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Huh. I overestimated you. You're not "better than this". Hope appeasement works this time, Neville. It would be the first. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: Let me out it another way... if Obama had said the exact same words Trump did, more of us would be completely up-in-arms about it. Apoplectic. Telling each other to form little like-minded groups in case the balloon goes up and the government bans everything. How do I know? I remember how dire things were here from 2008-2016. https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-33629023/obama-us-gun-control-laws-greatest-frustration-of-my-presidency Trump just wants to get the tards riled up. And boy howdy, does he ever. Hope appeasement works this time, Neville. It would be the first. |
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You realize you are posting in a thread where he isn't doing anything, right? You do know that? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Huh. I overestimated you. You're not "better than this". Hope appeasement works this time, Neville. It would be the first. You do know that? https://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2018/07/29/report-trump-administration-ramps-up-enforcement-of-federal-gun-laws/ |
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Quoted: I'ts ok as long as Dear Leader Trump does it. Trump control, is the best control. Some people will not get that, until they are deprogramed. View Quote I'll wait. I have yet to see this daily usurpation of my rights. I have the twitter triggered tards telling me I have lost all my rights and tomorrow it will be my AR unless I do, well, something. I am not even sure what I am supposed to be doing at this point. |
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Quoted: I take it you missed this. https://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2018/07/29/report-trump-administration-ramps-up-enforcement-of-federal-gun-laws/ View Quote If a felon tries to buy a gun or a straw purchaser they should be prosecuted. Obama ignoring existing gun laws so he could justify passing new ones was an odious policy. Or do you think Fast and Furious was a good thing? |
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Quoted: There you go deflecting. For the record, I don’t trust either Of them fwiw. Seems as though they both are as pro 2A as you View Quote You are stuck in the position as a lone voice in the wilderness. You may even be right. But you are not going to get a president, of any party, of any background to say, "The NRA is a bunch of gun grabbing faggots. Molon Labe mother fuckers. MGs for everyone" So representing, what, maybe 20,000 people what are you stuck with. And now you have to prove to me the NRA secretly wants to ban all ARs (which, of course, is the inevitable slippery slope if bump stocks (which you can still buy, btw. Do you even own one?). Good luck. |
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You will have to make the case that prohibited persons should be armed. If a felon tries to buy a gun or a straw purchaser they should be prosecuted. Obama ignoring existing gun laws so he could justify passing new ones was an odious policy. Or do you think Fast and Furious was a good thing? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: I take it you missed this. https://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2018/07/29/report-trump-administration-ramps-up-enforcement-of-federal-gun-laws/ If a felon tries to buy a gun or a straw purchaser they should be prosecuted. Obama ignoring existing gun laws so he could justify passing new ones was an odious policy. Or do you think Fast and Furious was a good thing? Why when the R’s are not in control, do they push for pro-gun legislation they know will never pass. Then when they are actually in control, you hear crickets? You got played like a fiddle son. Sorry. |
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There you go deflecting. For the record, I don’t trust either Of them fwiw. Seems as though they both are as pro 2A as you View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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I think the point is way over your head. Why when the R’s are not in control, do they push for pro-gun legislation they know will never pass. Then when they are actually in control, you hear crickets? You got played like a fiddle son. Sorry. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Quoted: I take it you missed this. https://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2018/07/29/report-trump-administration-ramps-up-enforcement-of-federal-gun-laws/ If a felon tries to buy a gun or a straw purchaser they should be prosecuted. Obama ignoring existing gun laws so he could justify passing new ones was an odious policy. Or do you think Fast and Furious was a good thing? Why when the R’s are not in control, do they push for pro-gun legislation they know will never pass. Then when they are actually in control, you hear crickets? You got played like a fiddle son. Sorry. |
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Quoted: I think the point is way over your head. Why when the R’s are not in control, do they push for pro-gun legislation they know will never pass. Then when they are actually in control, you hear crickets? You got played like a fiddle son. Sorry. View Quote Barking up the wrong tree on that one. Trump is hated by both parties. |
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Well, now you find yourself in a dilemma. You are stuck in the position as a lone voice in the wilderness. You may even be right. But you are not going to get a president, of any party, of any background to say, "The NRA is a bunch of gun grabbing faggots. Molon Labe mother fuckers. MGs for everyone" So representing, what, maybe 20,000 people what are you stuck with. And now you have to prove to me the NRA secretly wants to ban all ARs (which, of course, is the inevitable slippery slope if bump stocks (which you can still buy, btw. Do you even own one?). Good luck. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: There you go deflecting. For the record, I don’t trust either Of them fwiw. Seems as though they both are as pro 2A as you You are stuck in the position as a lone voice in the wilderness. You may even be right. But you are not going to get a president, of any party, of any background to say, "The NRA is a bunch of gun grabbing faggots. Molon Labe mother fuckers. MGs for everyone" So representing, what, maybe 20,000 people what are you stuck with. And now you have to prove to me the NRA secretly wants to ban all ARs (which, of course, is the inevitable slippery slope if bump stocks (which you can still buy, btw. Do you even own one?). Good luck. What ever happened to the 2a coalition or the HPA? People like you are just OK with no new legislation. People like me actually want to see some freedoms restored. |
