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Posted: 2/5/2023 10:27:50 PM EDT
With the demise of the small domestic meth lab due to the cartels perfecting processing operations and economies of scale, why is the Combat Methamphetamine Epidemic Act of 2005 still on the books? No one is smurfing bronkaid to make meth anymore; thanks to the mexicans the drug is cheaper than it's ever been and available in higher purity than all but the most dedicated basement lab would ever be able to provide.
Attached File The stupid law didn’t do squat anyway; you can see that in Missouri, lab busts went up after the passage of the law and never came back down until the cartels dominated the scene. So, honest question: Why is a law that never functioned to combat the problem for which it was created, and whose sole reason for existence is now gone, still on the books? |
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Given a meth epidemic or fentanyl, I choose meth.
At least we can get some work out them before they die. |
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Because there is no 60 minutes episode of outrage that the law is still on the books.
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Lol. You think laws and regulations are about solving problems? Laws and regulations are about control. Over you.
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I was behind a smurfer years ago in a grocery store line. Nothing but sinus medicine. I totally knew what it was for.
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At some point soon we are going to hit peak law capacity where everything is illegal.
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Quoted: So, honest question: Why is a law that never functioned to combat the problem for which it was created, and whose sole reason for existence is now gone, still on the books? View Quote Better question... How many different laws fall into the category described above; both useless and obsolete? I bet the number is astronomical. Congress should be forced to do a complete audit of every law on the books before they can make any more new laws. They should be forced to delete five obsolete laws for every new law they want to pass. |
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Because pseudoephedrine is cheap and effective, and it's timely use can prevent minor problems from escalation into major health issues.
Can't have cheap effective over the counter medicine, can we? Seriously, when my allergies are bad, which is thankfully rare these days, the real Sudafed is pretty much the only thing that keeps me away from bronchitis. |
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I don’t know how much meth a single box of broc-aid makes but I’m on another list.
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Because there is no lobby or group pushing for it. Sheep have gotten use to showing id to get it.
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People love their regulations.
Same reason you cant buy fireworks anymore in a lot of places. |
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I need the tripolodine HCL that's in the old Actifed formula. I really don't need the sudafed that's with it.
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I often wondered why these methheads didn't just grow some Ephedra plants and get the real deal without being on any list or risking going to pharmacies.
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That bronkaid stuff works really good on asthma in a pinch.. kinda the only thing that works over the counter... pretty handy.
Our government sucks dick... just snatch that away from people and disappear real pain medication for everyone, all in the name helping dopers.. Great idea assholes, the dopers are living in misery so you will too! |
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I could be wrong but I think that’s on the isle up here.
My allergies went away when I left California so can’t say for sure. |
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Quoted: It’s not for sale where i live, so whenever i visit the States, I max out my allowable 9 grams/month to support my ECA stack regimen. I’m on a list. View Quote @llanero That's exactly why I buy Primatene, for the ECA stack. It's awesome. If not for banning things what would the FUCKSTICKS in GOVT have to do? Their ony job is to destroy and punish. |
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I used to take ephedrine for road trips. I think it was yellow jacket or something.
Shit fucking worked. Way better than caffeine. |
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Does anyone do meth anymore? It’s all spike and Molly around here followed by heroin.
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Quoted: Because pseudoephedrine is cheap and effective, and it's timely use can prevent minor problems from escalation into major health issues. Can't have cheap effective over the counter medicine, can we? Seriously, when my allergies are bad, which is thankfully rare these days, the real Sudafed is pretty much the only thing that keeps me away from bronchitis. View Quote I always keep a box on hand. I used to get sinus infections once a year but knowing how to treat a bad cold or allergies and blocked sinuses before an infection starts has prevented them for many years now. Usually I only need to take them one or two days so I can get saline mist up there and I’m good. Get over colds a lot quicker too. |
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I always ask for the Sudafed that can make meth at the pharmacy. If the law is stupid, I'm gonna make it audibly stupid.
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Quoted: I could be wrong but I think that’s on the isle up here. My allergies went away when I left California so can’t say for sure. View Quote It is but it’s not the same medicine and it doesn’t do anything, it’s phenylephrine not pseudoephedrine. You have to ask for the real stuff and they scan your drivers license. |
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The government is very good at spending money on solving problems that may or may not exist. The government almost never spends any money on seeing if anything they've done has actually made a difference.
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Quoted: The government is very good at spending money on solving problems that may or may not exist. The government almost never spends any money on seeing if anything they've done has actually made a difference. View Quote I got codeine cough syrup once in my 20s when I had a bad cold. It was freaking magic. My dad said back in the day you could just ask the pharmacist for it. That makes sense to me, discretion keeps the licensed guy from giving you 87 gallons of codeine, regular people can get effective cough syrup. The addicts would find a way around it as they always do |
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Quoted: It is but it’s not the same medicine and it doesn’t do anything, it’s phenylephrine not pseudoephedrine. You have to ask for the real stuff and they scan your drivers license. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I could be wrong but I think that’s on the isle up here. My allergies went away when I left California so can’t say for sure. It is but it’s not the same medicine and it doesn’t do anything, it’s phenylephrine not pseudoephedrine. You have to ask for the real stuff and they scan your drivers license. Another absurd result of this absurd law: selling phenylphrine to do something that it literally does not do. https://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddisalvo/2015/10/26/the-popular-over-the-counter-cold-medicine-that-science-says-doesnt-work/amp/ |
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In Washington you are put in their database using your drivers license and regulated as to how much you can buy.
