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Link Posted: 8/2/2018 9:47:28 AM EST
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Lets break this down.

I am looking into 3-D Plastic Guns being sold to the public. Already spoke to NRA, doesn’t seem to make much sense!

The first statement.  The lawsuits trying to stop the files implied that Plastic Guns are being sold to the public.

He has already spoken to the NRA prior to the tweet.

He said, and I completely agree, that doesn't seem to make much sense, because it wasn't true.

This is the tweet that proved to EVERYONE on this thread masturbating to finally being either 1.  Right about Trump or 2.  Gonna finally vote from the rooftops and get to shoot BATFE agents who are going to seize all the guns door to door.

I want YOU to explain how his tweet "showed his ass on gun rights"

be specific now.
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showing your ass on gun rights issues is one of those times
Lets break this down.

I am looking into 3-D Plastic Guns being sold to the public. Already spoke to NRA, doesn’t seem to make much sense!

The first statement.  The lawsuits trying to stop the files implied that Plastic Guns are being sold to the public.

He has already spoken to the NRA prior to the tweet.

He said, and I completely agree, that doesn't seem to make much sense, because it wasn't true.

This is the tweet that proved to EVERYONE on this thread masturbating to finally being either 1.  Right about Trump or 2.  Gonna finally vote from the rooftops and get to shoot BATFE agents who are going to seize all the guns door to door.

I want YOU to explain how his tweet "showed his ass on gun rights"

be specific now.
you're dense
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 9:48:49 AM EST
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Perhaps.

Which is why I want you to explain it to me.
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 9:56:51 AM EST
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Perhaps.

Which is why I want you to explain it to me.
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you're dense
Perhaps.

Which is why I want you to explain it to me.
showing his ass = showing that his knee-jerk thoughts on guns and the 2nd Amendment are a mile away from how most of us here feel.

it's notable that his knee-jerk tweets and utterances never err on our side of gun rights
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 9:57:38 AM EST
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They won't.

The dems can never admit to what they are actually thinking and the MSM carries their water for them.

Tweeting is how Trump bypasses the communist media and speaks directly to the american people.

That people don't understand this very simple fact baffles me.

that people refuse to admit it is the basis of his success is, at this point, lunacy.
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You are admitting, which I agree the current media is communist. So when there is a shift of majority or POTUS, what would you call the media then?
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 9:57:57 AM EST
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showing his ass = showing that his knee-jerk thoughts on guns and the 2nd Amendment are a mile away from how most of us here feel.

it's notable that his knee-jerk tweets and utterances never err on our side of gun rights
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you're dense
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Which is why I want you to explain it to me.
showing his ass = showing that his knee-jerk thoughts on guns and the 2nd Amendment are a mile away from how most of us here feel.

it's notable that his knee-jerk tweets and utterances never err on our side of gun rights
We all acknowledge that...….he needs to do MORE pro active stuff 2A wise.

There is simply NO DENYING his failings in that area.
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:01:25 AM EST
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We all acknowledge that...….he needs to do MORE pro active stuff 2A wise.

There is simply NO DENYING his failings in that area.
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you're dense
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Which is why I want you to explain it to me.
showing his ass = showing that his knee-jerk thoughts on guns and the 2nd Amendment are a mile away from how most of us here feel.

it's notable that his knee-jerk tweets and utterances never err on our side of gun rights
We all acknowledge that...….he needs to do MORE pro active stuff 2A wise.

There is simply NO DENYING his failings in that area.
there won't be more pro active stuff

because it doesn't matter to him

but you better hope we don't lose Congress, because the Dems sure do care about guns, and Trump will trade away shit he doesn't care about in heartbeat
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:02:51 AM EST
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there won't be more pro active stuff

because it doesn't matter to him

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We won't lose the Senate IMHO.

Might not even lose the House.

Remember 2016 when all the 'tards said Hillary has a "98 percent path to victory".
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:09:23 AM EST
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You are admitting, which I agree the current media is communist. So when there is a shift of majority or POTUS, what would you call the media then?
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They remain communists.  Or, to be more accurate, socialists.  The media see themselves as the Rousseauian "super man"  (communist man, if you prefer) who, due to their superior intellect and education, are REQUIRED to lead the masses to the glorious future.

Naturally, they should be well compensated for their noble work and those who oppose them are sub human and evil (you might say deplorable)
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:11:27 AM EST
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showing his ass = showing that his knee-jerk thoughts on guns and the 2nd Amendment are a mile away from how most of us here feel.

it's notable that his knee-jerk tweets and utterances never err on our side of gun rights
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showing his ass = showing that his knee-jerk thoughts on guns and the 2nd Amendment are a mile away from how most of us here feel.

it's notable that his knee-jerk tweets and utterances never err on our side of gun rights
Bingo
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:13:35 AM EST
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We won't lose the Senate IMHO.

