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Posted: 11/2/2017 7:27:43 PM EDT
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Suuuure. Legalize it all. Im sure the Cartels will just take up selling tacos. You want to know something that most inmates have in common? Most of them are drug users. Drugs are fucking awesome!!!! 
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Drugs are a victimless crime, McKay? 
Gotta love some of the posters on here with zero critical thinking skills. If gun prohibition is bad, and alcohol prohibition is bad, then drug prohibition will also be bad. You can't have it any other way.
. Heres a fascinating part. Not a single one of them cares about a big wall, helicopters, submarines, CCTV, increased BP, microphones, thermal imaging, troops on the border, etc. None of it. There only one thing that theyre scared to death of. Its legalization. Each and every one of them across the board. Wanna guess why? But again, dont take my word for it. Read up on it on your own and get the facts, right from their own mouths. Or continue living in ignorance because learning is hard. I dont care. Unless you yourself make a living off of prohibition too. Then I can understand your position. Neither side wants the money train to stop. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 7:38:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2017 7:42:38 PM EDT
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There was an interesting documentary on netflix about the cartels, police, and government.
It's pretty much the circle of life down there. The vigilante group of citizens that started killing the cartel and driving them out of the town soon became the new cartel, and just as bad as the people they were getting rid of. The government had no control over the situation, so they offered amnesty to cartel members if they became cops, which most of them did. And by "become cops" they literally walked into the police station and got handed their polos with a badge on them. Now they're cops. Still doing all the same criminal shit. I will never step foot in that country. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 7:43:43 PM EDT
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The law-abiding population was disarmed in 1968. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I don't know why the decent people simply haven't begun randomly killing drug dealers. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 7:44:00 PM EDT
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And strangely, no one gets barbecued over alcohol other legal drug production and distribution territory.  Maybe that could have something to do with why those drugs are legal.
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Posted: 11/2/2017 7:48:34 PM EDT
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I spent time in Apatzingan and Nueva Italia. The only reason those towns exist is the drug trade.
That's not to say that everyone is directly involved with the trade, but that it's the largest industry, and most of the money in the town's ultimately comes from it. Lots of good people there, however. People struggling just to figure out where tomorrow's food will come from. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 8:15:48 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2017 8:16:56 PM EDT
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How many people have died this decade from fleeing bootleggers and booze smuggling? I'll take the warning to call out this level of fucktarded. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 8:18:46 PM EDT
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Lol, prohibition ended over 80 years ago, dumbass, it wasn't passed this year. That's the stupidest thing I'll read this week, and ANTIFA day is Saturday. I'll take the warning to call out this level of fucktarded. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 8:22:18 PM EDT
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Drugs are a victimless crime, Mmkay? |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 8:22:22 PM EDT
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What exactly are you talking about? I read it several times and I have no idea how what you said relates to what he said. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 8:31:25 PM EDT
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I presume youve never read any interviews with these Cartel bosses. You should check it out. You can read their opinions in their own words. Heres a fascinating part. Not a single one of them cares about a big wall, helicopters, submarines, CCTV, increased BP, microphones, thermal imaging, troops on the border, etc. None of it. There only one thing that theyre scared to death of. Its legalization. Each and every one of them across the board. Wanna guess why? But again, dont take my word for it. Read up on it on your own and get the facts, right from their own mouths. Or continue living in ignorance because learning is hard. I dont care. Unless you yourself make a living off of prohibition too. Then I can understand your position. Neither side wants the money train to stop. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Drugs are a victimless crime, McKay?
Gotta love some of the posters on here with zero critical thinking skills. If gun prohibition is bad, and alcohol prohibition is bad, then drug prohibition will also be bad. You can't have it any other way.
