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Posted: 1/18/2016 8:38:46 PM EST
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This was from yesterday. Looks like some guys are still using them. "When you know your shit is broke but you still trust it more than an aimpoint......" 
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/1202/1579/4m/i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/01/16/14/3038C48200000578-3401845-image-a-57_1452953059058.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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How did none of these issues come out during SOCOM testing. SOCOM does test the stuff they issue right? This was from yesterday. Looks like some guys are still using them. "When you know your shit is broke but you still trust it more than an aimpoint......"
https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/1202/1579/4m/i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/01/16/14/3038C48200000578-3401845-image-a-57_1452953059058.jpg Geissele huh? Boner Achieved. |
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Posted: 1/18/2016 8:42:08 PM EST
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Well, Bye!! Being shipped off tomorrow or Wednesday. They approved the EXPS3-4 and G23 combo for a refund ($1,180). That means I can get a T-2 with mount from Larue for my SBR build and the 16" these came off of will probably get some kind of Vortex 1-4 or something. Good things come to those who wait right?? 
<a href="http://s15.photobucket.com/user/dragtillidie/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160118_202319_zpsxpgxazx7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a378/dragtillidie/Mobile%20Uploads/20160118_202319_zpsxpgxazx7.jpg</a> What took you so long? You guys got those emails which gave me enough hope. 
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Posted: 1/18/2016 8:43:58 PM EST
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You guys got those emails which gave me enough hope. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, Bye!! Being shipped off tomorrow or Wednesday. They approved the EXPS3-4 and G23 combo for a refund ($1,180). That means I can get a T-2 with mount from Larue for my SBR build and the 16" these came off of will probably get some kind of Vortex 1-4 or something. Good things come to those who wait right??
<a href="http://s15.photobucket.com/user/dragtillidie/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160118_202319_zpsxpgxazx7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a378/dragtillidie/Mobile%20Uploads/20160118_202319_zpsxpgxazx7.jpg</a> What took you so long? You guys got those emails which gave me enough hope. So when I''m running two new RDS after my $1,300 check arrives.....you will still be checking your inbox for a verification email?
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Posted: 1/18/2016 9:03:17 PM EST
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So when I''m running two new RDS after my $1,300 check arrives.....you will still be checking your inbox for a verification email? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Well, Bye!! Being shipped off tomorrow or Wednesday. They approved the EXPS3-4 and G23 combo for a refund ($1,180). That means I can get a T-2 with mount from Larue for my SBR build and the 16" these came off of will probably get some kind of Vortex 1-4 or something. Good things come to those who wait right??
<a href="http://s15.photobucket.com/user/dragtillidie/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160118_202319_zpsxpgxazx7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a378/dragtillidie/Mobile%20Uploads/20160118_202319_zpsxpgxazx7.jpg</a> What took you so long? You guys got those emails which gave me enough hope. So when I''m running two new RDS after my $1,300 check arrives.....you will still be checking your inbox for a verification email? 
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Posted: 1/19/2016 12:02:10 AM EST
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Time to watch THIS! EOTech cornered at SHOT Show...haha
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Posted: 1/19/2016 12:14:01 AM EST
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Posted: 1/19/2016 12:17:58 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Time to watch THIS! EOTech cornered at SHOT Show...haha http://youtu.be/wMHvkjMQMyg  |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 12:20:14 AM EST
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I would loooove to know the ratio of refund requests vs exchange requests. 100:1?
I mean, it's not like EOtech is saying "yeah, we found the problem and fixed it, new sights are good to go at any temp on earth!"...
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Posted: 1/19/2016 12:41:39 AM EST
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I would loooove to know the ratio of refund requests vs exchange requests. 100:1? I mean, it's not like EOtech is saying "yeah, we found the problem and fixed it, new sights are good to go at any temp on earth!"...I would be VERY surprised if there are any exchanges made. Even if people like them, they will take the MSRP refund and turn around and buy one on sale. |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 12:45:42 AM EST
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I would loooove to know the ratio of refund requests vs exchange requests. 100:1? I mean, it's not like EOtech is saying "yeah, we found the problem and fixed it, new sights are good to go at any temp on earth!"...It's adorable that they are mentioning exchange requests. I was happy to return my EOTech 512 with delamination issues for a refund, however, I was more than reluctant to return my 2015 XPS2, so I carefully worded my submission to them, and made it clear I would rather keep it if it was not impacted, or if there was an alternative. Instead, I received a canned email reply just the same as my defective 512. So both were sent back. I guess if they are going to stick around after this I MIGHT consider getting another one...but it seems strange they wouldn't be looking into revisions to correct the flaws they kept under wraps all this time. On second thought, maybe it's time for a Trijicon MRO...lol. How best to pick from flawed optics?!
