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Link Posted: 11/2/2017 11:23:15 AM EDT
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How can you be so naive?  You actually think that drug violence will end with legalization?  These people will continue to fight turf wars there and then here for control of the supply.

I am amazed by the blindness of the pro-drug crowd.
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Drugs are a victimless crime, McKay?
They mostly are, when legal. Prohibition breeds violence, just like this.
How can you be so naive?  You actually think that drug violence will end with legalization?  These people will continue to fight turf wars there and then here for control of the supply.

I am amazed by the blindness of the pro-drug crowd.
He said "Prohibition breeds violence", and he is 100% correct. It's a fact that can't be argued or denied.

Is the answer to legalize all drugs? Maybe, maybe not. That's a different discussion. But again, drugs being illegal are 100% the reason why cartels do what they do.
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 11:33:31 AM EDT
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They mostly are, when legal. Prohibition breeds violence, just like this.
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This. End the demand they violently seek to fulfill.
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 11:38:35 AM EDT
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What bullpup is that in the first picture? Edit quick research it looks like a norinco type 86s
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Mexico's avocado army: how one city stood up to the drug cartels
When Mexican drug cartels threatened the country’s $1.5bn avocado export industry with extortion and murder, farmers in Tancítaro decided to fight back...

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/may/18/avocado-police-tancitaro-mexico-law-drug-cartels
What bullpup is that in the first picture? Edit quick research it looks like a norinco type 86s
Wait, civvies can't have military style weapons in Mexico, something is wrong with those pics!  
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 12:17:50 PM EDT
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And people want to go on a vacation there.
I will never go there and spend any money.
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No, it is safe.  Friend of mine said he felt very safe because there were lots of Mexican marines everywhere.  
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 12:22:45 PM EDT
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I don't know why the decent people simply haven't begun randomly killing drug dealers.
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Because they are disarmed by their corrupt government and are then killed and cooked by the cartel. Plus decent people in Mexico number less than a standard 1911 magazine. 
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 12:40:47 PM EDT
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Carne de hombres
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<------Note User Name.  I'm going to Mexico next Tuesday.  Son already has dibs on everything.
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 12:42:00 PM EDT
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Coming soon (if not already) to a border state near you!
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It's already here in the Califonia Central Valley.
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 12:44:01 PM EDT
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Do you think the guys are just going to go get jobs at the local Piggly wiggly if drugs are decriminalized?
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They mostly are, when legal. Prohibition breeds violence, just like this.
Do you think the guys are just going to go get jobs at the local Piggly wiggly if drugs are decriminalized?
No. They will just focus more on they're other illegal incomes like extortion and human trafficking.

Do you think the cartels can compete with a legal drug businesses that are protected by laws? Can cartels compete with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pharmaceutical_companies ?
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 12:48:19 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/2/2017 1:08:55 PM EDT
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Didn't those guys get broken up after some of them were shown to be on cartel payroll and the leader was using his power to bang random younger women?
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Link Posted: 11/2/2017 1:20:02 PM EDT
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My, how times have changed down there
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My wife's family is from Morelia. She keeps trying to convince me that we should go to visit. It's a beautiful area but it's getting crazy over there. 
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 2:39:36 PM EDT
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I can't eat Mexican, gives me the shits
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 3:01:24 PM EDT
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Drugs are a victimless crime, Mmkay?
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Prohibitions spawn black markets, black markets spawn violence.

Try harder.
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 3:39:04 PM EDT
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The law-abiding population was disarmed in 1968.
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Time for them to stop obeying the law.
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 3:41:03 PM EDT
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No. They will just focus more on they're other illegal incomes like extortion and human trafficking.

Do you think the cartels can compete with a legal drug businesses that are protected by laws? Can cartels compete with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pharmaceutical_companies ?
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They mostly are, when legal. Prohibition breeds violence, just like this.
Do you think the guys are just going to go get jobs at the local Piggly wiggly if drugs are decriminalized?
No. They will just focus more on they're other illegal incomes like extortion and human trafficking.

Do you think the cartels can compete with a legal drug businesses that are protected by laws? Can cartels compete with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pharmaceutical_companies ?
No American pharmaceutical company is going into the recreational cocaine market because the lawsuits from addicts.  Like big tobacco, only with much worse PR.

