payer funded pension with full medical.  I wish I would have.  Besides, who doesn’t love taxes?
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 6:58:20 PM EST
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College is a business that sales a service/product, if you can't afford the service/business then don't but it. Blaming college for student debt is the equivalent of blaming sugar manufactures for diabetes.

Dang GD sure does turn liberal on some topics.
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Student loans are economic vampirism and one of the biggest scams ever perpetrated on young people. I say this as a person who has $0 in student loans.

Burn it all down.
colleges created this mess and profited from it.

let those fuck heads pay.
College is a business that sales a service/product, if you can't afford the service/business then don't but it. Blaming college for student debt is the equivalent of blaming sugar manufactures for diabetes.

Dang GD sure does turn liberal on some topics.
ironically enough,  the product colleges sell (a diploma) has become near useless.

back in the day, a degree meant that you had your head on straight.  now,  not so much.  business need a better metric by which to evaluate prospective employees.  no metric really exists, so they default back to academia, though at a higher diploma requirement...

instead of a AA, you need a BA now.
instead of a BA, you need a MA.
instead of a MA, you need your PhD.

and worst of all,  the "degree required" has little if any bearing on the job.   So the colleges still collect money, business get broke applicants willing to take a job for pennies on the dollar.   Everyone wins but the student.

almost like it was planned that way or something.  Weird.
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 6:58:35 PM EST
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College is a business?

Thats funny.  I thought it was a "non-profit" that got special dispensation from the government to ensure loans given to their customers couldn't discharge those loans in bankruptcy.

Is that what the "free market" looks like in your world?
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College is a business that sales a service/product, if you can't afford the service/business then don't but it. Blaming college for student debt is the equivalent of blaming sugar manufactures for diabetes.

Dang GD sure does turn liberal on some topics.
College is a business?

Thats funny.  I thought it was a "non-profit" that got special dispensation from the government to ensure loans given to their customers couldn't discharge those loans in bankruptcy.

Is that what the "free market" looks like in your world?
Trying to explain to him how removing the ability to discharge student loans in bankruptcy can have second and third order inflationary impacts on tuition costs gives me the same feeling that NotSure probably got when he tried to explain to everyone how Brawndo was killing all the plants.
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 6:59:04 PM EST
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You do realize that government policies can distort markets, right?

Like when student loan providers no longer have skin in the game, which massively increases student loan capacity, which causes colleges to bloat costs just because they can.
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College is a business that sales a service/product, if you can't afford the service/business then don't but it. Blaming college for student debt is the equivalent of blaming sugar manufactures for diabetes.

Dang GD sure does turn liberal on some topics.
You do realize that government policies can distort markets, right?

Like when student loan providers no longer have skin in the game, which massively increases student loan capacity, which causes colleges to bloat costs just because they can.
What most of you fail to see with this SJW strategy is .gov will continue to give out loans for useless degrees and it will just cost us even more. Same with the deadbeat bankruptcy strategy, .gov will still give out loans for little Johnny's degree is underwater lesbian poetry degree even if they know he will just file bankruptcy.
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 6:59:34 PM EST
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I will agree with you there - a smart person would get a .gov job and suck that teet for 20 yrs and then retire with a tax-payer funded pension with full medical.  I wish I would have.  Besides, who doesn't love taxes?
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You think getting a STEM degree makes you smart?  especially when the market is flooded with off shore "engineers" with fake degrees?

Nothing says brilliant like sitting in a cube for 35 years.
I will agree with you there - a smart person would get a .gov job and suck that teet for 20 yrs and then retire with a tax-payer funded pension with full medical.  I wish I would have.  Besides, who doesn't love taxes?
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 6:59:58 PM EST
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ironically enough,  the product colleges sell (a diploma) has become near useless.

back in the day, a degree meant that you had your head on straight.  now,  not so much.  business need a better metric by which to evaluate prospective employees.  no metric really exists, so they default back to academia, though at a higher diploma requirement...

instead of a AA, you need a BA now.
instead of a BA, you need a MA.
instead of a MA, you need your PhD.

and worst of all,  the "degree required" has little if any bearing on the job.   So the colleges still collect money, business get broke applicants willing to take a job for pennies on the dollar.   Everyone wins but the student.

almost like it was planned that way or something.  Weird.
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Student loans are economic vampirism and one of the biggest scams ever perpetrated on young people. I say this as a person who has $0 in student loans.