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Posted: 1/19/2016 12:49:52 AM EST
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Watching that video I could've probably lived with one of my XPS3's because I am a huge fan of the ring for QCB
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Posted: 1/19/2016 12:57:58 AM EST
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Watching that video I could've probably lived with one of my XPS3's because I am a huge fan of the ring for QCB But then again why take a risk, IDK. I agree. Maybe some straight forward honest answers would help, but then again...would they be taken as honest answers? I loved my XPS2 and still am at a loss in finding a replacement optic for my SBR. I want to replace it with a "fixed" EOTech, but maybe they are what they are at this point... |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 8:26:49 AM EST
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I like how he says they're become aware of an issue....they've apparently BEEN aware for quite a while. It's at least good to see the refund deal confirmed on video. Maybe some that have been hesitant to request the refund, or that have requested it and are waiting to send it, will feel more at ease trying to get their money back.
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Posted: 1/19/2016 8:31:15 AM EST
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I think Eotech will survive and that many people who sent theirs back will end up buying another one in the future. I sent mine back as soon as I heard about this........but I have to admit, I read many posts in this thread that went something like "sent mine back, have had it since 2000 and never had a problem", which got me to thinking.....15 years and never a problem is not bad for a 4-500 optic. I've already purchased a PRO but I think Eotech will survive.
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Posted: 1/19/2016 9:19:57 AM EST
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I would be VERY surprised if there are any exchanges made. Even if people like them, they will take the MSRP refund and turn around and buy one on sale. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I would loooove to know the ratio of refund requests vs exchange requests. 100:1? I mean, it's not like EOtech is saying "yeah, we found the problem and fixed it, new sights are good to go at any temp on earth!"...I would be VERY surprised if there are any exchanges made. Even if people like them, they will take the MSRP refund and turn around and buy one on sale. 
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Posted: 1/19/2016 9:49:42 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think Eotech will survive and that many people who sent theirs back will end up buying another one in the future. I sent mine back as soon as I heard about this........but I have to admit, I read many posts in this thread that went something like "sent mine back, have had it since 2000 and never had a problem", which got me to thinking.....15 years and never a problem is not bad for a 4-500 optic. I've already purchased a PRO but I think Eotech will survive. Me, I'm going with the no optics mindset. I'm done with them. I'll keep what I have but other than that. No need to buy more crap for shit that will sit in a safe. Iron sights and a white light is good enough for me. I'm not a Spec-Ops Bad Ass. I'm just a cop in FL that ain't SWAT or even Patrol anymore. |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 10:25:56 AM EST
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I wonder if EoTech will refurb these and start grouping them in lots for export to other governments
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Posted: 1/19/2016 10:46:50 AM EST
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Anyone else not get a follow up confirmation email from Eotech that their optic was received and being processed? Mine was delivered on 12/15/15.
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Posted: 1/19/2016 11:01:12 AM EST
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Eotech will survive because the amount of folks buying them have no clue. Walk into a Bass Pro Shops and they're still under glass being sold by staff that have no clue to customers that have no clue. Me, I'm going with the no optics mindset. I'm done with them. I'll keep what I have but other than that. No need to buy more crap for shit that will sit in a safe. Iron sights and a white light is good enough for me. I'm not a Spec-Ops Bad Ass. I'm just a cop in FL that ain't SWAT or even Patrol anymore. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think Eotech will survive and that many people who sent theirs back will end up buying another one in the future. I sent mine back as soon as I heard about this........but I have to admit, I read many posts in this thread that went something like "sent mine back, have had it since 2000 and never had a problem", which got me to thinking.....15 years and never a problem is not bad for a 4-500 optic. I've already purchased a PRO but I think Eotech will survive. Me, I'm going with the no optics mindset. I'm done with them. I'll keep what I have but other than that. No need to buy more crap for shit that will sit in a safe. Iron sights and a white light is good enough for me. I'm not a Spec-Ops Bad Ass. I'm just a cop in FL that ain't SWAT or even Patrol anymore. LaRue is still selling them. GT Distributors in Austin still have them on the shelf. |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 11:43:43 AM EST
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I think Eotech will survive and that many people who sent theirs back will end up buying another one in the future. I sent mine back as soon as I heard about this........but I have to admit, I read many posts in this thread that went something like "sent mine back, have had it since 2000 and never had a problem", which got me to thinking.....15 years and never a problem is not bad for a 4-500 optic. I've already purchased a PRO but I think Eotech will survive. Me, I'm going with the no optics mindset. I'm done with them. I'll keep what I have but other than that. No need to buy more crap for shit that will sit in a safe. Iron sights and a white light is good enough for me. I'm not a Spec-Ops Bad Ass. I'm just a cop in FL that ain't SWAT or even Patrol anymore. LaRue is still selling them. This should be an easy thing to get answered. Mark is relatively responsive on here. |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 2:32:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone else not get a follow up confirmation email from Eotech that their optic was received and being processed? Mine was delivered on 12/15/15. Hopefully that means a check in our near future. |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 2:55:49 PM EST