. Heres a fascinating part. Not a single one of them cares about a big wall, helicopters, submarines, CCTV, increased BP, microphones, thermal imaging, troops on the border, etc. None of it. There only one thing that theyre scared to death of. Its legalization. Each and every one of them across the board. Wanna guess why? But again, dont take my word for it. Read up on it on your own and get the facts, right from their own mouths. Or continue living in ignorance because learning is hard. I dont care. Unless you yourself make a living off of prohibition too. Then I can understand your position. Neither side wants the money train to stop. Banks Gov't, to include foreign services, internal anti-drug police Foreign governments Money launderers Kingpins Smugglers/distribution network Refiners Growers Local peddlers Customers The banks certainly don't want legalization, because they already have a low-cost network of retards who are willing to: Consume, grow, refine, smuggle, manage, money-launder, use as off-books revenue generation for foreign activities, and distribute without any W-2s, no worker's comp, no paid vacations, no healthcare plans, no OSHA, while they can literally get caught for being involved in the trade and pay a small fine in the unlikely event that a brave prosecutor survives and is able to get traction with a case. The foreign kingpins are not in control of the drug trade, and can be wiped out if they ever go off the reservation or don't play ball. They are expendable, just like everyone else downstream, with the customers being the most expendable point of the whole scheme. The people who listened to their outhouse economist/lawyer argument for legalization need to stop consuming the product, get clean for a little bit, and think about who actually controls the drug industry. Legalization would crush profitability for banks, collapse many economies around the world, and destabilize existing financial networks, while pulling smuggling networks from the intelligence services of every G-20 nation. Good luck! |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 8:33:39 PM EDT
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So you're saying Capone, the Kennedy's and Rockefeller ate their victims. Moonshining goes on in the south, so moonshiners are cannibals? What exactly is your point? If society is denied drugs or alcohol, they go cannibalistic?
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Drugs are a victimless crime, McKay? Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.  Moonshining goes on in the south, so moonshiners are cannibals? What exactly is your point? If society is denied drugs or alcohol, they go cannibalistic?
What do criminals eating innocent victims have to do with prohibition? They created the Securities and Exchange Commission mainly because of him, then appointed him the first Chairman of it. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 8:36:37 PM EDT
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If you want to compare today's dope trade and alcohol prohibition of the 1930s, you have to realize that alcohol prohibition was repealed over 80 years ago, nobody was killed/wounded smuggling illegal alcohol in the last ten years, making that statement retarded. If they legalized all dope tomorrow we'd have to wait 80 years to see if he's right or not. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 8:47:51 PM EDT
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Doing drugs is a 100% victimless crime. Murder/extortion/etc... those aren't. But some people are stupid enough to ignore all of human history, and believe you can stop actual crimes by banning other things. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They mostly are, when legal. Prohibition breeds violence, just like this. Murder/extortion/etc... those aren't. But some people are stupid enough to ignore all of human history, and believe you can stop actual crimes by banning other things. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 8:49:56 PM EDT
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It isn't a victimless crime when a parent would rather do drugs than thake care of their kid. Doing drugs doesn't. A crime should be an action with an identifiable victim. Your argument is the same one that fuels gun control, the concept that banning THINGS will eliminate ACTIONS (or even that banning things will prevent people from getting them.) Freedom is scary. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 8:51:22 PM EDT
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The drug war is working
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Posted: 11/2/2017 8:52:04 PM EDT
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They mostly are, when legal. Prohibition breeds violence, just like this. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Drugs are a victimless crime, McKay? |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 8:53:27 PM EDT
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The drug war is working |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 8:55:43 PM EDT
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So they'd just go away if we legalize all drugs? All of a sudden their hearts are pure and they join a choir? They aren't going to wage open warfare over a failed business model. They kill now because it's profitable, not because they have some sort of obsession with murder. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 8:56:44 PM EDT
