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Posted: 12/6/2021 1:08:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: agreeing. I see intelligent design everywhere and there is no way you could convince me that a random explosion billions of years ago led to our planet being here, in exactly the right place to support life as we are. Don't get the big head. There are probably thousands of planets with intelligent life out there. Time and distance will make sure we never meet. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 1:12:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I always assumed I was created by an explosion!  Well I have a theory you got here due to some bangin |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 1:14:23 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: God is real, no question in my mind. but i've always been fascinated with physics, particularly spacetime and astro flavors. the mind melting part is what happened before the big bang. now, granted, the concept of "before..." implies time, which is relative. nevertheless, it seems likely to me that a prior universe like ours cooled and collapsed into the thing that went bang to expand and create ours. makes one wonder how many universes there have been. almost like we're in a simulation that keeps getting rebooted If that is the case then this time around the universe is expanding at an accelerated rate and will not collapse on itself to recycle again. If all the previous cycles did expand then collapse where did the extra energy come from to make this expansion continous versus all the previuos ones? Energy cannot be created nor destroyed. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 1:55:33 AM EST
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I don’t at all believe that. It was planned by a very intelligent being, ie god. How do I know? Because this world is the perfect mix between wonderful beauty, and constant challenges that tests one’s free will.
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Posted: 12/6/2021 6:24:48 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So what came BEFORE the big bang? And what came before whatever came before the big bang Technically....nothing. Time as we know it didn't exist yet. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 6:31:17 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you need the threat of eternal damnation to not mistreat others, spoiler alert, you are a shitty person. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Why are you astonished? It allows people to ignore morals that go beyond animalistic urges. If there is no intelligent design, then it’s truly “survival of the fittest” and you should do whatever it takes to gain power/resources. If you need the threat of eternal damnation to not mistreat others, spoiler alert, you are a shitty person. When antichrist comes and shows his/her/its supernatural powers, many otherwise intelligent people will worship its power. Jesus didnt come to threaten. He came to enlighten. Don’t be fooled by antichrist, it will be defeated. And its worshippers will roast in hell. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 6:31:29 AM EST
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Quoted: I am astonished that people believe this. The Big Bang is one of the dumbest theories ever. Science teaches causality... Untiiiiiil you start talking about the creation of the universe. That came from nothing. Well, it was a hot cloud of dense primordial material that-- Where did that come from? Uhm, the Boltzmann Brain theory says-- But where did that come from? -insert incoherent slobber here- |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 6:36:37 AM EST
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Lmao
OP please state your level of education in Astrophysics |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 6:52:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Science teaches causality... Untiiiiiil you start talking about the creation of the universe. That came from nothing. Well, it was a hot cloud of dense primordial material that-- Where did that come from? Uhm, the Boltzmann Brain theory says-- But where did that come from? -insert incoherent slobber here- It doesn't say that at all; in fact, it's the biggest mystery we have regarding it. We can measure and create meaningful models of the universe, and work back to what the start realistically looked like. But what actually created the sudden expansion.... Was it the big crunch? Is the universe cyclical, where things will eventually collapse again, only to bang out a new universe, creating a cycle? Or perhaps this is the answer to the other side of an equation for a balck hole, and what happens is the physics breaking event horizon. But this crap of just saying "it just came from nothing ".. that's not the scientific model, and if you think scientists think that, no wonder you have issues with it.. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 6:58:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Clearly it's because of the Sky Wizard.  They sky wizard created the big bang. Duh. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 7:11:09 AM EST
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Quoted: I am astonished that people believe this. The Big Bang is one of the dumbest theories ever. I dunno, man, if anything it reinforces it to me. Before anyone knew of the science and math that lead to the Big Bang theory, someone sat down and wrote “God said ‘Let there be light’” *Bang* And there was light. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 7:31:11 AM EST
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" You ask me how a watch works. I don't know. For now, just keep your eye on the time".
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Posted: 12/6/2021 7:35:32 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's obviously all the result of someone we've never seen, never heard from, have no proof he exists, and is constantly in need of more money. Heathen! 
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Posted: 12/6/2021 7:36:58 AM EST
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No.
