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Posted: 12/19/2018 3:04:51 PM EDT

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/fed-interest-rate-decision-and-powell-press-conference-live-blog-and-video-2018-12-19?mod=bnbh

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:09:41 PM EDT

[#1]

yep,

can't have Trump be successful, so got to raise interest rates to kill the economy

edit - feds kept the interest rate at zero to an effective negative interest rate during obama's term, to protect him and hide the recession while bho was in office.

now, they got to raise it through the roof to kill Trump's successful one, where everyone is making money

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:15:39 PM EDT

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yep,

can't have Trump be successful, so got to raise interest rates to kill the economy

edit - feds kept the interest rate at zero to an effective negative interest rate during obama's term, to protect him and hide the recession while bho was in office.

now, they got to raise it through the roof to kill Trump's successful one, where everyone is making money

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I expected that the fed would do this with Trump in office. I didn't expect them to be this obvious about it.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:17:11 PM EDT

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I expected that the fed would do this with Trump in office. I didn't expect them to be this obvious about it.

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Quoted:
yep,

can't have Trump be successful, so got to raise interest rates to kill the economy

edit - feds kept the interest rate at zero to an effective negative interest rate during obama's term, to protect him and hide the recession while bho was in office.

now, they got to raise it through the roof to kill Trump's successful one, where everyone is making money

I expected that the fed would do this with Trump in office. I didn't expect them to be this obvious about it.

This.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:17:42 PM EDT

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yep,

can't have Trump be successful, so got to raise interest rates to kill the economy

edit - feds kept the interest rate at zero to an effective negative interest rate during obama's term, to protect him and hide the recession while bho was in office.

now, they got to raise it through the roof to kill Trump's successful one, where everyone is making money

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I legitimately believe that.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:18:17 PM EDT

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yep,

can't have Trump be successful, so got to raise interest rates to kill the economy

edit - feds kept the interest rate at zero to an effective negative interest rate during obama's term, to protect him and hide the recession while bho was in office.

now, they got to raise it through the roof to kill Trump's successful one, where everyone is making money

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And Trump can’t stop them because the Dems will soon control the house.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:18:34 PM EDT

[#6]

Powell was nominated by Trump....

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:18:44 PM EDT

[#7]

Well, if there is anyone who can make a buck, our pres is the man

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:19:17 PM EDT

[#8]

The Dow was up 350 before this decision was announced. Now the numbers are turning negative.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:19:25 PM EDT

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Powell was nominated by Trump....

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Lol, facts don't matter!

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:20:08 PM EDT

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The Dow was up 350 before this decision was announced. Now the numbers are turning negative.

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Up 97 points right now.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:20:44 PM EDT

[#11]

Awesome. More money for my savings accounts.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:20:56 PM EDT

[#12]

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yep,

can't have Trump be successful, so got to raise interest rates to kill the economy

edit - feds kept the interest rate at zero to an effective negative interest rate during obama's term, to protect him and hide the recession while bho was in office.

now, they got to raise it through the roof to kill Trump's successful one, where everyone is making money

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Came in to say this. Jugears had the media Federal Reserve and just about everyone else in his pocket. Quite the arsenal to ruin a great country and did quite the job of it.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:21:15 PM EDT

[#13]

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yep,

can't have Trump be successful, so got to raise interest rates to kill the economy

edit - feds kept the interest rate at zero to an effective negative interest rate during obama's term, to protect him and hide the recession while bho was in office.

now, they got to raise it through the roof to kill Trump's successful one, where everyone is making money

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He should have kept the Democrat Janet Yellen.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:21:41 PM EDT

[#14]

Glad we refinanced a few months ago.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:22:37 PM EDT

[#15]

They floated Obama so the first “Black man” wouldn’t plunge the country into a depression; and now they are making Trump pay the price for Obama’s failed policies.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:23:45 PM EDT

[#16]

Obama had zero interest rate.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:24:20 PM EDT

[#17]

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Lol, facts don't matter!

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Powell was nominated by Trump....

Lol, facts don't matter!

I don't think it is entirely Powells decision. I may be wrong, but I think it's the FOMC part of the Fed that makes that call.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:24:27 PM EDT

[#18]

The market didn't react as badly as I thought it might, I guess we've been pricing this in for the past month.

