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Link Posted: 2/14/2018 10:26:39 PM EST
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Makes me fucking pissed.

Add anger to pain that will never end...let some nancyboys wave their finger in your face, tell you what a bad person you are for using Kratom.

I hope they suffer the same thing, one day. Wouldn't wish this pain on anybody but those who wish it on me. Or wish that I was addicted to pharmaceutical-grade narcotics, instead.

What kind of cuckold that likes to watch his wife get railed by third world immigrants wishes his fellow patriot to have less freedom, less ability to function for his family, less pain?

Try waking up in tears and agony at 3 in the morning, sobbing so loud that it also wakes up your toddler kid sleeping next to you. Try explaining that to him.

Or try feeling yourself go over the edge of pharmaceutical addiction- knowing that you have to choose between pain and the kind of addiction that snowballs in to heroin use, no in-between.

Now imagine finding the cure to pain and pharmaceutical addiction, in a harmless fucking tree leaf. Now try to imagine someone taking it away from you because they "know better."

Try to fathom those same persons calling themselves "American."

They aren't. Kratom is fucking tea. Steal it from the American people, tax it to death...wait, you've heard that story before- right?
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The freedom-haters will just say "suck it up and take the pain"

I've already been through this with them
Link Posted: 2/14/2018 11:34:32 PM EST
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I'll bet the kind of kratom users who take it for pain are just average working people, they would never bring it up. You would never know.
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Quite the contrary. Kratom users are like Crossfit folks. They can't seem to shut up about it.
Link Posted: 2/14/2018 11:41:09 PM EST
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Quite the contrary. Kratom users are like Crossfit folks. They can't seem to shut up about it.
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Awkward question: If you don't like hearing what Kratom users might have to say- then what the fuck are you doing in a Kratom thread?

Let me guess: You want us to just zip it and accept laws created by a bureaucratic agency, right up the ass. No House, No Congress, No Votes, No dissent, Zero public education, No outcry- just STFU and lose our rights by the decision of a corrupt government agency. You must REALLY love it when ATF exercises their power and bans firearms, parts or ammunition without any input from our legislative branch or the American people. Because our freedom makes you really fucking butthurt.

You're the same guy who claimed I was an addict or a stoner for supporting Marijuana legalization.
I already called your bluff and proved my previous employment as a LEO/Firefighter in this thread.

Link Posted: 2/15/2018 12:00:05 AM EST
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why cant people just stop taking mind altering substances?

... o wait, thats right, people are weak.
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Nothing CoC comes to mind
Link Posted: 2/15/2018 12:07:46 AM EST
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Nothing CoC comes to mind
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Tell us how you really feel. I'm all ears.

Do you think caffeine, alcohol and nicotine users should be put down too?

What about the millions of people who are prescribed mind altering substances like opioid painkillers, benzodiazepine antidepressants and amphetamine stimulants?

Hell, let someone tell their kid's doctor that little Johnny has trouble focusing on schoolwork.

He'll have an Adderall (amphetamine) prescription faster than you can say "Pharmaceutical Cartel."
Link Posted: 2/15/2018 12:21:56 AM EST
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The freedom-haters will just say "suck it up and take the pain"

I've already been through this with them
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The Cognitive Dissonance is fucking scary in here.

Also seeing some Oppositional-Defiant Disorder in some people. You know those types who disagree simply for the sake of disagreement? You say red, they say blue- you say up, they say down. You say "Bumpstocks should remain legal" then they say "I hope they get banned because I think they are inferior to SBRs." That's oppositional-defiance.

