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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:21:14 PM EST
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I saw water running in one of the pics. So guess the fire suppression system did it's job. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:23:58 PM EST
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Just general info, not aimed directly at you: The aircraft crashed into a business named See Water, not into a air force warehouse. F-16s carry hydrazine, and it could be leaking. The base fuel shop will handle that response/cleanup in coordination with fire response. Even if the AC had only dummy warheads, there are still explosives in the external wink tank pylons (if so configured) and possibly flares. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Surprising yet fortunate, no big bada boom, no fire, and the wreckage is very well contained in a very small and also very secure area. In fact, it's all indoors! In a secured warehouse in a secured military installation. Conditions could not be a lot better for crash investigators. I feel sorrier for the warehouse crew than the crew that'll have to handle the EOD issues. And on top of all that, the broken water piping in the ceiling could only have helped to keep things cool. I'm guessing it pancaked into the roof. And probably not from a great altitude. The aircraft crashed into a business named See Water, not into a air force warehouse. F-16s carry hydrazine, and it could be leaking. The base fuel shop will handle that response/cleanup in coordination with fire response. Even if the AC had only dummy warheads, there are still explosives in the external wink tank pylons (if so configured) and possibly flares. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:24:18 PM EST
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Like it ran out of fuel ???
I hope not. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:24:27 PM EST
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Hydrazine will ruin you day. What does the aircraft use the Hydrazine for? |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:24:30 PM EST
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:24:52 PM EST
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Hydrazine will ruin you day. What does the aircraft use the Hydrazine for? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Surprising yet fortunate, no big bada boom, no fire, and the wreckage is very well contained in a very small and also very secure area. In fact, it's all indoors! In a secured warehouse in a secured military installation. Conditions could not be a lot better for crash investigators. I feel sorrier for the warehouse crew than the crew that'll have to handle the EOD issues. And on top of all that, the broken water piping in the ceiling could only have helped to keep things cool. I'm guessing it pancaked into the roof. And probably not from a great altitude. The aircraft crashed into a business named See Water, not into a air force warehouse. F-16s carry hydrazine, and it could be leaking. The base fuel shop will handle that response/cleanup in coordination with fire response. Even if the AC had only dummy warheads, there are still explosives in the external wink tank pylons (if so configured) and possibly flares. It is some real nasty shit. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:25:53 PM EST
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:26:22 PM EST
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There’s only 1 March ARB and it’s right next to the 1 I-215 here in California. Kind of narrows it down. That viper not causing an explosion and fire? Wow! |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:26:25 PM EST
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The APU I think Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hydrazine will ruin you day. What does the aircraft use the Hydrazine for? |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:28:54 PM EST
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Just asked the google. It's for the EPU. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hydrazine will ruin you day. What does the aircraft use the Hydrazine for? Emergency Power Unit. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:29:32 PM EST
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:29:36 PM EST
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Just asked the google. It's for the EPU. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:30:34 PM EST
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EOD is there.
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:31:57 PM EST
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Just asked the google. It's for the EPU. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Hydrazine will ruin you day. What does the aircraft use the Hydrazine for? (I work on hydrazine systems and spill responses) |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:33:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Correct EPU, not APU. Hydrazine is only used in emergencies to provide hydro and gen. It is not used for ground maintenance of any type as some APUs on other aircraft (such as the A-10). (I work on hydrazine systems and spill responses) |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:34:11 PM EST
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It crashed just before the green down at the bottom. It could have easily taken out the museum just above the green across the freeway. An SR-71 is parked there.
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:34:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Correct EPU, not APU. Hydrazine is only used in emergencies to provide hydro and gen. It is not used for ground maintenance of any type as some APUs on other aircraft (such as the A-10). (I work on hydrazine systems and spill responses) 
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:36:04 PM EST
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So how do you handle this kind of spill? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Correct EPU, not APU. Hydrazine is only used in emergencies to provide hydro and gen. It is not used for ground maintenance of any type as some APUs on other aircraft (such as the A-10). (I work on hydrazine systems and spill responses)
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:37:39 PM EST
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So what you're saying is that you're glad you're stationed in Korea, rather than March ARB. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Correct EPU, not APU. Hydrazine is only used in emergencies to provide hydro and gen. It is not used for ground maintenance of any type as some APUs on other aircraft (such as the A-10). (I work on hydrazine systems and spill responses) 
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:39:43 PM EST
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jesus
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:40:01 PM EST
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So how do you handle this kind of spill? Flush solid surfaces/objects and dilute with water. Chemically neutralize. Put every last thing that was contaminated into barrels and ship it off for some other guy to deal with. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:41:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stop/contain leak/spread if possible. Flush solid surfaces/objects and dilute with water. Chemically neutralize. Put every last thing that was contaminated into barrels and ship it off for some other guy to deal with. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:41:58 PM EST
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Not surprising I guess.