Burn it all down.
colleges created this mess and profited from it.

let those fuck heads pay.
College is a business that sales a service/product, if you can't afford the service/business then don't but it. Blaming college for student debt is the equivalent of blaming sugar manufactures for diabetes.

Dang GD sure does turn liberal on some topics.
ironically enough,  the product colleges sell (a diploma) has become near useless.

back in the day, a degree meant that you had your head on straight.  now,  not so much.  business need a better metric by which to evaluate prospective employees.  no metric really exists, so they default back to academia, though at a higher diploma requirement...

instead of a AA, you need a BA now.
instead of a BA, you need a MA.
instead of a MA, you need your PhD.

and worst of all,  the "degree required" has little if any bearing on the job.   So the colleges still collect money, business get broke applicants willing to take a job for pennies on the dollar.   Everyone wins but the student.

almost like it was planned that way or something.  Weird.
Maybe don't go?
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 7:02:15 PM EST
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sign the line... you Owe the man. it doesnt matter what the reason is. disney trip, over priced education etc.
not my problem. go bankrupt.
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Link Posted: 4/28/2019 7:07:30 PM EST
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What most of you fail to see with this SJW strategy is .gov will continue to give out loans for useless degrees and it will just cost us even more. Same with the deadbeat bankruptcy strategy, .gov will still give out loans for little Johnny's degree is underwater lesbian poetry degree even if they know he will just file bankruptcy.  
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This really is explaining color to a blind person...
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 7:09:37 PM EST
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Maybe don't go?
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Student loans are economic vampirism and one of the biggest scams ever perpetrated on young people. I say this as a person who has $0 in student loans.

Burn it all down.
colleges created this mess and profited from it.

let those fuck heads pay.
College is a business that sales a service/product, if you can't afford the service/business then don't but it. Blaming college for student debt is the equivalent of blaming sugar manufactures for diabetes.

Dang GD sure does turn liberal on some topics.
ironically enough,  the product colleges sell (a diploma) has become near useless.

back in the day, a degree meant that you had your head on straight.  now,  not so much.  business need a better metric by which to evaluate prospective employees.  no metric really exists, so they default back to academia, though at a higher diploma requirement...

instead of a AA, you need a BA now.
instead of a BA, you need a MA.
instead of a MA, you need your PhD.

and worst of all,  the "degree required" has little if any bearing on the job.   So the colleges still collect money, business get broke applicants willing to take a job for pennies on the dollar.   Everyone wins but the student.

almost like it was planned that way or something.  Weird.
Maybe don't go?
if I was a kid graduating high school in this day and age?  i probably wouldnt.  .mil service or the trades, most likely.  but who knows.

student loan debt is a much bigger gamble now than it used to be.  hard to stand out in a crown when everyone has the same education plans as you.
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 7:11:43 PM EST
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This really is explaining color to a blind person...
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What most of you fail to see with this SJW strategy is .gov will continue to give out loans for useless degrees and it will just cost us even more. Same with the deadbeat bankruptcy strategy, .gov will still give out loans for little Johnny's degree is underwater lesbian poetry degree even if they know he will just file bankruptcy.  


This really is explaining color to a blind person...
I believe he is in academia so....
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 7:15:55 PM EST
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I will agree with you there - a smart person would get a .gov job and suck that teet for 20 yrs and then retire with a tax-payer funded pension with full medical.  I wish I would have.  Besides, who doesn’t love taxes?
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No H1Bs in the Infantry

so tough to enlist these days.
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 7:21:28 PM EST
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It needs to happen, along with a restructuring of how we finance college education.