Everything that has happened, has happened because of God. Evolution happened because of God. The creation of Earth happened because of God. If the universe was formed by a huge explosion, it happened because of God. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 10:11:40 AM EST
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I really envy people who believe in God. Must be nice to go through
life feeling loved and assured of a pleasant hereafter. After all if they are wrong, so what, they believed in a myth that made them happy for their lifetime. I wish I believed in those things. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 10:59:19 AM EST
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Quoted: I am astonished that people believe this. The Big Bang is one of the dumbest theories ever. I'm not smart enough to disprove it. I neither believe nor disbelieve. I am Schrodinger's Big Bang Theorist. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:00:53 AM EST
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:05:01 AM EST
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I like to think of it as more of a very rapid expansion.
 Anyway, this is one of those things (and there are many like it), where I'm not really all that invested in needing to change your mind. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:13:41 AM EST
[#19]
Explosion? Maybe. Random? No.
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:25:39 AM EST
[#20]
Who knows, and ultimately, who cares.
We'll all find out one way or the other. I'm just here to enjoy the ride. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:33:44 AM EST
[#21]
That's how my kids started.
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:36:48 AM EST
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Go watch AKIRA and pay attention to it…
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:39:42 AM EST
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Using the word explosion is an oversimplification of what may have occurred.
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Posted: 12/6/2021 11:43:39 AM EST
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I think it is the result of a seemingly random explosion.
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. You can certainly put a few grains of salt on the old testament as far as what was handed down as oral tradition, what language it was recorded in and translated to, how that affects any sort of symbolism or metaphor or otherwise interpretable meaning.... But if you look at the description in genesis and were to try to interpret what happened there through modern observation, physics and hypothesis you end up with very much the same thing unfolding. The current theory on the big bang and coalescence of matter in to the universe we know today tracks very closely with the biblical account if you don't consider it a literal day and take a bit of openness on the meaning of heavens and earth and the waters above in a quasi formed reality. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 12:56:05 PM EST
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Posted: 12/6/2021 1:19:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We’re going through Genesis in church. I see your confusion then. The book of Genesis ends in 1977 and the big bang didn't come until 1981 when into the air tonight was released. Once you get past genesis you'll understand |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 1:32:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The complexity of the universe as a result of the big bang is infinitely easier for me to believe than that there is some immortal being who made it all. That's where I'm at. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 1:35:05 PM EST
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Posted: 12/6/2021 1:36:30 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When antichrist comes and shows his/her/its supernatural powers, many otherwise intelligent people will worship its power. Jesus didnt come to threaten. He came to enlighten. Don’t be fooled by antichrist, it will be defeated. And its worshippers will roast in hell. This sort of attitude really makes me want to attend your church. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 1:37:41 PM EST
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This is like watching liberals discuss guns and gun control - a bunch of scientifically ignorant opinions based on objectively wrong information.
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Posted: 12/6/2021 2:52:06 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ... No idea how it all got here; all we can do is try to make sense of it. We are literally here in the blink of an eye. BUt I honestly don't believe we are alone in the universe. No! 
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Posted: 12/6/2021 2:58:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: agreeing. I see intelligent design everywhere and there is no way you could convince me that a random explosion billions of years ago led to our planet being here, in exactly the right place to support life as we are. This argument may be the ultimate version of cherry-picking. There are 8 other planets in our solar system* and we've not found life on any of them. We've discovered thousands of exo planets and, last I heard, about 1% of them are even in the right temperature range to support our kind of life, never mind things like radiation, atmosphere, etc. If this particular planet wasn't able to support life, there wouldn't be any life to notice that. * I will fight you. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 2:58:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 1. In the beginning God spoke creation into existence. Or 2. In the beginning there was nothing and then it exploded. Those two things aren’t mutually exclusive. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 3:07:55 PM EST
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“Do you believe everything around you is the result of a random explosion?”
Sure I do. I’m in the shit house! 
