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Posted: 2/28/2018 2:34:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You get your refund over the five minutes the site was down yesterday palooka? been trying to spend less time on GD since every other thread is someone whining about raising purchasing age/similar topics |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 2:34:49 PM EDT
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Fuck Dicks!
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Posted: 2/28/2018 2:35:31 PM EDT
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Fuck Dicks! |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 2:36:21 PM EDT
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... only possible if they declare age as the discrimination. Otherwise, it's their store, their rules
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Posted: 2/28/2018 2:36:55 PM EDT
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Fuck Dicks.
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Posted: 2/28/2018 2:37:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
... only possible if they declare age as the discrimination. Otherwise, it's their store, their rules |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 2:37:44 PM EDT
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Fuck Dicks. |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 2:37:45 PM EDT
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use a fake id, one that's issued by Kali etc to illegals where no paperwork is needed |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 2:37:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Show us where knives are protected in the bill of rights |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 2:38:53 PM EDT
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Demand Dick's sell wedding cakes!
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Posted: 2/28/2018 2:41:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: didn't even know it was down been trying to spend less time on GD since every other thread is someone whining about raising purchasing age/similar topics |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 2:43:14 PM EDT
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Doubtful, here in Texas Academy has had a MSR age limit of 21 for years.
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Posted: 2/28/2018 2:43:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/28/2018 2:52:49 PM EDT
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Why do I care about what a company named after men's genitals does again?
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Posted: 2/28/2018 2:53:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The bakery decision got overturned recently on appeal, so that's settled now. This decision, will heavily influence business rights. |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:00:28 PM EDT
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Why do I care about what a company named after men's genitals does again? |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:05:53 PM EDT
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I talked to him and he is game as long as it does not interfere with his employment.
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:21:57 PM EDT
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I talked to him and he is game as long as it does not interfere with his employment. This only works if it's done right. |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:23:44 PM EDT
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Their business, their rules. I would argue they can deny a sale of anything, for any reason. |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:26:14 PM EDT
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There are some bakeries that would disagree with your assessment. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Their business, their rules. I would argue they can deny a sale of anything, for any reason. |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:26:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There are some bakeries that would disagree with your assessment. It's corrupt courts that would disagree. But I guess since the courts should force business to do what they want, we should have courts force businesses to what do what we want. Right? |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:27:30 PM EDT
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1A is an individual right that you do not have on private property. Why do you think the 2A should be different? ETA: Dicks is a private company, that is there for profit. It is not a public right to be able to go into Dicks and purchase items. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm with Bob on this one. I think it needs to be tried and then tried in the courts. The 2A is an individual right and the Dick's is a place of public accommodation. Ergo, refusing to sell something based on age with no statutory restrictions should be actionable. Paging @nolocontendre to the white courtesy phone. ETA: Dicks is a private company, that is there for profit. It is not a public right to be able to go into Dicks and purchase items. The 2A isn't; "...shall not be infringed." There is no restriction on who may or may not infringe, the right itself SHALL NOT be infringed. This is the strongest wording in the Constitution. But regardless of my take on this issue, you've created a false dichotomy. |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:27:51 PM EDT
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If "their business their rules" was absolute... The back of the buss would still be a thing.... Completely different from privately owned businesses. |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:28:30 PM EDT
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Buses? You mean PUBLIC transportation? Provided by taxpayer funds? Completely different from privately owned businesses. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If "their business their rules" was absolute... The back of the buss would still be a thing.... Completely different from privately owned businesses. |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:29:02 PM EDT
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Their business, their rules. I would argue they can deny a sale of anything, for any reason. |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:30:13 PM EDT
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The “Their Rules” didn’t work so wel for the bakery in Oregon... I dont think you can discriminate based on age, but I failed that part of law school. |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:30:28 PM EDT
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You are missing the point. This is not about making dicks suffer. This is about SENDING A MESSAGE. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Make them suffer Get the precedent set that the 2A is a civil rights issue, then the restoration of our gun rights becomes much easier. |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:32:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The 1A is limited in scope; "Congress shall make no law..." The 2A isn't; "...shall not be infringed." There is no restriction on who may or may not infringe, the right itself SHALL NOT be infringed. This is the strongest wording in the Constitution. But regardless of my take on this issue, you've created a false dichotomy. Dicks isn't keeping you from keeping and bearing arms, they aren't the only place that sells firearms. |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:33:39 PM EDT
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Their business, their rules. I would argue they can deny a sale of anything, for any reason. However, ATF gives FFL holders the authority to deny sales of firearms to anyone they want without a reason. They better state that for a reason or someone may have a case. |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:34:11 PM EDT
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A stroke of genius!
Dick's and other outfits are going PC and shucking EBR's so let's financially burden one of our remaining (and my favorite, BTW) chains that hasn't went PC-fuddy. Brilliant concept. |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:35:24 PM EDT
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Dress nice....