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All joking aside, it amazes me that people could seriously hold that view. I could drive a few miles and find whatever drugs I wanted, and drugs are pretty well illegal. Drugs are so easy to get, children can get them. I can only imagine the only people who support drug laws are people ignorant to how easy they are to get, or statists. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 8:57:32 PM EDT
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The war on drugs is a business that fuels government spending and expansion. What do I know though. I have only been born and raised in a border town 
Shaped my view on immigrants and drug law. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 8:57:37 PM EDT
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They mostly are, when legal. Prohibition breeds violence, just like this. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 8:59:30 PM EDT
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There are more than 2 sides to the illicit narcotics business. There are many sides. Banks Gov't, to include foreign services, internal anti-drug police Foreign governments Money launderers Kingpins Smugglers/distribution network Refiners Growers Local peddlers Customers The banks certainly don't want legalization, because they already have a low-cost network of retards who are willing to: Consume, grow, refine, smuggle, manage, money-launder, use as off-books revenue generation for foreign activities, and distribute without any W-2s, no worker's comp, no paid vacations, no healthcare plans, no OSHA, while they can literally get caught for being involved in the trade and pay a small fine in the unlikely event that a brave prosecutor survives and is able to get traction with a case. The foreign kingpins are not in control of the drug trade, and can be wiped out if they ever go off the reservation or don't play ball. They are expendable, just like everyone else downstream, with the customers being the most expendable point of the whole scheme. The people who listened to their outhouse economist/lawyer argument for legalization need to stop consuming the product, get clean for a little bit, and think about who actually controls the drug industry. Legalization would crush profitability for banks, collapse many economies around the world, and destabilize existing financial networks, while pulling smuggling networks from the intelligence services of every G-20 nation. Good luck! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Drugs are a victimless crime, McKay?
Gotta love some of the posters on here with zero critical thinking skills. If gun prohibition is bad, and alcohol prohibition is bad, then drug prohibition will also be bad. You can't have it any other way.
. Heres a fascinating part. Not a single one of them cares about a big wall, helicopters, submarines, CCTV, increased BP, microphones, thermal imaging, troops on the border, etc. None of it. There only one thing that theyre scared to death of. Its legalization. Each and every one of them across the board. Wanna guess why? But again, dont take my word for it. Read up on it on your own and get the facts, right from their own mouths. Or continue living in ignorance because learning is hard. I dont care. Unless you yourself make a living off of prohibition too. Then I can understand your position. Neither side wants the money train to stop. Banks Gov't, to include foreign services, internal anti-drug police Foreign governments Money launderers Kingpins Smugglers/distribution network Refiners Growers Local peddlers Customers The banks certainly don't want legalization, because they already have a low-cost network of retards who are willing to: Consume, grow, refine, smuggle, manage, money-launder, use as off-books revenue generation for foreign activities, and distribute without any W-2s, no worker's comp, no paid vacations, no healthcare plans, no OSHA, while they can literally get caught for being involved in the trade and pay a small fine in the unlikely event that a brave prosecutor survives and is able to get traction with a case. The foreign kingpins are not in control of the drug trade, and can be wiped out if they ever go off the reservation or don't play ball. They are expendable, just like everyone else downstream, with the customers being the most expendable point of the whole scheme. The people who listened to their outhouse economist/lawyer argument for legalization need to stop consuming the product, get clean for a little bit, and think about who actually controls the drug industry. Legalization would crush profitability for banks, collapse many economies around the world, and destabilize existing financial networks, while pulling smuggling networks from the intelligence services of every G-20 nation. Good luck! Thanks. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:06:19 PM EDT
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Not really, because we can look to the immediate years after prohibition. His point "in the last 10 years" was obviously alluding to the fact the success of ending prohibition has spanned the century. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you want to compare today's dope trade and alcohol prohibition of the 1930s, you have to realize that alcohol prohibition was repealed over 80 years ago, nobody was killed/wounded smuggling illegal alcohol in the last ten years, making that statement retarded. If they legalized all dope tomorrow we'd have to wait 80 years to see if he's right or not. Prohibition created complicit city councils, Senators, Congressmen, Governors, and police departments in the illicit trade, corrupting whatever wasn't corrupted already almost overnight. We are still dealing with the continual residual effects of prohibition in our society, many of which embraced the illicit narcotics trade. Look at any major US city, for example. Corruption is endemic to the system, and provided the financing for the profiteers to buy off government decades ago. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:11:03 PM EDT