Might not even lose the House.

Remember 2016 when all the 'tards said Hillary has a "98 percent path to victory".
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there won't be more pro active stuff

because it doesn't matter to him

but you better hope we don't lose Congress, because the Dems sure do care about guns, and Trump will trade away shit he doesn't care about in heartbeat
We won't lose the Senate IMHO.

Might not even lose the House.

Remember 2016 when all the 'tards said Hillary has a "98 percent path to victory".
I do think we'll keep the senate... but there would be enough crossover Rs to pass any house-passed gun control
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:13:56 AM EST
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A 'gun free' school is a magnet for bad people
Fact – the tighter the gun laws, the more violence. The criminals will always have guns.
Isn’t it interesting that the tragedy in Paris took place in one of the toughest gun control countries in the world?
"@TarekR: @realDonaldTrump What do you think should be done about Gun Control in the US?"All good folks that have a gun should control it!
Obama’s own gun study proves gun control is ineffective
Did the Boston terrorists register their guns? No. Another example of why gun control legislation is not the answer!

I guess we all see what we want to when it comes to Trump.
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:14:29 AM EST
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Not quite, see above.

But those tweets are ignored.
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:15:09 AM EST
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Still waiting on that bumpstock ban you all were fretting about.
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:16:15 AM EST
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I do think we'll keep the senate... but there would be enough crossover Rs to pass any house-passed gun control
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there won't be more pro active stuff

because it doesn't matter to him

but you better hope we don't lose Congress, because the Dems sure do care about guns, and Trump will trade away shit he doesn't care about in heartbeat
We won't lose the Senate IMHO.

Might not even lose the House.

Remember 2016 when all the 'tards said Hillary has a "98 percent path to victory".
I do think we'll keep the senate... but there would be enough crossover Rs to pass any house-passed gun control
I disagree with you on that.
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:18:12 AM EST
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And it may still happen.  Or it may just disappear.  They are 150 on gun broker.  Curious why they aren't higher, truth be told, as they are the only thing standing between us and a total gun confiscation.

I hope they classify them as machine guns.  and then allow a one year amnesty to register machine guns.

That was my guess a year ago as a possible outcome.

I'd love to be right this time.  Long odds, but the NRA put that forward as the recommended course of action.

Who knows what I may find if that happens.
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:19:19 AM EST
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Just got here, yep, it's one of those much to do about nothing threads.
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:20:19 AM EST
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Much ado about nothing.
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:20:33 AM EST
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yeah and I'm still waiting on HPA and reciprocity and Russian imports
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:20:33 AM EST
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And it may still happen.  Or it may just disappear.  They are 150 on gun broker.  Curious why they aren't higher, truth be told, as they are the only thing standing between us and a total gun confiscation.

I hope they classify them as machine guns.  and then allow a one year amnesty to register machine guns.

That was my guess a year ago as a possible outcome.

I'd love to be right this time.  Long odds, but the NRA put that forward as the recommended course of action.

Who knows what I may find if that happens.
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Serious question...…..how would we register them...…..just give them our lower receiver's serial number?
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:23:40 AM EST
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Serious question...…..how would we register them...…..just give them our lower receiver's serial number?
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No clue.  But would that be kinda awesome or what?

"yeah, I 3d printed a slide fire stock and its mounted to this AR permanently."  here is the serial #...
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:23:52 AM EST
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They remain communists.  Or, to be more accurate, socialists.  The media see themselves as the Rousseauian "super man"  (communist man, if you prefer) who, due to their superior intellect and education, are REQUIRED to lead the masses to the glorious future.

Naturally, they should be well compensated for their noble work and those who oppose them are sub human and evil (you might say deplorable)
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Agreed. Communist/socialist though different have been colluded in conversation. It is harder to share even common thoughts with some over semantics. Not implying you, I have read enough to know what side you come down on, and I would like to be on that side of the trenches. Yes I know static warfare is a in the past
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:24:24 AM EST
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No clue.  But would that be kinda awesome or what?

"yeah, I 3d printed a slide fire stock and its mounted to this AR permanently."  here is the serial #...
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Serious question...…..how would we register them...…..just give them our lower receiver's serial number?
No clue.  But would that be kinda awesome or what?

"yeah, I 3d printed a slide fire stock and its mounted to this AR permanently."  here is the serial #...
I would get the biggest stiffy of my life.
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:28:14 AM EST
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And it may still happen.  Or it may just disappear.  They are 150 on gun broker.  Curious why they aren't higher, truth be told, as they are the only thing standing between us and a total gun confiscation.

