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Link Posted: 12/12/2015 7:53:06 AM EST
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Has anyone tried sending back a 511 yet?
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I did. 511 N cell, Nov 2008 purchase date. RMA request sent the night before last and approved yesterday morning.
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 8:42:54 AM EST
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I did. 511 N cell, Nov 2008 purchase date. RMA request sent the night before last and approved yesterday morning.
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I did. 511 N cell, Nov 2008 purchase date. RMA request sent the night before last and approved yesterday morning.


Heck, I got an RMA for a 551 manufactured in 2003. The 551, unlike the 511, is discontinued. If they'll approve a refund on a 12 year old, discontinued sight, I can't imagine they'd deny one on a model they still produce.
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 1:55:58 PM EST
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My 516 fades when reticle is n upper left corner. If send it in will they fix it or just write me a check?
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 2:05:39 PM EST
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I just submitted a return form for the same problem with my 512. I didn't write in the notes that I want a refund but I'll be sure to clarify before I send anything in. I'm not looking to spend more money to repair this when I don't really want it.
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 2:17:50 PM EST
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Submitted refund request Wednesday night.  Received green light approval this morning.  No questions asked.  No receipt required.

Will likely get it shipped out early next week.
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So what do you expect in a refund? Do you expect full MSRP?
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 2:46:20 PM EST
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Link Posted: 12/12/2015 3:13:29 PM EST
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Requested Refund for 512 on 12/12/2015 (Saturday)

RMA Approval Received via email on 12/14/2015 (Monday)

Will add details as they become available.

Will be replacing with Aimpoint PRO or Meprolight True Dot unless someone recommends a better optic for a guy with 20/400 eyesight, no astigmatism.

Sent April 21 and received April 25 by L3/Eotech

Check received on 6/6/2016.
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 3:44:13 PM EST
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I just submitted $539 for my 516, fuck em.
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 3:52:02 PM EST
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If EOTech remains, they might create a sight that would be far more durable and capable than their current models. I honestly hope they will do so, as I like their reticle pattern and lack of tint on the lens.
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I would like to see that too. I hated sending mine off but it's my only optic and I just don't want performance questions for that kind of money. I'd be wide open to it in the future if they rework their stuff and put out something truly solid.
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 3:54:49 PM EST
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I would like to see that too. I hated sending mine off but it's my only optic and I just don't want performance questions for that kind of money. I'd be wide open to it in the future if they rework their stuff and put out something truly solid.
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I would like to see that too. I hated sending mine off but it's my only optic and I just don't want performance questions for that kind of money. I'd be wide open to it in the future if they rework their stuff and put out something truly solid.




 
Yup. I hope they can fix themselves and grow out of this. I always liked EOtech's large window and I preferred their aperture over the Aimpoint's dot.
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 3:55:50 PM EST
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I would like to see that too. I hated sending mine off but it's my only optic and I just don't want performance questions for that kind of money. I'd be wide open to it in the future if they rework their stuff and put out something truly solid.
How could you ever again trust a company that spent a decade actively lying and covering up critical flaws in their products?

 
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 4:05:53 PM EST
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If EOTech remains, they might create a sight that would be far more durable and capable than their current models. I honestly hope they will do so, as I like their reticle pattern and lack of tint on the lens.


I would like to see that too. I hated sending mine off but it's my only optic and I just don't want performance questions for that kind of money. I'd be wide open to it in the future if they rework their stuff and put out something truly solid.
How could you ever again trust a company that spent a decade actively lying and covering up critical flaws in their products?  


After all of this I'd assume any products they may release in the future will be scrutinized to the highest degree from the outside. It's not something I would jump right on but if word did come down that they were in fact good to go I'd be open to another one.
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 4:31:10 PM EST
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If EOTech remains, they might create a sight that would be far more durable and capable than their current models. I honestly hope they will do so, as I like their reticle pattern and lack of tint on the lens.


I would like to see that too. I hated sending mine off but it's my only optic and I just don't want performance questions for that kind of money. I'd be wide open to it in the future if they rework their stuff and put out something truly solid.
How could you ever again trust a company that spent a decade actively lying and covering up critical flaws in their products?  

1: Fire, every, single, person involved in that unethical behavior. Publicize it. Push for criminal charges. Sue them for causing this.

2: Submit large batches of their new sights to rigorous independent third party testing. Have the results published by said third party.

3: Lifetime no questions asked warranty.
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 6:43:33 PM EST
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4. Personal apology from the CEO to everyone who wants one.


Link Posted: 12/12/2015 6:47:45 PM EST
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Can anyone post the parallax specifications for the EOTechs?

L3 has long stated their optics have a 12 MOA parallax error, but this is at 10 yards, or thereabouts.  Which is true of any RDS or holographic, regardless of temperature or humidity.  Furthermore, the nominal parallax error of the EOTech is going to be inherently larger than that of an Aimpoint simply because of its wider field of view.

The court filing leaves out critical information.  That's just the nature of court filings, but in this case they seem to awkwardly step around spelling out the specification EOTech failed to meet.
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 6:50:53 PM EST
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I love eotech and defended them before.....