Then there are the Psychopaths in here. Who clearly lack empathy and think people who live in daily pain should just fucking die or maybe even punch their own ticket if they can't manage that pain without some herb. They see it as "weakness." Honestly, I don't think some of the psychopaths around here even mind the fact that Kratom exists or that people take it...they just see it as an opportunity to use the color of law to force their commands on someone and make them comply with those demands. Or to make them suffer and enjoy the spectacle. It's a power/ego trip. Half of them probably use doctor-prescribed narcotics, themselves. These people are Liberals who own/enjoy guns- the same ones who are trying to ban Kratom would gladly rat out fellow gun owners under the SAFE act.
Link Posted: 2/15/2018 12:24:12 AM EST
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Nevermind
Link Posted: 2/15/2018 12:29:33 AM EST
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I think he was referring to the poster he quoted and the absurdity of that statement, not about "the weak minded".  
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10-4. Genuinely sorry if I misunderstood...one part of my brain that was injured in the car wreck is the part that understands language. Doesn't seem to hinder communication "output," but there are definite problems with "input." Sometimes I really have to think about what I'm hearing or reading to get the sense of what was said...even when it should be obvious. It gets a lot worse when I'm as tired as I am.

My mistake.
Link Posted: 2/15/2018 1:06:17 AM EST
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The Cognitive Dissonance is fucking scary in here.

Also seeing some Oppositional-Defiant Disorder in some people. You know those types who disagree simply for the sake of disagreement? You say red, they say blue- you say up, they say down. You say "Bumpstocks should remain legal" then they say "I hope they get banned because I think they are inferior to SBRs." That's oppositional-defiance.

Then there are the Psychopaths in here. Who clearly lack empathy and think people who live in daily pain should just fucking die or maybe even punch their own ticket if they can't manage that pain without some herb. They see it as "weakness." Honestly, I don't think some of the psychopaths around here even mind the fact that Kratom exists or that people take it...they just see it as an opportunity to use the color of law to force their commands on someone and make them comply with those demands. Or to make them suffer and enjoy the spectacle. It's a power/ego trip. Half of them probably use doctor-prescribed narcotics, themselves. These people are Liberals who own/enjoy guns- the same ones who are trying to ban Kratom would gladly rat out fellow gun owners under the SAFE act.
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Also definitely a control thing.

I don't care what anyone else does in their own home. If they want to ingest a plant, that doesn't hurt me, so why would I care?

Some people just have to stick their nose into everyone else's businesses and make sure "hurr durr don't ingest that evil plant"

I just don't get it but your points above sure do explain some members here
Link Posted: 2/15/2018 12:10:07 PM EST
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I'm really surprised there hasn't been some kind of organized to push back against the government for attacking painkillers. Especially with the number of veterans who have been affected.
Link Posted: 3/1/2018 9:51:16 PM EST
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Opioids clog up the innards, I believe. Are there any side effects to this stuff?...
Link Posted: 3/1/2018 10:01:03 PM EST
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Opioids clog up the innards, I believe. Are there any side effects to this stuff?...
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I've never noticed any side effects whatsoever.
Link Posted: 3/1/2018 10:44:08 PM EST
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Opioids clog up the innards, I believe. Are there any side effects to this stuff?...
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Seems to work, tastes like shit.
Link Posted: 3/1/2018 10:47:06 PM EST
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Seems to work, tastes like shit.
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So strange.  Everyone hates the taste.  As long as I'm not eating the dry powder and have it mixed in a few ounces of water, the flavor doesn't bother me at all.  In fact, it's almost pleasant, like alfalfa or something.
Link Posted: 3/1/2018 10:59:03 PM EST
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Opioids clog up the innards, I believe. Are there any side effects to this stuff?...
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None that i can tell, ive been a casual user for knee and back pain for the last six months.

No issues besides the taste, i solved this by taking capsules
Link Posted: 3/1/2018 11:08:24 PM EST
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Opioids clog up the innards, I believe. Are there any side effects to this stuff?...
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Just the after taste.  it tastes like alfalfa hay smells.
Link Posted: 3/4/2018 6:34:18 PM EST
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Appreciate the responses above...
Link Posted: 3/4/2018 6:40:03 PM EST
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How much is a 'typical' amount to take? Seems that it would go quickly depending on quantity bought vs consumed...
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