They are reporting that it is leaking hydrazine. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:43:32 PM EST
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Would this be done while covered head to toe in a safety suit? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Stop/contain leak/spread if possible. Flush solid surfaces/objects and dilute with water. Chemically neutralize. Put every last thing that was contaminated into barrels and ship it off for some other guy to deal with. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:44:18 PM EST
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I figured that and an SCBA. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:44:30 PM EST
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Facebook video from inside the warehouse (same guy that took the pic).
https://www.facebook.com/jeff.schoffstall/videos/pcb.2450136231698130/2450123181699435/?type=3&theater |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:45:16 PM EST
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Facebook video from inside the warehouse (same guy that took the pic). https://www.facebook.com/jeff.schoffstall/videos/pcb.2450136231698130/2450123181699435/?type=3&theater |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:46:06 PM EST
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His day was worse than mine. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Facebook video from inside the warehouse (same guy that took the pic). https://www.facebook.com/jeff.schoffstall/videos/pcb.2450136231698130/2450123181699435/?type=3&theater 
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:46:12 PM EST
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:46:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They can now put an aircraft kill mark on their front door. 
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:47:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They can now put an aircraft kill mark on their front door. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:47:54 PM EST
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They can now put an aircraft kill mark on their front door. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Facebook video from inside the warehouse (same guy that took the pic). https://www.facebook.com/jeff.schoffstall/videos/pcb.2450136231698130/2450123181699435/?type=3&theater
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:47:57 PM EST
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:48:03 PM EST
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Would this be done while covered head to toe in a safety suit? |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:48:45 PM EST
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:49:13 PM EST
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Helicopter reporter is saying three minor injuries taken to the hospital.
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:49:56 PM EST
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They can get a tax deduction in CA for the new skylight. Quote HistoryQuoted:
They can get a tax deduction in CA for the new skylight. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:50:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, full suit with SCBA. Fireman's boots. We rotate as needed for air or heat/exhaustion etc. Even after securing the AC and the fuel container cleanup can take days or longer. Even contaminated dirt or porous structure sometimes has to be removed. If the suits leak, the poor bastards get hosed naked with fire hoses. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:50:49 PM EST
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Sounds like a long hard day. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Yes, full suit with SCBA. Fireman's boots. We rotate as needed for air or heat/exhaustion etc. Even after securing the AC and the fuel container cleanup can take days or longer. Even contaminated dirt or porous structure sometimes has to be removed. If the suits leak, the poor bastards get hosed naked with fire hoses. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:51:02 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its now a green building, Its a solar conversion. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:51:10 PM EST
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Can you imagine sitting at your desk there and a freakin' F16 comes in to say hello? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Can you imagine sitting at your desk there and a freakin' F16 comes in to say hello? Glad nobody was killed. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:53:28 PM EST
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Feel bad for anyone that was on the shitter. Glad nobody was killed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can you imagine sitting at your desk there and a freakin' F16 comes in to say hello? Glad nobody was killed.
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:53:54 PM EST
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Feel bad for anyone that was on the shitter. Glad nobody was killed. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Can you imagine sitting at your desk there and a freakin' F16 comes in to say hello? Glad nobody was killed.
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:54:20 PM EST
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Does the pilot get a new call sign?
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:55:52 PM EST
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Does the pilot get a new call sign?
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:56:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Since he crashed into 'SEE Water" Thay can call him "Skipper" Or "Splash". |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:56:54 PM EST
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I was about 0.75 miles from the runway, about 1.25 miles from the crash when it happened. The cops, fire trucks, and ambulances all rushed there and then in a bit came back as the military took over. The F-16s sortie out here from LAX while on Combat Air Patrol for the west coast. |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:57:12 PM EST
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I was thinking Holes |
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:58:24 PM EST
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The 15 freeway was closed in both directions so traffic is tearing up the side roads now.
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Posted: 5/16/2019 7:58:36 PM EST
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I was about 0.75 miles from the runway, about 1.25 miles from the crash when it happened. The cops, fire trucks, and ambulances all rushed there and then in a bit came back as the military took over. The F-16s sortie out here from LAX while on Combat Air Patrol for the west coast. |
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