But the American People are like crabs in a bucket with no sense of national identity. They will gladly cripple these kids with debt owed to the tax payers, so they can’t have start families or have kids.

All while we import third worlders to spit out kids, dump money into subsidizing them in the country, so they can hopefully prop up our social programs for the elderly.

I hope it all burns.
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 7:23:04 PM EST
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You are an idiot to get a STEM degree now.

Patel is gonna get your job at 25k per year on an H1B while his wife, mother, father, MIL, FIL and cousins all collect social security SSDI, foodstamps and medicare.

buy muy free market....
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Boom.

Only saving grace is to work in an area that requires US Citizenship.
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 7:25:30 PM EST
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It needs to happen, along with a restructuring of how we finance college education.

But the American People are like crabs in a bucket with no sense of national identity. They will gladly cripple these kids with debt owed to the tax payers, so they can't have start families or have kids.

All while we import third worlders to spit out kids, dump money into subsidizing them in the country, so they can hopefully prop up our social programs for the elderly.

I hope it all burns.
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You, your kids, or grand children have student loans?
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 7:28:05 PM EST
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You people don't have the votes to stop what's coming.  Republicans have lost the popular election in 6 of the last 7 presidential elections.  Trump may win the popular vote for his reelection, but it is not getting any better after him.
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I'm not sure how to respond, mostly because I'm not sure what you are trying to say.
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 7:28:25 PM EST
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Made it through almost 1/2.  He is a perfect example of someone who is to ignorant to go to college.  First problem is he said the average graduate is late 20’s to early 30’s.  A full time student should graduate at 22 for a batchlors and 24 for a masters.  So sounds like the average graduate partyied his 20’s away, then realized he or she was expected to pay it back afterwards.  If you are going to graduate in your late 20’s, you should have been working through college and preventing the student debt in the first place.

Student debt is largely a self fulfilling problem.  You give kids easy loans, kids don’t respect their educations and colleges jack up their fees.
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That said, I bet if you do run the numbers, free tuition can make sense.  The only problem is we already have that via ability based scholarships and specific public paid tuition for certain specialties and or certain individuals - such as military.
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My wife was a perfect example of why student loans suck.  I paid off $20k of her’s, her father paid off the same - she never carred enough about college to get a degree.
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 7:29:29 PM EST
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You, your kids, or grand children have student loans?
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It needs to happen, along with a restructuring of how we finance college education.

But the American People are like crabs in a bucket with no sense of national identity. They will gladly cripple these kids with debt owed to the tax payers, so they can't have start families or have kids.

All while we import third worlders to spit out kids, dump money into subsidizing them in the country, so they can hopefully prop up our social programs for the elderly.

I hope it all burns.
You, your kids, or grand children have student loans?
No, my kids are young. I’m a millennial that got lucky, I can pay mine off. Most aren’t so lucky.

America doesn’t give a fuck about it’s own people.
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 7:31:33 PM EST
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No, my kids are young. I'm a millennial that got lucky, I can pay mine off. Most aren't so lucky.

America doesn't give a fuck about it's own people.
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It needs to happen, along with a restructuring of how we finance college education.

But the American People are like crabs in a bucket with no sense of national identity. They will gladly cripple these kids with debt owed to the tax payers, so they can't have start families or have kids.

All while we import third worlders to spit out kids, dump money into subsidizing them in the country, so they can hopefully prop up our social programs for the elderly.

I hope it all burns.
You, your kids, or grand children have student loans?
No, my kids are young. I'm a millennial that got lucky, I can pay mine off. Most aren't so lucky.

America doesn't give a fuck about it's own people.
Not when they make stupid choices I don't.
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 7:32:52 PM EST
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Made it through almost 1/2.  He is a perfect example of someone who is to ignorant to go to college.  First problem is he said the average graduate is late 20’s to early 30’s.  A full time student should graduate at 22 for a batchlors and 24 for a masters.  So sounds like the average graduate partyied his 20’s away, then realized he or she was expected to pay it back afterwards.  If you are going to graduate in your late 20’s, you should have been working through college and preventing the student debt in the first place.