Not anymore. Fuck them.
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Link Posted: 12/12/2015 8:43:39 PM EST
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Shit I have an EXPS3-2  and could  hit a 9" plate at 500 yards with it 8 out of 10 and in the last 6 mo. have had 2 zero shifts of about 3 MOA, I really liked this sight but I guess I will send it in. I think the Mepro is a not very close second for this type of sight. Any other sights compare to these?
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 9:33:41 PM EST
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Well, I filled out 2 requests, one 511.A65 and a XPS2. I haven't had any issues with either, except with battery life in the 511. I just don't trust them any more.
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 10:04:32 PM EST
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So is every single eotech ever manufactured subject to the problems outlined in the OP?
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 10:08:03 PM EST
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Would it be unethical of me to send in my XPS2 that I got used for like $280 and get a refund for MSRP?
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 10:11:00 PM EST
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Would it be unethical of me to send in my XPS2 that I got used for like $280 and get a refund for MSRP?
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Probably.

I have a 512 with unknown origins from a .mil aquatince. Haven't done it, works fine. Kind of want a pro.

Sigh

I guess some guys are still paying off cc debt from the last panic.
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 10:14:55 PM EST
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Probably.

I have a 512 with unknown origins from a .mil aquatince. Haven't done it, works fine. Kind of want a pro.

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I guess some guys are still paying off cc debt from the last panic.
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Would it be unethical of me to send in my XPS2 that I got used for like $280 and get a refund for MSRP?


Probably.

I have a 512 with unknown origins from a .mil aquatince. Haven't done it, works fine. Kind of want a pro.

Sigh

I guess some guys are still paying off cc debt from the last panic.

Yeah I'm not going to do it.  But I'd be lying if I didn't consider sending in my used sight, getting the refund, then just buying a new XPS with it  I like EOtechs, hopefully this isn't the end of them and they move on to creating a better product.
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 10:31:53 PM EST
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Yeah I'm not going to do it.  But I'd be lying if I didn't consider sending in my used sight, getting the refund, then just buying a new XPS with it  I like EOtechs, hopefully this isn't the end of them and they move on to creating a better product.
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Probably.

I have a 512 with unknown origins from a .mil aquatince. Haven't done it, works fine. Kind of want a pro.

Sigh

I guess some guys are still paying off cc debt from the last panic.

Yeah I'm not going to do it.  But I'd be lying if I didn't consider sending in my used sight, getting the refund, then just buying a new XPS with it  I like EOtechs, hopefully this isn't the end of them and they move on to creating a better product.


It's not a matter of used or new. The entire design has been deemed flawed therefore all HWS models are due for refund. Their CEO lied and was caught in that lie. If it were any other product, people would be out wanting blood and waving torches and pitchforks. To each his own I guess. Free country still.
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 10:47:38 PM EST
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Are you trying to tell us you stole an ACOG from the military, or do you really have an uncle named 'Sam?'
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I've actually broken more ACOGs than EoTechs.





Should we burn them to the ground, too?


The ACOG I had in Afghanistan was a gift from Uncle Sam and it is still rocking along solid as ever and still in use on my go to gun.


Are you trying to tell us you stole an ACOG from the military, or do you really have an uncle named 'Sam?'


Not stolen at all. The Army made it impossible for me to turn in.
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 11:45:18 PM EST
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FWIW I looked at an MRO today.  It's a damn nice sight.  Crisp dot & decent FOV.  I'm probably going to go with this as a replacement.
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 11:51:50 PM EST
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I think so
Link Posted: 12/12/2015 11:54:19 PM EST
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I don't know if I want a voucher for another eotech. I'll wait until I hear about people getting check refunds.
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Dude ALL of their sights are defective. They gonna give you a voucher to buy a new sight to send back? They do t have a flawless model. They are ALL defective. ALL of them.
Link Posted: 12/13/2015 12:38:28 AM EST
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Just sent mine back...sucks, loved it. I like the look of the Meprolight, but will prob order an Aimpoint Pro since I can't seem to find enough info on the durability/dependability of the Mepro.
Link Posted: 12/13/2015 12:42:40 AM EST
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Just sent mine back...sucks, loved it. I like the look of the Meprolight, but will prob order an Aimpoint Pro since I can't seem to find enough info on the durability/dependability of the Mepro.
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Give the MRO a good look.  It's promising.
Link Posted: 12/13/2015 12:47:08 AM EST
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Give the MRO a good look.  It's promising.
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Just sent mine back...sucks, loved it. I like the look of the Meprolight, but will prob order an Aimpoint Pro since I can't seem to find enough info on the durability/dependability of the Mepro.



Give the MRO a good look.  It's promising.
This is where my mind is at right now too.

















...Meanwhile, countless vendors are out there still selling brand new Eotechs, which are acknowledged to be flawed right out of the box.

 

 
Link Posted: 12/13/2015 12:53:28 AM EST
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I was skeptical till I got my hands on one.  They seem legit.
Link Posted: 12/13/2015 12:53:33 AM EST
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Give the MRO a good look.  It's promising.
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Just sent mine back...sucks, loved it. I like the look of the Meprolight, but will prob order an Aimpoint Pro since I can't seem to find enough info on the durability/dependability of the Mepro.