And of course, the cartels still control the source.
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 3:43:09 PM EDT
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This is not the 1920s and these are Midwest booze runners.  You cannot put the genie back in the bottle.  This isn’t about guns.  By your reasoning, the next step would be zero co-pay on meth and black tar heroine.
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Tonto,

I have a few addicts in the family and I would absolutely support this. Clear the deck.
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 3:45:40 PM EDT
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boy, you have a funny way of twisting reality into your own reality.
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 3:46:05 PM EDT
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And strangely, no one gets barbecued over alcohol other legal drug production and distribution territory.

It's almost like there's a common factor all the legal drugs have which tends to avoid this kind of a violence and a common factor all the illegal drugs have that leads to this kind of violence.

If only we could identify those common factors.
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 3:48:58 PM EDT
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No American pharmaceutical company is going into the recreational cocaine market because the lawsuits from addicts.  Like big tobacco, only with much worse PR.

And of course, the cartels still control the source.
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When Uncle Sugar stops throwing money into the War on Drugs, Latin and South America will just legalize the business.  
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 3:50:05 PM EDT
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And strangely, no one gets barbecued over alcohol other legal drug production and distribution territory.

It's almost like there's a common factor all the legal drugs have which tends to avoid this kind of a violence and a common factor all the illegal drugs have that leads to this kind of violence.

If only we could identify those common factors.
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Have we checked to see if murder and BBQing victims has been banned down there? It could be a simple issue of not banning enough things.
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 3:52:49 PM EDT
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Suuuure. Legalize it all. Im sure the Cartels will just take up selling tacos. You want to know something that most inmates have in common? Most of them are drug users. Drugs are fucking awesome!!!!
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Drugs are a victimless crime, McKay?
Just like Alcohol during Prohibition, Officer? 
Yup, which is why we have all those alcohol cartel related murders today. Oh wait there aren't any. Maybe they just forgot for a few years. That's probably it. 

Gotta love some of the posters on here with zero critical thinking skills. If gun prohibition is bad, and alcohol prohibition is bad, then drug prohibition will also be bad. You can't have it any other way. 
Suuuure. Legalize it all. Im sure the Cartels will just take up selling tacos. You want to know something that most inmates have in common? Most of them are drug users. Drugs are fucking awesome!!!!
You can either de criminalize it OR grow and fund the black market.  Your choice. One or the other. No other options.  So the cartel thanks you for keeping their profit margins high.  

Do you know something else criminals have in common? Mental health issues.  So if society decides to stop waging war against people who need help and instead treat the underlying issues then maybe we'd have less criminals in prison.  Its as if this has been done in other countries where people have some critical thinking skills, and not in the US where brain dead Sessions is in control. 
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 3:57:29 PM EDT
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I mean, why would anyone possibly want a border wall???
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 3:57:41 PM EDT
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Because they are disarmed by their corrupt government and are then killed and cooked by the cartel. Plus decent people in Mexico number less than a standard 1911 magazine
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I don't know why the decent people simply haven't begun randomly killing drug dealers.
Because they are disarmed by their corrupt government and are then killed and cooked by the cartel. Plus decent people in Mexico number less than a standard 1911 magazine
So practically none.

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I mean, why would anyone possibly want a border wall???
Diversity is our strength.
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 4:02:58 PM EDT
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You are doing far more to support this shit than anyone advocating for ending the black market that feeds these animals billions of dollars.
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 4:06:14 PM EDT
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The importation of addictive substances predates the US by a long time.

The same people were involved using the same routes, and the same laundering/profiteering methods.

Ever heard of the East India Company?

The Bank of England?

Legal or illegal, people have been murdered to control the trade, while the consumers' lives are ruined or dulled.

That's the business model of drugs and alcohol, a very profitable one.
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 4:15:13 PM EDT
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No it's not. Rather common and widespread. 
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 4:26:24 PM EDT
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I have lived and worked in a border town for over 20 years. Up until 10 years ago it was a quiet place. The last 10 years, there have been over 20 murders. There are only 1100 people in the town. Between the illegal immigrant and the cartels, it is a war zone. Border patrol check points, ICE plain clothes, helos in the air constantly and bodies in the desert from dehydration. People don’t understand the gravity of the situation and never will unless they see it first hand.
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 4:27:27 PM EDT
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The importation of addictive substances predates the US by a long time.

The same people were involved using the same routes, and the same laundering/profiteering methods.

Ever heard of the East India Company?

The Bank of England?

Legal or illegal, people have been murdered to control the trade, while the consumers' lives are ruined or dulled.