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Posted: 12/6/2021 3:16:38 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hold you hand up.... close your eyes.... is your hand still there? You have FAITH that your hand is still there even when you cannot see it. In fact you have FAITH that lots of things exist even though they may not be where you can see them. With God He has promised " Seek and you will Find". God is perfectly capable of proving to you that He exists. I don't have to argue it. I couldn't possibly prove it to you by myself, but HE can prove it to you.  |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 3:18:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it is the result of a seemingly random explosion. 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. You can certainly put a few grains of salt on the old testament as far as what was handed down as oral tradition, what language it was recorded in and translated to, how that affects any sort of symbolism or metaphor or otherwise interpretable meaning.... But if you look at the description in genesis and were to try to interpret what happened there through modern observation, physics and hypothesis you end up with very much the same thing unfolding. The current theory on the big bang and coalescence of matter in to the universe we know today tracks very closely with the biblical account if you don't consider it a literal day and take a bit of openness on the meaning of heavens and earth and the waters above in a quasi formed reality. Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it is the result of a seemingly random explosion. 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. You can certainly put a few grains of salt on the old testament as far as what was handed down as oral tradition, what language it was recorded in and translated to, how that affects any sort of symbolism or metaphor or otherwise interpretable meaning.... But if you look at the description in genesis and were to try to interpret what happened there through modern observation, physics and hypothesis you end up with very much the same thing unfolding. The current theory on the big bang and coalescence of matter in to the universe we know today tracks very closely with the biblical account if you don't consider it a literal day and take a bit of openness on the meaning of heavens and earth and the waters above in a quasi formed reality. Might be just me, but the last paragraph sounds like "2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2". Here is one list of the assumptions, non-literals, or openness on definitions that would be needed to make them the same thing: 1 Earth does not mean the actual Earth, but instead earth means matter and heaven means energy? 2 Not sure what you'd have to take water to mean. 3 This is the formation of suns? 4 The darkness is when dust around the suns coalesced enough that there was no longer "clouds" of glowing dust around each sun? The problem with #3 and #4 that is that the sun, stars, moon, (and other planets?) don't form until the fourth day, which is after the earth already has land, sea, sky, and flora. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 3:20:17 PM EST
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: ... No idea how it all got here; all we can do is try to make sense of it. We are literally here in the blink of an eye. BUt I honestly don't believe we are alone in the universe. No! https://c.tenor.com/913R4CKl2-IAAAAM/modern-family-spray.gif
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Posted: 12/6/2021 3:22:39 PM EST
[#38]
Yes.
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Posted: 12/6/2021 3:49:43 PM EST
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each person will view life on earth along with the origin of the universe based on their ability to process information and their psychological comfort level.
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Posted: 12/6/2021 3:56:25 PM EST
[#40]
Calling the big bang an explosion is really a gross over simplification.
Time did not exist, the rules of universe really didn't exist yet either. There is too much evidence in the universe of this event to discount it. anyway why does it matter? Let there be light = Big Bada Boom |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 4:13:27 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: each person will view life on earth along with the origin of the universe based on their ability to process information and their psychological comfort level. Says a lot about the average GD member then  .
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Posted: 12/6/2021 4:16:07 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don’t at all believe that. It was planned by a very intelligent being, ie god. How do I know? Because this world is the perfect mix between wonderful beauty, and constant challenges that tests one’s free will. Hey Joel. Did y'all find out where the cash in your bathroom wall came from? |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 4:22:33 PM EST
[#43]
Quoted: How many people pray for something similar and it never happens? So God gives you everything you ask for 24/7? Without you giving anything back? You obviously do not understand his grace. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 4:28:28 PM EST
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So God gives you everything you ask for 25/7. Without giving anything back. You obviously do not understand his grace. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: How many people pray for something similar and it never happens? So God gives you everything you ask for 25/7. Without giving anything back. You obviously do not understand his grace. The point was, that he seemed convinced it was Jesus, but coincidence is probably more likely. Say 10,000 other people prayed for the same that evening, and his dog just happened to feel better the next day. He would have confirmation bias without examining how many others didn't have it work for them. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 4:45:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Might be just me, but the last paragraph sounds like "2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2". Here is one list of the assumptions, non-literals, or openness on definitions that would be needed to make them the same thing: 1 Earth does not mean the actual Earth, but instead earth means matter and heaven means energy? 