Student debt is largely a self fulfilling problem.  You give kids easy loans, kids don’t respect their educations and colleges jack up their fees.
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Most of them are working and going to school, they don’t complete the degree as fast because of that.

Working Students
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It needs to happen, along with a restructuring of how we finance college education.

But the American People are like crabs in a bucket with no sense of national identity. They will gladly cripple these kids with debt owed to the tax payers, so they can't have start families or have kids.

All while we import third worlders to spit out kids, dump money into subsidizing them in the country, so they can hopefully prop up our social programs for the elderly.

I hope it all burns.
You, your kids, or grand children have student loans?
No, my kids are young. I'm a millennial that got lucky, I can pay mine off. Most aren't so lucky.

America doesn't give a fuck about it's own people.
Not when they make stupid choices I don't.
Crabs in a bucket with no sense of identity.

Your grandkids will speak Mandarin or Spanish.
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Crabs in a bucket with no sense of identity.

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Have you gotten to the university employee in this thread crowing about how awesome Chinese money is?
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 8:33:08 PM EST
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You are an idiot to get a STEM degree now.

Patel is gonna get your job at 25k per year on an H1B while his wife, mother, father, MIL, FIL and cousins all collect social security SSDI, foodstamps and medicare.

buy muy free market....
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I’m much smarter and have made myself more valuable than Patel.

Edit: Which only means I’ll be the one managing Patel should it come to that.
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 8:33:40 PM EST
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No H1Bs in the Infantry

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That is no bullshittin’ - ain’t nothin like  stealing from your neighbor so you can live - taxes are awesome.  I guess you either pay taxes or get paid by taxes .
Link Posted: 4/28/2019 9:01:07 PM EST
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I would argue national defense is an enumerated responsibility of the federal government.

Its not for everyone.  Some people are just too badass and they would punch a drill sergeant if they tried to yell at them.

serving in the military and getting their degree paid off by the taxpayers is, like, totally the same thing
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I would argue national defense is an enumerated responsibility of the federal government.

Its not for everyone.  Some people are just too badass and they would punch a drill sergeant if they tried to yell at them.

serving in the military and getting their degree paid off by the taxpayers is, like, totally the same thing
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Of course you would, who wouldn’t support the teet they succle upon?  nom, nom, nom, so yummy !!
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Of course you would, who wouldn’t support the teet they succle upon?  nom, nom, nom, so yummy !!
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Is that your opinion of all soldiers or just Sylvan?
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Of course you would, who wouldn’t support the teet they succle upon?  nom, nom, nom, so yummy !!
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I would argue national defense is an enumerated responsibility of the federal government.

Its not for everyone.  Some people are just too badass and they would punch a drill sergeant if they tried to yell at them.

serving in the military and getting their degree paid off by the taxpayers is, like, totally the same thing
Of course you would, who wouldn’t support the teet they succle upon?  nom, nom, nom, so yummy !!
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says the guy who won't pony up 24 bucks for a membership here.

Thats kinda funny.
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I would argue national defense is an enumerated responsibility of the federal government.

Its not for everyone.  Some people are just too badass and they would punch a drill sergeant if they tried to yell at them.

serving in the military and getting their degree paid off by the taxpayers is, like, totally the same thing
Of course you would, who wouldn’t support the teet they succle upon?  nom, nom, nom, so yummy !!
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Well acording to Sylvan own words. If your not in an "elite" unit you are the DMV with a uniform.
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Those "bail outs" also resulted in the government taking over a lot of stressed assets.  Those assets were later sold off, often at a profit.

Most student loan holders have nothing of value for the government to take and re-sell.  They took out loans to pursue worthless degrees.  There are no assets for the government to get in return for a bail out.
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Those "bail outs" also resulted in the government taking over a lot of stressed assets.  Those assets were later sold off, often at a profit.