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Quoted: To reiterate for you what I said. I do not TRUST the Nra or Don when it comes to the RKBA. They both use scare tactics, and nice pro gun words to get us to vote and send money their way. Do I think the NRA would come for my Ar15’s, No. What ever happened to the 2a coalition or the HPA? People like you are just OK with no new legislation. People like me actually want to see some freedoms restored. View Quote I want 34 repealed. 91 Import ban (which trump could do now) gone. If not 34 repealed, at least HPA. But I understand that silencers and MGs are fringe issues. Don't confuse my understanding of political realities as an endorsement of them. I am certainly not going to hyperventilate about a throw away tweet from Trump. Seriously. If after 2 years you don't realize his twitter feed is just his thinking aloud, I don't know what to tell you. Have you ever wondered what is going through the president's head? Now you know. Thats what I call transparency. Trump, to his credit, knows what he doesn't know. Guns is something he doesn't know. And when he has questions on issues (and printing guns became an issue because of lawsuits and federal judges) he asks people he trusts. Trump goes to the NRA. To everyone not WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY into guns, NRA is THE pro-gun lobby. A president getting his policy on firearms from the NRA is the best anyone can reasonably hope for. To see it as impending doom and door to door confiscation tomorrow is foolishness at best and a disqualifier on your 4473 at worst. |
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So basically don't take anything the President says seriously because what he says might not be serious, or alternatively, incredibly serious? That's about where we're at? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Everyone needs to realize that when Trump tweets or says something (especially off the cuff), you CANNOT take it seriously, or even literally. His tweets MIGHT be very serious, and represent a stable belief/attitude on something. His tweets MIGHT be designed to tweak/infuriate people. His tweets MIGHT be designed as an opening position in a later negotiation. His tweets MIGHT be designed to help frame an issue for discussion. His tweets MIGHT just be stream-of-consciousness off the top of his head. With Trump, the only actual thing that matters is the outcome. What will actually happen - and not what he says. In terms of guns, so far, NOTHING bad has happened, and in terms of the SCOTUS, things are looking very, very good. I voted for Trump for one reason, and that is SCOTUS appointments. So far, my vote has paid off very well. If Hillary had been elected, the 2nd Amendment would have been totally fucked in the Supreme Court already. That's about where we're at? |
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You will have to make the case that prohibited persons should be armed. If a felon tries to buy a gun or a straw purchaser they should be prosecuted. Obama ignoring existing gun laws so he could justify passing new ones was an odious policy. Or do you think Fast and Furious was a good thing? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: I take it you missed this. https://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2018/07/29/report-trump-administration-ramps-up-enforcement-of-federal-gun-laws/ You will have to make the case that prohibited persons should be armed. If a felon tries to buy a gun or a straw purchaser they should be prosecuted. Obama ignoring existing gun laws so he could justify passing new ones was an odious policy. Or do you think Fast and Furious was a good thing? |
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Trump usually settles down on the right position after saying stupid shit in some tweet. I just don't see the point of the stupid tweets is all. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I am not OK with no new legislation. I want 34 repealed. 91 Import ban (which trump could do now) gone. If not 34 repealed, at least HPA. But I understand that silencers and MGs are fringe issues. Don't confuse my understanding of political realities as an endorsement of them. I am certainly not going to hyperventilate about a throw away tweet from Trump. Seriously. If after 2 years you don't realize his twitter feed is just his thinking aloud, I don't know what to tell you. Have you ever wondered what is going through the president's head? Now you know. Thats what I call transparency. Trump, to his credit, knows what he doesn't know. Guns is something he doesn't know. And when he has questions on issues (and printing guns became an issue because of lawsuits and federal judges) he asks people he trusts. Trump goes to the NRA. To everyone not WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY into guns, NRA is THE pro-gun lobby. A president getting his policy on firearms from the NRA is the best anyone can reasonably hope for. To see it as impending doom and door to door confiscation tomorrow is foolishness at best and a disqualifier on your 4473 at worst. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: To reiterate for you what I said. I do not TRUST the Nra or Don when it comes to the RKBA. They both use scare tactics, and nice pro gun words to get us to vote and send money their way. Do I think the NRA would come for my Ar15’s, No. What ever happened to the 2a coalition or the HPA? People like you are just OK with no new legislation. People like me actually want to see some freedoms restored. I want 34 repealed. 91 Import ban (which trump could do now) gone. If not 34 repealed, at least HPA. But I understand that silencers and MGs are fringe issues. Don't confuse my understanding of political realities as an endorsement of them. I am certainly not going to hyperventilate about a throw away tweet from Trump. Seriously. If after 2 years you don't realize his twitter feed is just his thinking aloud, I don't know what to tell you. Have you ever wondered what is going through the president's head? Now you know. Thats what I call transparency. Trump, to his credit, knows what he doesn't know. Guns is something he doesn't know. And when he has questions on issues (and printing guns became an issue because of lawsuits and federal judges) he asks people he trusts. Trump goes to the NRA. To everyone not WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY into guns, NRA is THE pro-gun lobby. A president getting his policy on firearms from the NRA is the best anyone can reasonably hope for. To see it as impending doom and door to door confiscation tomorrow is foolishness at best and a disqualifier on your 4473 at worst. |