That's the business model of drugs and alcohol, a very profitable one.
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Opium Wars for the mother fucking Colonial Empire buikding win!
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 4:33:13 PM EDT
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This is the utopia the advocates for gun control and open border  want.
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Willing to bet the advocates for gun control sent those AK's and AR's to Mexico. Thanks again Obama and Holder.
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 4:33:54 PM EDT
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Mexico's avocado army: how one city stood up to the drug cartels
When Mexican drug cartels threatened the country’s $1.5bn avocado export industry with extortion and murder, farmers in Tancítaro decided to fight back...

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/may/18/avocado-police-tancitaro-mexico-law-drug-cartels
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Saw a documentary about a town that started a militia to fight back.  The corrupt .gov sent in the Mexican military at request of the Cartel to shut them down.
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 4:35:08 PM EDT
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snip from Paul Nehlen email yesterday...DACA and 800,000 illegals granted amnesty before Christmas
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Ryan can't do it on his own. Somebody has to sign it.
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 4:55:21 PM EDT
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I have lived and worked in a border town for over 20 years. Up until 10 years ago it was a quiet place. The last 10 years, there have been over 20 murders. There are only 1100 people in the town. Between the illegal immigrant and the cartels, it is a war zone. Border patrol check points, ICE plain clothes, helos in the air constantly and bodies in the desert from dehydration. People don’t understand the gravity of the situation and never will unless they see it first hand.
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No one is supposed to know. this is the stuff that govt tries to keep quiet.
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 4:58:27 PM EDT
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I’ll have a coke...

And a salad.
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Exactly what part of this are you ok with?
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 5:02:54 PM EDT
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The is a result of the US Government, not drugs
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 5:17:53 PM EDT
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So the 35,000 people killed by drunk drivers each year are not victims?
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They mostly are, when legal. Prohibition breeds violence, just like this.
So the 35,000 people killed by drunk drivers each year are not victims?
Impaired driving and consumption of alcohol aren't the same thing


Consumption of alcohol or any other drug only has the potential to hurt the user
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 5:20:12 PM EDT
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Ryan can't do it on his own. Somebody has to sign it.
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Ryan can't do it on his own. Somebody has to sign it.
Sometimes you have to make deals and compromise,right?

Link Posted: 11/2/2017 5:23:45 PM EDT
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How can you be so naive?  You actually think that drug violence will end with legalization?  These people will continue to fight turf wars there and then here for control of the supply.

I am amazed by the blindness of the pro-drug crowd.
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LOLOLOL

Are you naive enough to think that the likes of Phillip Morris, Pfizer, or Johnson and Johnson would actually buy from those assholes?

Within a year the US would be producing so much that they wouldn't even be able to begin to compete
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LOLOLOL

Are you naive enough to think that the likes of Phillip Morris, Pfizer, or Johnson and Johnson would actually buy from those assholes?

Within a year the US would be producing so much that they wouldn't even be able to begin to compete
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And then the cartels would wither and die without the massive stream of easy money the illicit drug trade offers.

Sucks if you're either part of the cartel or if your livelihood is tied to perpetuating this horrific shit, but it'd be a massive win for everyone else.
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 6:19:32 PM EDT
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Money are a victimless crime, Mmkay?

Econ 101...I made an A in the class without even buying the textbook.

I can't believe some people actually flunked it.
Link Posted: 11/2/2017 6:22:43 PM EDT
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How can you be so naive?  You actually think that drug violence will end with legalization?  These people will continue to fight turf wars there and then here for control of the supply.

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How many people have died this decade from fleeing bootleggers and booze smuggling?
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Suuuure. Legalize it all. Im sure the Cartels will just take up selling tacos. You want to know something that most inmates have in common? Most of them are drug users. Drugs are fucking awesome!!!!



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Supply and demand is hard isn't it?


legalize the weed here, people will stop buying and paying for it from Mexico. (basic supply chain costs.)

with no money in it what do you think happens to the cartels?




PS I bet you are one of the ones who likes "common sense" gun legislation, you know for the children
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They mostly are, when legal. Prohibition breeds violence, just like this.
So the 35,000 people killed by drunk drivers each year are not victims?
Impaired driving and consumption of alcohol aren't the same thing


Consumption of alcohol or any other drug only has the potential to hurt the user
Don't worry, we're totally winning the WoD so keep laffin' brah.
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Aztecs gonna Aztec.
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