Most student loan holders have nothing of value for the government to take and re-sell.  They took out loans to pursue worthless degrees.  There are no assets for the government to get in return for a bail out.
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Where were the "pay your debts" crowd when GWB and the 110th congress bailed out financial firms?
Those "bail outs" also resulted in the government taking over a lot of stressed assets.  Those assets were later sold off, often at a profit.

Most student loan holders have nothing of value for the government to take and re-sell.  They took out loans to pursue worthless degrees.  There are no assets for the government to get in return for a bail out.
Yep
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"Apres Trump le deluge".
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Yeremyahu: You people don't have the votes to stop what's coming.  Republicans have lost the popular election in 6 of the last 7 presidential elections.  Trump may win the popular vote for his reelection, but it is not getting any better after him.

hotbiggun42:  I'm not sure how to respond, mostly because I'm not sure what you are trying to say.
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The Republican party says it wants to let the people keep their money
The Democrat party says it wants the government to give people money.
Democrat Presidential candidates get more votes than Republican Presidential candidates.
This trend will grow more extreme unless the Republican Party does something different.
The Republican Party isn't doing anything different.
The Democrat Party will take control of the government.
The Democrat Party will give away trillions of dollars to secure that control.
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Great .... does this mean I get BACK the money I spend paying off my student loans ??!!

Funny no one talks about the connection of ever increasing tuition hikes to gov. guaranteed loans
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 12:11:47 PM EST
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Stop government loans/grants and watch how quickly college becomes affordable, its not rocket science.  Same thing with health insurance, same thing with the CRA/Mortgage crisis, etc. When you inject fake $ that ppl dont have and cant really afford, prices go up to match the unaffordable level then those that could have afford it no longer can and we have to add more fake demand until the .gov runs out of $ at which point it has to create or steal(tax) more until you have Venezuela and a bunch of corpses of citizens.

No more fucking loans you cant qualify for based on a risk determination from a lender.
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 12:28:15 PM EST
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$600 a month should not be crippling for a young person with a useful degree who lives within their means.
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You just described a frikn Unicorn.
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 1:00:29 PM EST
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I will agree with you there - a smart person would get a .gov job and suck that teet for 20 yrs and then retire with a tax-payer funded pension with full medical.  I wish I would have.  Besides, who doesn’t love taxes?
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You think getting a STEM degree makes you smart?  especially when the market is flooded with off shore "engineers" with fake degrees?

Nothing says brilliant like sitting in a cube for 35 years.
I will agree with you there - a smart person would get a .gov job and suck that teet for 20 yrs and then retire with a tax-payer funded pension with full medical.  I wish I would have.  Besides, who doesn’t love taxes?
No, a smart person realizes that economic independence rarely goes hand in hand with having a boss.  We're socialized to be good employees from the first day of kindergarten through college. That applies to the private or public sector.  There's nothing wrong with having a boss; I do, at the moment.  But it doesn't mean the path you took to khaki-wearing cube dweller or gov employee is the one the smartest people are taking.
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 1:17:35 PM EST
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Funny no one talks about the connection of ever increasing tuition hikes to gov. guaranteed loans
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there are plenty of people in this thread talking about that very thing.
Link Posted: 5/3/2019 1:22:04 PM EST
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No, my kids are young. I’m a millennial that got lucky, I can pay mine off. Most aren’t so lucky.

America doesn’t give a fuck about it’s own people.
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It needs to happen, along with a restructuring of how we finance college education.

But the American People are like crabs in a bucket with no sense of national identity. They will gladly cripple these kids with debt owed to the tax payers, so they can't have start families or have kids.

All while we import third worlders to spit out kids, dump money into subsidizing them in the country, so they can hopefully prop up our social programs for the elderly.

I hope it all burns.
You, your kids, or grand children have student loans?
No, my kids are young. I’m a millennial that got lucky, I can pay mine off. Most aren’t so lucky.

America doesn’t give a fuck about it’s own people.
We’ve always been a “you’re on your own” country.  It’s the secret to our success.
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