It's fine, I'm just shifting over to more debt investments, as I've been doing for the past 3 months.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:25:22 PM EDT

[#19]

Be ready for the recession because its coming. Every time the economy is rolling along the Fed pops it.

They popped the dot com and they popped the housing bubble.

Sock your money away because its coming.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:25:32 PM EDT

[#20]

Centrally planned economics!

Yay!!!

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:25:56 PM EDT

[#21]

I read a financial page commentary that said something akin to "The Fed isn't there to react to loony stock market traders; they're there to keep the ACTUAL economy running smoothly" - and the economy is still doing great, even if the stock market has been pushed down by nervous nellies.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:26:31 PM EDT

[#22]

They really are trying to tank the best economy we have had in a very long time.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:27:34 PM EDT

[#23]

lol

"Bubbles are good when our guy is in office"

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:27:44 PM EDT

[#24]

I always thought the mortgage bubble bursting in 2008 was also market manipulation by communist, democrat sympathizers that got beyond their control. How convenient, just like this one.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:29:09 PM EDT

[#25]

Buy cheap, stack deep.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:31:01 PM EDT

[#26]

Powell is speaking

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:31:04 PM EDT

[#27]

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The Dow was up 350 before this decision was announced. Now the numbers are turning negative.

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Yah I noticed the market overall was doing great today...then boom RED

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:32:08 PM EDT

[#28]

The US economy has been running on funny money and cheap money for far too long. Better to eat a 40% correction now, rather than a 70% correction down the road.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:33:05 PM EDT

[#29]

I was lucky to get my mortgage at 4.65% back in November. It's into the 5's now

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:33:26 PM EDT

[#30]

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yep,

can't have Trump be successful, so got to raise interest rates to kill the economy

edit - feds kept the interest rate at zero to an effective negative interest rate during obama's term, to protect him and hide the recession while bho was in office.

now, they got to raise it through the roof to kill Trump's successful one, where everyone is making money

View Quote

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:35:09 PM EDT

[#31]

Of course they did.

They had no choice. Trump backed them into a corner. If they had not raised rates, it would have signaled that they had caved to political pressure, and all faith in the system would have been lost.

Perversely, if Trump had been quiet, he might have gotten what he wanted.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:36:29 PM EDT

[#32]

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I read a financial page commentary that said something akin to "The Fed isn't there to react to loony stock market traders; they're there to keep the ACTUAL economy running smoothly" - and the economy is still doing great, even if the stock market has been pushed down by nervous nellies.

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Growth has been pushed down as well.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:37:14 PM EDT

[#33]

I'm REALLY starting to sound like a broken record here. Once again.

If someone buys a 1-Yr treasury today, they make 2.72%. Minus annualized inflation as of November of 2.2% = 0.52% real rate of interest.

And that's with the official inflation rate

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Posted: 12/19/2018 3:38:50 PM EDT

[#34]

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I always thought the mortgage bubble bursting in 2008 was also market manipulation by communist, democrat sympathizers that got beyond their control. How convenient, just like this one.

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The mortgage problem started well before that. I was a deputy sheriff back then and part of my job was serving writs on ARM homeowners. I had noticed that things started picking up in 2005 around the time of the gas bullshit, coincidently.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:39:04 PM EDT

[#35]

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I'm REALLY starting to sound like a broken record here. Once again.

If someone buys a 1-Yr treasury today, they make 2.72%. Minus annualized inflation as of November of 2.2% = 0.52% real rate of interest.

And that's with the official inflation rate

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Sure, that's on a instrument with no risk.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:39:34 PM EDT

[#36]

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Of course they did.

They had no choice. Trump backed them into a corner. If they had not raised rates, it would have signaled that they had caved to political pressure, and all faith in the system would have been lost.

Perversely, if Trump had been quiet, he might have gotten what he wanted.

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I agree here completely.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:40:07 PM EDT

[#37]

And now the housing market will crash in the next few months. Not going to say it will be like the bubble burst 10 years ago, but it will definitely decline significantly over the next 6 months. Spring/early summer is a huge real housing sales time and we will know by July 4th just how bad it is.