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Neglect has a victim. Doing drugs doesn't. A crime should be an action with an identifiable victim. Your argument is the same one that fuels gun control, the concept that banning THINGS will eliminate ACTIONS (or even that banning things will prevent people from getting them.) Freedom is scary. An addict will do things to fuel their addiction that a non addict would not do. They will neglect their kids, sell everything they have, go into debt they can never repay, lie, cheat, and steal to fuel their addiction. I am sure there are plenty of LEOs here that have seen abuse and neglect happen because of drugs. No doing drugs is not a victimless crime. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:13:05 PM EDT
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All joking aside, it amazes me that people could seriously hold that view. I could drive a few miles and find whatever drugs I wanted, and drugs are pretty well illegal. Drugs are so easy to get, children can get them. I can only imagine the only people who support drug laws are people ignorant to how easy they are to get, or statists. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:15:20 PM EDT
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Hell no it isn't working however legalizing them won't work either. All that will do is legitimize the cartels. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:16:33 PM EDT
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I'm not talking about banning anything. I am saying that your statement is flawed. An addict will do things to fuel their addiction that a non addict would not do. They will neglect their kids, sell everything they have, go into debt they can never repay, lie, cheat, and steal to fuel their addiction. I am sure there are plenty of LEOs here that have seen abuse and neglect happen because of drugs. No doing drugs is not a victimless crime. Not everyone who does drugs neglects kids. Not everyone who does drugs loses their job, or doesn't pay their bills, or gets addicted. The crime is neglect. That's the action with a victim. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:16:43 PM EDT
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Drugs are a victimless crime, Mmkay? |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:17:34 PM EDT
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The US has never recovered from Prohibition. Prohibition created complicit city councils, Senators, Congressmen, Governors, and police departments in the illicit trade, corrupting whatever wasn't corrupted already almost overnight. We are still dealing with the continual residual effects of prohibition in our society, many of which embraced the illicit narcotics trade. Look at any major US city, for example. Corruption is endemic to the system, and provided the financing for the profiteers to buy off government decades ago. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:17:42 PM EDT
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Drugs are a victimless crime, Mmkay? |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:19:08 PM EDT
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Drugs are a victimless crime, Mmkay? Did we make it in before the freedom crowd and the it is my body to do with what I want crowd. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:20:59 PM EDT
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I see someone else gets it. Did we make it in before the freedom crowd and the it is my body to do with what I want crowd. Since you seem to take offense to the freedom argument, you surely can acknowledge the fact your war has completely failed and is a financial boondoggle that's done nothing but expand the government? |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:22:19 PM EDT
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Fake News in the Americas
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:23:06 PM EDT
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Seems like ISIS are a bunch of choir boys compared to these fucks.  |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:26:20 PM EDT
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Eh. It's different, but by far not even close to the worst thing they have done on camera.
Cutting a guys stomach open and pulling his guts out while he is still alive tops this. I think they skinned some girl alive in another video. Was years ago, though. Maybe just her face... |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:30:28 PM EDT
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I have lived and worked in a border town for over 20 years. Up until 10 years ago it was a quiet place. The last 10 years, there have been over 20 murders. There are only 1100 people in the town. Between the illegal immigrant and the cartels, it is a war zone. Border patrol check points, ICE plain clothes, helos in the air constantly and bodies in the desert from dehydration. People don’t understand the gravity of the situation and never will unless they see it first hand. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:31:50 PM EDT
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Horrible...