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:35:42 PM EDT
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Their business, their rules. I would argue they can deny a sale of anything, for any reason. |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:38:03 PM EDT
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I'm with Bob on this one. I think it needs to be tried and then tried in the courts. The 2A is an individual right and the Dick's is a place of public accommodation. Ergo, refusing to sell something based on age with no statutory restrictions should be actionable. Paging @nolocontendre to the white courtesy phone. This is considerably worse that the wedding cake thing, as that wasn't even really a case of a public accommodation. |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:39:29 PM EDT
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The “Their Rules” didn’t work so wel for the bakery in Oregon... I dont think you can discriminate based on age, but I failed that part of law school. An FFL can decline to sell to a buyer for any reason. If they smell bad, give a bad vibe, wear the wrong brand of shoes, anything. |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:40:01 PM EDT
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Their business, their rules. I would argue they can deny a sale of anything, for any reason. |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:40:18 PM EDT
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fuck dicks
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:40:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So no colored people can buy guns? |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:41:07 PM EDT
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A gunstore may legally refuse to sell a gun to anyone they choose. https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-06-17/dealers-choice-gun-store-owners-can-deny-anyone-they-want The ATF has, however, been very protective of the rights of FFL's to not sell based on anything, including protected classes... So I suspect that OP's idea will fail. But he's not wrong. |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:41:46 PM EDT
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Basing a sale strictly based on age if it's the buyers rights? Age discrimination! However, ATF gives FFL holders the authority to deny sales of firearms to anyone they want without a reason. They better state that for a reason or someone may have a case. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Their business, their rules. I would argue they can deny a sale of anything, for any reason. However, ATF gives FFL holders the authority to deny sales of firearms to anyone they want without a reason. They better state that for a reason or someone may have a case. All you have to do, assuming nolo or another lawyer says we have a good case, is not go in there like a raging cop block asshole and not tip our hand until after they deny us. Get it all on video (a 20year old on a 3peice suit being denied a mini30 because of his age would make for fun optics) and go from there |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:43:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Show us where knives are protected in the bill of rights Wow |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:44:37 PM EDT
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soooo, you don't like freedom?
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:44:48 PM EDT
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The CEO went on nbc after the company released the announcement. They dam well stated it as a reason. All you have to do, assuming nolo or another lawyer says we have a good case, is not go in there like a raging cop block asshole and not tip our hand until after they deny us. Get it all on video (a 20year old on a 3peice suit being denied a mini30 because of his age would make for fun optics) and go from there |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:44:55 PM EDT
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Age discrimination occurs when a person is 40+.
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:49:23 PM EDT
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They will come back and say "At the time of that purchase we choose to decline the sale because we thought he was "insert bullshit here". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The CEO went on nbc after the company released the announcement. They dam well stated it as a reason. All you have to do, assuming nolo or another lawyer says we have a good case, is not go in there like a raging cop block asshole and not tip our hand until after they deny us. Get it all on video (a 20year old on a 3peice suit being denied a mini30 because of his age would make for fun optics) and go from there human beings LOVE to tell their story. Look like one of them, quack like one of them. Even be sympathetic to their cause in word and emption. And they will open up to you. 1)dress very nicely, act like it's your first firearms purchase. 2)pick a fudd gun, something you "want to take hunting". Act like a new gun owner who just wants his self purchased first deer rifle. Ask intelligent, but noob question about the process but don't ask age questions. 3)try to purchase said fudd gun they will open up to you like clockwork. |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:50:00 PM EDT
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I would think that if they offer firearms for sale, and the federal and state law shows that you fall within the legal age to purchase, and they refused based on age, then they are in violation of the civil rights act, which includes, race, sex, and age.
If they deny you for any of those three reasons, them you have a suit. Best thing we can do is have a black female of 20 years age, to go in for the sting. There are many reasons they can deny you, even that they don't like your shoes, but those three they cannot. If they state age is the reason, they're screwed. |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:51:35 PM EDT
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The “Their Rules” didn’t work so wel for the bakery in Oregon... I dont think you can discriminate based on age, but I failed that part of law school. |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:53:22 PM EDT
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Christ, there is some DUMB stuff being posted.
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:54:48 PM EDT
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I'll say this. I believe that you should be able to choose who you sell to and any reason is fine. Your business will either prosper or it will wither away based on your choices.
Freedom of Association. Lawsuits like this , and if we're smart, hit every liberal stronghold with demands for service and product that "triggers" them will force them to back away from this as a tactic and work towards freedom of association themselves. |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:55:41 PM EDT
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Tell them that you are a 20 year old transgender that is in fear for your life from anti-transgender white males. I am sure some pro LGBT group will be happy to sue on your behalf.
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Posted: 2/28/2018 3:56:28 PM EDT
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in Missouri it is a felony for an FFL to refuse to sell a firearm to someone that is otherwise legal to purchase said firearm so..... State law says you must sell, federal law says you have no duty to transfer. Sounds like a kick ass business model to me. |
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