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Same, mine was received by them on 12/28.Hopefully that means a check in our near future. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Anyone else not get a follow up confirmation email from Eotech that their optic was received and being processed? Mine was delivered on 12/15/15. In the same boat. Mine received 12/11 and nothing so far. Trying to be patient |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 6:06:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This should be an easy thing to get answered. Mark is relatively responsive on here. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I think Eotech will survive and that many people who sent theirs back will end up buying another one in the future. I sent mine back as soon as I heard about this........but I have to admit, I read many posts in this thread that went something like "sent mine back, have had it since 2000 and never had a problem", which got me to thinking.....15 years and never a problem is not bad for a 4-500 optic. I've already purchased a PRO but I think Eotech will survive. Me, I'm going with the no optics mindset. I'm done with them. I'll keep what I have but other than that. No need to buy more crap for shit that will sit in a safe. Iron sights and a white light is good enough for me. I'm not a Spec-Ops Bad Ass. I'm just a cop in FL that ain't SWAT or even Patrol anymore. LaRue is still selling them. This should be an easy thing to get answered. Mark is relatively responsive on here. If you had EOTechs in your inventory what would you do? Sell them and make money or return them for the dealer cost that you paid and make nothing? |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 6:10:49 PM EST
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If you had EOTechs in your inventory what would you do? Sell them and make money or return them for the dealer cost that you paid and make nothing? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I think Eotech will survive and that many people who sent theirs back will end up buying another one in the future. I sent mine back as soon as I heard about this........but I have to admit, I read many posts in this thread that went something like "sent mine back, have had it since 2000 and never had a problem", which got me to thinking.....15 years and never a problem is not bad for a 4-500 optic. I've already purchased a PRO but I think Eotech will survive. Me, I'm going with the no optics mindset. I'm done with them. I'll keep what I have but other than that. No need to buy more crap for shit that will sit in a safe. Iron sights and a white light is good enough for me. I'm not a Spec-Ops Bad Ass. I'm just a cop in FL that ain't SWAT or even Patrol anymore. LaRue is still selling them. This should be an easy thing to get answered. Mark is relatively responsive on here. If you had EOTechs in your inventory what would you do? Sell them and make money or return them for the dealer cost that you paid and make nothing? ethics, how do they work? Does Mark (or whomever) not have a duty to provide quality gear to warfighters? Alternatively, why can't mark request MSRP for every fucking sight in his inventory? |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 6:16:50 PM EST
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ethics, how do they work? Does Mark (or whomever) not have a duty to provide quality gear to warfighters? Alternatively, why can't mark request MSRP for every fucking sight in his inventory? Is Mark, or anyone else, forcing people to buy their products? There's nothing unethical about selling products to people who want them. |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 6:34:16 PM EST
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mailed mine in dec 7th, tracking info says not found so i think they just created a shipping label or whatever but regardless, im very happy!
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Posted: 1/19/2016 6:44:29 PM EST
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Is Mark, or anyone else, forcing people to buy their products? There's nothing unethical about selling products to people who want them. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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ethics, how do they work? Does Mark (or whomever) not have a duty to provide quality gear to warfighters? Alternatively, why can't mark request MSRP for every fucking sight in his inventory? Is Mark, or anyone else, forcing people to buy their products? There's nothing unethical about selling products to people who want them. I guess that's true. And I apologize if my last post came off as an asshole. |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 6:51:08 PM EST
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mailed mine in dec 7th, tracking info says not found so i think they just created a shipping label or whatever but regardless, im very happy! <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s7.postimg.org/gw3edio8r/12576064_966611956719999_729640185_n.jpg</a> 
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Posted: 1/19/2016 7:30:14 PM EST
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mailed mine in dec 7th, tracking info says not found so i think they just created a shipping label or whatever but regardless, im very happy! <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s7.postimg.org/gw3edio8r/12576064_966611956719999_729640185_n.jpg</a> Shit yea!! Keep us posted when the tracking number works!! |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 7:37:25 PM EST
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So anybody got a check yet? Been sitting in my exp3 RA number over a month but leary to send it back. Fo or no?