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:32:42 PM EDT
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This is exactly why I don't give the slightest fuck about the Mexican civilians. When they've had enough, they'll arm themselves and kill every last soul in the cartels and their families, but I wouldn't hold my breath because I'd venture to guess they'd have to kill about 70% of the population and everyone in their government to accomplish that. Effective guns are essentially illegal as fuck and nobody wants to end up in Mexican prison getting spit roasted by the guards and their prisoner buddies. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:35:16 PM EDT
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No, your thought process is flawed. Not everyone who does drugs neglects kids. Not everyone who does drugs loses their job, or doesn't pay their bills, or gets addicted. The crime is neglect. That's the action with a victim. They can’t function in society. Can’t hold a job. Can’t take care of their kids. It just isn’t possible. Only another drug addict would think it was. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:36:41 PM EDT
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Once illicit drugs are legalized here in Estados Unidos, the mexican cartels will dispose of the chainsaws, axes, and sharp knives they previously used to horrifically torture and murder the competition AND innocent bystanders with. At that point, the now-upright cartel businessmen will then aspire to wear three piece designer suits and adopt the U.S. pharmaceutical drug business model. Everything will be fine!
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:37:15 PM EDT
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My, how times have changed down there
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b4/b5/31/b4b531b9335b97f124052cefc0a7c3f7--character-concept-character-design.jpg  sacrifice scene apocalypto |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:37:58 PM EDT
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kill and grill 10/10....rules and all that.
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:38:53 PM EDT
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Once illicit drugs are legalized here in Estados Unidos, the mexican cartels will dispose of the chainsaws, axes, and sharp knives they previously used to horrifically torture and murder the competition AND innocent bystanders with. At that point, the now-upright cartel businessmen will then aspire to wear three piece designer suits and adopt the U.S. pharmaceutical drug business model. Everything will be fine! Do you seriously believe when they lose their illegal drug revenue, they will say "Ok, then lets go around murdering people for no reason what-so-ever, and hopefully our soldiers will be OK without being paid?" They couldn't extort enough money to survive without drug revenue. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:41:30 PM EDT
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I think your thought process is flawed too. If you are talking about a pot head maybe I can get there. There are no stand up dad of the year model citizen Heroin users. Maybe for a very short period of time but soon every Heroin user will he committing crimes to support their habit. Period. They can’t function in society. Can’t hold a job. Can’t take care of their kids. It just isn’t possible. Only another drug addict would think it was. However, you're ignorant. ETA: This isn't meant to be an insult. Most people who aren't exposed to drugs have no idea how prolific they are on the street, let alone in big business offices. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:42:26 PM EDT
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This week, members of the Nueva Familia Michoacana Cartel carried out a series of gory executions in the rural areas between Apatzingan and La Ruana. Operatives kidnapped 11 victims from which the remains of only three were recovered. The victims were not rival cartel members–only local residents who refused to support the Nueva Familia Michoacana. Cartel gunmen severed the heads from their bodies and then cut various body-parts off. The cartel placed some of the human remains on a grill and cooked them.., http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/11/01/exclusive-graphic-mexican-cartel-dismembers-grills-innocent-civilians/ Coming soon to US cities everywhere. No penalities, no fucks given by criminals. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:44:15 PM EDT
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WATCH AT YOUR OWN RISK: Cartels Batting Practice
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:46:39 PM EDT
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Why do you believe they're doing what the do? And how do you believe they will support their literal armies losing 96% of their revenue stream (and the other 4% will be hard to maintain?) Do you seriously believe when they lose their illegal drug revenue, they will say "Ok, then lets go around murdering people for no reason what-so-ever, and hopefully our soldiers will be OK without being paid?" They couldn't extort enough money to survive without drug revenue. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Once illicit drugs are legalized here in Estados Unidos, the mexican cartels will dispose of the chainsaws, axes, and sharp knives they previously used to horrifically torture and murder the competition AND innocent bystanders with. At that point, the now-upright cartel businessmen will then aspire to wear three piece designer suits and adopt the U.S. pharmaceutical drug business model. Everything will be fine! Do you seriously believe when they lose their illegal drug revenue, they will say "Ok, then lets go around murdering people for no reason what-so-ever, and hopefully our soldiers will be OK without being paid?" They couldn't extort enough money to survive without drug revenue. You disgust me. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 9:48:28 PM EDT
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The cartels wouldn't have the income stream to begin with if you didn't create the demand for the product which you seem heavily invested in. You disgust me. 
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