I hope they classify them as machine guns.  and then allow a one year amnesty to register machine guns.

That was my guess a year ago as a possible outcome.

I'd love to be right this time.  Long odds, but the NRA put that forward as the recommended course of action.

Who knows what I may find if that happens.
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Even though it wouldn't do me any good in IL, I'd need to see a doctor after my freedom erection lasted longer than 4 hours
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:28:30 AM EST
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Employees of Slidefire unavailable for comment.
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:31:54 AM EST
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Just got here, yep, it's one of those much to do about nothing threads.
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Still waiting on that bumpstock ban you all were fretting about.
Just got here, yep, it's one of those much to do about nothing threads.
Florida did it, with an R legislature and R governor. Fuck Skeletor, I'm not voting for that bald-headed traitor.
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:32:52 AM EST
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yeah and I'm still waiting on HPA and reciprocity and Russian imports
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Still waiting on that bumpstock ban you all were fretting about.
yeah and I'm still waiting on HPA and reciprocity and Russian imports
We finally found the collusion, boys! Close the investigation!
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:35:16 AM EST
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Florida did it, with an R legislature and R governor. Fuck Skeletor, I'm not voting for that bald-headed traitor.
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Trump can't help "Florida Man" and runs your state and "Cat Lady" is the face of the NRA there.
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:40:35 AM EST
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Congress shall make no law.... it is pretty simple the CAD files are free speech just like the anarchist cookbook or all those government manuals that were published back in the 1960's

The courts will not rule in his favor if he pursues a ban on the CAD release that is 100% why the feds wrapped it up.
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:45:07 AM EST
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I'd rather him stay out of that mess, we got bigger problems than libs not repopulating.
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 10:45:24 AM EST
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Trump can't help "Florida Man" and runs your state and "Cat Lady" is the face of the NRA there.
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Trump told Dick Scott, good job.
Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 11:20:11 AM EST
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Talk to Congress about the first two.

Don't believe I ever saw a Trump statement one way or the other on the last one.
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 11:23:45 AM EST
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Talk to Congress about the first two.

Don't believe I ever saw a Trump statement one way or the other on the last one.
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He probably has no idea it exists.

I blame the NRA for the latter one.

There are some EOs he could fix with a pen.  I am fairly confident if the NRA pushed it, he would.  Maybe post mid-terms.  He certainly doesn't want to throw ammunition to left.

That stuff doesn't resonate with anyone except for the fringe of the gun community which, whether we like it or not, we happen to be.
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 11:40:06 AM EST
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Wow.

First time that has happened.

Thanks for the perspective, sparky.
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Good Lord are you intentionally being dense?

The discussion is far bigger than bumpfire stocks or even ARs.

Your god emperor has opened the door to the idea that banning an object can make people safer. Something the NRA and all of us have vehemently argued against from the start.

It’s not about objects. Objects are tools. It’s about evil in the hearts of men.
Wow.

First time that has happened.

Thanks for the perspective, sparky.
In other words, “Shields up, preparing for more defection, captain!”
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 11:47:36 AM EST
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In other words, “Shields up, preparing for more defection, captain!”
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I think my words were pretty clear.

You, on the other hand, wish to pretend prohibitions on objects were unheard of prior to the Trump presidency.

All in a thread kept alive by hyperventilating freedom fighters.
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 12:01:58 PM EST
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LOL following this line of logic, Obummer was a pro 2A president. Ran his cock holster about gun control but got no new federal gun control laws passed. Six in one, half a dozen in the other?
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LOL following this line of logic, Obummer was a pro 2A president. Ran his cock holster about gun control but got no new federal gun control laws passed. Six in one, half a dozen in the other?
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Still waiting on that bumpstock ban you all were fretting about.
LOL following this line of logic, Obummer was a pro 2A president. Ran his cock holster about gun control but got no new federal gun control laws passed. Six in one, half a dozen in the other?
Fail.
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 12:26:36 PM EST
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I would get the biggest stiffy of my life.
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Serious question...…..how would we register them...…..just give them our lower receiver's serial number?
No clue.  But would that be kinda awesome or what?

"yeah, I 3d printed a slide fire stock and its mounted to this AR permanently."  here is the serial #...
I would get the biggest stiffy of my life.
You guys are getting excited about registering guns, you know that, right?
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 12:29:10 PM EST
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I think my words were pretty clear.

You, on the other hand, wish to pretend prohibitions on objects were unheard of prior to the Trump presidency.