2 Not sure what you'd have to take water to mean. 3 This is the formation of suns? 4 The darkness is when dust around the suns coalesced enough that there was no longer "clouds" of glowing dust around each sun? The problem with #3 and #4 that is that the sun, stars, moon, (and other planets?) don't form until the fourth day, which is after the earth already has land, sea, sky, and flora. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think it is the result of a seemingly random explosion. 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. 3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. You can certainly put a few grains of salt on the old testament as far as what was handed down as oral tradition, what language it was recorded in and translated to, how that affects any sort of symbolism or metaphor or otherwise interpretable meaning.... But if you look at the description in genesis and were to try to interpret what happened there through modern observation, physics and hypothesis you end up with very much the same thing unfolding. The current theory on the big bang and coalescence of matter in to the universe we know today tracks very closely with the biblical account if you don't consider it a literal day and take a bit of openness on the meaning of heavens and earth and the waters above in a quasi formed reality. Might be just me, but the last paragraph sounds like "2 + 2 = 5 for sufficiently large values of 2". Here is one list of the assumptions, non-literals, or openness on definitions that would be needed to make them the same thing: 1 Earth does not mean the actual Earth, but instead earth means matter and heaven means energy? 2 Not sure what you'd have to take water to mean. 3 This is the formation of suns? 4 The darkness is when dust around the suns coalesced enough that there was no longer "clouds" of glowing dust around each sun? The problem with #3 and #4 that is that the sun, stars, moon, (and other planets?) don't form until the fourth day, which is after the earth already has land, sea, sky, and flora. 16 God made two great lights—the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars. 17 God set them in the vault of the sky to give light on the earth, 18 to govern the day and the night, and to separate light from darkness. And God saw that it was good. 19 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fourth day. Ok so we don't even really know who wrote Genesis. It is believed to have been Moses. How did he get this information? Was it passed through oral tradition through the long and possibly incomplete lineages spelled out after genesis? Was it directed from God to Moses verbatim as were the commandments and all the instructions for the tabernacle and ark of the covenant? We don't really know any of that so just think of how that sort of information would be related to people without any knowledge of modern physics and science stuff by an omnipotent omnipresent God who just recently invented time and wishes to share some idea of how it was all created to his new human pals... for your list of stuff it really is very open to interpretation. I view genesis as more like poetry filled with imagery to convey an idea. 1 Earth does not mean the actual Earth, but instead earth means matter and heaven means energy? I would say more like earth is matter and energy and heaven is empty space/not even part of the universe or even literal heaven and the physical universe, "it was without form and void" 2 Not sure what you'd have to take water to mean. the tumultuous mass of paleo particles we do not even know of today 3 This is the formation of suns? this would be the formation of matter that emits any light 4 The darkness is when dust around the suns coalesced enough that there was no longer "clouds" of glowing dust around each sun? this would be the formation of stars or even the separation of matter and antimatter The problem with #3 and #4 that is that the sun, stars, moon, (and other planets?) don't form until the fourth day, which is after the earth already has land, sea, sky, and flora. who says God even made land sea sky and flora on the actual earth, he's got a whole multiverse to play with... maybe he sat and thought of each bit for a day and on the 7th he sat down lit his fart and set the chain of events in to motion. You are trying to literalize concepts nobody really understands. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 5:07:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok so we don't even really know who wrote Genesis. It is believed to have been Moses. How did he get this information? Was it passed through oral tradition through the long and possibly incomplete lineages spelled out after genesis? Was it directed from God to Moses verbatim as were the commandments and all the instructions for the tabernacle and ark of the covenant? We don't really know any of that so just think of how that sort of information would be related to people without any knowledge of modern physics and science stuff by an omnipotent omnipresent God who just recently invented time and wishes to share some idea of how it was all created to his new human pals... for your list of stuff it really is very open to interpretation. I view genesis as more like poetry filled with imagery to convey an idea. 1 Earth does not mean the actual Earth, but instead earth means matter and heaven means energy? I would say more like earth is matter and energy and heaven is empty space/not even part of the universe or even literal heaven and the physical universe, "it was without form and void" 2 Not sure what you'd have to take water to mean. the tumultuous mass of paleo particles we do not even know of today 3 This is the formation of suns? this would be the formation of matter that emits any light 4 The darkness is when dust around the suns coalesced enough that there was no longer "clouds" of glowing dust around each sun? this would be the formation of stars or even the separation of matter and antimatter The problem with #3 and #4 that is that the sun, stars, moon, (and other planets?) don't form until the fourth day, which is after the earth already has land, sea, sky, and flora. who says God even made land sea sky and flora on the actual earth, he's got a whole multiverse to play with... maybe he sat and thought of each bit for a day and on the 7th he sat down lit his fart and set the chain of events in to motion. You are trying to literalize concepts nobody really understands. Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok so we don't even really know who wrote Genesis. It is believed to have been Moses. How did he get this information? Was it passed through oral tradition through the long and possibly incomplete lineages spelled out after genesis? Was it directed from God to Moses verbatim as were the commandments and all the instructions for the tabernacle and ark of the covenant? We don't really know any of that so just think of how that sort of information would be related to people without any knowledge of modern physics and science stuff by an omnipotent omnipresent God who just recently invented time and wishes to share some idea of how it was all created to his new human pals... for your list of stuff it really is very open to interpretation. I view genesis as more like poetry filled with imagery to convey an idea. 1 Earth does not mean the actual Earth, but instead earth means matter and heaven means energy? I would say more like earth is matter and energy and heaven is empty space/not even part of the universe or even literal heaven and the physical universe, "it was without form and void" 2 Not sure what you'd have to take water to mean. the tumultuous mass of paleo particles we do not even know of today 3 This is the formation of suns? this would be the formation of matter that emits any light 4 The darkness is when dust around the suns coalesced enough that there was no longer "clouds" of glowing dust around each sun? this would be the formation of stars or even the separation of matter and antimatter The problem with #3 and #4 that is that the sun, stars, moon, (and other planets?) don't form until the fourth day, which is after the earth already has land, sea, sky, and flora. who says God even made land sea sky and flora on the actual earth, he's got a whole multiverse to play with... maybe he sat and thought of each bit for a day and on the 7th he sat down lit his fart and set the chain of events in to motion. You are trying to literalize concepts nobody really understands. You were the one who said this: Quoted: ... But if you look at the description in genesis and were to try to interpret what happened there through modern observation, physics and hypothesis you end up with very much the same thing unfolding. The current theory on the big bang and coalescence of matter in to the universe we know today tracks very closely with the biblical account if you don't consider it a literal day and take a bit of openness on the meaning of heavens and earth and the waters above in a quasi formed reality. So is it a poetic imagery or a close account of what we currently understand to be the formation of the universe? I've noticed this to be a common idea among some Christians. They will take some part of the Bible that correctly describes some corroborated history or science and claim that proves the entire thing is 100% accurate. But when another part is brought up that is contradicted by history, that part is claimed to be allegorical or a parable. Note that I don't have an issue with the Bible being part allegory, part parable, and part fact. What I have issue with is the idea that some parts being historical or scientifically accurate someone proves the entirety of it to be so. My usual counter is to point out that The Three Musketeers is full of historical figures that actually existed, but that doesn't mean that everything that happened in that novel is true. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 5:13:12 PM EST
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Posted: 12/6/2021 8:01:09 PM EST
[#48]
The sun is 96 million miles away from my garden , not to close , not to far away to perfectly ripen my tomatoes
Thank you Big Bang ?? |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 8:03:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You were the one who said this: So is it a poetic imagery or a close account of what we currently understand to be the formation of the universe? I've noticed this to be a common idea among some Christians. They will take some part of the Bible that correctly describes some corroborated history or science and claim that proves the entire thing is 100% accurate. But when another part is brought up that is contradicted by history, that part is claimed to be allegorical or a parable. Note that I don't have an issue with the Bible being part allegory, part parable, and part fact. What I have issue with is the idea that some parts being historical or scientifically accurate someone proves the entirety of it to be so. My usual counter is to point out that The Three Musketeers is full of historical figures that actually existed, but that doesn't mean that everything that happened in that novel is true. Its a bit of both really. It's like trying to explain an incredibly complex subject to children but there are so many more parallels there that come to light when you view them through the lens of what many theoretical physicists believe today. I'd have to try and dig up some of the documentaries I've seen that try to take some of the theoretical physics talking about the formation of the universe and present it in a way that doesn't put people to sleep. I watched a lot of them.around the same time i was reading genesis. There is a lot about how it sorted out that i was like they kinda said that in the bible too... I'm not a biblical literalist. Instead i see that the bible is the most popular book in the world and the stories therein have endured for millenia. I don't particularly care to dissect what is literal or parable or if there's some cases of paul bunyonism. The message is generally how you can interpret it to be a better person. My faith doesn't lie with the words in my $5 chinese printed kjv bible but rather is further inspired by them. |
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Posted: 12/6/2021 8:03:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The sun is 96 million miles away from my garden , not to close , not to far away to perfectly ripen my tomatoes Thank you Big Bang 
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