Give the MRO a good look.  It's promising.


I don't know.....it looks kinda funky to me. Just doesn't look right.
Link Posted: 12/13/2015 12:55:04 AM EST
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I don't know.....it looks kinda funky to me. Just doesn't look right.
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Just sent mine back...sucks, loved it. I like the look of the Meprolight, but will prob order an Aimpoint Pro since I can't seem to find enough info on the durability/dependability of the Mepro.

Give the MRO a good look.  It's promising.


I don't know.....it looks kinda funky to me. Just doesn't look right.

For guys that really loved the EoTech I think this as as good as it gets right now.
Link Posted: 12/13/2015 1:02:43 AM EST
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For guys that really loved the EoTech I think this as as good as it gets right now.
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Just sent mine back...sucks, loved it. I like the look of the Meprolight, but will prob order an Aimpoint Pro since I can't seem to find enough info on the durability/dependability of the Mepro.

Give the MRO a good look.  It's promising.


I don't know.....it looks kinda funky to me. Just doesn't look right.

For guys that really loved the EoTech I think this as as good as it gets right now.


Why? I don't see any similarities to the EO.....am I missing something?
Link Posted: 12/13/2015 1:07:11 AM EST
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Better FOV then then the aimpoint micro's, Trijicon reliability, reasonable price.  I want to like the other stuff that mimics the EoTechs, but their name isn't as proven.
Link Posted: 12/13/2015 1:16:24 AM EST
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Better FOV then then the aimpoint micro's, Trijicon reliability, reasonable price.  I want to like the other stuff that mimics the EoTechs, but their name isn't as proven.
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Trijicons name isn't proven?




Lol
Link Posted: 12/13/2015 1:24:45 AM EST
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  Trijicons name isn't proven?


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  Trijicons name isn't proven?


Lol


I think he meant the other brands (like Meprolight) that mimic Eotech. He is recommending the Triji MRO
Link Posted: 12/13/2015 1:26:20 AM EST
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I think he meant the other brands (like Meprolight) that mimic Eotech. He is recommending the Triji MRO
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  Trijicons name isn't proven?


Lol


I think he meant the other brands (like Meprolight) that mimic Eotech. He is recommending the Triji MRO

Yes, this.
Link Posted: 12/13/2015 1:29:42 AM EST
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I filled out a return form earlier but just told them about my dead spot in the fov, nothing about a refund.

Should I just fill out another form and state that I want a refund? I haven't heard anything from them about my submission.
Link Posted: 12/13/2015 1:30:27 AM EST
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...Meanwhile, countless vendors are out there still selling brand new Eotechs, which are acknowledged to be flawed right out of the box.  

Talk about unethical. Just checked and the company I bought mine from is still selling the EOtechs and the custom mounts/ hoods. Nice.
I really did like it. Cool scope caps with Front toward Enemy and all. Never a bit of a problem... Yet
Link Posted: 12/13/2015 2:14:40 AM EST
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Got my RMA yesterday, sent my XPS2 in today. Hated to do it. Had the optic on a S&W .460. I had no trouble ringing 8" steel at over 100 yds. offhand.

However, with two sons in the military and zero tolerance for liars, it had to go. Will update when/if the refund shows.
Link Posted: 12/13/2015 8:28:48 AM EST
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Heres a picture of a refund check that was posted on AR15GOA facebook page. After seeing this i am glad I haven't sent my eotech back, gonna wait for others to recieve refunds to confirm first.
Link Posted: 12/13/2015 8:36:50 AM EST
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If the above is true, I'm going to be pissed.
Link Posted: 12/13/2015 8:37:58 AM EST
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If the above is true, I'm going to be pissed.
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Heres a picture of a refund check that was posted on AR15GOA facebook page. After seeing this i am glad I haven't sent my eotech back, gonna wait for others to recieve refunds to confirm first.


If the above is true, I'm going to be pissed.

It's a joke.
Link Posted: 12/13/2015 8:39:16 AM EST
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Hilarious to see the whiners who are sad they no longer have a "tier 1" sight and are trying to defend it.

To the guys getting the refunds, welcome to the Aimpoint/Trijicon master race!
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It's a joke.
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Heres a picture of a refund check that was posted on AR15GOA facebook page. After seeing this i am glad I haven't sent my eotech back, gonna wait for others to recieve refunds to confirm first.


If the above is true, I'm going to be pissed.

It's a joke.


I hope you're right.
Link Posted: 12/13/2015 8:46:28 AM EST
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It's a joke.
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Heres a picture of a refund check that was posted on AR15GOA facebook page. After seeing this i am glad I haven't sent my eotech back, gonna wait for others to recieve refunds to confirm first.


If the above is true, I'm going to be pissed.

It's a joke.


Do you have proof? I havent seen a picture of a single refund check yet.
Link Posted: 12/13/2015 8:54:30 AM EST
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Exactly. Nobody has received anything yet.
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