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Posted: 1/19/2016 7:40:07 PM EST
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I always noticed impact to zero in winter vs summer and I always attributed that to ammo....that is until I put a Burris scope on one of my AR's....no shift. I had pulled my 512 off my AR a couple years ago and it was just sitting in the safe. I was happy to hear they were offering refunds, I sent mine back last week...I just hope I get my refund before they decide to stop sending checks.
I decided to purchase an Aimpoint PRO to put on my plinking AR....I always stayed away from the Aimpoints because of the large dots...I gotta say I really like the 1 moa dot of the Eotech.....too bad they always had battery leakage and sighting issues. I still have 2 Bushnell Holosights but oddly enough even though they share the same technology they don't suffer the impact shifts, both my Bushnell versions use N batteries....I wonder if that makes a difference? My oldest on is way one of these 
It's had a ton of shots through it on my various .44 mag revolvers and it keeps on ticking just fine....a set of batteries seems to last a lifetime in that one....compared to the newer version that suck right through a set of batteries. I wonder why that old one performs so well? |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 7:48:58 PM EST
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mailed mine in dec 7th, tracking info says not found so i think they just created a shipping label or whatever but regardless, im very happy! <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s7.postimg.org/gw3edio8r/12576064_966611956719999_729640185_n.jpg</a> Good sign! |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 8:38:48 PM EST
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If you had EOTechs in your inventory what would you do? Sell them and make money or return them for the dealer cost that you paid and make nothing? ethics, how do they work? Does Mark (or whomever) not have a duty to provide quality gear to warfighters? Alternatively, why can't mark request MSRP for every fucking sight in his inventory?[/quote] Ethics, how do they work?? |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 8:57:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I always noticed impact to zero in winter vs summer and I always attributed that to ammo....that is until I put a Burris scope on one of my AR's....no shift. I had pulled my 512 off my AR a couple years ago and it was just sitting in the safe. I was happy to hear they were offering refunds, I sent mine back last week...I just hope I get my refund before they decide to stop sending checks. I decided to purchase an Aimpoint PRO to put on my plinking AR....I always stayed away from the Aimpoints because of the large dots...I gotta say I really like the 1 moa dot of the Eotech.....too bad they always had battery leakage and sighting issues. I still have 2 Bushnell Holosights but oddly enough even though they share the same technology they don't suffer the impact shifts, both my Bushnell versions use N batteries....I wonder if that makes a difference? My oldest on is way one of these http://picturearchive.gunauction.com/297590/9100710/000_0622.jpg_thumbnail1.jpg It's had a ton of shots through it on my various .44 mag revolvers and it keeps on ticking just fine....a set of batteries seems to last a lifetime in that one....compared to the newer version that suck right through a set of batteries. I wonder why that old one performs so well? |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 9:01:14 PM EST
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Seems clear in the video that Eotech is still going to sell them so why would LaRue or any other stop selling them? Wanna know how many times I've gone shooting at -40? Never. I know this is not the same for everyone but that's not my concern, I'm talking me.
If the problem is exactly like described then I'd consider buying another at a reduced price for a CQB option. It was -2 hear today and the shift at that temp would not matter one bit if some guy broke into my house right now lol. |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 9:05:59 PM EST
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I've got an old old one that takes n-type batteries. Every time I take my gun out of the safe the batteries are dead, so I don't know if zero shifts or not.
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Posted: 1/19/2016 9:13:15 PM EST
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ethics, how do they work? Does Mark (or whomever) not have a duty to provide quality gear to warfighters? Alternatively, why can't mark request MSRP for every fucking sight in his inventory?[/quote] Ethics, how do they work?? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If you had EOTechs in your inventory what would you do? Sell them and make money or return them for the dealer cost that you paid and make nothing? ethics, how do they work? Does Mark (or whomever) not have a duty to provide quality gear to warfighters? Alternatively, why can't mark request MSRP for every fucking sight in his inventory?[/quote] Ethics, how do they work?? Right, exactly. If there's any question of ethics, THAT would be the one. |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 9:34:22 PM EST
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So are they actually going to pay msrp of the sight, because I have no idea what I paid for something 10 years ago.