The economy right now is excellent EXCEPT for the sentiment that people are feeling and hearing from the MSM about how it's all going to come crashing down. So a lot of people react without data, just feelings based on what they heard or think will happen.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:40:14 PM EDT

[#38]

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I'm REALLY starting to sound like a broken record here. Once again.

If someone buys a 1-Yr treasury today, they make 2.72%. Minus annualized inflation as of November of 2.2% = 0.52% real rate of interest.

And that's with the official inflation rate

.

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You can buy TIPS doe

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:40:54 PM EDT

[#39]

Deep state sabotage.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:43:59 PM EDT

[#40]

this is what happens when you let private banks control the currency. the fed is not actually part of the "FED".

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:44:12 PM EDT

[#41]

There was news on the radio this morning about "the coming recession". WTF?

If that happens, it will instantly be labeled as "the Trump Recession", and will be called that 87 millions times in the next two years.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:44:14 PM EDT

[#42]

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I legitimately believe that.

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Quoted:
yep,

can't have Trump be successful, so got to raise interest rates to kill the economy

edit - feds kept the interest rate at zero to an effective negative interest rate during obama's term, to protect him and hide the recession while bho was in office.

now, they got to raise it through the roof to kill Trump's successful one, where everyone is making money

I legitimately believe that.

LOL Powell is Trump's guy.

For the last 5 years of BHO's presidency, GD screamed about how the Fed needed to stop printing money and needed to start slowly raising interest rates.

Now that they have started doing just that, it's some grand conspiracy manufactured to take down Trump.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:44:39 PM EDT

[#43]

Campaign Trump needs to come back.

Donald Trump - We Are In A Big Fat Ugly Bubble

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru1SQbszOHI

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:45:44 PM EDT

[#44]

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LOL Powell is Trump's guy.

For the last 5 years of BHO's presidency, GD screamed about how the Fed needed to stop printing money and needed to start slowly raising interest rates.

Now that they have started doing just that, it's some grand conspiracy manufactured to take down Trump.

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Quoted:
yep,

can't have Trump be successful, so got to raise interest rates to kill the economy

edit - feds kept the interest rate at zero to an effective negative interest rate during obama's term, to protect him and hide the recession while bho was in office.

now, they got to raise it through the roof to kill Trump's successful one, where everyone is making money

I legitimately believe that.

LOL Powell is Trump's guy.

For the last 5 years of BHO's presidency, GD screamed about how the Fed needed to stop printing money and needed to start slowly raising interest rates.

Now that they have started doing just that, it's some grand conspiracy manufactured to take down Trump.

I'm very distrustful of the Federal Reserve. Very distrustful. Maybe more than Congress, maybe the same.

But I don't trust them and do not think they have my best interest in mind, nor the country's.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:45:56 PM EDT

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They floated Obama so the first “Black man” wouldn’t plunge the country into a depression; and now they are making Trump pay the price for Obama’s failed policies.

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I see it differently. I see that the FED as RACISTS!!! Remember the USA lost the 4 AAAA credit raiting (or whatever) while a black man was in office. They then refused to raise the rates while a black man was in office. Now that they have a whitey back in office, they feel “comfortable” raising rates.

The FED is clearly racist, and I think a protest is in order. Spread the word to all your liberal friends.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:46:01 PM EDT

[#46]

A few more rate hikes will squeeze the real estate and new car markets pretty hard.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:47:15 PM EDT

[#47]

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Campaign Trump needs to come back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru1SQbszOHI

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Obama in Office:
"You got to raise interest rates, we're going to get another bubble!"

Trump in Office:
"You can't raise interest rates back to normal!!11!!!one!!1"

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:48:04 PM EDT

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There was news on the radio this morning about "the coming recession". WTF?

If that happens, it will instantly be labeled as "the Trump Recession", and will be called that 87 millions times in the next two years.

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They have been kicking the can a lot longer then I thought they could. Next wave won’t be pretty.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:48:15 PM EDT

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Powell was nominated by Trump....

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Should've picked Ron Paul.

Posted: 12/19/2018 3:48:23 PM EDT

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Of course they did.

They had no choice. Trump backed them into a corner. If they had not raised rates, it would have signaled that they had caved to political pressure, and all faith in the system would have been lost.

Perversely, if Trump had been quiet, he might have gotten what he wanted.

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Obama openly threatened the banks and they kept it at 0.25% for most of his term.

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