Been going on for years in this great socialist disaster Pick up that can serf. |
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They also fucked up inhalers in the name of the ozone or some shit... now you damn near rip your balls off trying to get a decent drag off one.
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Quoted: With the demise of the small domestic meth lab due to the cartels perfecting processing operations and economies of scale, why is the Combat Methamphetamine Epidemic Act of 2005 still on the books? No one is smurfing bronkaid to make meth anymore; thanks to the mexicans the drug is cheaper than it's ever been and available in higher purity than all but the most dedicated basement lab would ever be able to provide. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/25010/1DDEE856-0740-43F4-AA89-4EAEF77DF9CD_jpe-2700058.JPG The stupid law didn't do squat anyway; you can see that in Missouri, lab busts went up after the passage of the law and never came back down until the cartels dominated the scene. So, honest question: Why is a law that never functioned to combat the problem for which it was created, and whose sole reason for existence is now gone, still on the books? View Quote Control. |
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Quoted: It is but it’s not the same medicine and it doesn’t do anything, it’s phenylephrine not pseudoephedrine. You have to ask for the real stuff and they scan your drivers license. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: I could be wrong but I think that’s on the isle up here. My allergies went away when I left California so can’t say for sure. It is but it’s not the same medicine and it doesn’t do anything, it’s phenylephrine not pseudoephedrine. You have to ask for the real stuff and they scan your drivers license. Ah thanks, I did t know there was another kind. I always got Sudafed for allergies. |
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Quoted: Because pseudoephedrine is cheap and effective, and it's timely use can prevent minor problems from escalation into major health issues. Can't have cheap effective over the counter medicine, can we? Seriously, when my allergies are bad, which is thankfully rare these days, the real Sudafed is pretty much the only thing that keeps me away from bronchitis. View Quote This |
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the government is very good at telling your family doctor what he can or cannot provide
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There is nothing so permanent as a temporary government program.
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Quoted: Because pseudoephedrine is cheap and effective, and it's timely use can prevent minor problems from escalation into major health issues. Can't have cheap effective over the counter medicine, can we? Seriously, when my allergies are bad, which is thankfully rare these days, the real Sudafed is pretty much the only thing that keeps me away from bronchitis. View Quote Mine too: I only have one season to worry about, and it just runs from Jan 1st to Dec 31st |
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Quoted: Given a meth epidemic or fentanyl, I choose meth. At least we can get some work out them before they die. View Quote Stupid pick. Take the fentanyl every time. People on blues just keel over and nod off. Meth melts the brain, and you wind up with all sorts of craziness. Zombie attacks, fucking animals, setting things on fire, and generally being missionaries for the Chaos Gods from the Warp. Waaaay more methheads wind up needing shootin' during their antics than fentanyl addicts ever get up to. |
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Quoted: Stupid pick. Take the fentanyl every time. People on blues just keel over and nod off. Meth melts the brain, and you wind up with all sorts of craziness. Zombie attacks, fucking animals, setting things on fire, and generally being missionaries for the Chaos Gods from the Warp. Waaaay more methheads wind up needing shootin' during their antics than fentanyl addicts ever get up to. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Given a meth epidemic or fentanyl, I choose meth. At least we can get some work out them before they die. Stupid pick. Take the fentanyl every time. People on blues just keel over and nod off. Meth melts the brain, and you wind up with all sorts of craziness. Zombie attacks, fucking animals, setting things on fire, and generally being missionaries for the Chaos Gods from the Warp. Waaaay more methheads wind up needing shootin' during their antics than fentanyl addicts ever get up to. Having managed restaurants in the past, I can say that methheads are among the group of workers i would never hire. I would do the job myself or close the doors before having to hire a methhead. Just too violent and unpredictable (except for the fact that they will, without fail, 100% of the time, every time, no exceptions, end up fucking you and the enterprise over). |
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Quoted: Better question... How many different laws fall into the category described above; both useless and obsolete? I bet the number is astronomical. Congress should be forced to do a complete audit of every law on the books before they can make any more new laws. They should be forced to delete five obsolete laws for every new law they want to pass. View Quote Government has fucked up toilets, water heaters, air conditioners, gasohol, detergents, alkaline batteries, cold medicine, paint, paint strippers, adhesives, weed killers, light bulbs, just off the top of my head. And it’s never enough. The advocacy groups are always looking for the next fear fulcrum. |
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Quoted: It is but it's not the same medicine and it doesn't do anything, it's phenylephrine not pseudoephedrine. You have to ask for the real stuff and they scan your drivers license. View Quote |
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