All in a thread kept alive by hyperventilating freedom fighters.
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In other words, “Shields up, preparing for more defection, captain!”
I think my words were pretty clear.

You, on the other hand, wish to pretend prohibitions on objects were unheard of prior to the Trump presidency.

All in a thread kept alive by hyperventilating freedom fighters.
Completely false. Keep deflecting.

I’m saying “no more”.

You’re saying “if you think we will escape this without losing something you’re delusional “ (words to that effect)

Your next post: “Scotty, more power to the shields!!!”
Link Posted: 8/2/2018 12:31:51 PM EST
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I think my words were pretty clear.

You, on the other hand, wish to pretend prohibitions on objects were unheard of prior to the Trump presidency.

All in a thread kept alive by hyperventilating freedom fighters.
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In other words, “Shields up, preparing for more defection, captain!”
I think my words were pretty clear.

You, on the other hand, wish to pretend prohibitions on objects were unheard of prior to the Trump presidency.

All in a thread kept alive by hyperventilating freedom fighters.
or kept alive by a proponent of a fighting retreat...
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Retreating from what?

Shit, to listen to this thread, you would think Trump has signed a dozen EOs banning everything.

And its pretty clear no one on here understands what happened with the Akins Accelerator, how it works, and who was president when he got fucked.
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Retreating from what?

Shit, to listen to this thread, you would think Trump has signed a dozen EOs banning everything.

And its pretty clear no one on here understands what happened with the Akins Accelerator, how it works, and who was president when he got fucked.
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From what I understand the Akins Accelerator works by using a mechanism that utilizes a spring to harness the momentum generated by the discharge of a firearm to push the firearm and the trigger forward allowing the trigger to reset.  Constant finger pressure to the trigger pulls the trigger again which allows the weapon to discharge so long as that pressure on the trigger exists and the device continues to use the recoil to reset the trigger.

Basically it was a bump fire technique generated by a mechanical device.

People say it was "approved" but that's not how this works.   ATF doesn't approve anything.   ATF issued opinion(s), if memory serves, under the W. Bush administration and it was under that same administration ATF deemed the device to be a machine gun or conversion device or whatever it was they said.

Did I miss anything?

Did I get anything wrong in that?
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From what I understand the Akins Accelerator works by using a mechanism that utilizes a spring to harness the momentum generated by the discharge of a firearm to push the firearm and the trigger forward allowing the trigger to reset.  Constant finger pressure to the trigger pulls the trigger again which allows the weapon to discharge so long as that pressure on the trigger exists and the device continues to use the recoil to reset the trigger.

Basically it was a bump fire technique generated by a mechanical device.

People say it was "approved" but that's not how this works.   ATF doesn't approve anything.   ATF issued opinion(s), if memory serves, under the W. Bush administration and it was under that same administration ATF deemed the device to be a machine gun or conversion device or whatever it was they said.

Did I miss anything?

Did I get anything wrong in that?
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Thats it.  The key point being, like the bump stock, is that the trigger was reset each time.  Instead of forward pressure with the off hand, it used springs.
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Thats it.  The key point being, like the bump stock, is that the trigger was reset each time.  Instead of forward pressure with the off hand, it used springs.
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I agree with everything you just said however the difference is in one example the ATF released a shitty opinion and, in the other example, the ATF/DOJ have decided to potentially change the interpretation of the statutory language.

It's not just that the language in the proposed rule change is bad; it is.   It's that should ATF proceed and should this survive judicial scrutiny, this could very well kick open Pandora's box in the future.

For a lot of reasons.
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Keep it rolling I am enjoying reading
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Oh, please.

Nobody ever 'thanks' me for my posts.  
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I despise all gun laws. Two laws would cover it all.

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Amen.

Now if only we could get the big-brained cuckservatives onboard.  
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No, you're right -- he just wants to outlaw certain types of publishing, and certain types of published content.

....Because that's a winning argument.

"Let's fuck over the 1st and 2nd amendment -- AT THE SAME TIME!"  
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Oh, you want me to defend the republican party?

Barking up the wrong tree on that one.

Trump is hated by both parties.
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Oh, please.

Trump is the CINO Republican party at this point.

Non-swamp draining, big-talking, big spending CINO's.
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Trump usually settles down on the right position after saying stupid shit in some tweet.

I just don't see the point of the stupid tweets is all.
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It's easy.

Trump's Twitter is the fastest line straight into Trump's brain.  What he posts on Twitter is what he actually believes (before all of the walk-backs and corrections and 'what he really meant to say was...')

The only reason why he sometimes changes his opinion is because someone will get in his ear and say: "Uh, Mr. President.  I saw that Tweet.  Here's the way I see it...."
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