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Trump usually settles down on the right position after saying stupid shit in some tweet. I just don't see the point of the stupid tweets is all. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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If they are still that much of a threat they should be in jail, nicht wahr? View Quote But now we are back to fantasy land versus reality. In fantasy land, violent felons all receive life without parole. In reality land, they are let out after 3 years. So you can deal with reality or deal with fantasy. Your call. |
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Could you please highlight what Dear Leader Trump has banned. I'll wait. I have yet to see this daily usurpation of my rights. I have the twitter triggered tards telling me I have lost all my rights and tomorrow it will be my AR unless I do, well, something. I am not even sure what I am supposed to be doing at this point. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: I'ts ok as long as Dear Leader Trump does it. Trump control, is the best control. Some people will not get that, until they are deprogramed. I'll wait. I have yet to see this daily usurpation of my rights. I have the twitter triggered tards telling me I have lost all my rights and tomorrow it will be my AR unless I do, well, something. I am not even sure what I am supposed to be doing at this point. |
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Well, now you find yourself in a dilemma. You are stuck in the position as a lone voice in the wilderness. You may even be right. But you are not going to get a president, of any party, of any background to say, "The NRA is a bunch of gun grabbing faggots. Molon Labe mother fuckers. MGs for everyone" So representing, what, maybe 20,000 people what are you stuck with. And now you have to prove to me the NRA secretly wants to ban all ARs (which, of course, is the inevitable slippery slope if bump stocks (which you can still buy, btw. Do you even own one?). Good luck. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: There you go deflecting. For the record, I don’t trust either Of them fwiw. Seems as though they both are as pro 2A as you You are stuck in the position as a lone voice in the wilderness. You may even be right. But you are not going to get a president, of any party, of any background to say, "The NRA is a bunch of gun grabbing faggots. Molon Labe mother fuckers. MGs for everyone" So representing, what, maybe 20,000 people what are you stuck with. And now you have to prove to me the NRA secretly wants to ban all ARs (which, of course, is the inevitable slippery slope if bump stocks (which you can still buy, btw. Do you even own one?). Good luck. The discussion is far bigger than bumpfire stocks or even ARs. Your god emperor has opened the door to the idea that banning an object can make people safer. Something the NRA and all of us have vehemently argued against from the start. It’s not about objects. Objects are tools. It’s about evil in the hearts of men. |
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Not banning something is equivalent to not doing anything. He should be at least actively trying to increase and defend our rights. He keeps talking to the NRA, and the NRA seems to be starting to follow Trump on his positions. I don't know who is leading who but it isn't the glory that we were promised. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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They won't. The dems can never admit to what they are actually thinking and the MSM carries their water for them. Tweeting is how Trump bypasses the communist media and speaks directly to the american people. That people don't understand this very simple fact baffles me. that people refuse to admit it is the basis of his success is, at this point, lunacy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Which has consequences. I do not know where we go from here, and you all know the R's will eventually lose power. So if we are collectively disturbed by a twittering oval office, just wait till the D's are doing it. The dems can never admit to what they are actually thinking and the MSM carries their water for them. Tweeting is how Trump bypasses the communist media and speaks directly to the american people. That people don't understand this very simple fact baffles me. that people refuse to admit it is the basis of his success is, at this point, lunacy. Or so I have been lead to believe...……. |
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They won't. The dems can never admit to what they are actually thinking and the MSM carries their water for them. Tweeting is how Trump bypasses the communist media and speaks directly to the american people. That people don't understand this very simple fact baffles me. that people refuse to admit it is the basis of his success is, at this point, lunacy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
Quoted: Which has consequences. I do not know where we go from here, and you all know the R's will eventually lose power. So if we are collectively disturbed by a twittering oval office, just wait till the D's are doing it. The dems can never admit to what they are actually thinking and the MSM carries their water for them. Tweeting is how Trump bypasses the communist media and speaks directly to the american people. That people don't understand this very simple fact baffles me. that people refuse to admit it is the basis of his success is, at this point, lunacy. entertaining the easily entertained riling up the easily riled up sucking up news cycles but "speaking directly to the American people" is, from time to time, of dubious value showing your ass on gun rights issues is one of those times |
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