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Posted: 1/19/2016 9:39:27 PM EST
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mailed mine in dec 7th, tracking info says not found so i think they just created a shipping label or whatever but regardless, im very happy! <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s7.postimg.org/gw3edio8r/12576064_966611956719999_729640185_n.jpg</a> Shit yea!! Keep us posted when the tracking number works!! Ditto! This is a great sign. |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 9:45:24 PM EST
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I've got an old old one that takes n-type batteries. Every time I take my gun out of the safe the batteries are dead, so I don't know if zero shifts or not. Yeah, I've got that one too... 
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Posted: 1/19/2016 9:50:50 PM EST
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Anyone else not get a follow up confirmation email from Eotech that their optic was received and being processed? Mine was delivered on 12/15/15. me |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 9:51:56 PM EST
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mailed mine in dec 7th, tracking info says not found so i think they just created a shipping label or whatever but regardless, im very happy! <a href="http://postimage.org/" target="_blank">http://s7.postimg.org/gw3edio8r/12576064_966611956719999_729640185_n.jpg</a> Mailed mine out the same day so we'll see. |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 10:17:56 PM EST
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Mailed mine on 12/8 so hopefully I am in line very soon as well!
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Posted: 1/19/2016 10:21:57 PM EST
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Good to see it all confirmed. Guy was def. prepared. Bet he's wondering what he'll be doing in a year.
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Time to watch THIS! EOTech cornered at SHOT Show...haha
http://youtu.be/wMHvkjMQMyg
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Posted: 1/19/2016 10:24:37 PM EST
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Anyone else not get a follow up confirmation email from Eotech that their optic was received and being processed? Mine was delivered on 12/15/15. me I got one. |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 10:32:12 PM EST
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Time to watch THIS! EOTech cornered at SHOT Show...haha
http://youtu.be/wMHvkjMQMyg
Selling EOtech's new variable optic scopes? I went looking for the damn thing.
I did find this, is it new? http://www.eotechinc.com/holographic-weapon-sights/laser-battery-cap |
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Posted: 1/19/2016 10:47:56 PM EST
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Mailed mine on 12/8 so hopefully I am in line very soon as well! Same here. Guess I'll keep an eye on the email for a notice and tracking number. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 7:29:08 AM EST
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Updated, more solid info from Primary and Secondary. Along with an FAQ regarding the problems and the refund.
Primary & Secondary has received exclusive information previously only available to L3 Communications employees. The documents below explain some of the product performance issues with EOTech holographic sights that have been long suspected by professional end-users, but have only recently come to be admitted as fact by L3 and EOTech. Topics covered in the memo that is republished below include: thermal shift, reticle fade, parallax, cold weather distortion; and a FAQ covering many of the questions regarding performance of the sights, which are affected, and refund issues. Of special note to our professional end-user readers, copies and results of all testing done to arrive at the technical data points published in the below memo can be made available to government agencies who request it from L3 Communications. https://primaryandsecondary.com/eotech-product-performance-issues/ |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 7:43:34 AM EST
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Updated, more solid info from Primary and Secondary. Along with an FAQ regarding the problems and the refund. https://primaryandsecondary.com/eotech-product-performance-issues/ Quote HistoryQuoted:
Updated, more solid info from Primary and Secondary. Along with an FAQ regarding the problems and the refund. Primary & Secondary has received exclusive information previously only available to L3 Communications employees. The documents below explain some of the product performance issues with EOTech holographic sights that have been long suspected by professional end-users, but have only recently come to be admitted as fact by L3 and EOTech. Topics covered in the memo that is republished below include: thermal shift, reticle fade, parallax, cold weather distortion; and a FAQ covering many of the questions regarding performance of the sights, which are affected, and refund issues. Of special note to our professional end-user readers, copies and results of all testing done to arrive at the technical data points published in the below memo can be made available to government agencies who request it from L3 Communications. https://primaryandsecondary.com/eotech-product-performance-issues/ Thanks for that. I was thinking that the problems originally noted were more than just reticle shift, but that's all the is being talked about here for the last however many weeks. "Yeah, I'll never shoot in -40 degrees, so why do I care?" Well, it's because they admitted to having more inherent design issues than just the temperature POA/POI shift...as noted above. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 8:31:51 AM EST
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tracking works. says it will be here monday. i bet the snow we got today (and what they say is coming over the next few days) fucks that up though.
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